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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
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I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
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I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
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Good to see you gurl !!!! afro

Yes I agree that the sun is not what we are told she is since our childhood ...
I read somewhere that plasma-waves coming from our yellow-hello are only becoming "HOT" when they enter and mix with our atmosphere !
So outside our globe they are not what they are in here.
Thus it might indeed be so that the sun is not HOT at all,
and I also agree that inside the Sun there is a portal [wormhole] .
It is possible that changes IN the Sun (like incoming traffic/ships) determine the result and effects that we see as "sunspots" and "magnetic arcs and filaments" ...
Incoming traffic has an effect on the electric-magnetic chemistry and that is translated to the outer-surface.
I could imagine that "traffic" has to follow "rules" [19.48, Golden Mean-rules, see also the coil/donut of Randy powell]


xxxMzK

[Happy Easter every one !!!]

:bunny:
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MzK , you and I are on the same track as regards our star in the 'hood. However, all of what I was taught about the torus as a universal energy flow pattern was challenged last weekend by a delightful man named Frank Chester. I now doubt that it applies across the board. This guy is as good as Naseem Haramein. I encourage you all to check him out - frankchester.com.
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Huh, who'd have thought...

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Huh, who'd have thought...

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Huh, who'd have thought...

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How am I not surprised....

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"But then they shouldn't delude themselves that they've stopped the spill; they should now go and say, 'Let's figure out what the plume was all about,' because if THAT'S the hole, and the casing blew out, we have an enormous problem"
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"That's a tiny leak, and what the scientists are saying watching this stain spread – it's now bigger, I gather, than Maryland and Delaware, and several hundred feet thick, and it's gooey stuff – that's NOT coming out of there; they think that it's flowing at 120,000 barrels a day. It would almost have to be that big to flow that wide."







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What the research vessel found a week ago Sunday [referring to news reports of May 16, 2010] was this giant plume about six miles (10 km) away, and then this huge layer of goo on the ocean floor... that's almost certain – I mean, maybe it's a natural fracture – I think that's where the wellhead is.









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RE: The Sea Lions dying off. There has been a problem here of the damm critters getting crushed in the locks in Ballard Canal, clogging up the Duwamish Waterway, etc. (Look these up on a map) They have tried all kinds of solutions. The Winchester Solution was tried for a while (blasting them with a rifle) but all that noise upset the people who live around there. Maybe somebody found something to feed them to cut down on the excess population of sea lions.

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Simmons was found dead on August 8, 2010, in his hot tub








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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
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I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
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Yep, Corium is a delicious mixture of nuclear fuel, zircaloy cladding, containment vessel wall, concrete and a sprinkle of control rod for taste..

Think of it as a molten blob of white hot metal that is self-heating.. It sometimes flows into pipes and other container like structures under the pull of gravity due to it's multi-tonne weight. After Chernobyl was encased in it's new building.. the team drilled into the reactor vessel itself to ascertain the condition of the nuclear fuel.. to their surprise they found none.. turns out it flowed into the basement and into the thousands of pipes and channels present in the RBMK design. This was credited with the sharp and unexplained drop in radiation during the later part of the Battle of Chernobyl.

The problem with Corium is that it is uncontrollable.. and if it comes in contact with a good moderator, and has the right geometry, it can undergo prompt criticality(rapid self sustaining nuclear reaction) and even explode. In both Chernobyl and Fukushima, there have been theories that prompt criticality occurred.

In Chernobyl, when the steam voids (areas where the coolant has been allowed to become super heated, you get a massive power increase) and because the Soviet RBMK reactor design uses a graphite moderated channel type deign (think of hundreds of small nuclear reactors all combined into one very big core for RBMK) it was still critical when the water was reduced. In all but the RBMK and the sodium reactor (nuclear subs and experimental systems) the moderator is water, so if it forms steam voids (bubbles or pockets of steam instead of water) the lack of moderation retards the reaction. In the soviet design, this was not the case and moderation continues even with water removed. As the reaction increased, it made more steam, which produced more power and so on..

