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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.

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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.
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im in tears- thanks for your help :dubya:

smile_hear odance
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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Justin, Justin, you smartypants you! You just made my head explode, my friend.
Now I have to clean up this mess before I can retire to the boudoir for the evening. Makes ye wonder who designed that bidniz. *swabs the deck*
You aren't over there munching monotomic gold are ye?
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We is walkin on gold here darlin, rivers are runnin with it, crushed quartz crunches a rythem as you step, ozone's so thick that it just takes your mind away
my poor old think-muncher gots enuf spin-state without no-mo mon-atom!
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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.
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im in tears- thanks for your help :dubya:

smile_hear odance
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Yo to that guys!
Eez dont no it but his back story is soo same as mine, walks my girls every day
(Ishtar & Vesta) through a fog of neg-ions around a huge mega-lith,
somedays we touches subtler realities and if we're really on, we gets a big wooo
of knowing! aaaaaah!!
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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
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I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
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Yep, Corium is a delicious mixture of nuclear fuel, zircaloy cladding, containment vessel wall, concrete and a sprinkle of control rod for taste..

Think of it as a molten blob of white hot metal that is self-heating.. It sometimes flows into pipes and other container like structures under the pull of gravity due to it's multi-tonne weight. After Chernobyl was encased in it's new building.. the team drilled into the reactor vessel itself to ascertain the condition of the nuclear fuel.. to their surprise they found none.. turns out it flowed into the basement and into the thousands of pipes and channels present in the RBMK design. This was credited with the sharp and unexplained drop in radiation during the later part of the Battle of Chernobyl.

The problem with Corium is that it is uncontrollable.. and if it comes in contact with a good moderator, and has the right geometry, it can undergo prompt criticality(rapid self sustaining nuclear reaction) and even explode. In both Chernobyl and Fukushima, there have been theories that prompt criticality occurred.

In Chernobyl, when the steam voids (areas where the coolant has been allowed to become super heated, you get a massive power increase) and because the Soviet RBMK reactor design uses a graphite moderated channel type deign (think of hundreds of small nuclear reactors all combined into one very big core for RBMK) it was still critical when the water was reduced. In all but the RBMK and the sodium reactor (nuclear subs and experimental systems) the moderator is water, so if it forms steam voids (bubbles or pockets of steam instead of water) the lack of moderation retards the reaction. In the soviet design, this was not the case and moderation continues even with water removed. As the reaction increased, it made more steam, which produced more power and so on..

This is called a positive feed back loop and what was unknown to the operators at the time was the RBMK design had a high positive void coefficient problem. When the operators noticed the huge spike in power, they scrammed the plant (S.C.R.A.M= Safety Cut Axe Man, to emergency stop and insert all rods to stop the reaction) It had an unintended effect. When the rods inserted, they displaced even more coolant in the channels and caused a massive increase in thermal power, exactly opposite of what they expected, and the control rods had graphite tips providing additional moderation. The first reports from the IAEA had stated that the explosion was caused by steam pressure alone, but the amount of force was so great that it blew a 2000 tonne concrete and steel bio-shield lid vertically into the air. Uncontrolled, prompt criticality can certainly generate the gigawatts of thermal energy (yes, it was measured in the control room as that high) needed for this level of kinetic thrust. Thus, the details for Chernobyl may now include criticality excursions in the timeline.

Prompt criticality excursions are the main reason why the gun-type design of the little boy design atomic bomb was rejected in favor of the implosion design. The chance that problems with the high explosive or purity of the physics package could cause the bomb to fizzle instead of go super critical was a deal breaker, even though it was the much easier to construct and design.

Spontainous prompt criticality is a major issue, and the reason why proper geometry (actual physical shape of cast materials) is so important, in Corium, you loose control of everything, including shape and moderation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to skitamura.sakura.ne.jp]

Forward to Japan,

There are many key indicators that do not pass the smell test for me.

1)Reported problems with the plant BEFORE the wave hit. (Stuxnet?)

2)4 Reactors building explosions, but only three reactors were fueled? Why was there an explosion in the offline plant? Official story stated that hydrogen from the other building. Modern plants like the GE Mark I have hermetically sealed containment buildings and controls for the remaining structure as well, ambient gasses to not just pass freely, even to the superficial structure housing the containment.

