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Thaumarchaeota?

Is certainly topical, thanks to the Daily Mail article just posted, with pictures of the deep slime found in Australia.

Here is a snip about it, dialled off the web with a spot of "chapter and verse" to give it a flavour.

Note a link to the DNA genome.

Abstract

DNA topoisomerase IB (TopoIB) was thought for a long time to be a eukaryotic specific enzyme. A shorter version was then found in viruses and later on in several bacteria, but not in archaea. Here, we show that a eukaryotic-like TopoIB is present in the recently sequenced genomes of two archaea of the newly proposed phylum Thaumarchaeota.

Phylogenetic analyses suggest that a TopoIB was present in the last common ancestor of Archaea and Eucarya. This finding indicates that the last common ancestor of Archaea and Eucarya may have harboured a DNA genome.
 Quoting: integrator


LAST COMON ANCESTOR ...
LUCA

Remember my last post about it ???


Dear M/S Beatroot!

Thank you very much for brilliantly reviewing David Wood's synopsis of our "reality", from his: GENE SET (ICE GOD) and this is
incredibly helpful for us BEZERKERS

Hence as Part II, from his same book ...

<SNIP>

Hence the elimination of the dinosaurs.


Could this have been the original seeding where the intelligent, life forming AuGie was first hidden in the Earth ~ we might ask ourselves
?

<snip>

PART III (about COMET ELENIN) follows later.
 Quoting: integrator


Dear PPPI,

I realy realy dont mean this harsh, but this is where TUTU and sometimes I and others go in sigh

I realy dont know if you read the whole thread, but we mentioned the Impact crater and the possibilities in relation with AUgie yes-or-no paaaaaaaages back ...

<SNIP>

The OP started this thread with many aspects ...
one of them was that this organism was PRIMORDIAL ...

imo the time of the dinosaurs is pretty damn fossil, but not primordial ...

Imo you have to go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and wayyyyyyy back, when RNA ruled over DNA.

I posted many links that backed this thesis.

Please go back and read them, or track them down.

<snip>

AUgie is linked to water [salt & fresh] [Earth and Sun] and the first SOUP out of where organisms evolved according the TONE and resonance of what and where Earth was [part of] back then.

Tiamath Amaru, the essence out of which all life emerged ... our first mitochondrial Parent and which fused with Earth/Gaia to form a matrix and feedback-system.

AUgie is derived/part of 'The Mother-Essence-of All-Earth-Life' ....


hf xxxMzK
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KRISPY ~ most helpful to BEZERKERS for your recap of your original views on this early history thank you

<snip>


Back to your TIAMATH AMARU visions, are we to understand that at the primordial commencement of creation, female eggs multiplied without male fertilization so that the MITOCHONDRIAL DNA was passed down freely, through each division of the cell?

So ~ Is BORSCHT the secret elixir recommended, to avoid genetic manipulation ~ one might ask oneself.
 Quoting: integrator


Hello PPPI

Yes it was clear that you copied a part out of DW his texts.


But my reply was mostly becoz of the green text of YOU:


Could this have been the original seeding where the intelligent, life forming AuGie was first hidden in the Earth ~ we might ask ourselves
?
 Quoting: PPPI


I posted many times about mitrochondrial DNA and about PARTHENOGENESIS [link to en.wikipedia.org]
in older posts ...

Yes DNA was transferred to off-spring without male fertilisation.
Also called 'Virgin Birth' ...


a form of asexual reproduction in which growth and development of embryos occur without fertilization.

Parthenogenesis can occur without meiosis through mitotic oogenesis. This is called apomictic parthenogenesis. Mature egg cells are produced by mitotic divisions, and these cells directly develop into embryos.
The offspring produced by apomictic parthenogenesis are full clones of their mother. Examples include aphids.

In apomictic parthenogenesis, the offspring are clones of the mother and hence are usually (except for aphids) female. In the case of aphids, parthenogenetically produced males and females are clones of their mother except that the males lack one of the X chromosomes (XO).[22]

Parthenogenesis occurs naturally in many plants, some invertebrate animal species (including nematodes, water fleas, some scorpions, aphids, some bees, some Phasmida, and parasitic wasps) and a few vertebrates (such as some fish,[2] amphibians, reptiles,[3][4] and very rarely birds[5]).

Normal egg cells form after meiosis and are haploid, with half as many chromosomes as their mother's body cells. Haploid individuals, however, are usually non-viable, and parthenogenetic offspring usually have the diploid chromosome number. Depending on the mechanism involved in restoring the diploid number of chromosomes, parthenogenetic offspring may have anywhere between all and half of the mother's alleles. The offspring having all of the mother's genetic material are called full clones and those having only half are called "half clones". Full clones are usually formed without meiosis. If meiosis occurs, the offspring will get only a fraction of the mother's alleles.

Some species reproduce exclusively by parthenogenesis (such as the Bdelloid rotifers), while others can switch between sexual reproduction and parthenogenesis. This is called facultative parthenogenesis or cyclical parthenogenesis. ...
The switch between sexuality and parthenogenesis in such species may be triggered by the season (aphid, some gall wasps), or by a lack of males or by conditions that favour rapid population growth (rotifers and cladocerans like daphnia). In these species asexual reproduction occurs either in summer (aphids) or as long as conditions are favourable. This is because in asexual reproduction a successful genotype can spread quickly without being modified by sex or wasting resources on male offspring who won't give birth.
Facultative parthenogenesis is believed to be a response to a lack of a viable male. A female may undergo facultative parthenogenesis if a male is absent from the habitat or if it is unable to produce viable offspring. This behavior has been documented in sharks, komodo dragons and a variety of domesticated birds.
There are a number of documented species, specifically salamanders and geckos that rely on obligate parthenogenesis as their major method of reproduction. As such, there are over 80 species of unisex reptiles, amphibians and fishes in nature, for which males are no longer a part of the reproductive process.[24] A female will produce an ovum with a full set (two sets of genes) provided solely by the mother. Thus, a male is not needed to provide sperm to fertilize the egg.


Parthenogenesis is distinct from artificial animal cloning, a process where the new organism is necessarily genetically identical to the cell donor. In cloning, the nucleus of a diploid cell from a donor organism is inserted into an enucleated egg cell and the cell is then stimulated to undergo continued mitosis, resulting in an organism that is genetically identical to the donor. Parthenogenesis is different, in that it originates from the genetic material contained within an egg cell.
 Quoting: Parthenogenesis wiki



LUCA : Last Universal Common Ancestor
“the last universal common
ancestor [LUCA] may have comprised a population of
organisms with different genotypes that lived in different
places at different times”
 Quoting: booktext



What if the (AUgie)fluid under the Antarctic Ice is a form of LUCA ???

What if indeed, like we suspect, through intent and TONE .... current vibrations that will dictate data and bleuprint into this fluid so that it could morph into anything ...
Tone and vibration being different at every location and in every time-frame !
Tone defines form.


Further scientific study has revealed that female DNA is much older then male DNA.
mitochondrial Eve older than Y-chromosomal Adam
The best estimates right now are that Mitochondrial Eve lived 200+-13 kya, while Y-chromosomal Adam lived 142+-15 kya.

This above is about HUMANS, but it goes the same for earlier bacterial and primordial lifeforms.


