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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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K, you might find this interesting.

RIP

Carl Sagan's wife Lynn Margulis died just the other day, very close to the anniversary of her Husband's death.

"Lynn Margulis, who has died aged 73, was a microbiologist whose work on the origin of cells transformed the study of evolution; with James Lovelock, she also developed the "Gaia theory" of Earth as a vast self-regulating system.

It was Lynn Margulis’s expertise in microbes that led her, in the mid-Seventies, to the British atmospheric chemist James Lovelock, who had come to suspect that living organisms had a greater effect on the atmosphere than was commonly recognised. Together they proposed a theory that Earth itself — its atmosphere, the geology and the organisms that inhabit it — is a self-regulating system in which living organisms help to regulate the terrestrial and atmospheric conditions that make the planet habitable.

In particular they suggested that plankton act as a living thermostat, helping to regulate global temperature; that bogs and peat lands affect glaciers as the organisms within them release and absorb greenhouse gases; and that colonies of bacteria and other microbes in tidal mud flats process enough salt to help keep ocean salinity fairly constant. It was Lovelock who suggested they call their hypothesis Gaia, after the ancient Greek goddess of the Earth.

Though advancing such theories exposed her to enormous hostility from within the scientific community, she came to be regarded as one of the most creative and respected researchers of her generation.

In the 1960s Lynn Margulis became convinced that, while Darwin had successfully proved that all species of living things are descended from earlier ones, neither he nor his followers had ever satisfactorily explained the source of the variation that gives rise to new species.

She began focusing on the evolution of eukaryotic cells — cells containing a nucleus (a membraned envelope enclosing chromosomes), and organelles (which are distinct structures that perform such functions as photosynthesis). While it was well known that a nucleus contains DNA, Lynn Margulis focused on the genes which exist outside the nucleus, to find a clue to how the earliest bacteria-like cells could have evolved into more complex organisms.

She resurrected a long-ignored idea that the organelles within eukaryotes were once free-living bacteria that had once invaded other bacterial forms. First these were parasites; then they became “symbionts”, providing services for their hosts in return for a protective environment; finally they were fully integrated into their hosts’ biological make-up as organelles.

Lynn Margulis’s theory of “symbiogenesis” challenged the Neo-Darwinist consensus by suggesting that inherited variation does not come, or does not come exclusively, from random genetic mutation but from long-lasting interaction between organisms.

At first the idea met with scorn: her findings were rejected by 15 academic journals and grant applications were brusquely rebuffed. The response to one application was: “Your research is crap. Don’t ever bother to apply again.”

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]


Well, I for one thank her for her contributions. hf
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wow...RIP

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well, I hope ya'll forgive my long windedness, but all comments, I felt needed addressed

a couple thoughts
actually I am a metrologist...scientist of measurement
a disconcerning thought came to mind today while engineering the new sink in the kitchen

I AM A calibrator!!!I cal'd stuff in a lab for 30+years
we all thought of it as a tool or equipment, but what if it is a person?
one with hard core knowledge of this stuff
honestly, it bugged the crap out of me today so bad, I couldn't think.....rattled!!!!
my field is a very close knit thing, and it suddenly concerned me that someone(s) I knew was involved in this
all navy ships have calibrators, in the person sense
I couple this with the lack of "inside info" i have gotten from many sources including shlumbergr and...well, lets just say, no warm and fuzzys...NOT at all
I do not lie to you when I say I am one of a single digit few that knows pvt stuff(press/volumn/temp) measurement wise, and have cal'd stuff for every top name...world wide
I just hope old friend(s) are not on site (as the industry actually demands) knee deep in the middle of this

sorry for the vent, but with a good ramble comes a price...lol
actually, ya'll are the only ones I could tell anyways
I can't or won't talk to my friends or family about this
they'd think I was nuts...who knows...maybe I am
ya'll know what they say about the truth, right..lol

you all seem like very good people, and I wish ya'll were just down the road apiece, 'cause we'd all have to hang out in my gazabo. I'm buying!!! I have followed this since the start. I have tried to relay the "concepts" to "some" (BEZERK lite...lol) but they just don't get it. Some of the stuff here makes the reptiles pretty mundane...lol
well I wish ya'll and your families the very best, for the holidays, and this coming amazing new year. be safe, and pray (send energy) to all those we discuss here finding splash zones, on subs, trying to find the truth, and everywhere/everything else

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DR, did you hear about the guy who cooled himself down to absolute zero?