So why did the offline plant explode? The theory I subscribe to the most is prompt criticality from uncovered fuel in the spent fuel pool. So take please take note of this when officials tell you that nuclear plants can not and will not explode.. they can and have on both a large (Chernobyl and possibly Fukushima) and small scale (Sodium reactor test bed outside LA)

3)Neutron beams observed. (indicator of ongoing fission, and thus risk of more prompt criticality)

With Corium there is no control of geometry or reaction at all.. you get what you get, and if the conditions are right, you can get a big blast and lots of fission products released. The results of which would look a lot like what Perth is showing you.. not an earthquake, but a short pulse like an explosion. The super-heating of the surrounding ocean also indicates that the corium has reached the water table and we now have a bona fide "China Syndrome" underway.

The only thing missing would be the massive radiation increase and or steam-vents, if its under water (a moderator) then perhaps that explains the west coast die-offs and high strangeness.

Anyhow, sorry for the long post, I've tried my best to break down what he is getting at for those who are not familiar with the processes and terminology.. hope it has helped.

Thanks!

If you don's quite understand, wikipedia has more then you ever wanted to know, please start there...

On Chernobyl:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

On Nuclear power:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Quote from....

Thread: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...


carry on
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I dont see the problem with the water temp ...
there is pink and red in the waters surrounding Northern Europe too !!! Thats becoz it is COLD here, its still WINTER temps.
So who sais that the waters around Japan are HOT, they could be COLD too ... I remember reading they had major snowfalls ;)

With this I dont say that the corium-side of the story couldnt be true ...
But in my opinion there is nothing abnormal with the water (winter) temps :)


xxxK
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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32041464


I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36484566


SNIP

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


Quote from....

Thread: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...


carry on
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I dont see the problem with the water temp ...
there is pink and red in the waters surrounding Northern Europe too !!! Thats becoz it is COLD here, its still WINTER temps.

So who sais that the waters around Japan are HOT, they could be COLD too ... I remember reading they had major snowfalls ;)

With this I dont say that the corium-side of the story couldnt be true ...
But in my opinion there is nothing abnormal with the water (winter) temps :)


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


?
[link to weather.unisys.com]
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Grumpy was interested in this aspect too, on VC.

More interested in the radiation link, rather than the deep drilling side I tried to bring to the forefront.

One thing on temp sites I am not 100% sure about is what is the sattelite actually measuring? Surface temp? If it scans ocean, obviously there are multiple layers of temps, including ground temp at the bottom.

Which one is it measuring?
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I think the only way you could actually come across as an anon would be to get someone else to type your crap, off a note you had typed in plain text first, so your emotions dont come to prominence so much. It's that side of you that keeps coming through. The problem living with empaths is that all they see IS emotion, so its easy to zone in on what the person looks like who wrote the note, and once you compare it to another you know someone wrote, and they say thats them, you're busted, again. Just stop wasting your effort and energy, and let me do my thang here, and I'll do the same for you.

>> thanks for the neg karma, again.

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Carnival Triumph breaks loose from repair berth; man reported missing

(CNN) -- One person was missing Wednesday afternoon after high winds in Mobile, Alabama, caused the disabled cruise ship Carnival Triumph to break loose from its dock, officials said.

There were conflicting reports as to where the missing man was working.

An official with the city's fire department said the missing man and another person were in a guard shack that was blown into Mobile River. One man has been recovered from the water.

However, the Coast Guard said the missing person was involved in repair work on the Triumph. The call to the Coast Guard came in at 1:45 p.m. CT.

Carnival spokeswoman Joyce Oliva said all of the company's crew members and contractors on the ship have been accounted for.

Wind gusts reached between 40 and 50 miles per hour Wednesday, according to the National Weather Service in Mobile.

The Triumph has been at BAE Shipyard in the Port of Mobile since an engine fire in February left the cruise ship crippled and adrift in the Gulf of Mexico with more than 4,200 people aboard. For four days, tugboats guided the disabled ship into the port as passengers complained about miserable conditions on board.

On Wednesday, it drifted across the shipyard after breaking free. Tugboats kept it from drifting farther down river, the Coast Guard said.

CNN affiliate WKRG reported the cruise ship had a hole on the right side of the stern.

Carnival said in late March the ship would be out of service until June 3. In addition to repairs, workers will increase the number of systems and services that the Triumph and other Carnival ships can run on backup power.

Wednesday's incident was the latest in several headline-making issues for one of the world's leading cruise lines. Four of the company's 23 ships have had problems in recent months.

The cruise line has offered affected passengers refunds and discounts on future cruises.

