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I've missed a lot of this thread because of being banned, and haven't had the time to catch up on 600+ pages.
What is the interest in terra-forming Mars...is this because TPTB want to live there while Earth goes through its shift, or they believe the Earth will be a no-go area because of a third world war or alien takeover, perhaps they want to retain a 3D vibration when Earth jumps to 5D, or they believe the Sun's increased solar output will make life here impossible? (I noticed you have mentioned Mars may be in the goldylocks zone perhaps because of possible coming events.)
Or non of the above?
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One thing to remember is that Phobos Grunt did not orient itself due to the fact it could not find the stars it required to lock on to and triangulate a mission corridor to Mars.

It could not find the right stars.

Also, dont forget that the US did have a package aboard P/G in the form of biological experiments. (contributor)

On sattelites falling, or seeming to fall... what about the idea of expanding Earth? Has it grown and we've not noticed? If the surface has grown, the atmosphere would be spread over a larger surface, and would therefor have a lower ceiling, until time would allow it to increase naturally to it's current heights.

Would this not also mean that geostat sattelites would be in an automatically lower orbit? Those in hibernation, which seem to make up the larger amount of sattelites, would not be able to maintain orbit, hence they fall to Earth.

Been a lot of that lately. Half of P/G re-entered our atmosphere late last month. The outer craft is supposed to re-enter in January. What of the probes?

I still find it hard to believe that a $130million (guess) mission can just be scrapped like that. Wars have been started for lesser figures, and lesser reasons...
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Dramatic and unprecedented plumes of methane – a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide – have been seen bubbling to the surface of the Arctic Ocean by scientists undertaking an extensive survey of the region.

The scale and volume of the methane release has astonished the head of the Russian research team who has been surveying the seabed of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf off northern Russia for nearly 20 years.

In an exclusive interview with The Independent, Igor Semiletov, of the Far Eastern branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said that he has never before witnessed the scale and force of the methane being released from beneath the Arctic seabed.

"Earlier we found torch-like structures like this but they were only tens of metres in diameter. This is the first time that we've found continuous, powerful and impressive seeping structures, more than 1,000 metres in diameter. It's amazing," Dr Semiletov said. "I was most impressed by the sheer scale and high density of the plumes. Over a relatively small area we found more than 100, but over a wider area there should be thousands of them."

Scientists estimate that there are hundreds of millions of tonnes of methane gas locked away beneath the Arctic permafrost, which extends from the mainland into the seabed of the relatively shallow sea of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf. One of the greatest fears is that with the disappearance of the Arctic sea-ice in summer, and rapidly rising temperatures across the entire region, which are already melting the Siberian permafrost, the trapped methane could be suddenly released into the atmosphere leading to rapid and severe climate change.

Dr Semiletov's team published a study in 2010 estimating that the methane emissions from this region were about eight million tonnes a year, but the latest expedition suggests this is a significant underestimate of the phenomenon.

In late summer, the Russian research vessel Academician Lavrentiev conducted an extensive survey of about 10,000 square miles of sea off the East Siberian coast. Scientists deployed four highly sensitive instruments, both seismic and acoustic, to monitor the "fountains" or plumes of methane bubbles rising to the sea surface from beneath the seabed.

"In a very small area, less than 10,000 square miles, we have counted more than 100 fountains, or torch-like structures, bubbling through the water column and injected directly into the atmosphere from the seabed," Dr Semiletov said. "We carried out checks at about 115 stationary points and discovered methane fields of a fantastic scale – I think on a scale not seen before. Some plumes were a kilometre or more wide and the emissions went directly into the atmosphere – the concentration was a hundred times higher than normal."

Dr Semiletov released his findings for the first time last week at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco.
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The first evidence that millions of tons of a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide is being released into the atmosphere from beneath the Arctic seabed has been discovered by scientists.

The Independent has been passed details of preliminary findings suggesting that massive deposits of sub-sea methane are bubbling to the surface as the Arctic region becomes warmer and its ice retreats.

Underground stores of methane are important because scientists believe their sudden release has in the past been responsible for rapid increases in global temperatures, dramatic changes to the climate, and even the mass extinction of species. Scientists aboard a research ship that has sailed the entire length of Russia's northern coast have discovered intense concentrations of methane – sometimes at up to 100 times background levels – over several areas covering thousands of square miles of the Siberian continental shelf.

In the past few days, the researchers have seen areas of sea foaming with gas bubbling up through "methane chimneys" rising from the sea floor. They believe that the sub-sea layer of permafrost, which has acted like a "lid" to prevent the gas from escaping, has melted away to allow methane to rise from underground deposits formed before the last ice age.

They have warned that this is likely to be linked with the rapid warming that the region has experienced in recent years.

Methane is about 20 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and many scientists fear that its release could accelerate global warming in a giant positive feedback where more atmospheric methane causes higher temperatures, leading to further permafrost melting and the release of yet more methane.