This is called a positive feed back loop and what was unknown to the operators at the time was the RBMK design had a high positive void coefficient problem. When the operators noticed the huge spike in power, they scrammed the plant (S.C.R.A.M= Safety Cut Axe Man, to emergency stop and insert all rods to stop the reaction) It had an unintended effect. When the rods inserted, they displaced even more coolant in the channels and caused a massive increase in thermal power, exactly opposite of what they expected, and the control rods had graphite tips providing additional moderation. The first reports from the IAEA had stated that the explosion was caused by steam pressure alone, but the amount of force was so great that it blew a 2000 tonne concrete and steel bio-shield lid vertically into the air. Uncontrolled, prompt criticality can certainly generate the gigawatts of thermal energy (yes, it was measured in the control room as that high) needed for this level of kinetic thrust. Thus, the details for Chernobyl may now include criticality excursions in the timeline.

Prompt criticality excursions are the main reason why the gun-type design of the little boy design atomic bomb was rejected in favor of the implosion design. The chance that problems with the high explosive or purity of the physics package could cause the bomb to fizzle instead of go super critical was a deal breaker, even though it was the much easier to construct and design.

Spontainous prompt criticality is a major issue, and the reason why proper geometry (actual physical shape of cast materials) is so important, in Corium, you loose control of everything, including shape and moderation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to skitamura.sakura.ne.jp]

Forward to Japan,

There are many key indicators that do not pass the smell test for me.

1)Reported problems with the plant BEFORE the wave hit. (Stuxnet?)

2)4 Reactors building explosions, but only three reactors were fueled? Why was there an explosion in the offline plant? Official story stated that hydrogen from the other building. Modern plants like the GE Mark I have hermetically sealed containment buildings and controls for the remaining structure as well, ambient gasses to not just pass freely, even to the superficial structure housing the containment.

So why did the offline plant explode? The theory I subscribe to the most is prompt criticality from uncovered fuel in the spent fuel pool. So take please take note of this when officials tell you that nuclear plants can not and will not explode.. they can and have on both a large (Chernobyl and possibly Fukushima) and small scale (Sodium reactor test bed outside LA)

3)Neutron beams observed. (indicator of ongoing fission, and thus risk of more prompt criticality)

With Corium there is no control of geometry or reaction at all.. you get what you get, and if the conditions are right, you can get a big blast and lots of fission products released. The results of which would look a lot like what Perth is showing you.. not an earthquake, but a short pulse like an explosion. The super-heating of the surrounding ocean also indicates that the corium has reached the water table and we now have a bona fide "China Syndrome" underway.

The only thing missing would be the massive radiation increase and or steam-vents, if its under water (a moderator) then perhaps that explains the west coast die-offs and high strangeness.

Anyhow, sorry for the long post, I've tried my best to break down what he is getting at for those who are not familiar with the processes and terminology.. hope it has helped.

Thanks!

If you don's quite understand, wikipedia has more then you ever wanted to know, please start there...

On Chernobyl:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

On Nuclear power:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Quote from....

Thread: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...


carry on
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@BaHD X K
exeptionel guys! love that format K,almost like a conversation/interview!!
Reminded me of a Randy Powell interview on r/ice/rad, he talked about
sound escaping from a black-hole, essentially the density accelerating
the sound beyond the speed of light, wooo!!!
Archived @ Nov /12 @ 32mins if your interested,but well worth listening to all
(would link-it but don't think it would pass gestapo censoring)):
Jim-Ho
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I'll look for that, it sounds interesting!

Our whole notion of waves seems a little on the basic side.

I recall Cap'n had a lot to say on the subject, and had some brilliant links. The whole sympathetic vibrationary ideas, regardless of distance, and also break away harmonics within certain wave types is a whole month worth of mulling over, just to get your head in the right space!

I had a chat with Tutu a while back on some ideas I think Mud has been keen on, regarding the Sun NOT being the super hot, nuclear explosion cauldron we are told it is, rather it gives off waves, that are translated through our Van Alen belts and ionosphere in to heat that we sense.

Much like a particular part of a wave, when it hits our atmosphere being picked up as sound, or light, or radiation, or even a physical 'push'.