It faces a class-action lawsuit in the face of the Triumph's last cruise when passengers reported that food was scarce, cruise goers sweltered in the heat with no air conditioning, toilets overflowed and human waste ran down the walls in some parts of the ship.

The problems have also prompted one U.S. lawmaker to propose a "Cruise Ship Passenger Bill of Rights."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said he was asking the cruise industry to voluntarily sign on to a list of guidelines, including the right to backup power if generators fail and the right to disembark a docked ship "if basic provisions cannot adequately be provided on board."

He also called on the International Maritime Organization to investigate whether cruise lines are following existing guidelines, and whether existing standards are being enforced by countries where cruise ships that serve U.S. passengers are based.

"Cruise ships, in large part operating outside the bounds of United States enforcement, have become the Wild West of the travel industry, and it's time to rein them in before anyone else gets hurt," Schumer said in a statement. "This bill of rights, based on work we've done with the airline industry, will ensure that passengers aren't forced to live in third world conditions or put their lives at risk when they go on vacation."


**** also the hot rumour about this and other cruise ships that mysteriously have lost power, especially those employing elecrtic 'pod' motors or electric bow and stern thrusters, is that when brought back to port, the entire ship has had to be encircled with a steel anchor chain, that is dragged from bow to stern, in order to 'degauss' them.

What would be charging these huge vessels up to the point where they have become magnetised? Where does all this take place?

Sounds like a familiar story?!!!!

Now bring in U3's thread, and its gettin interesting!!

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Thread: FAA issues "no-fly" zone over Arkansas oil spill.


Minor pipeline rupture? Why issue a no fly zone.

[link to tfr.faa.gov]
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Hi fellow researchers...I mean,fellow Bezerker's...heh!

Listen, I've run across something new to me and have been perplexing over it so thought I'd run it by you.

I ran across this:

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.


The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”


and here's a map of the 4 corners...red squares where it's high and yellow where it's low....

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]



and I'm talking about it in this thread
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?


A poster pointed out to me that the hollow earth could account for the low and high spots. That got me to thinking about all the tunnels, etc: under the ocean and earth....and of course, the gulf!

You know, when we are trying to figure out what's going on and determining effects, etc:, there are so many things to consider.

Anyway, I just wanted you to have this information about the corners....it may or may not influence whatever is going on in the gulf.

And if any of you have thoughts to share on my thread....please drop by. I think the more all of us can pull data together on these mysterious influences, the better.

Although, I really wonder if we will ever figure it out? And, maybe I'd rather not. After all, isn't chasing these mysteries fun? rockon

Love you guys....hope Easter and April Fool's were good times for ya'!!!!! hf
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Bruce Cathie, a New Zealander, is the guy to talk to about such matters.
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Minor pipeline rupture? Why issue a no fly zone.

[link to tfr.faa.gov]
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Maybe this:

Thread: UPDATE......Louisiana lightning tonight...pretty intense...STRANGE PULSATING GLOW IN DISTANCE...VIDS!!!!!!!

Check out the 36 second video posted at 11pm last night. The pulsating red looks something like the flight-view of the possible China nuclear explosion posted several years ago
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Hi fellow researchers...I mean,fellow Bezerker's...heh!

Listen, I've run across something new to me and have been perplexing over it so thought I'd run it by you.

I ran across this:

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.


The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”


and here's a map of the 4 corners...red squares where it's high and yellow where it's low....

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]



and I'm talking about it in this thread
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?


A poster pointed out to me that the hollow earth could account for the low and high spots. That got me to thinking about all the tunnels, etc: under the ocean and earth....and of course, the gulf!

You know, when we are trying to figure out what's going on and determining effects, etc:, there are so many things to consider.

Anyway, I just wanted you to have this information about the corners....it may or may not influence whatever is going on in the gulf.

And if any of you have thoughts to share on my thread....please drop by. I think the more all of us can pull data together on these mysterious influences, the better.

Although, I really wonder if we will ever figure it out? And, maybe I'd rather not. After all, isn't chasing these mysteries fun? rockon

Love you guys....hope Easter and April Fool's were good times for ya'!!!!! hf
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Bruce Cathie, a New Zealander, is the guy to talk to about such matters.
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Snap! just mentioned Bruce on his thread.
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Was thinking about Cathie, and grids and energy flows, and started doing some looking about on the pipelines within the US, and it struck me that these pipelines are generally thought of as a singular product carrier.

i.e. an 'oil' pipeline.