The amount of methane stored beneath the Arctic is calculated to be greater than the total amount of carbon locked up in global coal reserves so there is intense interest in the stability of these deposits as the region warms at a faster rate than other places on earth.

Orjan Gustafsson of Stockholm University in Sweden, one of the leaders of the expedition, described the scale of the methane emissions in an email exchange sent from the Russian research ship Jacob Smirnitskyi.

"We had a hectic finishing of the sampling programme yesterday and this past night," said Dr Gustafsson. "An extensive area of intense methane release was found. At earlier sites we had found elevated levels of dissolved methane. Yesterday, for the first time, we documented a field where the release was so intense that the methane did not have time to dissolve into the seawater but was rising as methane bubbles to the sea surface. These 'methane chimneys' were documented on echo sounder and with seismic [instruments]."

At some locations, methane concentrations reached 100 times background levels. These anomalies have been seen in the East Siberian Sea and the Laptev Sea, covering several tens of thousands of square kilometres, amounting to millions of tons of methane, said Dr Gustafsson. "This may be of the same magnitude as presently estimated from the global ocean," he said. "Nobody knows how many more such areas exist on the extensive East Siberian continental shelves.

"The conventional thought has been that the permafrost 'lid' on the sub-sea sediments on the Siberian shelf should cap and hold the massive reservoirs of shallow methane deposits in place. The growing evidence for release of methane in this inaccessible region may suggest that the permafrost lid is starting to get perforated and thus leak methane... The permafrost now has small holes. We have found elevated levels of methane above the water surface and even more in the water just below. It is obvious that the source is the seabed."

The preliminary findings of the International Siberian Shelf Study 2008, being prepared for publication by the American Geophysical Union, are being overseen by Igor Semiletov of the Far-Eastern branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Since 1994, he has led about 10 expeditions in the Laptev Sea but during the 1990s he did not detect any elevated levels of methane. However, since 2003 he reported a rising number of methane "hotspots", which have now been confirmed using more sensitive instruments on board the Jacob Smirnitskyi.

Dr Semiletov has suggested several possible reasons why methane is now being released from the Arctic, including the rising volume of relatively warmer water being discharged from Siberia's rivers due to the melting of the permafrost on the land.

The Arctic region as a whole has seen a 4C rise in average temperatures over recent decades and a dramatic decline in the area of the Arctic Ocean covered by summer sea ice. Many scientists fear that the loss of sea ice could accelerate the warming trend because open ocean soaks up more heat from the sun than the reflective surface of an ice-covered sea.
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QUOTE - "the Chinese are working on something under the sea ice, on the sea bed."

Job done.
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"Job done" ... BHD/GHD
Where you a postman-deliverer from C ? lol ....

BS that the Chinese are behind the methane-vents ...lol...
there will be more natural causes to find.




Tnx for the Grunt info about "not being able to find the right stars" !!!!

Do you have a link to your info ? Tnx, would be interresting to read.
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I've missed a lot of this thread because of being banned, and haven't had the time to catch up on 600+ pages.
What is the interest in terra-forming Mars...is this because TPTB want to live there while Earth goes through its shift, or they believe the Earth will be a no-go area because of a third world war or alien takeover, perhaps they want to retain a 3D vibration when Earth jumps to 5D, or they believe the Sun's increased solar output will make life here impossible? (I noticed you have mentioned Mars may be in the goldylocks zone perhaps because of possible coming events.)
Or non of the above?
 Quoting: Cosmos5491 7052408


It's being re terraformed for the purpose of expansion of man from earth later and some may go there soon in fact to participate more in the process the learning value. Venus is already terraformed, in our orbit, and accepting people from earth.
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"Job done" ... BHD/GHD
Where you a postman-deliverer from C ? lol ....

BS that the Chinese are behind the methane-vents ...lol...
there will be more natural causes to find.




Tnx for the Grunt info about "not being able to find the right stars" !!!!

Do you have a link to your info ? Tnx, would be interresting to read.
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Quote on the CHIN working under the sea ice was from a friend of yours K. She said they were either drilling or trying to repair something they damaged down there.

Anyway, it was the tasks they needed to do, in deep water, that led to that rash od deep water submersibles being made and used all over the planet.

As for being a messenger for CH a ni, nah, not my style, although I certainly will be passing on new info when it is released in the now sealed section of Bezerk. (If allowed to that is.)

The Grunt info is listed on that thread I started, pretty much at the beginning. They seem to have glossed over that point now, and are re-writing history. Typical.
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"Job done" ... BHD/GHD
Where you a postman-deliverer from C ? lol ....

BS that the Chinese are behind the methane-vents ...lol...
there will be more natural causes to find.




Tnx for the Grunt info about "not being able to find the right stars" !!!!

Do you have a link to your info ? Tnx, would be interresting to read.
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Quote on the CHIN working under the sea ice was from a friend of yours K. She said they were either drilling or trying to repair something they damaged down there.

