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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Sorry, I'm out. It's a hot potato. But I wish you luck finding out. Maybe other posters outside of the US will have more luck?
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Guessing you are right. I was typing an explanatory response that got blinked/deleted.
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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
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I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
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Whoa!
Finally catching up on the reading.
Some kicka** posts in the last few days!

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[ties a piece of string around finger. ** revisit last few posts shortly**]
It's all about the 'vibe'
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But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
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Maybe the toll booth operators...
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An Exxon-Mobil oil pipeline ruptured Friday afternoon in the town of Mayflower, Arkansas, forcing the evacuation of 20 homes and shutting down sections of interstate highway. According to Little Rock’s KATV, a hazardous materials team from the Office of Emergency Management has contained the spill and is currently attempting a cleanup.

The burst pipe is part of the Pegasus pipeline network, which connects tar sands along the Gulf coast to refineries in Houston. Thousands of gallons of crude oil erupted from the breach around 3:00 p.m. on Friday, spilling through a housing subdivision and into the town’s storm drainage system, fouling drainage ditches and shutting down Highway 365 and Interstate 40.

Residents were evacuated to avoid health hazards from crude oil fumes and to keep stray sparks from igniting the standing oil. Emergency workers contained the spill by hastily constructing earthen dams.

Exxon-Mobil reportedly has a crew investigating the accident. The company released a statement Friday that read, in part, “We are working with emergency responders and local authorities to respond to the incident and are establishing an information line for community support. We regret that this incident has occurred and we apologize for any disruption or inconvenience this has caused.”

The Arkansas Oil and Gas Commission told Channel 7 News that, as an interstate pipeline, Pegasus has no local control, oversight or inspection. Only federal officials from the Pipeline and Hazard Material Safety Administration are authorized to inspect and maintain the pipeline.

[link to www.rawstory.com]


You guys in the states hearing much about this?

The federally controlling body that would ultimately look in to this is the Rockefeller owned Texas Railway Commission, who also regulate and own Texas Brine, who also own....

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An Exxon-Mobil oil pipeline ruptured Friday afternoon in the town of Mayflower, Arkansas, forcing the evacuation of 20 homes and shutting down sections of interstate highway. According to Little Rock’s KATV, a hazardous materials team from the Office of Emergency Management has contained the spill and is currently attempting a cleanup.

The burst pipe is part of the Pegasus pipeline network, which connects tar sands along the Gulf coast to refineries in Houston. Thousands of gallons of crude oil erupted from the breach around 3:00 p.m. on Friday, spilling through a housing subdivision and into the town’s storm drainage system, fouling drainage ditches and shutting down Highway 365 and Interstate 40.

Residents were evacuated to avoid health hazards from crude oil fumes and to keep stray sparks from igniting the standing oil. Emergency workers contained the spill by hastily constructing earthen dams.

Exxon-Mobil reportedly has a crew investigating the accident. The company released a statement Friday that read, in part, “We are working with emergency responders and local authorities to respond to the incident and are establishing an information line for community support. We regret that this incident has occurred and we apologize for any disruption or inconvenience this has caused.”

The Arkansas Oil and Gas Commission told Channel 7 News that, as an interstate pipeline, Pegasus has no local control, oversight or inspection. Only federal officials from the Pipeline and Hazard Material Safety Administration are authorized to inspect and maintain the pipeline.

[link to www.rawstory.com]


You guys in the states hearing much about this?

The federally controlling body that would ultimately look in to this is the Rothchild owned Texas Railway Commission, who also regulate and own Texas Brine, who also own....
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Yes yes yes ... thanx to your previous research work we are now aware that it is linked like that, and that puts a nice and better perspective on it all ! hf
Proud of you BHD :D

This is really important news !
Specially that the fed-offs are responsible and the only ones authorised to do anything about it.


