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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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I miss House Dad sumthin' fierce.

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He was a little too good at digging methinks, and dug up something he didnt like the taste of.

Hope your bro' and his friends are OK Tutes.

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Quite an article, which came out in Newsweek, evidently.
It's long, but well worth the read!

What BP Doesn’t Want You to Know About the 2010 Gulf Spill

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

"Not only did BP fail to inform workers of the potential hazards of Corexit and to provide them with safety training and protective gear, according to interviews with dozens of cleanup workers, the company also allegedly threatened to fire workers who complained about the lack of respirators and protective clothing.

“I worked with probably a couple hundred different fishermen on the [cleanup],” Acy Cooper, Guidry’s second in command, tells me in Venice, the coastal town from which many VoO vessels departed. “Not one of them got any safety information or training concerning the toxic materials they encountered.” Cooper says that BP did provide workers with body suits and gloves designed for handling hazardous materials. “But when I’d talk with [the BP representative] about getting my guys respirators and air monitors, I’d never get any response.”

Roughly 58 percent of the 1.84 million gallons of Corexit used in the cleanup was sprayed onto the gulf from C-130 airplanes. The spray sometimes ended up hitting cleanup workers in the face.

“Our boat was sprayed four times,” says Jorey Danos, a 32-year-old father of three who suffered racking coughing fits, severe fatigue, and memory loss after working on the BP cleanup. “I could see the stuff coming out of the plane—like a shower of mist, a smoky color. I could see [it] coming at me, but there was nothing I could do.”

“The next day,” Danos continues, “when the BP rep came around on his speed boat, I asked, ‘Hey, what’s the deal with that stuff that was coming out of those planes yesterday?’ He told me, ‘Don’t worry about it.’ I said, ‘Man, that s--t was burning my face—it ain’t right.’ He said, ‘Don’t worry about it.’ I said, ‘Well, could we get some respirators or something, because that s--t is bad.’ He said, ‘No, that wouldn’t look good to the media. You got two choices: you can either be relieved of your duties or you can deal with it.’”"

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Got a phone call today from a bytch acquaintance who, among other things, was complaining that her BP royalty checks have been down about 80% from what they were a few years ago.

I am amazed that BP can send any checks at all.
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May I ask a favour?

When posting quotes, and using multiple quotes, can you be very carefull with 'snips' and deleting parts, as the consequences can oftem mean that someone is incorrectly quoted or attributed to a post.

Down the track it can cause .. issues.
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Toooooooootally agree with that !!!!

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Thats why I always put my name/signature under important postings,
if the copying failed then its always proof of being written by me, unless they snip my name too ...lol...


xxxMzK
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Issues .... too, when authors amend their posts without noting the terms of the amendment. Often makes subsequent posters appear to be off-track.
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Whhooaa! this vid from Lex on one of the explosion threads...


It's the High Flyer...

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Had no idea the Texas thing had happened before, almost in identical fashion.

Wonder if the ships exploding has similar history and connection?
Are the Carnival cruise ships bringing something back from the GoM in to these water ways?

The latest ship was reportedly degaussed with a massive chain being dragged around and across its body, suggesting it was magnetised, and why no electric motors (bow and stern thrusters, pumps for toilets etc) would work.

That Cruise ships have constantly been associate with this thread is no coincicdence I think, nor is the coincidence of a Carnival cruise ship being so close to the explosion today.
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The Texas thing looks like an even-Steven event, in spite of the Matrix kitty slipped into the video.

Monsanto's then, Monsanto's rival now. (was suing Monsanto)
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the average age of a car in America is 11 years, so yes, you are going to have to replace alternators, etc.
You're overdoing it a little don't you think?


Yes you might have a point there ...

the magnetised field of the ship could have ignited or influenced things in the harbour to go vavoem.
<snipped>

xxxMzK
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Something else I have been seeing here... LOTS of STRONG static electricity!

It has been so bad that touching the car door as I am getting out can actually Hurt! Last night I got too near the door with the keys and a bright arc nailed me despite my care not to touch it. grr lol

Many have been complaining about it and the phones are having issues too... no reception or spotty with both cells and land lines. Add in dying batteries and all sorts of mechanical failures(alternators, starters, generators, etc.)...
More and more things that make you go hmmmmm.

hi

Didn't see this before posting!
Sure doesn't surprise me.

When the explosions first happened in Mobile, someone (an "official", don't remember who) said it was a static electricity charge. It will be interesting to see what they finally conclude.

What I am noticing is explosions occur as the dying throes of old, archaic energy are released as an asbtract world emerges.

(That's my 2 cents!) afro
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-[snipped other quotes]-

I have, if oranges and lemons consist of dangerous particles.

For some reason, beginning last fall after the citrus crop came on the market, I became violently ill eating oranges, which I've eaten all my life. A few weeks ago, having forgotten about my newly acquired allergy, I ate a lemon and became violently ill. What's up with that? I won't be eating oranges or lemons again.

For some reason, there is no negative effect from eating grapefruit.
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Have you looked where the oranges and lemon were grown ?
And where the grapefruit came from ?