Anyway, it was the tasks they needed to do, in deep water, that led to that rash od deep water submersibles being made and used all over the planet.

As for being a messenger for CH a ni, nah, not my style, although I certainly will be passing on new info when it is released in the now sealed section of Bezerk. (If allowed to that is.)

The Grunt info is listed on that thread I started, pretty much at the beginning. They seem to have glossed over that point now, and are re-writing history. Typical.
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HI BHD,

tnx for the respons.


If you are pointing at Squiddy, she wasnt my "friend" nor did she see me as her friend. She did what she had to do, and made contact with some people. You were the only one who saw her and met herand drank coffee with her.

I cant remember that "repairing something they damaged" part ... It did not registered in my memory. But I could have read over that part ;) [happens to all of us somethimes].

Doesnt every nation/country has its own submersibles ? And arnt also other countries drilling in the Arctic area's ??? Drilling and fracking ...
They ALL DAMAGE EARTH by doing so. Not only the Chinese.



Okay not a messenger, but why did you said loud and clear : "JOB DONE" .... ??? What job ? What were you refering to, as it was not delivering special info ?


Yes please, all info relating to bezerk-glp or bezerk-C is welcome. Dont understand the secracy anyway.

I will go to C and sheck out your Grunt-info.
if I see something of interrest I will copy it to here.


Tnx BHD. Have a nice day.
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I've missed a lot of this thread because of being banned, and haven't had the time to catch up on 600+ pages.
What is the interest in terra-forming Mars...is this because TPTB want to live there while Earth goes through its shift, or they believe the Earth will be a no-go area because of a third world war or alien takeover, perhaps they want to retain a 3D vibration when Earth jumps to 5D, or they believe the Sun's increased solar output will make life here impossible? (I noticed you have mentioned Mars may be in the goldylocks zone perhaps because of possible coming events.)
Or non of the above?
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Hi COSMOS

Good to see you back. Are there 2 Cosmos's ? Coz a few pages back an other Cosmos shared info and thoughts with us ...


The [possible] interrest of terraforming Mars:
- Well for starters, in old long forgotten times, Mars with Marduk and Earth were inhabited. Mars and Marduk had very far evolved technology benearth and on the surface.
Marduk was destroyd and is now the Hammered Asteroid Belt. Mars's atmosphere was 'destroyed' deliberately, or coz of internal failure [core failure, electro-magnetics, resonanse etc...] which might have made it collapse. A possible reason for it could be that Mars was pushed out of the Goldylockszone.
Anyway, whatever the cauze, a LOT of TECHNOLOGY is still at the surface or shallow/deep underground [abandoned or still occupied by Aliens or Marsians]. It is not hard to imagine that OUR PTB want to collect that tech and use it, or reverse the tech to usable units for our own civilisation.


- Yes it could be that Earth could become a harsh place to survive during the shift(s). But those periods could be overcome in high-tech [advanced] spacestations and spaceships ... or in Terra-stations like the Russians wanna build in the Arctic. (Link to article was given a few pages back)

- Earth OVERTAKEN by ALIENS ??? Imo, we are allready under the rules and laws and dominance of ALIENS. They are the Old Powers behind the visable PTB, a faction of the Annunaki that stayed behind when all the others left ... Those left-behinds are "the fallen Angels".

- Mars will not and never remain in 3D if and when Earth should go to 5D - 6D or higher ... !!!
Our solarsystem is a SYSTEM, and every part composing it is linked and important for the balance and equibrillium.
The forces that will make Earth boosting up her frequency and vibration, will be passed troughout our sun, which is feeded and updated through other bigger suns .. the startingpoint is the Central Sun of this Galaxy.
Like Earth is corded with our sun through the FTE [flux transfer event], so is Mars, and every other planet in this solar(symbiont)system. ALL will raise frequency and have a frequency in higher dimensions.
All will look the same in higher frequencies, besides of minor differences that could have influence on the compositions and vibrations of planetal fluids and matter.
Things that will NOT RAISE and transform into higher dimensions, could be un-natural bodies who are not natural linked through a FTE-vortex/cord with the Sun ... Those OBJECTS could be artificial MOONS, which are in reality spaceships.
THAT could be A REASON why OUR MOON will NOT be a COMPAGNION in higher dimensions ! The same could be the case for PHOBOS and DEIMOS, Mars its 'moons'.


- The UNCREASED SOLAR OUTPUT is NEEDED for this solarsystem to 'jump' to higher dimensions and vibrations !!! Without this solarmax right now, we wouldnt be able to transmute and transform, coz for every 'upgrade' there is needed a 'boost' of 'energy' to make it happen and to feed the changes/metabolism processes.
I would rather dare to say that WITHOUT this RAISED OUTPUT [and 'exotic' energies] LIFE on EARTH WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

- Well 'the other Cosmos' talked about a star/sun in the Ribbon-cloud which was not yet "ignited", not yet in our vibration. Cosmos thought that electro-magnetical and plasmatic Events/Triggers in or through out solarsystem could make this dormant-star IGNITE and merge with our present sun. The radius of them would become bigger, so that the Goldylockszone would also be pushed outward just like planets could be repossitioned by that possible event. This could possible bring Mars BACK in that GLZ, making it (with some boosts and injections) habitable again ... "RE-ANIMATED" like BHD pointed out.