Thinking about the Sun like that turns it all on its head doesnt it? If it's not hot, then it could well be habbitable beneath that swirling mass of plasmic cloud we see on the stereos. Also changes what flares and sun spots might be too. Ships emerging? Planetoids emerging? A black hole kept in check, and shielding around it to stop the usual suck in?

Hasnt this been an interesting page!
 Quoting: BadHairDay


I'll say! An interesting big fat stack of pages.

So - the Sun - about 13 or so years ago I really got hooked on SOHO - it was pathetic how I'd just stare at it all the time. There was a reason for my behavior. There were these wild "sun cruisers", I think they were called, that looked like everything from UFOs to a ginormous crucifix (Happy Easter, btw). They were just zooming all around the sun and I was mesmerized (doesn't take much). One day, in a blinding flash of light, my intuition bopped me over the noggin and said, "Fool! your star is the off ramp of a wormhole in space!" So then I started wondering why these sun spots were all black - like, Dude, it's DARK in there! At that point I had to ignite the bubbler to calm myself down. That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it. Since then the Electric/Plasma Universe Theory has been made into an awesome vid.

But, BHD, I don't think anyone has set up housekeeping all up in there. I mean, would you want to set up your teepee in the middle of the freeway? I think not. Even though there's an awesome fire pit in the front yard.
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Good to see you gurl !!!! afro

Yes I agree that the sun is not what we are told she is since our childhood ...
I read somewhere that plasma-waves coming from our yellow-hello are only becoming "HOT" when they enter and mix with our atmosphere !
So outside our globe they are not what they are in here.
Thus it might indeed be so that the sun is not HOT at all,
and I also agree that inside the Sun there is a portal [wormhole] .
It is possible that changes IN the Sun (like incoming traffic/ships) determine the result and effects that we see as "sunspots" and "magnetic arcs and filaments" ...
Incoming traffic has an effect on the electric-magnetic chemistry and that is translated to the outer-surface.
I could imagine that "traffic" has to follow "rules" [19.48, Golden Mean-rules, see also the coil/donut of Randy powell]


xxxMzK

[Happy Easter every one !!!]

:bunny:
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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Nice numbers. Ya reckon they 'knew' we'd figure out the math one day?

I wonder if when that is well known and accepted if we will have disclosure?
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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Hmmm... Could that be why, historically, eclipses have been considered dangerous?

Aside from it just plain feeling weird and making the primitives think the sun got eaten... what if battles with alien rivals tended to happen on the heels of a full eclipse? Those civilizations are collapsed and gone, but the memory of terrifying air battles, etc. linger in myths of 'bad luck', illness and so on, following one.

Seems reasonable for a fringe ponderin'...
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Hi fellow researchers...I mean,fellow Bezerker's...heh!

Listen, I've run across something new to me and have been perplexing over it so thought I'd run it by you.

I ran across this:

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.


The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”


and here's a map of the 4 corners...red squares where it's high and yellow where it's low....

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]



and I'm talking about it in this thread
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?


A poster pointed out to me that the hollow earth could account for the low and high spots. That got me to thinking about all the tunnels, etc: under the ocean and earth....and of course, the gulf!

You know, when we are trying to figure out what's going on and determining effects, etc:, there are so many things to consider.

Anyway, I just wanted you to have this information about the corners....it may or may not influence whatever is going on in the gulf.

And if any of you have thoughts to share on my thread....please drop by. I think the more all of us can pull data together on these mysterious influences, the better.

Although, I really wonder if we will ever figure it out? And, maybe I'd rather not. After all, isn't chasing these mysteries fun? rockon

Love you guys....hope Easter and April Fool's were good times for ya'!!!!! hf
Happy Holidays! snowman
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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Justin, Justin, you smartypants you! You just made my head explode, my friend.
Now I have to clean up this mess before I can retire to the boudoir for the evening. Makes ye wonder who designed that bidniz. *swabs the deck*
You aren't over there munching monotomic gold are ye?
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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Nice numbers. Ya reckon they 'knew' we'd figure out the math one day?

I wonder if when that is well known and accepted if we will have disclosure?
It's all about the 'vibe'.