Modern pipelines are multi carriers of various grades and types of oils, which are often only one of the materials being transported.

The viscosity of the oil allows other products, such as gasses and even solids (coal, minerals) to be placed within the flow.

At the other end, the various products are separated.

With that in mind, the no fly zone over the spill, a side from covering the mess from the public eye, may also be about methane or gas release from the same pipeline.

They can also be considered giant, hollow cables, as they traverse large distances, and are one piece, and there fore able to sustain a wave form within them, or even carry basic frequencies from one point to another. A covert network outside the usual channels.

This also makes them especially vulnerable to CMEs and other incomming radiation from space.

That incomming information might be captured by oil pipelines, and transferred to the oil within is ironic.

Ironic? or planned.
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Was thinking about Cathie, and grids and energy flows, and started doing some looking about on the pipelines within the US, and it struck me that these pipelines are generally thought of as a singular product carrier.

i.e. an 'oil' pipeline.

Modern pipelines are multi carriers of various grades and types of oils, which are often only one of the materials being transported.

The viscosity of the oil allows other products, such as gasses and even solids (coal, minerals) to be placed within the flow.

At the other end, the various products are separated.

With that in mind, the no fly zone over the spill, a side from covering the mess from the public eye, may also be about methane or gas release from the same pipeline.

They can also be considered giant, hollow cables, as they traverse large distances, and are one piece, and there fore able to sustain a wave form within them, or even carry basic frequencies from one point to another. A covert network outside the usual channels.

This also makes them especially vulnerable to CMEs and other incomming radiation from space.

That incomming information might be captured by oil pipelines, and transferred to the oil within is ironic.

Ironic? or planned.
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Very good points BHD. That reminded me of something I saw on a youtube video which I tried to post, but it would not post. Might I remind you to view again "Artifacts of the Lost Civilization"
You remember from 2010, right, a conference in Australia.

There was mentioned certain frequency tones from sites, tones that were not the music scales. I just wondered if there are so many of these sites around earth, what are the possibilities that they could be disturbed or distorted from mining, fracking, and such.

There has been a lot of quakes in Indiana and Virginia lately. But then, there are a lot of quakes world wide lately, especially on the ocean ridges and in Canada, close to Greenland, and Iceland too according to ANF.


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Update from Gabes thread:

Thread: F.O.G. (Page 772)

Just in...
Millions of people in the greater New Orleans area have been poisoned since early Wednesday morning. Exxon Chalmette Refinery has released hazardous chemicals that have impacted human rights throughout the area, according to a watchdog group but the state Department of Environmental Quality officials say they have been unable to find the source. .
A chemical release throughout Greater New Orleans has been so strong, it awakened residents in early hours Wednesday, many reporting burning eyes and throats, and prompting a Louisiana Bucket Brigade rapid response investigation team to mobilize.

"I suddenly woke up at 4am and I got up from my bed and I got a very strong petroleum smell even in my living room. I live at 204 South Saratoga...," a resident wrote Wednesday on the iWitness Pollution Map page managed by Louisiana Bucket Brigade.

That was only one of a host of similar reports by people awakened by the chemical attack.

"Around 3:45 AM there was a strong odor in that area smelled chemical and rancid. My eyes began to immediately burn, and throat itched," a Lake Pontchartrain resident wrote on the iWitness Pollution Map page Wednesday at 2:09 P.M. Wednesday.

At 2:00 P.M., another person reported seeing giant flare from a Chalmette refiner from the Mississippi River bridge.

"Rain in the last 12 hours has brought a scent of natural gas that is overwhelming. Woke up in the night afraid I had left on the stove..." another reported.

"There is a nasty burnt rubber smell on Lake Ponchartrain, near the UNO campus. Its making me feel very asthmatic," wrote another.

The list of such reports is extensive. Toxicologists say that feeling the effects of chemicals means poisoning has already occurred.

"It has smelled like gas all day in [A]lgiers," one person reported.

ExxonMobil’s Chalmette Refinery reported releasing 10 pounds of benzene and 100 pounds of hydrogen sulfide early on Wednesday, but La. Bucket Brigade's founding director Anne Rolfes said it released "far more."

The refinery has a bad habit of under-reporting and an "ongoing accident problem, especially during bad weather," Rolfes said.

"There was a flash flood advisory and heavy rain during the night when the chemical smells began," she reported. "Rain is a fact of life in south Louisiana. There is no excuse for Exxon’s ongoing failure to prepare."