It is my opinion that AUgie is not only working and present IN and ON Earth, but that Mars had also its own AU-gie variant, but which is now inactive due to the cold temps and coz it is not inside the GLZ.


I hope that some things are more clear for you now.
If not then dont hesitate to ask specific questions. I and others will answer them with pleasure.


hf
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Dramatic and unprecedented plumes of methane – a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide – have been seen bubbling to the surface of the Arctic Ocean by scientists undertaking an extensive survey of the region.

The scale and volume of the methane release has astonished the head of the Russian research team who has been surveying the seabed of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf off northern Russia for nearly 20 years.


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In late summer, the Russian research vessel Academician Lavrentiev conducted an extensive survey of about 10,000 square miles of sea off the East Siberian coast. Scientists deployed four highly sensitive instruments, both seismic and acoustic, to monitor the "fountains" or plumes of methane bubbles rising to the sea surface from beneath the seabed.

"In a very small area, less than 10,000 square miles, we have counted more than 100 fountains, or torch-like structures, bubbling through the water column and injected directly into the atmosphere from the seabed," Dr Semiletov said. "We carried out checks at about 115 stationary points and discovered methane fields of a fantastic scale – I think on a scale not seen before. Some plumes were a kilometre or more wide and the emissions went directly into the atmosphere – the concentration was a hundred times higher than normal."

Dr Semiletov released his findings for the first time last week at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco.
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As a reply I will repost my contribution to Tauranga's thread :


Researchers shocked to find thousands of spewing methane fountains in Arctic region

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]

[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
photo- Methane bubbles seen rising below the ice in the Siberian Ice shelf

December 14, 2011 –ARCTIC –The Russian research vessel Academician Lavrentiev conducted a survey of 10,000 square miles of sea off the coast of eastern Siberia. They made a terrifying discovery –huge plumes of methane bubbles rising to the surface from the seabed. “He found more than 100 fountains, some more than a kilometer across,’ said Dr Igor Semiletov, “These are methane fields on a scale not seen before. The emissions went directly into the atmosphere. This is the first time that we’ve found continuous, powerful and impressive seeping structures, more than 1,000 meters in diameter. It’s amazing. Earlier we found torch or fountain-like structures like this,” Semiletov told the Independent. “Over a relatively small area, we found more than 100, but over a wider area, there should be thousands of them.” Semiletov’s team used seismic and acoustic monitors to detect methane bubbles rising to the surface. Scientists estimate that the methane trapped under the ice shelf could lead to extremely rapid climate change. Current average methane concentrations in the Arctic average about 1.85 parts per million, the highest in 400,000 years. Concentrations above the East Siberian Arctic Shelf are even higher. The shelf is shallow, 50 meters or less in depth, which means it has been alternately submerged or above water, depending on sea levels throughout Earth’s history. During Earth’s coldest periods, it is a frozen arctic coastal plain, and does not release methane. As the planet warms and sea levels rise, it is inundated with seawater, which is 12-15 degrees warmer than the average air temperature. In deep water, methane gas oxidizes into carbon dioxide before it reaches the surface. In the shallows of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, methane simply doesn’t have enough time to oxidize, which means more of it escapes into the atmosphere. That, combined with the sheer amount of methane in the region, could add a previously uncalculated variable to climate models. –Daily Mail
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Yes very interresting !!!

I wanna bet that underwatervolcanos and huge magmarooms beneath the seabed are a big deal responable for these melted methanecrystals !!! The raised temp is melting them and its their natural behavior to elevate to the surface, and when in huge quantities this will be in Methane-fountains ...

Very logic.

An earlier report in articles on the internet [this year] talked about the discovery of unknown volcano-chains in the arctic beneath the ice-covered Ocean.

- Japan Planning To Drill For Methane Hydrates Beneath Pacific Ocean [2007]
[link to www.democraticunderground.com]
Dec. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Fifty-five million years ago the world's climate was catastrophically changed when volcanoes melted natural gas frozen in the seabed. Now Japan plans to drill for the same icy crystals to end its reliance on imported energy. Billions of tons of methane hydrate, frozen chunks of chemical-laced water buried in sediment some 3,000 feet under the Pacific Ocean floor, may help Japan win energy independence from the Middle East and Indonesia. Japanese engineers have found enough ``flammable ice'' to meet its gas use demands for 14 years. The trick is extracting it without damaging the environment.