What does munch on my thinker is if the DESIGNATION PEGASUS is all coincidence? ....



xxxMzK
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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
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I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu 6581438


Good to see you gurl !!!! afro

Yes I agree that the sun is not what we are told she is since our childhood ...
I read somewhere that plasma-waves coming from our yellow-hello are only becoming "HOT" when they enter and mix with our atmosphere !
So outside our globe they are not what they are in here.
Thus it might indeed be so that the sun is not HOT at all,
and I also agree that inside the Sun there is a portal [wormhole] .
It is possible that changes IN the Sun (like incoming traffic/ships) determine the result and effects that we see as "sunspots" and "magnetic arcs and filaments" ...
Incoming traffic has an effect on the electric-magnetic chemistry and that is translated to the outer-surface.
I could imagine that "traffic" has to follow "rules" [19.48, Golden Mean-rules, see also the coil/donut of Randy powell]


xxxMzK

[Happy Easter every one !!!]

bunny
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That's me 23/7 ^^ chuckle
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Krispness, that these pipelines come in from all over in a network originally set up by Rockefeller as a way to circumvent the railways, and re-gain control, and ultimately win against the likes of Vanderbilt, Carnegie and J.P. Morgan shows the deep tentacles that strangle the US, from mountains to deep sea beds.

The pipes are everywhere, and come from everywhere.

Easy to infect.



*** I made a mistake above. It was not Rothschild, but Rockefeller that created this control.

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is it me or do those Gulf of Mexico canister creatures in the video a few posts back look suspiciously like the little oysters in Disney's Alice in Wonderland? They have the same face...All they need are little shell bonnets and they'd be one and the same.
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is it me or do those Gulf of Mexico canister creatures in the video a few posts back look suspiciously like the little oysters in Disney's Alice in Wonderland? They have the same face...All they need are little shell bonnets and they'd be one and the same.
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Maybe the RV operator was thinking about them at the time, and AUgie did the rest.....
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To BeePeeoildisaster:

Go on with your work. do not be afraid. You are guarded.


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so much info so little time....
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TUTU!! Glad to see you here. Or are you always here but hiding in the dark? Like I do. Hope to see more of your posts. They're always good.
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Thread: “Manatees Dying in Droves on Both Coasts of Florida” — Deaths of pelicans, turtles, dolphins also increasing — “Scientists fear this is the begin

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TUTU!! Glad to see you here. Or are you always here but hiding in the dark? Like I do. Hope to see more of your posts. They're always good.
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YOUR MAGNIFICENSE! Thank you, my friend - great to see you too. Even better to see that MzR has kept the keys to all your zoomzooms well hidden - good job, R!

Well, I get out of the house more now than before. This month I went to Chico to see a Frank Chester lecture [frankchester.com], next month it's a Dead Can Dance concert in Napa...in between some trail rides back in the woods aboard a feisty paint mare, and a bunch of gardening, playing in the mud pit yadda yadda. So no, not lurking here ALL the time, but I damn sure know better than to get more than 4 or 5 pages in arrears.
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The east coast is not alone in it's tragedy and loss, sadly.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Starving Sea Lion Pups Overwhelm Southern California Rescue Organizations

LOS ANGELES — Hundreds of starving sea lion pups are washing up on beaches from San Diego to Santa Barbara, overwhelming rescue centers and leaving scientists scrambling to figure out why.

At island rookeries off the Southern California coast, 45 percent of the pups born in June have died, said Sharon Melin, a wildlife biologist for the National Marine Fisheries Service based in Seattle. Normally, less than one-third of the pups would die.
...................
Live sea lion strandings are nearly three times higher than the historical average, said Jim Milbury of the National Marine Fisheries Service, part of NOAA.

Between Jan. 1 and March 24, 948 pups were rescued, Milbury said. The bulk of those were in Los Angeles County, which had 395, followed by San Diego, Orange, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties, he said. Last year, only about 100 pups needed saving during the same period.

At the Pacific Marine Mammal Care Center in Laguna Beach, there were 139 animals being cared for Friday. Of those, 131 were sea lion pups, said spokeswoman Melissa Sciacca. She said the center has treated more than 220 sea lion pups so far this year, while the center treated 118 in all of 2012.

Southern California rescue facilities have become so crowded they have had to start sending pups to Northern California, said Jeff Boehm, executive director at The Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito, which was caring for 30 starving pups.
.................................
"No link has been established at this time between these sea lion strandings and any potential seafood safety issues," NOAA said in a statement.