He's 0K now....1rof1 rimshot

Just keepin the vibe goin...
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DR, did you hear about the guy who cooled himself down to absolute zero?









He's 0K now....1rof1 rimshot

Just keepin the vibe goin...
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thats good

dr
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1011531 France 06/26/2010 10:58 AM
My girl friend has a D.E.D link on her laptop from the French Embassy. (She works at the embassy)

Crazy traffic on DED
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iRobot Seaglider Collecting Valuable Data in the Gulf of MexicoBEDFORD, Mass., May 25, 2010

iRobot (NASDAQ: IRBT), a leader in delivering robotic technology-based solutions, announced that its Seaglider Unmanned Underwater Vehicle (UUV) is currently being used as a platform to collect valuable ocean data in an effort to monitor the recent Gulf of Mexico oil spill. iRobot is working with Dr. Vernon Asper of the Marine Science Department at the University of Southern Mississippi (www.usm.edu) and Dr. Craig Lee from the University of Washington’s Applied Physics Laboratory.

Seaglider measures temperature, salinity and other ocean properties in 3-D at depths of up to 1,000 meters (3,290 feet). It allows researchers to collect data at depths not easily achieved using traditional surface platforms or other UUVs, and to potentially detect the presence of oil and its movement in affected areas. Researchers in the Gulf of Mexico have deployed Seaglider to locate and monitor large clouds of dispersed oil droplets believed to be at depths of approximately 700 meters (2,296 feet). Seaglider can provide up to 10 months of continuous operation, and data can be transmitted via satellite several times each day to anywhere in the world using an Internet-connected device.

“With Seaglider, we are realizing new and important mission profiles that it can support,” said Joe Dyer, president of iRobot’s Government and Industrial Robots division. “Traditionally, gliders have proven themselves to be very useful tools for researchers and oceanographers to collect ocean data. We are pleased that Seaglider is now playing an important role in the recent Gulf efforts. With this technology, we also see potential for the oil and gas industries to monitor existing lines and to detect new offshore oil sources.”

“It is important to track any hydrocarbons that might remain at depths for extended periods of time,” said Dr. Vernon Asper. “Previous data suggests that there may be some of this material at depths below 700 meters and that it appears to be moving. We are working with iRobot to deploy Seaglider in these locations, and we expect to learn a tremendous amount about the path and ultimate fate of this material.”

The iRobot Seaglider is an un-tethered deep-diving UUV designed for missions lasting many months and covering thousands of miles. It is able to perform long endurance missions because it is driven through the water by changes in buoyancy rather than traditional propeller systems. Because it does not need to be operated from a ship or retrieved to gather data, it serves as a very cost-effective platform. More than 120 Seagliders have been delivered to customers worldwide, including the U.S. Navy, government agencies and research organizations.

[link to www.irobot.com]
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Very good timeline of the DWH disaster.

[link to www.guar]

dian.co.uk/environment/interactive/2010/jul/08/bp-oil-spill-t​imeline-interactive?intcmp=239


* repair link to view it.
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Everything old is new again...

Pourquoi Pas? (English: Why Not?) is a research vessel built in Saint-Nazaire, France by Alstom Marine for IFREMER and the French Navy. It is currently primarily used by SHOM (Service hydrographique et océanographique de la Marine). It was ordered in December 2002 and completed in July 2005. The 66 million euro cost was financed by IFREMER (55%) and the French Navy (45%). It is named after explorer Jean-Baptiste Charcot's famous ship.

Pourquoi Pas? is used 150 days per year by the Navy and 180 days per year by IFREMER. It was designed for hydrography, geoscience, and physical, chemical and biological oceanography, as well as to launch small submarines such as the manned submersible Nautile and the ROV Victor 6000.