- [link to www.pnas.org]
In the absence of sediment slumping, the sediment column overlying the melting hydrate acts as a physical cap through which the released methane must travel to escape to the ocean or the atmosphere. Assuming that the surface sediment remains colder than the melting temperature, released bubbles or dissolved methane would have to migrate through the cold trap of the stability zone. There is also a chemical trap of oxidation by sulfate. Several authors (10, 26) suggest that the probability of methane escape increases when bubbles make up a large fraction of the pore fluid. High bubble volume would encourage bubbles to migrate through the sediment column by creating a pressure differential between the bubble and the water at the tops and the bottoms of the bubbles. High salinities from freezing hydrate or dissolving evaporates might also create channels of hydrate instability through the nominal stability zone (27–29). Simple kinetics might also allow the methane to escape if it passes through the stability and oxidized zones quickly (30). These mechanisms are motivated, in part, by evidence for free gas moving through the stability zone (31). Mud volcanoes and methane seeps are sometimes lined with frozen hydrate and with CaCO3, the oxidation product of reaction with sulfate, so some fraction of the released gas is clearly captured by the cold and the chemical traps. However, the presence of pockmarks on the sea floor (32) and “wipeout zones” in seismic sections (33) seem to illustrate the potential for methane gas to migrate through the traps to the ocean floor.


It seems though like Mother Nature is always balancing her eco-systems.
On an other forum I saw this article mentioned that certain kinds of bacteria are known for their APPETITE to EAT METHANE in the water(s).
We humans could HELP by injecting those bacteria in area's where more methanehydrats are melting then the normal eco-system & bacteria can process and digest.

- Methanotrophs [link to en.wikipedia.org]


- Defusing the Methane Greenhouse Time Bomb
Could methane-digesting bacteria and an Arctic cap of fresh water prevent a climate catastrophe?
[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Elliott's model includes the activity of methanotrophs. In accordance with conventional wisdom, his virtual bacteria can keep up with small to medium-size failures of the clathrates and subsequent releases of methane gas. As the "burps" of methane increase in size in response to warming seas, however, his model also shows that in some areas of the Arctic, the methanotrophs could potentially run out of the nutrients required to metabolize methane, including oxygen, nitrate, iron and copper.

But, even if the methanotrophs in the Arctic run out of the nutrients required to digest methane—especially if the waters in which they normally live become anoxic (low in the oxygen modern life-forms need to survive)—a second phenomenon demonstrated in Elliott's models may yet prevent methane from percolating all the way to the surface of the ocean, and then into the atmosphere.

"It happens that the Arctic Ocean is capped with a relatively fresh layer of seawater," Elliott says. Freshwater from the many rivers that empty into the Arctic float atop the denser ocean brine. In Elliott's simulations, methane hits this fresh water "cap" and cannot escape into the atmosphere. Instead, it "hangs out in the Arctic Ocean until it flows out into the deep, abyssal Atlantic Ocean," Elliott says.





- It is highly speculated that in the GOM also extra methane-eating-bacteria were used by BP :

Study Finds Bacteria Ate Most Methane From BP Well
[link to www.npr.org]

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Hi everyone


This is quite a spike...

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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Hi COSMOS

Good to see you back. Are there 2 Cosmos's ? Coz a few pages back an other Cosmos shared info and thoughts with us ...


The [possible] interrest of terraforming Mars:
- Well for starters, in old long forgotten times, Mars with Marduk and Earth were inhabited. Mars and Marduk had very far evolved technology benearth and on the surface.
Marduk was destroyd and is now the Hammered Asteroid Belt. Mars's atmosphere was 'destroyed' deliberately, or coz of internal failure [core failure, electro-magnetics, resonanse etc...] which might have made it collapse. A possible reason for it could be that Mars was pushed out of the Goldylockszone.
Anyway, whatever the cauze, a LOT of TECHNOLOGY is still at the surface or shallow/deep underground [abandoned or still occupied by Aliens or Marsians]. It is not hard to imagine that OUR PTB want to collect that tech and use it, or reverse the tech to usable units for our own civilisation.


- Yes it could be that Earth could become a harsh place to survive during the shift(s). But those periods could be overcome in high-tech [advanced] spacestations and spaceships ... or in Terra-stations like the Russians wanna build in the Arctic. (Link to article was given a few pages back)

- Earth OVERTAKEN by ALIENS ??? Imo, we are allready under the rules and laws and dominance of ALIENS. They are the Old Powers behind the visable PTB, a faction of the Annunaki that stayed behind when all the others left ... Those left-behinds are "the fallen Angels".