Wednesday, DEQ began investigating the widespread complaints of a "chemical" odor throughout the New Orleans metro area.

Jefferson Parish officials are working with DEQ and the Coast Guard to investigate and attempt to locate a source of the reported odor.

The DEQ says it has not linked the chemicals to Exxon in Clamette.

“We apologize to neighbors for any inconvenience this leak incident may have caused,” said Chalmette Refining, LLC, representative Janet Matsushita, manager. “The health and safety of neighbors, community, and employees are our top priority.”
[link to www.examiner.com]


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There was info in Gabes thread about this as well.

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This is what makes this place rock!

A few different ideas, and expanded upon directions.

Creative thinking breeds creative thinking and new concepts and links between areas no commonly linked.
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Hey BaHD, that stuff before about anon's empath's and thangs,
that directed @ me? I mean i can see how it could be!
So please for clarity just-say, or not either way I'le know hey-ho!!
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Hey BaHD, that stuff before about anon's empath's and thangs,
that directed @ me? I mean i can see how it could be!
So please for clarity just-say, or not either way I'le know hey-ho!!
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This thing gets better than sudoku imho LOL

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Ancient Poseidon and Back to Sinkholes ~ maybe more to them than meets the eye, at least in ancient times?


The Geomythological approach – The Proposal of Geomythological interpretation of
Poseidon’s birth

Taking into account all the above mentioned and also that:

1. at Genesion, next to Dini, where the water from Argon Pedion ends up through the Nestani sinkhole, the ancient Argeans sacrificed horses to Poseidon,
2. that in Milia there is the temple of Ippios Poseidon and
3. that in a roman mosaic (Brado Museum, Tunis) Poseidon rises from the sea on a chariot pulled by 4 horses, then there can be no doubt that the emerging point of Poseidon
has to be the greatest area of Dini and Genesion.
The Great Question: How can a God of springs, lakes and seas – a God - protector of water in
general, and at the same time a God of the interior of the Earth to move from his birthplace, Nestani village, to his main action places, the Saronic gulf, the Aegean sea and the rest of the Hellenic area?

Is it possible that he moved over the mountains – mountain Artemision– as Artemis or Pan
would do? No, it isn’t.

Poseidon must have used the Nestani sinkhole to arrive to Dini, i.e. he used the route of the Argon Pedion waters.

5 GENERAL CONCLUSIONS

Some people may think that all the above-mentioned are a great story, but what do all these really mean? Is Greek Mythology nothing more than a tale?
Greek Mythology is not a product of imagination of the imaginative Greeks, but the encrypted physical and geological evolution of this area.
The hydrogeological conditions of the greatest area are directly connected to the actions of a God of the prehistoric Greeks.
Poseidon could never be the creation of a different nation, adopted by the Greeks. He is an autochthonous God.
Poseidon may not be the first inhabitant of Mantineia Prefecture, but he is certainly the mostfamous of the prehistoric Mantineians and, why not, the Ptoleans (the inhabitants of Ptolis).
But, we have to note that not even one of today’s inhabitants of Nestani is aware of its prehistory, with the exception of a few “initiated” ones. That is really a pity !!
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Ancient Poseidon and Back to Sinkholes ~ maybe more to them than meets the eye, at least in ancient times?


The Geomythological approach – The Proposal of Geomythological interpretation of
Poseidon’s birth

Taking into account all the above mentioned and also that:

1. at Genesion, next to Dini, where the water from Argon Pedion ends up through the Nestani sinkhole, the ancient Argeans sacrificed horses to Poseidon,
2. that in Milia there is the temple of Ippios Poseidon and
3. that in a roman mosaic (Brado Museum, Tunis) Poseidon rises from the sea on a chariot pulled by 4 horses, then there can be no doubt that the emerging point of Poseidon
has to be the greatest area of Dini and Genesion.
The Great Question: How can a God of springs, lakes and seas – a God - protector of water in
general, and at the same time a God of the interior of the Earth to move from his birthplace, Nestani village, to his main action places, the Saronic gulf, the Aegean sea and the rest of the Hellenic area?

Is it possible that he moved over the mountains – mountain Artemision– as Artemis or Pan
would do? No, it isn’t.

Poseidon must have used the Nestani sinkhole to arrive to Dini, i.e. he used the route of the Argon Pedion waters.