The discovery of Mitochondrial Eve gave crucial support to the Recent African Origin model, which held that modern humans only evolved, most likely in East Africa, somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 years ago. All older fossils discovered elsewhere represented hominid lineages that had since gone extinct.
 Quoting: the web


It is my personal opinion that the arrival of the Anunaki and other aliens who started mixing their genes with the genes of an 'Original Terran Indigenous Elder Race' (the Gloden Ones).
This could have well been about 200,000 yrs ago ... (one could calculate it by counting up the cycles).

In my interpretation the Aliens were [eventually] allowed to "experiment" with a few specific species of creatures living in that time-frame ... One of them was a monkey-like life-from where in later years the 'Homo Sapience' came from.
Other species that were "created/genetically engineered-manipulated" have gone extinct ... (giants - dwarfs - hybrid forms - tiny flying species - etc ... )

The fact that "Aliens" SEEDED their chromosomes and MASTERED chromosomes and DNA is also the reason why TPTB are so fixated on the PATRIARCHAL CULTUS !
It is the celebration that their Masters mastered DNA and overtook the Matriarchal heritage.
By this you understand history much better ...lol...


Imo the timeline would be:
there was first Earth/Gaia, then Tiamath Amaru merged with Earth, AUgie, LUCA, life formed/morphed, all kinds of lifeforms [small-simple-complex-humanoids-etc...], the Indigenous Race, the arrival of the Aliens, genetic manipulations, Eve & Adam, etc ...


xxxMzK
 Quoting: Krispy71


hf
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Looks like someone on the Crew is committed to perpetuating story of the coming infection will be Alien not Man man in a Lab by Craig Venter.

I have had death threats[multiple threats, and people wonder why I have no respect for Acolyte and Nexus and who they work for] for pointing out the sickness springing up around the GOM, particularly as I fingered BP and Mr Venter as the culprits.

If you have been in the CT scene long enough you have read the many plots to introduce a Virus in mass to the planet [or just the USA] which requires people to go to check points and be separated depending on their status. It has been long though IMMUNIZATIONS would be offered by those who refused would be interred in FEMA camps [or similar around the world or just shot on site]

Seems this Scenario has been rewritten by "The Office" to suit a new generation.

Seems someone wants to point the story and blame away from any Known corporate criminals [the employers obviously] towards unknowns and purely speculative sources who have yet to be established as even existing in a Laboratory sense to even a far out conspiracy sense.

"Oh God, it must be natural, not a creation of Venter in a Lab"

What Craig Venter does is about to creating a weapon that could attack the base of any living structure, it is a bio-weapon, it can be directed to perform any function and create itself as it goes.
Why every country in the world isn't jumping up and down decrying the use in th general environment is telling I think.

I guess they also have a cure [prophylactic] considering the amount of people who have been convinced to sell their fellow man out rather than deliver the truth of Craig Venter's invention, the most adaptable and unstoppable Bio-weapon on the planet. Makes you wonder how susceptible Microbes are to Radiation.

People will be smarter?
Intelligence is knowing the fire is Hot.
Wisdom is knowing not to put your hand in it.
I know a lot of extremely intelligent people who lack basic wisdoms.
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I agree with you AC NZ.
The [bio-weapon] implications of Venters chimera's [like Synthia] are not seen or noticed by the mainstream populous !
Anywho who is shedding the light on to it is/forms a danger in the eyes of "the Gamers".

But ...
there is one thing that Venter and The Gamers [like I like to call them, Aco's bosses and the other factions and the Elites] are afraid of ...
one thing they cant 'control' or 'manipulate' or even understand,
and that is the fluid/organisms/state that we called AUgie and its origin !
This imo, after so many posts and shared thoughts and contributions of others, is THE ANTI-DOTE against everything. The key to everything .... and it is not in THEIR control ... nor in their favor ...


Aside from AUgie,
I do think they "think" they have a 'cure' to the ravage that 'Synthia & consorts' can do [to save their own players and important pions]...
but it might turn out that Their "CREATION" gets out of control and out of THEIR control/reach ...
but They are to blind and ignorant to believe such a bummer, They think They are gods ...




Tnx for your thoughts AC NZ hf
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Looks like someone on the Crew is committed to perpetuating story of the coming infection will be Alien not Man man in a Lab by Craig Venter.

I have had death threats[multiple threats, and people wonder why I have no respect for Acolyte and Nexus and who they work for] for pointing out the sickness springing up around the GOM, particularly as I fingered BP and Mr Venter as the culprits.

If you have been in the CT scene long enough you have read the many plots to introduce a Virus in mass to the planet [or just the USA] which requires people to go to check points and be separated depending on their status. It has been long though IMMUNIZATIONS would be offered by those who refused would be interred in FEMA camps [or similar around the world or just shot on site]

Seems this Scenario has been rewritten by "The Office" to suit a new generation.

Seems someone wants to point the story and blame away from any Known corporate criminals [the employers obviously] towards unknowns and purely speculative sources who have yet to be established as even existing in a Laboratory sense to even a far out conspiracy sense.

"Oh God, it must be natural, not a creation of Venter in a Lab"

What Craig Venter does is about to creating a weapon that could attack the base of any living structure, it is a bio-weapon, it can be directed to perform any function and create itself as it goes.
Why every country in the world isn't jumping up and down decrying the use in th general environment is telling I think.

I guess they also have a cure [prophylactic] considering the amount of people who have been convinced to sell their fellow man out rather than deliver the truth of Craig Venter's invention, the most adaptable and unstoppable Bio-weapon on the planet. Makes you wonder how susceptible Microbes are to Radiation.

People will be smarter?
Intelligence is knowing the fire is Hot.
Wisdom is knowing not to put your hand in it.
I know a lot of extremely intelligent people who lack basic wisdoms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858603


I agree with you AC NZ.
The [bio-weapon] implications of Venters chimera's [like Synthia] are not seen or noticed by the mainstream populous !
Anywho who is shedding the light on to it is/forms a danger in the eyes of "the Gamers".

But ...
there is one thing that Venter and The Gamers [like I like to call them, Aco's bosses and the other factions and the Elites] are afraid of ...
one thing they cant 'control' or 'manipulate' or even understand,
and that is the fluid/organisms/state that we called AUgie and its origin !
This imo, after so many posts and shared thoughts and contributions of others, is THE ANTI-DOTE against everything. The key to everything .... and it is not in THEIR control ... nor in their favor ...


Aside from AUgie,
I do think they "think" they have a 'cure' to the ravage that 'Synthia & consorts' can do [to save their own players and important pions]...
but it might turn out that Their "CREATION" gets out of control and out of THEIR control/reach ...
but They are to blind and ignorant to believe such a bummer, They think They are gods ...




Tnx for your thoughts AC NZ hf
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Yup.

A lot of this plays out like the plot lines from Millennium and the X-files [chris carter was feed information from "The Aviary" as genuine to create story lines from, they also supply information to be published by other people we know] but the people who think the info they are passing is real are being played. Like in the x-files and Millennium scripts they have no doubt been promised a cure or prophylactic {that will likely kill them on the spot or within the week if they are stupid enough to think they are really going to have a place in the new order} and think they are now superior to the rest of us.]
They look for people Ego dominated to use as tools, look at the controlled Politicians of the world.

A plague or disease will sweep the world [the Blu flu] and a cure will be sought as many people will become sick and die. Nice stories like if you survive you will be smarter will be little consolation to those who die.
But unless some of the members here are doing experiments on people with such substances how do they know the information to be accurate?

New diseases just don't happen according to orthodox Medicine, the diseases we encounter have been around as long as humans according to them. New diseases can't happen, they can be created however, AIDS HIV etc.