- Mars will not and never remain in 3D if and when Earth should go to 5D - 6D or higher ... !!!
Our solarsystem is a SYSTEM, and every part composing it is linked and important for the balance and equibrillium.
The forces that will make Earth boosting up her frequency and vibration, will be passed troughout our sun, which is feeded and updated through other bigger suns .. the startingpoint is the Central Sun of this Galaxy.
Like Earth is corded with our sun through the FTE [flux transfer event], so is Mars, and every other planet in this solar(symbiont)system. ALL will raise frequency and have a frequency in higher dimensions.
All will look the same in higher frequencies, besides of minor differences that could have influence on the compositions and vibrations of planetal fluids and matter.
Things that will NOT RAISE and transform into higher dimensions, could be un-natural bodies who are not natural linked through a FTE-vortex/cord with the Sun ... Those OBJECTS could be artificial MOONS, which are in reality spaceships.
THAT could be A REASON why OUR MOON will NOT be a COMPAGNION in higher dimensions ! The same could be the case for PHOBOS and DEIMOS, Mars its 'moons'.

- The UNCREASED SOLAR OUTPUT is NEEDED for this solarsystem to 'jump' to higher dimensions and vibrations !!! Without this solarmax right now, we wouldnt be able to transmute and transform, coz for every 'upgrade' there is needed a 'boost' of 'energy' to make it happen and to feed the changes/metabolism processes.
I would rather dare to say that WITHOUT this RAISED OUTPUT [and 'exotic' energies] LIFE on EARTH WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

- Well 'the other Cosmos' talked about a star/sun in the Ribbon-cloud which was not yet "ignited", not yet in our vibration. Cosmos thought that electro-magnetical and plasmatic Events/Triggers in or through out solarsystem could make this dormant-star IGNITE and merge with our present sun. The radius of them would become bigger, so that the Goldylockszone would also be pushed outward just like planets could be repossitioned by that possible event. This could possible bring Mars BACK in that GLZ, making it (with some boosts and injections) habitable again ... "RE-ANIMATED" like BHD pointed out.

It is my opinion that AUgie is not only working and present IN and ON Earth, but that Mars had also its own AU-gie variant, but which is now inactive due to the cold temps and coz it is not inside the GLZ.


I hope that some things are more clear for you now.
If not then dont hesitate to ask specific questions. I and others will answer them with pleasure.
Quoting: Krispy

Thanks Krispy for this update on Mars....interesting.

Something a bit odd going on...some parts of the posts I've put up do not reflect my current understanding, more like something I may of put up years ago, especially concerning NASA, which we all know only put out info TPTB allow...we are not getting a true picture of our solar system.
Must of gone into a time loop there for a while ha ha...I'm going to prepare posts in advance to be on the safe side. I had trouble after I posted before on another forum about the possibility of an unlit star joining this system.
A couple of times I forgot to put Cosmos5491 in the reply box, so this may explain the different numbers and lack of
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Years ago when I was quite young, about 12 or so, I had a series of dreams where I was on a world that seemed quite different to Earth, at least in parts. For a start it seems much less effort to move around than here, others there seemed to have a glow about them, and the landscape seemed to have a lightness to it, some things seemed to emit a kind of light...all very strange. I had several dreams over a few years, and then they stopped. In each dream there were always two stars in the sky and one was bigger than the other, in one dream they would be spaced apart, in another close together. Anyway these dreams passed, and I thought no more about them.
Years later when I was at college, now in my early 20's, a few friends and I were having a few drinks and chatting as you do about the meaning of life and all that stuff, when the subject of life elsewhere cropped up. after a while I related my dreams about this alien world that I'd had. There was initial interest, then jokes about too much to drink, or a drug trip...I hadn't mentioned what age I'd had these dreams. Anyway, just as we were leaving the pub, one of the group said I have a book you may be interested in, and promised to bring it in the next day.
It turned out it was an alien contact book, so I was a bit skeptical at that time. The book was called, "My Contact With Flying Saucers," by Dino Kraspedon.
Google will probably find a reference to it, and list it as another 50's contact book. There may be some excerpts from the book.
Kraspedon lived in Brazil and had a contact with a being from a saucer in 1950, and the book my friend had leant me had been translated from Portuguese and printed in english in 1952.
There are many details given by this being of how their craft flew, and the use of one energy system within the Earth's magnetosphere, and another outside.
To cut a long story short, this being said the main reasons for their visiting the Earth at that time were firstly to warn us of the dangers we face if we kept exploding nuclear weapons, and the second was to tell us that at some point not too far into the future Earth was going to go through many changes and upheavals, and that after this there would enter into our solar system the makings of another star. `
Kraspedon said, why are you coming to me, I have no influence with the government? The reply was that they had contacted governments worldwide, and non seemed interested in any help or advice, so they were going to who they felt were suitable individuals worldwide, presumably hoping that enough people would get the governments' attention.
There was a hint that some authorities had done deals with less honourable beings. (something of an understatment.)
Apparently this star would arrive at our solar system unlit, and only begin the ignition process when in the secondary magnetic field. (The primary being the Earth field.)
According to this being this new star will be bigger than our present Sun and be of the blue spectral class.

This was something of a revelation to me having had the aforementioned dreams. Had I dreamt about Earth in some future time?
Well, the answer to that can only be if this star actually arrives.