Hmmm... Could that be why, historically, eclipses have been considered dangerous?

Aside from it just plain feeling weird and making the primitives think the sun got eaten... what if battles with alien rivals tended to happen on the heels of a full eclipse? Those civilizations are collapsed and gone, but the memory of terrifying air battles, etc. linger in myths of 'bad luck', illness and so on, following one.

Seems reasonable for a fringe ponderin'...
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BAHD, you know as well as all-us the "vibe" here is lies, deception, more lies!
We been eatin this shite for at least 2000 years (proly 6 imo) any bones of
disclosure they toss "will-be-was" imho!
As for the math I always found the poetry of Venus a bit of a stretch, i mean
"the" most accurate predictor of time in the celestial close-by, traces a
perfect pentagram of motion over a period of 8 years, every five cycles
(40 years) synchronizes solar, lunar and the sidereal calendar's to-within
seconds, more exquisite "coincidences" ???
Of-course we can add her to south's list of good-bad-luck predictors
especially considering the masterpiece of precision engineering of
Bryn Celli Ddu and Newgrange, both built to trace Venus-light every 8 years!!

Soo we is fringe pond-life eh, south?o))

Jim-Ho!
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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.

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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.
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im in tears- thanks for your help dubya

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here's a think muncher for ya's ;))
You know that old pony about what an exquisite "COINCIDENCE" it is that the sun is exactly 400 times bigger than the moon and that the sun is exactly 400 times further out than the moon, so making "only" in these circumstances a
total eclipse possible? and that said moon always hides its back-side
from us, so making it very private round there??
Now say you had a star-gate in the sun and you only ever used it at times of total-eclipse! a base on the dark side, how discreet would that be!!

Justin Miho
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Justin, Justin, you smartypants you! You just made my head explode, my friend.
Now I have to clean up this mess before I can retire to the boudoir for the evening. Makes ye wonder who designed that bidniz. *swabs the deck*
You aren't over there munching monotomic gold are ye?
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We is walkin on gold here darlin, rivers are runnin with it, crushed quartz crunches a rythem as you step, ozone's so thick that it just takes your mind away
my poor old think-muncher gots enuf spin-state without no-mo mon-atom!
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There has to be a head slap moment, when the lights get switched on, or a ship lands, or the bloke standing next to you pulls off his mask and states - "we were right here the whole time guys, you just werent ready to see us".



I see you met Ez'. When I feel things are complicated, I go and read and see what Ez' is posting, and I feel a bit better. There is so much going on in that single head. Amazing to watch.
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im in tears- thanks for your help dubya

smile_hear odance
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Yo to that guys!
Eez dont no it but his back story is soo same as mine, walks my girls every day
(Ishtar & Vesta) through a fog of neg-ions around a huge mega-lith,
somedays we touches subtler realities and if we're really on, we gets a big wooo
of knowing! aaaaaah!!
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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
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I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
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Yep, Corium is a delicious mixture of nuclear fuel, zircaloy cladding, containment vessel wall, concrete and a sprinkle of control rod for taste..

Think of it as a molten blob of white hot metal that is self-heating.. It sometimes flows into pipes and other container like structures under the pull of gravity due to it's multi-tonne weight. After Chernobyl was encased in it's new building.. the team drilled into the reactor vessel itself to ascertain the condition of the nuclear fuel.. to their surprise they found none.. turns out it flowed into the basement and into the thousands of pipes and channels present in the RBMK design. This was credited with the sharp and unexplained drop in radiation during the later part of the Battle of Chernobyl.

The problem with Corium is that it is uncontrollable.. and if it comes in contact with a good moderator, and has the right geometry, it can undergo prompt criticality(rapid self sustaining nuclear reaction) and even explode. In both Chernobyl and Fukushima, there have been theories that prompt criticality occurred.