I have been observing the weaponization of a few historical sicknesses such as the 1918 influenza [SARS] Seems to be a concerted effort around this. Add to that all the Microbiologists who have been X'ed in the last 10 years, but further still add to that the spate of them [10 at least from what I recall]that died after working for th UK government in the late 80's and suggests a highly organized effort to create something and then cover it up.
Some of those scientists spoke about what they did before they died under mysterious circumstances. They said a Bio-weapon of unimaginable terror was what they had worked on.

I know some people who had historical connections to Porton Down, I think I have more than a few clues to what goes on behind closed doors.

Unless someone grows some real balls and speaks up they are dooming Millions [perhaps billions] to an unnecessary death, it doesn't seem to worry them at all, sign of the Psychopath.
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TERRA forming = modifying the planet to suit a species specific needs.

BIO forming = modifying a formed organism/body to suit a species specific needs.

I see BP, Venter and related corp's (not corpse) playing as above so below, and attacking on both fronts.

So, Cap'n, who left the cage door open?



EDIT - to the person asking - yes I believe in ETs, thanks for geting it! LOL

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TERRA forming = modifying the planet to suit a species specific needs.

BIO forming = modifying a formed organism/body to suit a species specific needs.

I see BP, Venter and related corp's (not corpse) playing as above so below, and attacking on both fronts.

So, Cap'n, who left the cage door open?



EDIT - to the person asking - yes I believe in ETs, thanks for geting it! LOL
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I look at a question like that like a starting point of thought, there are many paths. Until something is disproved entirely it should not be discarded as a possibility [I grew up as kid reading the "Three Investigators" and the "Hardy Boys" "Sherlock Holmes"] Sometimes you use a speculation to see where it can lead and if the other side is solid and fits the overall scene it gets closer to the "very possible" pile of ideas.

We live in a chaotic system, it has possibilities that could not be predicted. No battle plan survives long after contact with the enemy. another demonstration of this chaotic system in action. No plan is hard and fast unless it is utterly simple and even then things can go wrong.
That could be the cage door.

Another possibility is when you go around messing with a vast consciousness [the planet] it might decide to mess back.
It often seems to me like all these Mega corporations are attacking the planet.

They are also real controlling types, comes of having no Trust or Heart. The elaborate systems we live in are of their design, full of rules and regulations for everything possible.

Modifying the planet.
Alter the frequencies it uses could also be a way of doing that, play with Nukes HAARP and the ionosphere perhaps?
If they are modifying the planet then why? [I ask this question often]

If you look at the glacial period patterns it shows we are about to enter one in theory.
Previously over the last 2 million years we have had to live between the tropics during intense Glaciation. That wipes out a lot of places we currently reside in and makes other areas rather a lot more valuable than they appear now.
Perhaps some people are thinking rather longer term about their Empire's future?

Changing the Bio-sphere.
I can't think of too many good reasons for this if you are and want to remain Human.
Science fiction has shown us we can be what we want to be once we master genetics. It has also posed some possible ideas about where that may lead.
Those that can't adapt perish, we have seen this pattern for a long time. To be able to alter your genetics it to be able to adapt at will.
What makes a human or what makes you human? Would that remain?

In history it has shown there have been times when new life came into being with no precursor.Terry Prachett once proposed in his "Science of the Disc World" if you were going to terraform a planet for more advanced life forms you would do it like it randomly did all by itself here on Earth.
Are we but a stepping stone to the next, everything changes after all.
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it would seem we are being fecundated on a regular basis from passing asteroids, at least the ones that impact, seeing as how they have found micro-organism in space. Possibly some the finds being made are prior impregnations of the planet that have yet to be expressed.

Not to mention Ventner and his bag of tricks. But once again. the long term goals of such manipulations seem to always miss their target, and it would seem to be because of an underlying program the planet and life itself is running which would appear to overriding the desired results of TPTB. ts
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So... TS, did you look at the vid? chuckle
It's all about the 'vibe'
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So... TS, did you look at the vid? chuckle
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Many, which one are you referring to.
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Thank you for your helpful post, RA, which seems to be a reasonable, ancient premonition which fits with what is going on?

<snip>
 Quoting: integrator


This reads like an oral history, not a premonition.

Tales like this, with (what seem to us) 'fanciful' descriptions of "The Destroyer" and the destruction wrought, were a way to preserve information of the event through ages of civilization collapse and reformation. Read it again with your 'scientific mind', realizing this was put to writing possibly thousands of years after the actual event. Can we guess what this Destroyer might have been / be?

Stone is about the only 'written information' medium that will survive a natural, worldwide holocaust like the one described. If you look, there is substantial evidence of 'shorthand' records of this event. Until recently, we just didn't know how to interpret what the pictures represented.

Its return is repeatedly pointed out. To me this indicates they knew of its coming from the traditional tales handed down since its last passing. Like us, they probably discounted the stories as myth and tales to scare children around the campfire... until their science began to find the proof.

Some of these accounts also speak of how the knowledge of its coming affected the existing civilization. This is probably why tptb have kept what they know (or even just suspect) shrouded in disinformation. How many would actually take steps to "live in the marshes as the slaves" (prepers anyone?) and how many would use the knowledge as excuse to act out in utter savagery or sink into useless despair?

I've come to the conclusion that I agree with 'them'... <<Gasp!>>

If there is no protection possible (is that what all the geo-engineering, medical experimentation, etc. is about?) it's likely best to let civilization rock on, happily oblivious and fairly productive. Who knows, anything could have happened in the last 11 to 23 thousand years... maybe its course has shifted a bit and the effects won't be so drastic... or maybe it will hit us this time... IF it is an object at all, rather than planetary response to entering a 'different' energetic area within our cosmic neighborhood.

Not much point in allowing/ creating a worldwide freak out in either case, eh?

My opinion and action is... (to rip off SuspiciousObserver) "Eyes Open, No Fear".
Imho, it's best to focus on practical action.
Remember. Learn to garden, get your feet and hands in the water and soil... Remember. Learn what is edible, what is medicine and how to use them... watch the skies and animals, learn from what you see and develop the storytellers' art... use it (parables of fear, fact and fun) to teach your children and anyone else ready to listen. Remember. We are spirit having a physical experience... set the vibe you want to live by, chose a path with 'heart' and live it to the nth degree! Ultimately, that is All you can carry with you on this journey.

My 2 cents... and worth exactly that. lol
hf
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clappa
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An ongoing subplot of the series is the emotional impact Threshold has on Caffrey herself, as she is required to make life-and-death decisions on an almost daily basis. The impact on other members of her team is also explored.
In one of the unbroadcast episodes, one of the hybrids reveals that the aliens plan to save humankind by changing their DNA and the surface of the earth. This is because millennia ago, far out in space, two neutron stars collided, creating a gamma ray burst - the radiation of which is heading for Earth and will, when it arrives in six years, end all life on the surface of the planet. Because the revelation came from a hybrid, this explanation is considered suspect and that the hybrid's sole intention is to slow the Threshold program. In Episode 11, which was unaired in the US, NASA sends a Top Secret letter to Caffrey confirming the alien allegation about the cosmic radiation impact on Earth in 6 years. The text of that letter is below:
Dear Dr. Molly Anne Cafrey
In reply to your request for information at the following coordinates
Eight hours right as
cension, thirty four degrees south declination
It has been confirmed that approximately 400,000 years ago two neutron stars collided at these coordinates, and the cosmic radiation that resulted from this collision is expected to affect the Earth in approximately 6 years.
Cosmic radiation is a collection of many types of radiation from many different types of sources. When people speak simply of 'cosmic radiation' they are usually referring specifically to the cosmic microwave background radiation. This consists of very, very low energy photons [energy of about 2.75 Kelvin] whose spectrum is peaked in the microwave region and which are remnants from the time when the Universe was only about 200,000 years old. There are also very old remnant neutrinos in the cosmic radiations.
When these particles make it to earth, it will interact with our atmosphere. Our atmosphere is able to reflect small amounts of these particles and act as a 'radiation shield.' The amount of particles that will enter our atmosphere in 6 years as a result of this collision will most likely be more than our atmosphere will be able to protect us from. The Earth will be completely destroyed and all human life will be extinguished.
We thank you for your concern and interest and hope this information has been of help to you.
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Rken, You got it! Not saying this is anything, but at 1:06, you will probably fall off your chair laughing....