Notably, the Pourquoi Pas? has been used for the 2007 deployment and connection operations for the ANTARES neutrino telescope.

In 2008, the Pourquoi Pas? was used for the initial testing and operations of the PERISCOP, a pressurized deep sea fish recovery device.

In June 2009 it assisted in the recovery of Air France Flight 447.



She has been involved in some amazing operations...
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[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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googled this from your posted article
"Dr. Craig Lee from the University of Washington’s Applied Physics Laboratory"

and got this:

[link to iop.apl.washington.edu]

An Innovative Observational Network for Critical Arctic GatewaysCraig M. Lee - APL, University of Washington
Jason Gobat - APL, University of Washington
Dick Moritz - Polar Science Center, University of Washington
Brian Petrie - Bedford Institute of Oceanography

Overview Observational program > Background > Results Publications > People


OVERVIEW
As part of coordinated domestic and international efforts to (1) quantify the variability of fluxes connecting the Arctic and subpolar oceans, (2) understand the role played by the Arctic and sub-Arctic in steering decadal scale climate variability and (3) establish a pan-Arctic integrated observing network, we are developing an integrated observing system to monitor exchanges at the critical Arctic -- sub-Arctic gateway at Davis Strait. Fluxes through the Strait represent

the term flux is most often applied to energy, but can also refer to change

I wonder if they are the ones that found the methane?
must read more...

dr
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then I did this guy

Dr. Vernon Asper of the Marine Science Department at the University of Southern Mississippi

and got this:

[link to www.usm.edu]

now chect this out

Dr. Asper's research focuses on investigations of particle dynamics, including their formation, settling characteristics, decomposition, remineralization, and eventual fate, and uses a suite of imaging technologies and computerized sensors, many of which have been designed and fabricated at USM. Examples include the MAGENUM (Marine AGgregate ENUMerator) which investigates the abundance of larger aggregates throughout the water column, the MASCOT (Marine Aggregate Setting Collector and Observation Tube) which investigates the flux and sinking speed of aggregates using a moored sediment trap/camera combination, and a Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV). The ROV has been equipped with a digital still camera, acoustic navigation system, altimeter, and a novel 3-dimensional, laser-scanned imaging system.

and his projects are going on in antartica
and

Stennis space center

which along with designing rocket engines has this going on
[link to www.coastal.ssc.nasa.gov]

so, both poles under water, and overhead imaging thru stennis
and the gulf

could these guys be "captain splash zone and his trusty sidekick"?

another big hhhmmmm.....

dr
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[link to www.coastal.ssc.nasa.gov]

density mapping for oxygen content

check out the map and the interesting lack of data and stations in a certain area

[link to www.ncddc.noaa.gov]

if you go to the left, and manually select stations
it seems that suddenly for 2010-2011 all stations, except 2 are gone

now the question is blackout of info, or did the pollution kill the sensors

bhd, good direction for the day

it amazes me how this stuff is as interconnected as a spiderweb

dr
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check it out

1300 pages

wahooooo!!!

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and now we have another link

Dr. Vernon Asper

Project:ROSS SEA, ANTARCTICA (IVARS):

which brings us to

[link to web.vims.edu]

note the first picture

the polar star, the converted ice breaker, cruise ship, that was reported to also have "run aground" on ground that was not supposed to be there

and the pic of that ship in bhd's neighborhood is interestion, too

dr
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1300 !!!!!

dance

woohoo woohoo woohoo woohoo woohoo woohoo woohoo

yeah


So many great posts and connections !!!
I am proud of you all !!!!!


I regret to have no time replying to them right now, and to the ones of Isis,
I have a lot of things going on at home (not 'bad', only 'bussy').

I hope I can find some time soon to exchange thoughts !


YOU GUYS & GURLS ROCK !!!!



cheer cheer cheer cheer cheer cheer cheer cheer

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Well done everyone.

1300 pages, nearly 2 million views, and 12,349 BS flags.