There has been no sign of adult female mortality, Melin said. But the pups' situation on the beaches is so bad, rescuers have had to leave the worst of them in an effort to save the strongest ones, she said.

Scientists expect the death toll to rise in April when weaning is supposed to take place. They also expect it to move further north, Melin said.

Methinks we will see more and more of this as the Fukushima radioactive material arrives here. I don't even take Oso to the beach anymore.
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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
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I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu 6581438


Good to see you gurl !!!! afro

Yes I agree that the sun is not what we are told she is since our childhood ...
I read somewhere that plasma-waves coming from our yellow-hello are only becoming "HOT" when they enter and mix with our atmosphere !
So outside our globe they are not what they are in here.
Thus it might indeed be so that the sun is not HOT at all,
and I also agree that inside the Sun there is a portal [wormhole] .
It is possible that changes IN the Sun (like incoming traffic/ships) determine the result and effects that we see as "sunspots" and "magnetic arcs and filaments" ...
Incoming traffic has an effect on the electric-magnetic chemistry and that is translated to the outer-surface.
I could imagine that "traffic" has to follow "rules" [19.48, Golden Mean-rules, see also the coil/donut of Randy powell]


xxxMzK

[Happy Easter every one !!!]

:bunny:
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MzK , you and I are on the same track as regards our star in the 'hood. However, all of what I was taught about the torus as a universal energy flow pattern was challenged last weekend by a delightful man named Frank Chester. I now doubt that it applies across the board. This guy is as good as Naseem Haramein. I encourage you all to check him out - frankchester.com.
Don't let the bunny get into the maple syrup - you will regret it.
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Huh, who'd have thought...

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Huh, who'd have thought...

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Huh, who'd have thought...

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How am I not surprised....

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"But then they shouldn't delude themselves that they've stopped the spill; they should now go and say, 'Let's figure out what the plume was all about,' because if THAT'S the hole, and the casing blew out, we have an enormous problem"
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"That's a tiny leak, and what the scientists are saying watching this stain spread – it's now bigger, I gather, than Maryland and Delaware, and several hundred feet thick, and it's gooey stuff – that's NOT coming out of there; they think that it's flowing at 120,000 barrels a day. It would almost have to be that big to flow that wide."







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What the research vessel found a week ago Sunday [referring to news reports of May 16, 2010] was this giant plume about six miles (10 km) away, and then this huge layer of goo on the ocean floor... that's almost certain – I mean, maybe it's a natural fracture – I think that's where the wellhead is.









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RE: The Sea Lions dying off. There has been a problem here of the damm critters getting crushed in the locks in Ballard Canal, clogging up the Duwamish Waterway, etc. (Look these up on a map) They have tried all kinds of solutions. The Winchester Solution was tried for a while (blasting them with a rifle) but all that noise upset the people who live around there. Maybe somebody found something to feed them to cut down on the excess population of sea lions.

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Simmons was found dead on August 8, 2010, in his hot tub








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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
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I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
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Yep, Corium is a delicious mixture of nuclear fuel, zircaloy cladding, containment vessel wall, concrete and a sprinkle of control rod for taste..

Think of it as a molten blob of white hot metal that is self-heating.. It sometimes flows into pipes and other container like structures under the pull of gravity due to it's multi-tonne weight. After Chernobyl was encased in it's new building.. the team drilled into the reactor vessel itself to ascertain the condition of the nuclear fuel.. to their surprise they found none.. turns out it flowed into the basement and into the thousands of pipes and channels present in the RBMK design. This was credited with the sharp and unexplained drop in radiation during the later part of the Battle of Chernobyl.

The problem with Corium is that it is uncontrollable.. and if it comes in contact with a good moderator, and has the right geometry, it can undergo prompt criticality(rapid self sustaining nuclear reaction) and even explode. In both Chernobyl and Fukushima, there have been theories that prompt criticality occurred.

In Chernobyl, when the steam voids (areas where the coolant has been allowed to become super heated, you get a massive power increase) and because the Soviet RBMK reactor design uses a graphite moderated channel type deign (think of hundreds of small nuclear reactors all combined into one very big core for RBMK) it was still critical when the water was reduced. In all but the RBMK and the sodium reactor (nuclear subs and experimental systems) the moderator is water, so if it forms steam voids (bubbles or pockets of steam instead of water) the lack of moderation retards the reaction. In the soviet design, this was not the case and moderation continues even with water removed. As the reaction increased, it made more steam, which produced more power and so on..