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So... TS, did you look at the vid? chuckle
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Many, which one are you referring to.
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That one.
It's all about the 'vibe'
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Thank you for your helpful post, RA, which seems to be a reasonable, ancient premonition which fits with what is going on?

<snip>
 Quoting: integrator


This reads like an oral history, not a premonition.

Tales like this, with (what seem to us) 'fanciful' descriptions of "The Destroyer" and the destruction wrought, were a way to preserve information of the event through ages of civilization collapse and reformation. Read it again with your 'scientific mind', realizing this was put to writing possibly thousands of years after the actual event. Can we guess what this Destroyer might have been / be?


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Yip good advice, after that use that scientific mind on the bible version in exodus.

The ten plagues were a just a prelude to its coming......waters turning red etc.....

THE DARK DAYS


The dark days began with the last visitation of the Destroyer and they were foretold by strange omens in the skies. All men were silent and went about with pale faces.

The leaders of the slaves which had built a city to the glory of Thom stirred up unrest, and no man raised his arm against them. They foretold great events of which the people were ignorant and of which the temple seers were not informed.

These were days of ominous calm, when the people waited for they knew not what. The presence of an unseen doom was felt, the hearts of men were stricken. Laughter was heard no more and grief and wailing sounded throughout the land. Even the voices of children were stilled and they did not play together, but stood silent.

The slaves became bold and insolent and women were the possession of any man. Fear walked the land and women became barren with terror, they could not conceive, and those with child aborted. All men closed up within themselves.

The days of stillness were followed by a time when the noise of trumpeting and shrilling was heard in the Heavens, and the people became as frightened beasts without a herdsman, as asses when lions prowl without their fold.

The people spoke of the god of the slaves, and reckless men said. "If we knew where this god were to be found, we would sacrifice to him". But the god of the slaves was not among them. He was not to be found within the swamplands or in the brickpits. His manifestation was in the Heavens for all men to see, but they did not see with understanding. Nor would any god listen, for all were dumb because of the hypocrisy of men.

The dead were no longer sacred and were thrown into the waters. Those already entombed were neglected and many became exposed. They lay unprotected against the hands of thieves. He who once toiled long in the sun, bearing the yoke himself, now possessed oxen. He who grew no grain now owned a storehouse full. He who once dwelt at ease among his children now thirsted for water. He who once sat in the sun with crumbs and dregs was now bloated with food, he reclined in the shade, his bowls overflowing.

Cattle were left unattended to roam into strange pastures, and men ignored their marks and slew the beasts of their neighbours. No man owned anything.

The public records were cast forth and destroyed, and no man knew who were slaves and who were masters. The people cried out to the Pharaoh in their distress, but he stopped his ears and acted like a deaf man.

There were those who spoke falsely before Pharaoh and had gods hostile towards the land, therefore the people cried out for their blood to appease it. But it was not these strange priests who put strife in the land instead of peace, for one was even of the household of Pharaoh and walked among the people unhampered.

Dust and smoke clouds darkened the sky and coloured the waters upon which they fell with a bloody hue. Plague was throughout the land, the river was bloody and blood was everywhere. The water was vile and men's stomachs shrank from drinking. Those who did drink from the river vomited it up, for it was polluted.

The dust tore wounds in the skin of man and beast. In the glow of the Destroyer the Earth was filled with redness. Vermin bred and filled the air and face of the Earth with loathsomeness. Wild beascs, afflicted with torments under the lashing sand and ashes, came out of their lairs in the wastelands and caveplaces and stalked the abodes of men. All the tame beasts whimpered and the land was filled with the cries of sheep and moans of cattle.

Trees, throughout the land, were destroyed and no herb or fruit was to be found. The face of the land was battered and devastated by a hail of stones which smashed down all that stood in the path of the torrent. They swept down in hot showers, and strange flowing fire ran along the ground in their wake.

The fish of the river died in the polluted waters; worms, insects and reptiles sprang up from the Earth in huge numbers. Great gusts of wind brought swarms of locusts which covered the sky. As the Destroyer flung itself through the Heavens, it blew great gusts of cinders across the face of the land. The gloom of a long night spread a dark mantle of blackness which extinguished every ray of light. None knew when it was day and when it was night, for the sun cast no shadow.

The darkness was not the clean blackness of night, but a thick darkness in which the breath of men was stopped in their throats. Men gasped in a hot cloud of vapour which enveloped all the land and snuffed out all lamps and fires. Men were benumbed and lay moaning in their beds. None spoke to another or took food, for they were overwhelmed with despair. Ships were sucked away from their moorings and destroyed in great whirlpools. It was a time of undoing.

The Earth turned over, as clay spun upon a potter's wheel. The whole land was filled with uproar from the thunder of the Destroyer overhead and the cry of the people. There as the sound of moaning and lamentation on every side. The Earth spewed up its dead, corpses were cast up out of their resting places and the embalmed were revealed to the sight of all men. Pregnant women miscarried and the seed of men was stopped.

The craftsman left his task undone, the potter abandoned his wheel and the carpenter his tools, and they departed to dwell in the marshes. All crafts were neglected and the slaves lured the craftsmen away.

The dues of Pharaoh could not be collected, for there was neither wheat nor barley, goose nor fish. The rights of Pharaoh could not be enforced, for the fields of grain and the pastures were destroyed. The highborn and the lowly prayed together that life might come to an end and the turmoil and thundering cease to beat upon their ears. Terror was the companion of men by day and horror their companion by night. Men lost their senses and became mad, they were distracted by frightfulness.

On the great night of the Destroyer's wrath, when its terror was at its height, there was a hail of rocks and the Earth heaved as pain rent her bowels. Gates, columns and walls were consumed by fire and the statues of gods were overthrown and broken. People fled outside their dwellings in fear and were slain by the hail. Those who took shelter from the hail were swallowed when the Earth split open.

The habitations of men collapsed upon those inside and there was panic on every hand, but the slaves who lived in huts in the reedlands, at the place of pits, were spared. The land burnt like tinder, a man watched upon his rooftops and the Heavens hurled wrath upon him and he died.

The land writhed under the wrath of the Destroyer and groaned with the agony of Egypt. It shook itself and the temples and palaces of the nobles were thrown down from their foundations. The highborn ones perished in the midst of the ruins and all the strength of the land was stricken. Even the great one, the first born of Pharaoh, died with the highborn in the midst of the terror and falling stones. The children of princes were cast out into the streets and those who were not cast out died within their abodes.

There were nine days of darkness and upheaval, while a tempest raged such as never had been known before. When it passed away brother buried brother throughout the land. Men rose up against those in authority and fled from the cities to dwell in tents in the outlands.