5 GENERAL CONCLUSIONS

Some people may think that all the above-mentioned are a great story, but what do all these really mean? Is Greek Mythology nothing more than a tale?
Greek Mythology is not a product of imagination of the imaginative Greeks, but the encrypted physical and geological evolution of this area.
The hydrogeological conditions of the greatest area are directly connected to the actions of a God of the prehistoric Greeks.
Poseidon could never be the creation of a different nation, adopted by the Greeks. He is an autochthonous God.
Poseidon may not be the first inhabitant of Mantineia Prefecture, but he is certainly the mostfamous of the prehistoric Mantineians and, why not, the Ptoleans (the inhabitants of Ptolis).
But, we have to note that not even one of today’s inhabitants of Nestani is aware of its prehistory, with the exception of a few “initiated” ones. That is really a pity !!
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SOURCE:

Bulletin of the Geological Society of Greece vol. XXXVI, 2004
Proceedings of the 10th International Congress, Thessaloniki, April 2004


THE ARGON FIELD IN ARCADIA, THE SINKHOLE OF NESTANI VILLAGE,GOD POSEIDON AND THE SUBMARINE DINI SPRINGS IN THE ARGOLIC GULF (PELOPONNISOS, GREECE).

A GEOMYTHOLOGICAL APPROACH OF THE POSEIDON’S BIRTH.


Mariolakos I.D.1
, Mariolakos D.I.2*

1 Dr.rer.nat., Em. Prof. of Geology, Department of Dynamic Tectonic and Applied Geology, School of Geology, National and Kapodistrian University of Athens, 157 74, Athens,
mariolakos@geol.uoa.gr Geologist, MSc Environmentologist, Drs. Erasmus Univ., Rotterdam.
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Hey BaHD, that stuff before about anon's empath's and thangs,
that directed @ me? I mean i can see how it could be!
So please for clarity just-say, or not either way I'le know hey-ho!!
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Hey BaHD, that stuff before about anon's empath's and thangs,
that directed @ me? I mean i can see how it could be!
So please for clarity just-say, or not either way I'le know hey-ho!!
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Absolutely NOT!!! No way directed at your good self.

I kind a feel a little childish putting it 'out there', but it's the only means of communication left open to me.

Sorry you thought it could have been you, I'll do my best never to have you think that again!

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Ancient Poseidon and Back to Sinkholes ~ maybe more to them than meets the eye, at least in ancient times?


The Geomythological approach – The Proposal of Geomythological interpretation of
Poseidon’s birth

Taking into account all the above mentioned and also that:

1. at Genesion, next to Dini, where the water from Argon Pedion ends up through the Nestani sinkhole, the ancient Argeans sacrificed horses to Poseidon,
2. that in Milia there is the temple of Ippios Poseidon and
3. that in a roman mosaic (Brado Museum, Tunis) Poseidon rises from the sea on a chariot pulled by 4 horses, then there can be no doubt that the emerging point of Poseidon
has to be the greatest area of Dini and Genesion.
The Great Question: How can a God of springs, lakes and seas – a God - protector of water in
general, and at the same time a God of the interior of the Earth to move from his birthplace, Nestani village, to his main action places, the Saronic gulf, the Aegean sea and the rest of the Hellenic area?

Is it possible that he moved over the mountains – mountain Artemision– as Artemis or Pan
would do? No, it isn’t.

Poseidon must have used the Nestani sinkhole to arrive to Dini, i.e. he used the route of the Argon Pedion waters.

5 GENERAL CONCLUSIONS

Some people may think that all the above-mentioned are a great story, but what do all these really mean? Is Greek Mythology nothing more than a tale?
Greek Mythology is not a product of imagination of the imaginative Greeks, but the encrypted physical and geological evolution of this area.
The hydrogeological conditions of the greatest area are directly connected to the actions of a God of the prehistoric Greeks.
Poseidon could never be the creation of a different nation, adopted by the Greeks. He is an autochthonous God.
Poseidon may not be the first inhabitant of Mantineia Prefecture, but he is certainly the mostfamous of the prehistoric Mantineians and, why not, the Ptoleans (the inhabitants of Ptolis).
But, we have to note that not even one of today’s inhabitants of Nestani is aware of its prehistory, with the exception of a few “initiated” ones. That is really a pity !!
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That's fascinating Integrator. I know "T" would gobble this up and expand on it no doubt, as one of those initiated as you say.