I think we might be on to something?

hf
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and now we have another link

Dr. Vernon Asper

Project:ROSS SEA, ANTARCTICA (IVARS):

which brings us to

[link to web.vims.edu]

note the first picture

the polar star, the converted ice breaker, cruise ship, that was reported to also have "run aground" on ground that was not supposed to be there

and the pic of that ship in bhd's neighborhood is interestion, too

dr
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You know the Brit's were building 'ice' ships in WWII made from frozen water and news paper. They were supposed to be aircraft carriers/run ways in the colder regions of the planet.

Maybe all these broken off chunks, whilst all pristine and white on the surface, are mounted with motors beneath?

Controllable bergs...

** not that this has anything to do with anything!
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and now we have another link

Dr. Vernon Asper

Project:ROSS SEA, ANTARCTICA (IVARS):

which brings us to

[link to web.vims.edu]

note the first picture

the polar star, the converted ice breaker, cruise ship, that was reported to also have "run aground" on ground that was not supposed to be there

and the pic of that ship in bhd's neighborhood is interestion, too

dr
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You know the Brit's were building 'ice' ships in WWII made from frozen water and news paper. They were supposed to be aircraft carriers/run ways in the colder regions of the planet.

Maybe all these broken off chunks, whilst all pristine and white on the surface, are mounted with motors beneath?

Controllable bergs...

** not that this has anything to do with anything!
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Awsome thought BHD !!!!!!

5a

Perfectly 'hidden' in plain sight !!!!

A few weeks ago while researching something about the arctics, I came along a site that had JUST SUCH A THING !!!! It was a gamerssite [ofcourse!!!], or connected to a game you could play online just like world-of-warcraft but then with subs.
They had a kind of contest of creating drawings for A LIFEBASE BENEATH AN ICEBERG ... HIDDEN .... not visable from above, only from beneath. It was harbouring subs and the whole shabang. Pretty awsome designs were shown.
It caught my attention coz it made me think about BEZERK and the oilrigs. It was genius.


Maybe 1 of the other people here on the thread know wich site it was. Would be cool to share it with all of you.

hf
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Science Wednesday: Tox21’s 10,000 Compound List
Posted on December 14th, 2011 - 10:30 AM

But this year the most impressive “list” I’ve come across came out last week, when EPA and its partners from the National Institutes of Health and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced the compounds to be tested as part of the collaborative Tox21 research program over the next couple of years

Only the list is slightly more robust than ten—it’s a 10,000 compound library.

The library contains chemicals covering a wide variety of classifications, including chemicals found in industrial processes, consumer products, and food additives, as well as human and veterinary drugs. A large number of reference compounds are also included to give researchers access to different toxicological or disease endpoints, duplicate compounds for evaluating test methods, and a small set of chemical mixtures for a pilot study.

“The Tox21 partnership integrates revolutionary advances in molecular biology, chemistry, and computer science to quickly and cost-effectively screen the thousands of chemicals in use today,” said Paul Anastas, Ph.D., the Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Research and Development.

more at source link:
[link to blog.epa.gov]

hf
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This caught my eye and smelled like BEZERK,
or possibly/probably used in the whole Bezerkness of AUgie ...

•Research ways to use new tools to identify chemical induced biological activity mechanisms.
•Develop models that can be used to more effectively predict how chemicals will affect biological responses.
(Chemicals like corexit ???)

Wasnt VENTER connected to this ?? --> National Human Genome Research Institute
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bsflag

My uncle's in the French Navy and he says this is disinfo.
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Make that 12,350 BS flags.
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bsflag

My uncle's in the French Navy and he says this is disinfo.
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How about you and your Uncle read it from page one, then give an opinion.

Merry Christmas, if you are so inclined. hf
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Science Wednesday: Tox21’s 10,000 Compound List
Posted on December 14th, 2011 - 10:30 AM

But this year the most impressive “list” I’ve come across came out last week, when EPA and its partners from the National Institutes of Health and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced the compounds to be tested as part of the collaborative Tox21 research program over the next couple of years

Only the list is slightly more robust than ten—it’s a 10,000 compound library.