Egypt lacked great men to deal with the times. The people were weak from fear and bestowed gold, silver, lapis lazuli, turquoise and copper upon the slaves, and to their priests they gave chalices, urns and ornaments. Pharaoh alone remained calm and strong in the midst of confusion. The people turned to wickedness in their weakness and despair. Harlots walked through the streets unashamed. Women paraded their limbs and flaunted their womanly charms. Highborn women were in rags and the virtuous were mocked.

The slaves spared by the Destroyer left the accursed land forthwith. Their multitude moved in the gloom of a half dawn, under a mantle of fine swirling grey ash, leaving the burnt fields and shattered cities behind them. Many Egyptians attached themselves to the host, for one who was great led them forth, a priest prince of the inner courtyard.

Fire mounted up on high and its burning left with the enemies of Egypt. It rose up from the ground as a fountain and hung as a curtain in the sky.
In seven days, by Remwar the accursed ones journeyed to the waters. They crossed the heaving wilderness while the hills melted around them; above, the skies were torn with lightning. They were sped by terror, but their feet became entangled in the land and the wilderness shut them in. They knew not the way, for no sign was constant before them.

They turned before Noshari and stopped at Shokoth, the place of quarries. They passed the waters of Maha and came by the valley of Pikaroth, northward of Mara. They came up against the waters which blocked their way and their hearts were in despair. The night was a night of fear and dread, for there was a high moaning above and black winds from the underworld were loosed, and fire sprang up from the ground. The hearts of the slaves shrank within them, for they knew the wrath of Pharaoh followed them and that there was no way of escape. They hurled abuse on those who led them, strange rites were performed along the shore that night. The slaves disputed among themselves and there was violence.

Pharaoh had gathered his army and followed the slaves. After he departed there were riots and disorders behind him, for the cities were plundered. The laws were cast out of the judgement halls and trampled underfoot in the streets. The storehouses and granaries were burst open and robbed. Roads were flooded and none could pass along them. People lay dead on every side. The palace was split and the princes and officials fled, so that none was left with authority to command. The lists of numbers were destroyed, public places were overthrown and households became confused and unknown.

Pharaoh pressed on in sorrow, for behind him all was desolation and death. Before him were things he could not understand and he was afraid, but he carried himself well and stood before his host with courage. He sought to bring back the slaves, for the people said their magic was greater than the magic of Egypt.

The host of Pharaoh came upon the slaves by the saltwater shores, but was held back from them by a breath of fire. A great cloud was spread over the hosts and darkened the sky. None could see, except for the fiery glow and the unceasing lightnings which rent the covering cloud overhead.

A whirlwind arose in the East and swept over the encamped hosts. A gale raged all night and in the red twilit dawn there was a movement of the Earth, the waters receded from the seashore and were rolled back on themselves. There was a strange silence and men, in the gloom, it was seen that the waters had parted, leaving a passage between. The land had risen, but it was disturbed and trembled, the way was not straight or clear. The waters about were as if spun within a bowl, the swampland alone remained undisturbed. From the horn of the Destroyer came a high shrilling noise which stopped the ears of men.

The slaves had been making sacrifices in despair, their lamentations were loud. Now, before the strange sight, there was hesitation and doubt; for the space of a breath they stood still and silent. Then all was confusion and shouting, some pressing forward into the waters against all who sought to flee back from the unstable ground. Then, in exaltation, their leader led them into the midst of the waters through the confusion. Yet many sought to turn back into the host behind them, while others fled along the empty shores.

All became still over the sea and upon the shore, but behind, the Earth shook and boulders split with a great noise. The wrath of Heaven was removed to a distance and stood upwards of the two hosts.

Still the host of Pharaoh held its ranks, firm in resolve before the strange and awful happenings, and undaunted by the fury which raged by their side. Stern faces were lit darkly by the fiery curtain.

Then the fury departed and there was silence, stillness spread over the land while the host of Pharaoh stood without movement in the red glow. Then, with a shout, the captains went forward and the host rose up behind them. The curtain of fire had rolled up into a dark billowing cloud which spread out as a canopy. There was a stirring of the waters, but they followed the evildoers past the place of the great whirlpool. The passage was confused in the midst of the waters and the ground beneath unstable. Here, in the midst of a tumult of waters, Pharaoh fought against the hindmost of the slaves and prevailed over them, and there was a great slaughter amid the sand, the swamp and the water. The slaves cried out in despair, but their cries were unheeded.

Their possessions were scattered behind them as they fled, so that the way was easier for them than for those who followed.

Then the stillness was broken by a mighty roar and through the rolling pillars of cloud the wrath of the Destroyer descended upon the hosts. The Heavens roared as with a thousand thunders, the bowels of the Earth were sundered and Earth shrieked its agony. The cliffs were torn away and cast down. The dry ground fell beneath the waters and great waves broke upon the shore, sweeping in rocks from seaward.

The great surge of rocks and waters overwhelmed the chariots of the Egyptians who went before the footmen. The chariot of the Pharaoh was hurled into the air as if by a mighty hand and was crushed in the midst of the rolling waters.

Tidings of the disaster came back by Rageb, son of Thomat, who hastened on ahead of the terrified survivors because of his burning. He brought reports unto the people that the host had been destroyed by blast and deluge. The captains had gone, the strong men hadfallen and none remained to command. Therefore, the people revolted because of the calamities which had befallen them. Cowards slunk from their lairs and came forth boldly to assume the high offices of the dead. Comely and noble women, their protectors gone, were their prey. Of the slaves the greater number had perished before the host of Pharaoh.

The broken land lay helpless and invaders came out of the gloom like carrion. A strange people came up against Egypt and none stood to fight, for strength and courage were gone.

The invaders, led by Alkenan, came up out of the Land of Gods, because of the wrath of Heaven which had laid their land waste. There, too, had been a plague of reptiles and ants, signs and omens and an earthquake. There, also, had been turmoil and disaster, disorder and famine, with the grey breath of the Destroyer sweeping the ground and stopping the breath of men.

Anturah gathered together the remnants of his fighting men and the fighting men who were left in Egypt, and set forth to meet the Children of Darkness who came out of the eastern mountains by way of the wilderness and by way of Yethnobis. They fell upon the stricken land from behind the grey cloud, before the lifting of the darkness and before the coming of the purifying winds.

Rageb went with Pharaoh and met the invaders at Herosher, but the hearts of the Egyptians were faint within them. Their spirits were no longer strong and they fell away before the battle was lost. Deserted by the gods above and below, their dwellings destroyed, their households scattered, they were as men already half dead. Their hearts were still filled with terror and with the memory of the wrath which had struck them from out of Heaven. They were still filled with the memory of the fearsome sight of the Destroyer and they knew not what they did.

Pharaoh did not return to his city. He lost his heritage and was seized by a demon for many days. His women were polluted and his estates plundered. The Children of Darkness defiled the temples with rams and ravished women who were crazed and did not resist. They enslaved all who were left, the old, young men and boys. They oppressed the people and their delight was in mutilation and torture.

Pharaoh abandoned his hopes and fled into the wilderness beyond the province of the lake, which is in the West towards the South. He lived a goodly life among the sand wanderers and wrote books.

Good times came again, even under the invaders, and ships sailed upstream. The air was purified, the breath of the Destroyer passed away and the land became filled again with growing things. Life was renewed throughout the whole land.