Our ancient cousins tried very hard I think to warn or teach of events past, that had major impatcs on society. Carved in stone, built as specific monuments, drawn in deserts, but we keep sliding off to one side and losing how to interpret them.

Lawrence Garnder's once wrote that the word 'gay', just in the last 30 years has changed from one meaning to a very different meaning, so what chance do we have interpreting the same words, from a different language, no longer spoken, written on half a tablet, translated in to current forms of language.

But oral, musical and dance history is a different kettle of fish. Much of what you wrote, although ancient Greek, could very well be Australian Aborigine in terms of its storyline, but instead of Man Gods, it would be more centred on animals and creatures long forgotten.

The snippets you wrote certainly, in my head, relate to movement below ground, through places of divinity or power, and as such should be honoured, revered, and kept away from, by those who dont know how and when to approach.

Do you ever wonder, if and when all this goes down, how the historians will recap what happened?

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A quick question for posters, lurkers and author(s).

Have splash zones just stopped? Or are they being controlled/dispersed? or physically stopped by tech?

Has the 'need' for them stopped?

Are they happening all over, and right before our eyes, in oceans, land and sky, but we dont realise what we are looking at?

The OP(s) never really got into the mechanics of them, and another poster referred to them as 'a point on the planet where energy flows to fascilitate change'.

I quite liked that, as it was both broad and topical!

We see large movements of energy every day, in weather, EQs, waves etc.

Many dutiful posters have been keeping an eye open, such as Gabe, on specific events, and it dawned on me that this whole place (GLP) is a repository that one could quite easily, build a global picture of abnormalities.

Becomes harder when you're hearded in to one cubicle, and truly enjoy that topic.

Has bezerk become the dailynews for those who need to see the bigger picture? We still look at the shiney things the MSM place before us, but we also notice the boring, little discussed areas diametrically opposed to these.

Like I have said before, it's really hard to peer over the rim of the pitrie dish.

Not everything is as it seems.

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(Thanks EW and BF)

Snippet -

"The nuclear and tsunami terror attack against Japan on March 11, 2011 was also carried out by the Sabbatean Nazis and some of their North Korean allies. The missile used in the attack was a 500 kiloton device stolen from the Russian submarine Kursk in 2000. It was transferred by the secret Nazi submarine network to the Nazi base on the Atlantic Island of Sao Tome. From there it was taken to the other Nazi submarine base in New Guinea before being taken to Japan via yacht and fishing boat.

After being landed in Kyushu it was then taken to a property in Hinodecho in Western Tokyo owned by Yasuhiro Nakasone. Then it was transferred to the Chosen Soren building next to the Yasukuni shrine before being taken to the deep sea drilling ship Chikyu. The sources for the information include smugglers and yakuza members actually involved in the transportation of the missile. These people are willing to testify to this in court.

On board the Chikyu,the nuclear material in the missile was divided to make several smaller devices that were drilled 10 kilometers into the sea-bed. One of the technicians involved in this operation ran to a church seeking help after his co-workers started to be murdered in order to silence them after the tsunami occurred. He was sheltered by a Christian group connected to the Tachikawa church of the reverend Paolo Izumi and is now in protective custody in the US.

Disgust at the 311 attacks is one of the main reasons for the split between the old North Korean organizations in Japan and the new North Korean government. This has led to the arrest of Yasuhiro Nakasone and an ongoing secret purge of all those involved in this operation".






Been saying for a while that the deep drilling off Japan will be used for an Omega style stop or start of something. The tsunami, if attributed to what went down in the article above, was one of the test runs for something much larger.

Whether Fukushima was a result of a subterranian detonation, or was deliberately acted out to keep people away is yet to play out.

I think it still plays in to the larger bezerk story,
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$700 Million in Katrina Relief Missing, Report Shows

By JEFF ZELENY WASHINGTON, April 3, 2013

A new inspector general's report found that about $700 million awarded to help Hurricane Katrina victims fortify their homes from future floods is unaccounted for, which Congressional leaders say is a troubling sign of the need for tighter controls as Superstorm Sandy rebuilding efforts intensify this spring.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development is pressing the state of Louisiana to recover the money given to homeowners to elevate their houses. But David Montoya, the inspector general of the agency, told ABC News that the likelihood of reclaiming the money was "slim, at best."

"We have $700 million that we can't account for and that certainly did not go to elevating homes and preventing future damage from storms," Montoya said in an interview in his office in Washington.

"This is money we can't afford to lose. This is money that we don't get back and this is money that we can't put toward other disaster victims."