In Chernobyl, when the steam voids (areas where the coolant has been allowed to become super heated, you get a massive power increase) and because the Soviet RBMK reactor design uses a graphite moderated channel type deign (think of hundreds of small nuclear reactors all combined into one very big core for RBMK) it was still critical when the water was reduced. In all but the RBMK and the sodium reactor (nuclear subs and experimental systems) the moderator is water, so if it forms steam voids (bubbles or pockets of steam instead of water) the lack of moderation retards the reaction. In the soviet design, this was not the case and moderation continues even with water removed. As the reaction increased, it made more steam, which produced more power and so on..

This is called a positive feed back loop and what was unknown to the operators at the time was the RBMK design had a high positive void coefficient problem. When the operators noticed the huge spike in power, they scrammed the plant (S.C.R.A.M= Safety Cut Axe Man, to emergency stop and insert all rods to stop the reaction) It had an unintended effect. When the rods inserted, they displaced even more coolant in the channels and caused a massive increase in thermal power, exactly opposite of what they expected, and the control rods had graphite tips providing additional moderation. The first reports from the IAEA had stated that the explosion was caused by steam pressure alone, but the amount of force was so great that it blew a 2000 tonne concrete and steel bio-shield lid vertically into the air. Uncontrolled, prompt criticality can certainly generate the gigawatts of thermal energy (yes, it was measured in the control room as that high) needed for this level of kinetic thrust. Thus, the details for Chernobyl may now include criticality excursions in the timeline.

Prompt criticality excursions are the main reason why the gun-type design of the little boy design atomic bomb was rejected in favor of the implosion design. The chance that problems with the high explosive or purity of the physics package could cause the bomb to fizzle instead of go super critical was a deal breaker, even though it was the much easier to construct and design.

Spontainous prompt criticality is a major issue, and the reason why proper geometry (actual physical shape of cast materials) is so important, in Corium, you loose control of everything, including shape and moderation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to skitamura.sakura.ne.jp]

Forward to Japan,

There are many key indicators that do not pass the smell test for me.

1)Reported problems with the plant BEFORE the wave hit. (Stuxnet?)

2)4 Reactors building explosions, but only three reactors were fueled? Why was there an explosion in the offline plant? Official story stated that hydrogen from the other building. Modern plants like the GE Mark I have hermetically sealed containment buildings and controls for the remaining structure as well, ambient gasses to not just pass freely, even to the superficial structure housing the containment.

So why did the offline plant explode? The theory I subscribe to the most is prompt criticality from uncovered fuel in the spent fuel pool. So take please take note of this when officials tell you that nuclear plants can not and will not explode.. they can and have on both a large (Chernobyl and possibly Fukushima) and small scale (Sodium reactor test bed outside LA)

3)Neutron beams observed. (indicator of ongoing fission, and thus risk of more prompt criticality)

With Corium there is no control of geometry or reaction at all.. you get what you get, and if the conditions are right, you can get a big blast and lots of fission products released. The results of which would look a lot like what Perth is showing you.. not an earthquake, but a short pulse like an explosion. The super-heating of the surrounding ocean also indicates that the corium has reached the water table and we now have a bona fide "China Syndrome" underway.

The only thing missing would be the massive radiation increase and or steam-vents, if its under water (a moderator) then perhaps that explains the west coast die-offs and high strangeness.

Anyhow, sorry for the long post, I've tried my best to break down what he is getting at for those who are not familiar with the processes and terminology.. hope it has helped.

Thanks!

If you don's quite understand, wikipedia has more then you ever wanted to know, please start there...

On Chernobyl:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

On Nuclear power:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Quote from....

Thread: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...


carry on
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I dont see the problem with the water temp ...
there is pink and red in the waters surrounding Northern Europe too !!! Thats becoz it is COLD here, its still WINTER temps.
So who sais that the waters around Japan are HOT, they could be COLD too ... I remember reading they had major snowfalls ;)

With this I dont say that the corium-side of the story couldnt be true ...
But in my opinion there is nothing abnormal with the water (winter) temps :)


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not trying to deflect a serious discusion but on a related issue......

What is a "Corium quake"?
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I didn't know what corium was.. This may help those like me.

[link to enformable.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36484566


SNIP

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


Quote from....