Kair taught these things to the Children of Light in the days of darkness, after the building of the Rambudeth, before the death of the Pharaoh Anked.

This is written in this land and in our tongue by Leweddar who, himself, chose it for saving. It was not seen until the latter days

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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TIAMAT!

Thank you again RA for another enlightening post, which greatly helps BEZERKERS fill in the many missing pieces of this giant, Cosnmic Jigsaw.

Highlighting just one of the references given, immediately fingerposts TIAMAT, where KRISPY

remarkably, has had first hand experience she has already told us BEZERKERS all about how it seeded us!

Based on The Kolbrin Bible’s ‘Book of Creation,’ RA refers us to for details, it’s apparent that a wandering planet struck the original Earth with a glancing blow.

This wandering planet, which the ancient Sumerians called Nibiru, initially came through our solar system between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars where the ‘first’ Earth once orbited.

This was an ocean planet known to the Sumerians as the god Tiamat.
The celestial event broke Tiamat apart (and Broke Her Heart?) ~ KRISPY? hf

turning some of the pieces into the asteroid belt.

However, a small portion of Tiamat remained intact and was hurled inward toward the sun, settling into a closer orbit.

The unstable planetary mass of rock and water reestablished itself into a smaller ocean planet, becoming present day Earth.

Besides The Kolbrin Bible and Sumerian tradition, what additional information is available hinting that a planet once existed in the region of the asteroid belt?

‘A Former Major Planet of the Solar System’
by Van Flandern, T.C.

EOS, 57:280, 1976

“Abstract.

Recent dynamical calculations by M. W. Ovenden have demonstrated the former existence of a 90-Earth-mass planet in the asteroid belt… ”

(Source: ‘Mysterious Universe A Handbook of Astronomical Anomalies’ by William R. Corliss 1979.)

Time Brings Forth The Hidden TRUTH.

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TIAMAT!

Thank you again RA for another enlightening post, which greatly helps BEZERKERS fill in the many missing pieces of this giant, Cosnmic Jigsaw.

Highlighting just one of the references given, immediately fingerposts TIAMAT, where KRISPY

remarkably, has had first hand experience she has already told us BEZERKERS all about how it seeded us!

Based on The Kolbrin Bible’s ‘Book of Creation,’ RA refers us to for details, it’s apparent that a wandering planet struck the original Earth with a glancing blow.

This wandering planet, which the ancient Sumerians called Nibiru, initially came through our solar system between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars where the ‘first’ Earth once orbited.

This was an ocean planet known to the Sumerians as the god Tiamat.
The celestial event broke Tiamat apart (and Broke Her Heart?) ~ KRISPY? hf

turning some of the pieces into the asteroid belt.

However, a small portion of Tiamat remained intact and was hurled inward toward the sun, settling into a closer orbit.

The unstable planetary mass of rock and water reestablished itself into a smaller ocean planet, becoming present day Earth.

Besides The Kolbrin Bible and Sumerian tradition, what additional information is available hinting that a planet once existed in the region of the asteroid belt?

‘A Former Major Planet of the Solar System’
by Van Flandern, T.C.

EOS, 57:280, 1976

“Abstract.

Recent dynamical calculations by M. W. Ovenden have demonstrated the former existence of a 90-Earth-mass planet in the asteroid belt… ”

(Source: ‘Mysterious Universe A Handbook of Astronomical Anomalies’ by William R. Corliss 1979.)

Time Brings Forth The Hidden TRUTH.

 Quoting: integrator



Thank you PPPI :)

As for all things descending from the Anunaki, who were the Gods/founding Fathers of the Sumerian's, they have a tradition to "MALE" many things which original were FEMALE.

One example is the Women/Goddes-cultus [in respect and honor to Gaya/Mother earth] was casted down as witchcraft ...
A very important thing coming from this Goddes-cultus was that the QUEEN had all right and power, SHE was the one to pass the BLOOD and GENES, and a "chosen male" was GRANTED to copulate with her, to bring new genes to the genetic tree.
This aspect had relevance and was a pointer to PARTHENOGENESIS, the way it HAPPENED from the Beginning. And thats why FEMALE GENETIC LINES are older then the MALE GENETIC LINES.

In later times all was rewritten and hidden by those [male Elites, descendants of Anu and his sons Enki & Enlil] who took over [ruling] Earth, ...
In their ego and greed for triumph & glory, they rewrote everything as much as possible to the MALE aspect.
Male Rulers/Kings, a male UPPER HEAVENLY GOD, male messiahs, male Popes/Cardinals/etc, male druids and wizards, even male demons ...
They deliberately changed TIAMAT into a demonic male dragon, coz it is more heroic to make it seem as if a male dragon demon was slayed, then a female species who brings life.
The bible story that Archangel Michael slayed the demon Tiamat is [imo] utter bull-poop !

Imo Tiamath (Amaru) is not dead, and cant be killed ...
the Mother of All Life [essence] lives in ALL of us ...
you cant CAST IT out of LIFE,
just as you cant cast water out of LIFE ...
Imo what we call AUgie is the closest thing related to Tiamath, it is part of her "primordial" Essence !


As for the same reasons as above [that the Anunaki's changed all "facts" to their own favourable position] so tells my guts and intuition (and some other story's on the web) that what we have been told about the planet Tiamat, Mars and the planet that is now the Hammered Belt ... is deformed and not according real happenings.
I posted my thoughts about that before some time(s) ago.

Mars contains (an) AUgie too, and so the Hammered Belt-planet [imo former planet Marduk].
They formed the UNITY OF 3 within the GOLDy-lock-zone. Marduk was destroyed, Mars pushed outside and Earth was left in it but at a different possition as before this EVENT.
(I never have and never will agree that the Moon is a split-off from Earth!)

I do believe that the Icy Moons like Europa and Io contain AUgie too, but they are not in the Goldy-lock-zone thus Life will be "different" ...
Maybe it should be re-defined as GOLD-LOCK-TONE , as we know that the TONE sets FORM and templates ... a specific TONE in this Goldy-lock-zone,
and a different Tone thus "formations of life" outside this "green-zone" ... Our solarsystem and Universe if full of life, yet denied by science or undiscovered.


This snip of text exactly sais it clearly !!!


Before the world as we know it was created, said the Babylonians, there was only Tiamat, the dragon goddess of salt waters and Her consort Apsu, god of the fresh sweet water. Both represent the idea of chaos that precedes form and order, which are the foundation of upon which civilization rests. Tiamat and Apsu are the parents of all the Great Gods and Goddesses of Babylon, who came forth from Tiamat´s almighty womb. No pictures are known of Her, but She is normally said to be a fierce Dragoness in form, or the personification of the Untame, Primeval Forces of the Universe before established order.
 Quoting: Babylonian text


What is said above is there was a body/planet with salt waters (Tiamath) and Fresh waters (from the Sun as science recently told us). (** In other texts it is said that Tiamath came from Space into this part of the Galaxy, to certain planets.**)
Form and Order are defined by tone, without TONE there is Chaos. "Chaos" is a term that defines everything outside our reference box ...lol... so imo that also means that on heavenly bodies like Europa and Io, in the eyes of science, until recently there couldnt be life ... we know have evidence that "at least microbiological life" is possible.
SURE IT IS for whole our solarsystem is TONE, whole the Universe is TONE, there is NO space in the absence of any kind of tone or vibration or wave or frequency !!!
Just as to our eyes only a small part of the SPECTRUM is visable, so is only a small part of the solarsystem resonating in an specific tone that defines visable formations of a specific kind.