The library contains chemicals covering a wide variety of classifications, including chemicals found in industrial processes, consumer products, and food additives, as well as human and veterinary drugs. A large number of reference compounds are also included to give researchers access to different toxicological or disease endpoints, duplicate compounds for evaluating test methods, and a small set of chemical mixtures for a pilot study.

“The Tox21 partnership integrates revolutionary advances in molecular biology, chemistry, and computer science to quickly and cost-effectively screen the thousands of chemicals in use today,” said Paul Anastas, Ph.D., the Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Research and Development.

more at source link:
[link to blog.epa.gov]

hf
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This caught my eye and smelled like BEZERK,
or possibly/probably used in the whole Bezerkness of AUgie ...

•Research ways to use new tools to identify chemical induced biological activity mechanisms.
•Develop models that can be used to more effectively predict how chemicals will affect biological responses.
(Chemicals like corexit ???)

Wasnt VENTER connected to this ?? --> National Human Genome Research Institute
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yes, and to be in fact, I have a magazine someplace that said he had actually been the one that completed the genome profile and won the patent on human life

can't find it now...if ever, lol...if ya'll ever came over for dinner, you'd know why
looks more like a mages tower than anything else upstairs...

(not as bad now as I have made a couple bookshelfs, and the tall one is 9 1/2 feet tall, and the short one is 6 foot and winds in a Z for 15 feet...but they are already full...lol...many books before 1950...my pride of a library)
but still crap in all the corners

dr
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bsflag

My uncle's in the French Navy and he says this is disinfo.
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then surrender and shut up

dr
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I have been thinking about a couple things regarding the supercritical water
it is apparently a strong oxidizer
now, with what I know about the "reported conditions" down deep in the oil holes, water would exhibit the same conditions naturally at the DWH depths...so...

lets assume...yes I know...lol...

that as the deeper we go thru the earths crust, water changes from normal water to supercritical water. this then gives us a "boundry layer" think fatal electric fence/moat

if we have "dumb oil" that exhists above that layer and is the oil we have used for centuries for fuel, because it oozes thru the ground eventually to the surface...it is not very old...might even be augie cavier (aka offspring)

now, below that point of pressure and temp that causes our water to go critical (scientific given) we have oil that has (possibly) been around for a VERY long time, because it can't escape without being destroyed, can never cross that barrier, so develops into a sentient being thru raw dog evolution.

now, enter modern man, drilling holes everywhere. at first somehow, a bit "leaks" thru drilling. if it can still communicate to the smart oil below, it relays either its in trouble, or in the words of tommy (the Who) I'M FREEE!!!!. so now this smart layer which would be massive, and in theory be a layer under the surface generally world wide, now wants to escape. either because its more like a mother bear trying to rescue its cub, or sees (if much smarter than a bear) what freedom holds for it. the russians may have been the ones to first "capture the cub" but either way now mama is pissed, and starts to look for holes. being as it never knew it could breach the barrier before, it never even tried, but when someone opened the pandoras box, it realized that escape was possible. this could explain a lot about its behavior.

splash zones are natural fissures that it can survive the transition thru by hiding inside frozen water as a hydrate. It didn't know this before, but learns quickly. (and we taught it that)
now because we burn "dumb oil" it thinks we are a threat because we would burn it too (and we probably would if we could con it into the gas tank) so now its the classic fight or flight situation, but then we start genocide on it in the form of corexit and vetters cindy. the corexit makes it mad, and the "war" begins between augie and cindy. augie only knows transmutation of materials, but because conditions are vastly different its ability to transmute is in the "learning stage currently" cindy, on the other hand only wants to eat augie, which in turn stresses augie worse.
cindy, on the other hand, is out of hand, because it is pooping out enough material to cause some of the worse algea blooms ever. additionally cindy has also gottin a taste for diesel and jet fuel hence the summer shut down of the isreali airport (kinda tells ya where she came from) because of biofilm byproducts clogging aircracft and fueling systems.
the truckstops in the us now sell an anti bio agent to add to diesel. I have been around trucks and equipment since the 70's and this was never a problem. I honestly think a version of cindy is attacking the gasoline now too. I have pulled carberators that have long strings of white in them from mowers and chain saws. (I have also found this in auto windshield squirter tanks too) it never did that before 5 years ago! it turned into dark brown goo, more like tar. don't believe me, get a small sample of fuel in a glass container, cover it like you've got a frog in it, park it in the shade and watch it. you'll get long string stuff that looks like algea...(morgellens????) it doesn't turn to goo anymore.
IHMO thats cindy, or at least her byproduct.
maybe to make sure our fuel can't be stockpiled, I don't know, but its damned sure different