This is called a positive feed back loop and what was unknown to the operators at the time was the RBMK design had a high positive void coefficient problem. When the operators noticed the huge spike in power, they scrammed the plant (S.C.R.A.M= Safety Cut Axe Man, to emergency stop and insert all rods to stop the reaction) It had an unintended effect. When the rods inserted, they displaced even more coolant in the channels and caused a massive increase in thermal power, exactly opposite of what they expected, and the control rods had graphite tips providing additional moderation. The first reports from the IAEA had stated that the explosion was caused by steam pressure alone, but the amount of force was so great that it blew a 2000 tonne concrete and steel bio-shield lid vertically into the air. Uncontrolled, prompt criticality can certainly generate the gigawatts of thermal energy (yes, it was measured in the control room as that high) needed for this level of kinetic thrust. Thus, the details for Chernobyl may now include criticality excursions in the timeline.

Prompt criticality excursions are the main reason why the gun-type design of the little boy design atomic bomb was rejected in favor of the implosion design. The chance that problems with the high explosive or purity of the physics package could cause the bomb to fizzle instead of go super critical was a deal breaker, even though it was the much easier to construct and design.

Spontainous prompt criticality is a major issue, and the reason why proper geometry (actual physical shape of cast materials) is so important, in Corium, you loose control of everything, including shape and moderation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to skitamura.sakura.ne.jp]

Forward to Japan,

There are many key indicators that do not pass the smell test for me.

1)Reported problems with the plant BEFORE the wave hit. (Stuxnet?)

2)4 Reactors building explosions, but only three reactors were fueled? Why was there an explosion in the offline plant? Official story stated that hydrogen from the other building. Modern plants like the GE Mark I have hermetically sealed containment buildings and controls for the remaining structure as well, ambient gasses to not just pass freely, even to the superficial structure housing the containment.

So why did the offline plant explode? The theory I subscribe to the most is prompt criticality from uncovered fuel in the spent fuel pool. So take please take note of this when officials tell you that nuclear plants can not and will not explode.. they can and have on both a large (Chernobyl and possibly Fukushima) and small scale (Sodium reactor test bed outside LA)

3)Neutron beams observed. (indicator of ongoing fission, and thus risk of more prompt criticality)

With Corium there is no control of geometry or reaction at all.. you get what you get, and if the conditions are right, you can get a big blast and lots of fission products released. The results of which would look a lot like what Perth is showing you.. not an earthquake, but a short pulse like an explosion. The super-heating of the surrounding ocean also indicates that the corium has reached the water table and we now have a bona fide "China Syndrome" underway.

The only thing missing would be the massive radiation increase and or steam-vents, if its under water (a moderator) then perhaps that explains the west coast die-offs and high strangeness.

Anyhow, sorry for the long post, I've tried my best to break down what he is getting at for those who are not familiar with the processes and terminology.. hope it has helped.

Thanks!

If you don's quite understand, wikipedia has more then you ever wanted to know, please start there...

On Chernobyl:

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On Nuclear power:

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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1484984


I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu 6581438


Good to see you gurl !!!! afro

Yes I agree that the sun is not what we are told she is since our childhood ...
I read somewhere that plasma-waves coming from our yellow-hello are only becoming "HOT" when they enter and mix with our atmosphere !
So outside our globe they are not what they are in here.
Thus it might indeed be so that the sun is not HOT at all,
and I also agree that inside the Sun there is a portal [wormhole] .
It is possible that changes IN the Sun (like incoming traffic/ships) determine the result and effects that we see as "sunspots" and "magnetic arcs and filaments" ...
Incoming traffic has an effect on the electric-magnetic chemistry and that is translated to the outer-surface.
I could imagine that "traffic" has to follow "rules" [19.48, Golden Mean-rules, see also the coil/donut of Randy powell]


xxxMzK

[Happy Easter every one !!!]

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 Quoting: Krispy71




here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho

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