The text above clearly states that TIAMATH is FEMALE !!!
The reference to DRAGON has imo to do with the "firery aspect" ... the SPARK [as in fire] of Life, the ACIDITY of the GLAND from which a mythological dragon makes its fire-breath from ... [**like pineal gland?**]
Like BHD and I suggested is that AUgie in pure form and contact could be acid too ... but we are not meant to hold acid in our hands.
Also even science agrees that Earth in her primordial days was much more ACID and hostile [liquids and gasses, etc] and that in such an environment RNA was the main driver of Lifeforms [like in extremophiles], only later when things calmed down DNA took over.
From CHAOS to ORDER ...

There are NO PICTURES of TIAMATH, becoz she is the Mother of all life, she forms according to intent & tone ... she is the undefined fluid a "primeval Force" that turns/morphs into Lifeforms = "established order" ...


So far for now ;)



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Much like the Boxer Day Tsunami in 2004. But don't be mislead. If that tsunami was intentional, and there are indications this is true, it was not the US that did it. I suggest that because a major US and UK military base was destroyed at Diego Garcia by that tsunami. Never mind looking for a link. There is none.

As bad as the US appears to be with its aggression and war on other people, there are other countries/factions out there who are just as bad, or worse. The US and Japan are allies, so take the pointing finger and do a 180.
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Hey AC 794,

I agree with you.
It was not my intention to make it look as if the US is the only badass in the game ... It sure is not !

Japan used to be an ally of the US thats true,
but in BEZERK respect that changed on Oct 13th 2011 ...
When Japan supposedly received an other briefcase [and content] then the other countries who received one ... Japan was instructed [so it was told] to open THEIR briefcase 2 days later and NOT on the 13th.
It is believed that this formed an ally of Japan and China. Not long after that it was reported in the media that Japan ordered all US and other military to leave a certain area and it was said by our OP that Japan not longer provided "safe harbour" to the ODESSA-allies.
After THAT it was said [warning or threat] that A BLACK RING around Japan ... A few weeks after the deadline for the Odessa-allies to leave Japan, it was attacked by that tsunami ....

I do think that many parties of the world-game poses tech that could do harm to the other in many various ways ... and it is used over and again. All are guilty.


But there is 1 kind of tech that BHD often talked about that seems to be solely used and "discovered" by the Chin,
the reverse-EMP tech ....
I agree with what he said that it is not an act of agression to suck away the power ..lol... it does not KILL, it only holds them and prevents them [the other party] to proceed in their war-game ...lol...


XXX MzK
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Regardless of any "briefcase" stories, I do not believe that Japan and China are allies. There is too much ancient, antagonistic history between these two countries. Let us not be fooled.
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I am verry sorry to be a beetroot here,
but you have to look FURTHER BACK then you did.
Imo Japan and China have the same ROOTS !
Maybe they ate a lot of (red) beetroots coz their melanin level is very high ...lol..


During the last Ice Age, which ended approximately 15,000 years ago, Japan was connected to the continent through several land bridges, notably one linking the Ryukyu Islands to Taiwan and Kyushu, one linking Kyushu to the Korean peninsula, and another one connecting Hokkaido to Sakhalin and the Siberian mainland. In fact, the Philippines and Indonesia were also connected to the Asian mainland. This allowed migrations from China and Austronesia towards Japan, about 35,000 years ago. These were the ancestors of the modern Ryukyuans (Okinawans), and the first inhabitants of all Japan.

... the modern Japanese descend mostly from the interbreeding of the Jomon Era people (15,000-500 BCE), composed of the above Ice Age settlers, and a later arrival from China and/or Korea.
 Quoting: historical facts



That ^^ makes it more likely that a bond or LINEAGE between the 2 will be restored.
Specially when they find common grounds [again] and re-unite in that common goal.

It was scientifically proven by even JAPANESE SCIENTISTS at the NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF GENETIC STUDIES in 1999 that 24% of the Japanese population has uniquely Korean DNA (genetic sequence), and 25% Chinese DNA, with the two making up the largest proportions. (However, this only explains the contemporary Japanese. That's why most international scholars conclude that at least until 1,500 years ago Japanese were over 90% Koreans for many geographical and historical reasons as explained below.)

Both Koreans and Chinese have over 40% unique genetic sequences. However, there is no "Japanese DNA" whatsoever. Only 4% of the Japanese genetic sequence is unique (but unidentifiable), and it is still by far lower than that of Okinawans (16%) and Ainus (8%), who were never even considered "mainstream" Japanese. (For example, Okinawa became Japanese territory only in the late 19th century.)
 Quoting: Genetics



Paternal lineages (Y-DNA)
54% of Japanese men belong to haplogroup O, and more precisely to the subgroups O3 and O2b. Both of them could be of Han Chinese or Korean origin.
A negligible percentage of the Japanese are O1 or O2a, two lineages that trace their roots among southern Chinese or south-east Asian people.

[...]

Genome-wide SNP genotypes of the Japanese show that people from northern Japan (Tohoku and Hokkaido) are the most distantly related to the Han Chinese, while those from Western Japan (Kyushu, goku, Kinki) are the closest. This confirms the theory of the continental Yayoi invasion from Kyushu.

Okinawan people were shown to be a clearly distinct ethnic group, falling in a separate genetic cluster from other Japanese.
 Quoting: paternal & mitochondrial



Waiiiiiiit a minute !!
HAN CHINESE !!!!
Remember where THAT comes to play ???
...lol...


[qoute: Han Facts]
In 206 B.C., the Qin Dynasty was overthrown due to its tyrannical rule mostly for the large expenses required for building the Wall. In 202 B.C., after several years' civil war, it was finally replaced by a new feudal dynasty – the Han Dynasty. Historians call the period from 202 B.C. to A.D. 8. Earlier Han, and Later Han from A.D. 25 to A.D. 220. Between the two periods was a transient ruling time of Wang Mang and Liu Xuan. Han Dynasty lasted over 400 years and is regarded as the first golden time in Chinese history.
[...]
The three walls combined as one, celebrated as the Hexi-Region Wall of Han Dynasty, which linked up to a fair part of the Qin-Dynasty Wall, forming a new wall that ran up to 10,000 kilometers, the longest wall in Chinese history that traversed present six provinces, i.e. Liaoning, Inner Mongolia, Hebei, Ningxia, Gansu and Xinjiang. The east end of the Wall extended to as far as the north part of Korea. Containing a large part of the Wall of the Qin Dynasty, the 10,000-kilometer Wall is also referred to as the Qin-Han Great Wall.
 Quoting: Krispy71


HAN & The Great Chinese Wall !!!

That has definitely relation to BEZERK AN the BRIEFCASE-event !!!!!
(For it was said that The Wall was activated when briefcases were opened) ...


The King of Na gold seal is a solid gold seal discovered in the year 1784 on Shikanoshima Island in Fukuoka Prefecture, Japan. The seal is designated as a National Treasure of Japan.[1] The seal is believed to have been cast in China and bestowed by a Chinese emperor to a diplomatic official (envoy) visiting from Japan in the year 57 CE. The five Chinese characters appearing on the seal identify it as the seal of the King of the Na state of the Wa (Japan) vassal of the Han Dynasty.[2] The seal is currently in the collection of the Fukuoka City Museum in Fukuoka, Japan.