The cases of government waste and fraud have steadily piled up since Hurricane Katrina ravaged the Gulf Coast in 2005. Federal prosecutors are pursuing criminal charges in New Orleans, including one instance last week in which a New Orleans woman pleaded guilty to making false statements after taking government grants and failing to fix her home.

The Louisiana Road Home program, which allocated $1 billion to elevate and repair homes to protect them from flooding and storms, was part of the $29 billion Hurricane Katrina relief effort approved at the time by Congress. The government investigation found that 70 percent of the money has not been accounted for. More than 24,000 homeowners who each accepted grants of $30,000 were unable to show they used the money to fix their houses.

"There is fault all the way around. Clearly the homeowner accepting up to $30,000 to elevate their home is at fault for not using the money that it was intended for," HUD's Montoya said.

He added, "Clearly the state's at fault for not doing a better job of due diligence if you will for ensuring that these homes were being elevated."

The state of Louisiana acknowledges that hundreds of millions of dollars from the program have not been accounted for, but officials told ABC News they are working to recover the money and pushing homeowners to restore their houses in hopes of minimizing damage from the next round of floods and storms. Since the federal investigation began last year, the state says that it has already tracked down 5,000 more people who have fixed their homes.

"We are working aggressively with HUD to get the remaining 19,000 homeowners in compliance," said Pat Forbes, who oversees disaster recovery in the administration of Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.

Sen. Tom Coburn, a member of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said the lessons from Hurricane Katrina's relief efforts should stand as a stark warning as Hurricane Sandy rebuilding efforts intensify this spring in New Jersey and New York. He said the Obama administration should take steps now to avoid repeating the mistakes of Hurricane Katrina.

Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican who is among the loudest critics on Capitol Hill of government waste, outlined his concerns this week to Housing Secretary Shaun Donovan. In a two-page letter obtained by ABC News, he bluntly declared: "HUD must work to not repeat mistakes from previous programs.

Coburn said HUD should have a plan in place to ensure that people who receive grants use the money for its intended purpose. He said one area of particular concern is the $16 billion community development block grant program in the Hurricane Sandy aid package, which was signed into law earlier this year by President Obama after intense debate in Congress.

Senior officials at the Housing Department told ABC News that tighter controls are already in place for the Sandy rebuilding effort that were not operative during Hurricane Katrina.

"In the years since Hurricane Katrina, HUD has already implemented a number of the recommendations made by the Inspector General, including additional controls to ensure recovery funds are used properly," said Jerry Brown, a spokesman for the Housing Department.

But the call for stricter accountability in government spending rings hollow in the Gentilly neighborhood of New Orleans, where dilapidated houses remain an eyesore for Felicia Higgins, who said she went through a very "arduous process" to qualify for a government grant to elevate her home.

She believes some of her former neighbors are guilty of fraud.

"It hits you in the face every time you walk out the front door," Higgins said in an interview this week, standing outside her house that sits near abandoned and dilapidated property. "If they aren't going to spend the money for what it was intended, then they need to give it back."

Tina Marquardt, who works at Beacon of Hope, a community organization created to help New Orleans residents rebuild after Hurricane Katrina, said the people who received money from the Road Home Elevation Program should have been monitored to see if they were following the guidelines of the program.

"There needs to be a physical inspection of every property that received Road Home money," Marquardt said, adding that the damage is still taking a toll on New Orleans. "It decreases the quality of life in the neighborhood. It's an eyesore and it decreases the value of your own property."

More than seven years after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita struck the Gulf Coast, the rebuilding still continues, but the effort is underway with more urgency for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. Complicated bureaucratic rules that made it difficult for some homeowners to follow the guidelines of the program have been streamlined, officials said.

In an interview with ABC News, the inspector general said the home elevation programs were valid, but perhaps the owners should receive the money after they have completed their work on their property.

"Before you pay out funding such as this, up to $30,000 with a promise to do something," Montoya said, "we'd like to see the disbursement of these funds happen after the projects are done; almost a reimbursement to the state where inspections have been done to ensure that the homes were elevated."
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So that was for Kat' what about the same for DWH spill? Bet it's exactly the same deal. They wont put money into something they know they wont get a return on. Passive evacuations, or forcing folks out through ignoring them, and making it near imposible to make a living.

We all thought the humvees and troop movers would be in force rescuing folks, when in fact they are just waiting it out until there isnt a population any more.

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