Thread: Fukushima... Corium quake??? activity right now..... sea temp unbelievable...


carry on
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I dont see the problem with the water temp ...
there is pink and red in the waters surrounding Northern Europe too !!! Thats becoz it is COLD here, its still WINTER temps.

So who sais that the waters around Japan are HOT, they could be COLD too ... I remember reading they had major snowfalls ;)

With this I dont say that the corium-side of the story couldnt be true ...
But in my opinion there is nothing abnormal with the water (winter) temps :)


xxxK
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?
[link to weather.unisys.com]
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Grumpy was interested in this aspect too, on VC.

More interested in the radiation link, rather than the deep drilling side I tried to bring to the forefront.

One thing on temp sites I am not 100% sure about is what is the sattelite actually measuring? Surface temp? If it scans ocean, obviously there are multiple layers of temps, including ground temp at the bottom.

Which one is it measuring?
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I think the only way you could actually come across as an anon would be to get someone else to type your crap, off a note you had typed in plain text first, so your emotions dont come to prominence so much. It's that side of you that keeps coming through. The problem living with empaths is that all they see IS emotion, so its easy to zone in on what the person looks like who wrote the note, and once you compare it to another you know someone wrote, and they say thats them, you're busted, again. Just stop wasting your effort and energy, and let me do my thang here, and I'll do the same for you.

>> thanks for the neg karma, again.

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Carnival Triumph breaks loose from repair berth; man reported missing

(CNN) -- One person was missing Wednesday afternoon after high winds in Mobile, Alabama, caused the disabled cruise ship Carnival Triumph to break loose from its dock, officials said.

There were conflicting reports as to where the missing man was working.

An official with the city's fire department said the missing man and another person were in a guard shack that was blown into Mobile River. One man has been recovered from the water.

However, the Coast Guard said the missing person was involved in repair work on the Triumph. The call to the Coast Guard came in at 1:45 p.m. CT.

Carnival spokeswoman Joyce Oliva said all of the company's crew members and contractors on the ship have been accounted for.

Wind gusts reached between 40 and 50 miles per hour Wednesday, according to the National Weather Service in Mobile.

The Triumph has been at BAE Shipyard in the Port of Mobile since an engine fire in February left the cruise ship crippled and adrift in the Gulf of Mexico with more than 4,200 people aboard. For four days, tugboats guided the disabled ship into the port as passengers complained about miserable conditions on board.

On Wednesday, it drifted across the shipyard after breaking free. Tugboats kept it from drifting farther down river, the Coast Guard said.

CNN affiliate WKRG reported the cruise ship had a hole on the right side of the stern.

Carnival said in late March the ship would be out of service until June 3. In addition to repairs, workers will increase the number of systems and services that the Triumph and other Carnival ships can run on backup power.

Wednesday's incident was the latest in several headline-making issues for one of the world's leading cruise lines. Four of the company's 23 ships have had problems in recent months.

The cruise line has offered affected passengers refunds and discounts on future cruises.

It faces a class-action lawsuit in the face of the Triumph's last cruise when passengers reported that food was scarce, cruise goers sweltered in the heat with no air conditioning, toilets overflowed and human waste ran down the walls in some parts of the ship.

The problems have also prompted one U.S. lawmaker to propose a "Cruise Ship Passenger Bill of Rights."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said he was asking the cruise industry to voluntarily sign on to a list of guidelines, including the right to backup power if generators fail and the right to disembark a docked ship "if basic provisions cannot adequately be provided on board."

He also called on the International Maritime Organization to investigate whether cruise lines are following existing guidelines, and whether existing standards are being enforced by countries where cruise ships that serve U.S. passengers are based.

"Cruise ships, in large part operating outside the bounds of United States enforcement, have become the Wild West of the travel industry, and it's time to rein them in before anyone else gets hurt," Schumer said in a statement. "This bill of rights, based on work we've done with the airline industry, will ensure that passengers aren't forced to live in third world conditions or put their lives at risk when they go on vacation."


**** also the hot rumour about this and other cruise ships that mysteriously have lost power, especially those employing elecrtic 'pod' motors or electric bow and stern thrusters, is that when brought back to port, the entire ship has had to be encircled with a steel anchor chain, that is dragged from bow to stern, in order to 'degauss' them.