well let me know what ya'll thinkabout the latest ramblings of a mad man

sorry about the long rant/rave/ramble

and for the record, sorry about the freak put about the calibrators thing, and I am activly seeking out old friends (and getting poor results because the current "economic situation" has led to many labs being closed or moved...keep track of your friends all...)

happly holidays and hang on for an amazing 2012...mayans or not...lol

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Had to pump 1300...

Cz


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Had to pump 1300...

Cz


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Hiya Cz

Hope your holiday was all it should be.

My family just went home! Now, I can kick back and rest. lol

rockon
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Sorry I haven't followed up on my earlier post as promised, but was very busy just before and during Christmas. Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. Must admit I was glad of the rest.

Ok...so to follow on from earlier thoughts about the possibility of another star entering our system.

Another book that I read called "Mary's message to the world," by Annie Kirkwood came my way, (printed in 1991),a very different book to that of Kraspedon's ET visitor, but one that also talked about this solar system being upgraded by another star.
Now, I'm not particularly religious, and this book is apparently about the virgin Mary giving a message to Annie Kirkwood about the changes coming upon the Earth, and the
importance of not worshiping her, but God, and that the connection to God is within each of us. Now I'm not sure Jesus actually walked the Earth, let alone there being a virgin Mary,but thats not important...millions do believe this and that's what is important. Many explanations for events come via a coventional wisdom route, presumably not to upset or pull the rug completely from those of a particular religious flavour.
There is a great deal of information regarding storms growing worse, EQ's growing in strength and frequency, tsunamis and volcanic erruptions etc etc...then mention of this star.
I'll quote the passage..."There is a wave of new and different energy approaching this system and Earth, and in this new energy will be the makings of new stars, and a new sun which will enter the immediate solar system."
Later in the book there is a chapter called "The Aftertime," and begins with..."It is time for an evolutionary period to come to Earth. This will be a period of great growth for mankind, he will evolve into a new species, and this evolutionary process will come about
because of the need to adjust. The atmosphere will change in components. The solar system will be different. A new sun will be added. This will be a binary system. (I guess triple if the dark star is true. my comment.) The two suns will activate cells which will draw nourishment from the suns rays. The need to ingest food will be aided by the nourishment derived from the suns' rays. (well, we get vit.D and other benefits now...so maybe a step up
from this, and need less heavy food.)
This passage goes on to say..."Man will evolve into a more mental being, apparently we will be able to hear and see things we cannot at the moment. We will see through particles of light which are hidden to us now. Psychic and intuitional abilities will be greatly enhanced, we will speak and hear with our minds...we will not be able to hide our thoughts or feelings etc etc."
Mmmm well, you can see where TPTB would not like something like this coming here. No more hiding anything, we could not be tricked into doing something against our best interests, they would be finished.
Kraspedon's book made an interesting reference to the fact that if this sun were to be even partially activated outside our solar system, (the passage in the book said firing certain electro- magnetic pulses at it could begin ignition), then our solar system's magnetic shields would not allow the star into this system...i.e. would repel it away, also even if there were only radiation emissions from the star, the same would apply. If lit of course the star's own light pressure would push it away. It has to be inactive, inert to our system to get in.
Would TPTB be interested in preventing this star entering our system? Would they try to activate it enough to cause it to bypass us? I'd say if there is indeed a star with this systems name on it, then they would certainly try to prevent its arrival.
Ok, well...the only other item I can add at this point is my own remote viewing of the inner core so to speak, of the astronomy going on at the South Pole.
The illuminist cabal down there is represented by Jesuit astronomers, at least where I was looking anyway, who have their own psychic spies/guards to protect against such things as remote viewing by outsiders and other forms of intrusion. Antarctica is now under an NSA blanket, and they are working at some levels with ETs directly.