I want to make it clear that I do not want to distract this thread from pursuing the truth regarding the changes above and below the radar and with AUgie etc...so just treat this as a possible maybe regarding research.
Even I have to say discernment is needed.
More to follow.
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Wauwwwwww COSMOS !
Thanx for the amazzzzing post !

It really has vibes to it the resonate with truth, you are defenately sensere, I can feel that.
Somehow the idea of that second sun is not at all strange to me.

I am interrested in more of your experiences and thoughts.
And I think other people too ;)


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Assuming massive releases of methane are happening as we speak, what are your thoughts on immediate/prolonged effects that will occur and what is a plausible timeline if nothing can be done to ameliorate them?

Thanks to all for your continuing attention and research on these activities.
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Assuming massive releases of methane are happening as we speak, what are your thoughts on immediate/prolonged effects that will occur and what is a plausible timeline if nothing can be done to ameliorate them?

Thanks to all for your continuing attention and research on these activities.
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The methane, stored the world over mostly in frozen form, should only initially be an issue as it reaches a saturation point. But, it is only a building block for a larger event. It will be metabolised, and used in all areas, deep sea, land and upper atmosphere.

Upper atmospher has already been primed.

Although the Arctic is where the readings are currently off the dial, which IMHO is a man made (CHIN) event, watch the other side of the world, especially NZ, which sits on a massive frozen methane shelf. Not necessarily doom and gloom either, just something about to go down between NZ and OZ. (beginnings of it.)

** all pure speculation
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Interesting Speculation there BHD/GHD. Thanks for the heads up. See there was another 2 containers washed off the Rena and they have gone to great lengths to tell us that they know what is in them and they are no threat. One sunk immediatly and one is floating.
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Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :)

Except for the 'Chin-part', I agree with BHD.

Mother Nature is a balance symbiotic organism. We Humans are only a part in that big harmony of triggers and responses. I guess that Methane is needed -like BHD pointed out- in events to come and ongoing. It is a chemical needed in a transformation that is linked with the consistence [make up] of space that we are/Earth is traveling through, with the higher concentrations of neutrino's and gamma rays etc ... and with the nearing 2012 Galactic allignment.

Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work.
In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions.

I suggested that it might be needed to inject more of that kind of bacteria to area's that are now exponentionaly increasing the methane-release ... I only hoped that it would not be VENTER and his 'artificial franken-creations' that would be deployed ....
I hope that in this case BHD could be right and that the Chinese are trying to regulate and control the methane-melt/release [not to have a to big melt at once] by boosting the populations of those bacteria in the arctic > that would be awsome !!!!

All is about balance in regards to the needed elements in this transforming event,
we want to survive and not to become almost extinct.
If we wanna survive and trive, we have to work with Mother Earth and Nature, and not fight her.
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On the move? Scientists discover geothermal activity outside Yellowstone zone

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December 17, 2011 –Wyoming -Yellowstone National Park –NASA’s Landsat satellites have been tracking Yellowstone’s underground geothermal activity, a deep heat that is stored 4,000 miles into the earth’s core. But there are areas where these energy levels are becoming erratic. Old Faithful could be in trouble. The Landsat Program is jointly managed by NASA and the U.S. Geological Survey, beginning its services of remote sensing in 1972. It became part of the Yellowstone National Park’s new monitoring plan in 2005. In addition to remote sensing, Landsat also uses airborne reconnaissance in order to “observe geothermal changes across all of Yellowstone in a systematic and scientific manner.” (NASA) Up until recently, the heat coming from Yellowstone’s underground magma chamber has always been the fuel for over 10,000 of the volcano’s features: Old faithful, hot springs, geysers, mud spots, terraces and mud pots. But NASA is reporting that the Landsat imagery has picked up some unexpected developments outside the park’s borders, also picked up by energy companies beyond the park’s borders. “If that geothermal development outside of the park begins, we need to know whether that’s going to cause Old Faithful to suddenly stop spewing,” says Rick Lawrence of Montana State University. The Landsat satellite allows the scientists to recognize big changes occurring in the geothermal area, like Yellowstone. However, nobody knows what is happening or where due to the satellite’s large pixel size in its imagery. But clues are being found regarding the interconnection of the underground geothermal events. –Digital Journal Contribution by Luisport
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Wauwwww this is huge !!!!!!!




This could be huge too :
Thread: KATLA DOOOOM IS ON!! 230EQS THIS MORNING!!!!
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Thanks, as well.
Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :)

Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work.
In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions.

 Quoting: Krispy71


Very interesting. Any ideas on the physics of this?