The meanings of these characters (in the context of this seal) are: "Han" (referring to the Han Dynasty of China), "Wa" (an ancient name for Japan), "Na" (an ancient kingdom - state within Japan), "state - country", and "ruler". The last two characters, when combined, mean "king - sovereign". Altogether, the meaning of the seal inscription is: "(seal of) the King of the Na state of the Wa vassal of the Han Dynasty".
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No AC lets not be fooled by media-things that can be twisted and turned ..
BUT DNA DOES NOT LIE ...lol...


Thank you for making me make this post and do this research again,
it brought up some old familiar bezerk-related issues.
Thanx !!!!
hf




xxxMzBeetroot


Krisps:

You help make my point that we cannot be certain that Japan and China are allies.

True that "DNA DOES NOT LIE."

Remember Cain and Abel.

I am poster 794 in the quote.
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Hi BHD,

is that a Railroad Crossing in your background?
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Nope. It's a signal - but only one person has answered... [think Fox]

Their message is a confusing one?? Maybe South African minds work differently?



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Sorry...lol... hf


It was said in old texts that Tiamath was SPLIT IN TWO,
and that the Hammered Belt is refered to as "heavens" (in Genesis). The Akkadian texts also called this celestial zone "the hammered bracelet" (rakkis), and describe how Tiamat’s lower part was stretched out until brought end to end, fastened into a permanent great circle. [*the goldy-lock-zone]
The Sumerian sources leave not doubt that the specific "heaven," as distinct from the general concept of heavens and space, was the asteroid belt.

Thus, when it is said that Tiamath was split in 2,
it does not SAY that A PLANET was split in 2 (and as we have been thought/lied about that the moon is her splitting partial.) In many texts it is said that Tiamath was GIVEN A SATELITE ! GIVEN !! = later added ...

If we look at TIAMATH as The Mother Of Creation, The WOMB of creation ... Like in the FLUID that we call AUgie and that is the purest form which can be defined by INTENT (and Intent is the purest vibration & TONE).

Lets now assume that Tiamath/AUgie was and is present IN many planets/body's in this solarsystem,
and in the far past "something" happened that Slit Tiamath in two... It is said that it was Marduck -interpreted as a Lord or God or Alien- that did this and created the Hammered Bracelet ... I said that "a planet" called Marduck was destroyed and became the Hammered Bracelet ...
The break-up of this planet made A SPLIT between the "harmonics" of all these planets,
since every planet has a frequency and a tone (defining Life) the destruction of Marduck created a bracelet/band (bandwidth!) a disharmony-zone that literally split Tiamath's LOWER PART [Mars, Earth, Venus, Mercury] from her upper part [Jupiter and Saturn's moons, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto].
In this event many planets adjusted to this new situation and some shifted/altered position [like Mars that fell out of the Goldy-lock-zone ... kind of logic coz the Hammered Belt has less push-pull and magnetic presence [gravitational field] then the former planet had, thus Mars was sucked out of position and Earth also slightly.

>> This is also described in texts : " After the cloud waters are gathered, the oceans began to form, and the "foundations’ of Earth were raised. As the making of cold took place, rain and mist appeared."

If a planet [like mercury] was still to close in position to the Sun then the sweet water [that we know know is delivered by waves from the Sun] is vaporised and has no real hold. At the 'right position' where the cold/colder can take place and the acidity lowers/balances and the environment becomes less hostile [acid] so that RNA can shift the lead to DNA when a stable atmosphere emerged.
The "foundations of Earth" are the TEMPLATES of TONE which RAISE(D) [=frequency] and could form LIFE as happend like genetics show it, from LUCA till modern life.

So it was becoz Marduck was/got destroyed that Earth got a different definition, a different defining of Life ... Its position changed and the frequency changed.

Then the texts go on to say that 'after Earth changed position, Marduck/Hammered belt made the moon appear.
"As part of the new celestial order upon Earth, Marduk "made the divine Moon appear"
Thus : Most probably [IF it is NOT a hollow cloaked Alien space-station] it is a former moon/satellite of the former planet Marduck, which just like Mars is very similar to Earth in make-up ... it was the Trinity ... in material composition, and all 3 in the Gold-locked-zone ...
The old texts say that original the moon 'Kingu' had an independent orbit and was a planetary member of our solar system. Marduck's destruction into the Belt/Bracelet punished Kingu/the moon by taking away its independent orbit, this resulted in a shrinking to a smaller size, but Kingu remained a "god" = a planetary member of our solar system. As Tiamat’s 'upper part' [= all planets above/after the hammered Bracelet] was thrown into a new orbit, Kingu was pulled along.
Transformed in to a terrestrial duggae, Kingu had been stripped of his "vital’ elements –atmosphere, waters, radioactive matter- he shrank in size and became "a mass of lifeless clay." These Sumerian terms fittingly describe our lifeless Moon, its recently discovered history, and the fate that befell this body that started out as KIN.GU ("great emissary") and ended up as DUG.GA.E ("pot of lead").


---> FUNNY how THE SHRINKING OF THE MOON as mentioned by OP/Aco and 'the me-tell-u team' now gets a different and better understandable explanation.

Funny how celestial body's can "grow" when in independent orbit [= thanx to own gravitational field], and "shrink" when pulled into a gravitational field of a bigger body ...
This explains more things : we believe Earth is expanding, growing bigger, thus her gravitational field changes becoz of that, THUS does it seems as if the moon is shrinking, while IT is not but Earth gets bigger and pushes the moon [who stays in size] further away ...


xxxMzK
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Krisps:

You help make my point that we cannot be certain that Japan and China are allies.

True that "DNA DOES NOT LIE."

Remember Cain and Abel.

I am poster 794 in the quote.
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Hey AC 794 ... lol...
To me the post showed me that Japan has a certain stream of Chinese blood [genes] that flowed to that area, as it has Korean and genes from the South coming up ... There is a big part of "Chinese genes" in a land that was called Japan.
They have so much common things if you look back to the annnnnnncient roooooots, lateron they changed I agree.

And yes The melting pot of genes that is Japan at one point forgot its roots [beetroots?] and saw itself as a unique identity and went into fight with its 'seeders' .. like a child battling his parents, denying the parents for what they are.

Sometimes in a wood you see a bunch of trees from which you think that they are individuals with own characteristics ... but when you look deeeeep beneath the soil, you discover that they sprout from only 1 root ... but the soil around them defines who they think they are [different] ...
Roots do not lie.
A certain chunk of Japs have Chin roots.

hf xxxMzK
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But, culturally, they split, when an extra terrestrial washed up on their shores, and taught them the disclipline of the mind through ritual, disciplined actions, looking within, and connecting with the natural world around them. Including many rituals that centered around water.

Modern Japan seems to have lost those noble attributes, but inyterestingly, the heads of the zaibatsu families, and other notables (remember the list posted here) still practice these old ways.

At least they still have the tea ceremony, which is a throw back to that time.

They were arguably the purest people through discipline of the mind at one point.

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Because Sushi

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sushi? uhhh. I like cheeseburgers.
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just decided i should post in this epic bread
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Obviously a rand employee who wasnt in on the op', and just wants to be part of the most epic, amazing, out of control, run away freight train ever...

[10 years later] "Yeah I was in on that op'".

Welcome mate. hf Just joshin with ya.

Nice to have another Aussie about.





EDIT, whoops!! worship

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Oops, I'm having a rest from posting... forgot. 1doh1

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Oops, I'm having a rest from posting... forgot. 1doh1

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its ok.
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Hmmm, now where have I seen that symbol before. It does give one pause. Thanks for the moment BHD

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