Always thought it was odd that the Vatican had their own astronomers...obviously their faith didn't keep them warm at night...how little did I know back then.
I really wanted to get to the truth about what they were looking at down there, and after studying RVing and learning the pitfalls and dangers associated with it, decided to try to find out what was so interesting down there. I prepared, relaxed and began to focus and found myself in this dark place, and suddenly facing an elderly guy with a white/gray beard who looked decidedly shocked as I faced him and then brushed him aside and moved forward to a couple of monitors with 2 techies, one sat down and the other pacing about. I had decided before this attempt to get in fast, absorb as much info as fast as possible, and get out fast.
What I hadn't realised was that I had gone in at the point of discovery of what they were looking at on the screen...had no idea RV was possible on a timeline. (perhaps I had help with this...I've no idea.) It was only afterwards that I thought that the moniters looked an
old type, certainly not current nor state of the art. This probably explains the low key protection as well.
The left monitor showed a large disc in banded colours, presumably a false colour rendering using a non-visual wavelength image. What wavelength they were using I've no idea.
The techies were perplexed by what they were seeing, the feeling was one of anxiety, what the hell was it, what could it be kind of thing. I have to say the whole place seemed to be running on a fear vibration...not pleasant, and I wanted to get out of there.
The right monitor showed a mass of data which didn't mean anything to me and had no time to look further. Then I got out fast. I did this in 2007, but I don't know when I was viewing this stuff...certainly 2 or 3 decades previous, maybe more.
When I focus on the unlit star itself I get an image of a completely black body, but there is a layer right around the outside of it. The best way I can describe this layer is its like the miniscus layer when you fill a glass with water, and slightly overfill it. Look at that miniscus at eye level and imagine colours moving around within this layer. The colours are not continuous, but fleeting.
That's all I have on the RV side of things, and further attempts resulted in nothing.
Its tempting for me to conclude they may have been looking at an unlit star out there in the
ribbon, but really it could of been anything. I'm also aware we can all be programmed or set up in some way, so if nothing resonates...just move on.
A few weeks after I RV'd the S.Pole astronomy I did get first a large silver military helicopter flew very low over our back garden a couple of times, then some time later while up at my Mum's place a black helo hovered over the house for 20 minutes or so. Even the windows were black on this thing. Anyway, I think they were trying to intimidate me, but whether it was to do with my RV visit or other stuff I was doing at the time...chemtrail clearing, weather amelioration, I don't know.
Anyway, I'm looking now at whether this unlit star scenario is a possibility or not, starting with what NASA has said this knot in the ribbon is composed of and working from
there.
It seems the dichotomy is that this body would have to be inactive to get through our solar system defences, and yet drawn to this system at the same time.
While our understanding of the universe has improved greatly, especially with the electric universe physics, we are still in our infancy regarding magnetic fields and their properties , and while we are learning fast, I don't believe the universe has run out of suprises for us just yet.
Will post links on the science if I feel it could be relevant.
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hhmm...interesting

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Hello Cosmos,

Thanks for your post ! It is fantastic and facinating at the same time !!!! I feel a lot of excitement about it :D

I have read Maria Magdalena stuff before, and there is a lot of interresting things said in those books.
I cant remember that of the un-ignited sun .. but it was probably a different book.

It feels valid to me ...
Specially the things you said about being repelled if ignition happened before entering !!! Thats pure truth and logic ! Thats even how things work in biology also :D


Yes with RV you can end up in an other timeline. I know this from my own experiences too.


I am so happy that you posted your thoughts hf


xx Krisp
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I hope everyone had marvelous hollidays with many moments to cherisch and to remember with a warm feeling and smile on their face :D

I wish for everyone to have a wonderfull and fantastic change of year in a few days.
Next year this time, the Big Allignment has happened ...
I am curious what next Xmass will bring for changes.


Big hugs and bundles of joy,
xxx krispy

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