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On the move? Scientists discover geothermal activity outside Yellowstone zone

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December 17, 2011 –Wyoming -Yellowstone National Park –NASA’s Landsat satellites have been tracking Yellowstone’s underground geothermal activity, a deep heat that is stored 4,000 miles into the earth’s core. But there are areas where these energy levels are becoming erratic. Old Faithful could be in trouble. The Landsat Program is jointly managed by NASA and the U.S. Geological Survey, beginning its services of remote sensing in 1972. It became part of the Yellowstone National Park’s new monitoring plan in 2005. In addition to remote sensing, Landsat also uses airborne reconnaissance in order to “observe geothermal changes across all of Yellowstone in a systematic and scientific manner.” (NASA) Up until recently, the heat coming from Yellowstone’s underground magma chamber has always been the fuel for over 10,000 of the volcano’s features: Old faithful, hot springs, geysers, mud spots, terraces and mud pots. But NASA is reporting that the Landsat imagery has picked up some unexpected developments outside the park’s borders, also picked up by energy companies beyond the park’s borders. “If that geothermal development outside of the park begins, we need to know whether that’s going to cause Old Faithful to suddenly stop spewing,” says Rick Lawrence of Montana State University. The Landsat satellite allows the scientists to recognize big changes occurring in the geothermal area, like Yellowstone. However, nobody knows what is happening or where due to the satellite’s large pixel size in its imagery. But clues are being found regarding the interconnection of the underground geothermal events. –Digital Journal Contribution by Luisport
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Wauwwww this is huge !!!!!!!




This could be huge too :
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 Quoting: Krispy71


I was discussing the overdue super-eruption at Yellowstone the other day. The official spin on the heat anomalies is that the heat is spreading out therefore relieving pressure making the eruption a remote possibility for any time in the near future.

I was skeptical of that obvious platitude-to-be.
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BUG, there was a thread, and a bit of speculation on this thread regarding a massive tunneling operation from Yellowstone to the GoM as a redirect.

From memory, that idea (some said was in progress) was to close off the GoM at its in and outlets, and create a super algae production plant across the entire GoM. Heating the water was a prerequisite, as was adding large amounts of certain chemicals, commonly found in Yellowstone geisers.
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I just found this interesting, no idea if any connection, but odd nonetheless

Thread: Strange nuclear waste lint might be "biological in nature"

'Strange nuclear waste 'lint'may be biological in nature.'

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Hiya Doob's! hf
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I just found this interesting, no idea if any connection, but odd nonetheless

Thread: Strange nuclear waste lint might be "biological in nature"

'Strange nuclear waste 'lint'may be biological in nature.'

hiding2
 Quoting: Doobie

I was just about to post that too banana2

This is really BEZERK !!!


snips from the article (found at C2C AM)
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-- Scientists at the Department of Energy's Savannah River Site — a nuclear reservation in South Carolina — have identified a strange, cob-web like "growth" (their word, not ours) on the racks of the facility's spent nuclear fuel assemblies.

-- "the growth, which resembles a spider web, has yet to be characterized, but may be biological in nature."

-- the "white, string-like" material was discovered amidst thousands of the spent fuel assemblies, which are submerged in deep nuclear storage pools within SRS's L Area Complex.

-- The safety board's report claimed that the initial sample of the growth was too small to characterize, and that "further evaluation still needs to be completed."
I don't know what's more intriguing — the fact that the "growth" resembles a spider web, the fact that it may be biological in nature, or the fact that (even after collecting a sample of the stuff) we still don't know what it is or where it came from.

-- Could we be dealing with an unknown species of extremophile?

-- the Savannah River Site's storage facility stores spent nuclear waste in pools that are anywhere from 17-30 feet deep, and while that water is enough to protect the site's workers from radiation, the growth was reportedly found underwater on the submerged fuel assemblies themselves




This made me think about the Radioactive resistant FUNGUS in CHERNOBYL (discused here before)
[link to www.foxnews.com]
[link to journals.cambridge.org]


Though this FUNGUS above is BLACK and not WHITE like the spides-web "growth" ...

We could speculate if it is a manifestation of AUgie that we see here ... rockon
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Interactions of heavy metals with white-rot fungi
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

Maybe more research will learn us more about white fungus that is radioactivity resistant ....
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1298 pages ??? WTF?? now this thread has been hijacked about the nuclear fuzz....???

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1298 pages ??? WTF?? now this thread has been hijacked about the nuclear fuzz....???

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nice to see the shills are still hard at work

as are the bezerkers
great thread, carry on


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Thanks, as well.
Tnx Agapao and BHD/GHD :)

Of what I read in an article a few days ago, the melting of the ice is part in this cycle with the melting of the methane, it was said that cold freshwater form a kind of blanked on top of the rising methane in the salt water. It prevented a lot of the methane to surface and escape in the atmosphere. This is a balance-mechanism at work.
In that same article it was said that special kinds of bacteria were eating the methane in normal conditions.

 Quoting: Krispy71


Very interesting. Any ideas on the physics of this?

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similar to a thermal inversion that locks the smog in the city

the upper and lower waters have different densities, and behave like two different materials
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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one more thought

remember rumors of salt shipments.....hhhmmmm, must ponder

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