What would be charging these huge vessels up to the point where they have become magnetised? Where does all this take place?

Sounds like a familiar story?!!!!

Now bring in U3's thread, and its gettin interesting!!

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Thread: FAA issues "no-fly" zone over Arkansas oil spill.


Minor pipeline rupture? Why issue a no fly zone.

[link to tfr.faa.gov]
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Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Hi fellow researchers...I mean,fellow Bezerker's...heh!

Listen, I've run across something new to me and have been perplexing over it so thought I'd run it by you.

I ran across this:

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.


The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”


and here's a map of the 4 corners...red squares where it's high and yellow where it's low....

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]



and I'm talking about it in this thread
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?


A poster pointed out to me that the hollow earth could account for the low and high spots. That got me to thinking about all the tunnels, etc: under the ocean and earth....and of course, the gulf!

You know, when we are trying to figure out what's going on and determining effects, etc:, there are so many things to consider.

Anyway, I just wanted you to have this information about the corners....it may or may not influence whatever is going on in the gulf.

And if any of you have thoughts to share on my thread....please drop by. I think the more all of us can pull data together on these mysterious influences, the better.

Although, I really wonder if we will ever figure it out? And, maybe I'd rather not. After all, isn't chasing these mysteries fun? rockon

Love you guys....hope Easter and April Fool's were good times for ya'!!!!! hf
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Bruce Cathie, a New Zealander, is the guy to talk to about such matters.
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Minor pipeline rupture? Why issue a no fly zone.

[link to tfr.faa.gov]
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Maybe this:

Thread: UPDATE......Louisiana lightning tonight...pretty intense...STRANGE PULSATING GLOW IN DISTANCE...VIDS!!!!!!!

Check out the 36 second video posted at 11pm last night. The pulsating red looks something like the flight-view of the possible China nuclear explosion posted several years ago
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Hi fellow researchers...I mean,fellow Bezerker's...heh!

Listen, I've run across something new to me and have been perplexing over it so thought I'd run it by you.

I ran across this:

Earth Has Four Corners.”

Quoting from this article, which was recovered from microfilm at the Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak Library, we read the following: “The Earth has four corners, measurements made of earth-circling satellites have shown…The four-cornered, or pyramid-like, design was found by calculating the changes in the orbits of globe-girdling satellites. At the center of the high points, the satellites were pulled downward a few hundred feet by the unexpectedly high gravity…The new figure for earth was found by scientists at John Hopkin’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Silver Spring, Md., working under a contract for the U.S. Navy’s Bureau of Naval Weapons.”

The report included a world map that shows all four of the Earth’s high corners are located in the Earth’s oceans and that there are also four low spots, which are additionally found in the vast oceans. Each of the high spots covers several thousand square miles of ocean and were a staggering 220 feet “higher” than what the equalized average depth of the ocean should be in that area. The low points on the other hand are apx. 253 feet “below” [what should be] the stabilized oceans average.


The perplexing question is, “What is holding back these seething mountains of water from rushing to fill the low spots?”


and here's a map of the 4 corners...red squares where it's high and yellow where it's low....

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]



and I'm talking about it in this thread
Thread: Bermuda Triangle, Dragon's Triangle, 4 Corners of the Earth:Is there a correlation?


A poster pointed out to me that the hollow earth could account for the low and high spots. That got me to thinking about all the tunnels, etc: under the ocean and earth....and of course, the gulf!

You know, when we are trying to figure out what's going on and determining effects, etc:, there are so many things to consider.

Anyway, I just wanted you to have this information about the corners....it may or may not influence whatever is going on in the gulf.

And if any of you have thoughts to share on my thread....please drop by. I think the more all of us can pull data together on these mysterious influences, the better.

Although, I really wonder if we will ever figure it out? And, maybe I'd rather not. After all, isn't chasing these mysteries fun? rockon

Love you guys....hope Easter and April Fool's were good times for ya'!!!!! hf
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Bruce Cathie, a New Zealander, is the guy to talk to about such matters.
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Snap! just mentioned Bruce on his thread.
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