Grapefruit is not cultivated in such big quantities as the other 2.
It could make a difference from which country they came from and which pesticides were used during cultivation or for transport.
I would not want to eat anything native American with all that corexit & oil in the water and atmosphere ...



xxxMzK
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Florida citrus and well-washed before eating. Could be the Corexit, et al. Dunno. Doc said I appeared to have acquired an "allergy." Certainly can't eat fruit and veggies from Cali, too much Fuku on the produce.

We get Valencias from Spain. Excepting that, usually no citrus from other countries in our local grocery stores. Prolly won't try attempt to eat any next season.

"Indian River" citrus from Florida has, in the past, been wonderful tasting fruit.
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May I ask a favour?

When posting quotes, and using multiple quotes, can you be very carefull with 'snips' and deleting parts, as the consequences can oftem mean that someone is incorrectly quoted or attributed to a post.

Down the track it can cause .. issues.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Toooooooootally agree with that !!!!

thumbsup



Thats why I always put my name/signature under important postings,
if the copying failed then its always proof of being written by me, unless they snip my name too ...lol...


xxxMzK
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Issues .... too, when authors amend their posts without noting the terms of the amendment. Often makes subsequent posters appear to be off-track.
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Yeah, best to say something up front, so it is there for all to see.

Mind you... I'm guilty of throwing up for days when I find an anomaly I dont like.

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GOM update from Gabe's thread:

HuffPost: Countless Gulf residents with symptoms as if from sci-fi horror film — Bleeding from ears, anus, breasts
Title: Corexit, Oil Dispersant Used By BP, Is Destroying Gulf Marine Life, Scientists Say
Source: Huffington Post
Author: TakePart’s David Kirby
Date: April 25, 2013 at 5:02p ET

[...] In April 2012, Louisiana State University’s Department of Oceanography and Coastal Sciences was finding lesions and grotesque deformities in sea life—including millions of shrimp with no eyes and crabs without eyes or claws—possibly linked to oil and dispersants. [...]

EcoRigs divers took water and marine life samples at several locations in the months following the blowout. Now, they and countless other Gulf residents are sick, with symptoms resembling something from a sci-fi horror film, including bleeding from the nose, ears, breasts, and even anus. Others complain of cognitive damage, including what one man calls getting “stuck stupid,” when he temporarily cannot move or speak, but can still hear. [...]

[EcoRigs founder Steve Kolian'a] team has done studies of their own to alarming results. “We recently submitted a paper showing levels of hydrocarbons in seafood were up to 3,000 times higher than safety thresholds for human consumption,” he said. [...]
[link to enenews.com]

Prayers for you EC hf
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[[snipped post]]

PS - hey Tutes, did you see the 'ERK' article on the previous page? Was a little surprised no-one has twigged to it's relevance. Kinda erking me... LOL!
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Hay, BHD

Can you kindly post the ERK article you referred as it would be interesting and useful if BEZERKERS
could see what relevance actually erked you!

Thanks,

Integrator

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Integrator, whats with that middle-finger icon ????
Never ever use that on me or you will get to know my super mega Bossy-Beetroot ;)

xxxMzBB
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@ Integrator
Why you ask for the link to the article when its in BHD's post ?



Same protein that fires up cancer-promoting Erk also blocks its activation

A protein which is intimately involved in cancer-promoting cell signaling also keeps a key component of the signaling pathway tied down and inactive, a team led by scientists from The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center reports this week in Nature Structural Molecular Biology.

Shc, pronounced "schick," plays a key role in activating signals which lead to cell proliferation (and cancer) when cells are stimulated, however it unexpectedly turns out to be a tumor-suppressor, keeping Erk under wraps when a cell is less active, said senior author John Ladbury, Ph.D., professor in MD Anderson's Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology.

"Shc is a checkpoint to prevent out of control cell growth, binding to Erk when a cell is not being stimulated by growth factors," Ladbury said. "Otherwise, the lower-level background signaling that's always present in a cell would be uncontrolled."

Keeping Erk in check while the cell idles

Overexpression of Erk occurs in many types of cancer, including ovarian and prostate cancer and Hodgkin lymphoma, so cellular control of its activity is important.

In the absence of external stimulation by growth factors, cells remain active but lower levels of cell signaling occur, which Ladbury compares to a car idling, ready to roll. Under these conditions control mechanisms are in place to prevent the cell kicking into gear. Shc turns out to be one of these controllers.

"We're essentially looking at the cell in a resting, but ready, state," Ladbury said. "I would argue that's probably more like a cell behaves in tissue, it's not normally getting a slug of growth factors as is often the way when we investigate signaling in experiments in the lab. There's still a lot going on in the cell, basically background activity."

These findings point to a number of therapeutic possibilities, including the measurement of Shc concentration levels as a diagnostic tool and of finding small molecule drugs that block growth-factor signaling to Shc, keeping it bound to Erk, Ladbury noted.

Growth factors provide double boost for Erk

When the appropriate growth factor receptor is stimulated Erk is activated in the MAP Kinase pathway. It dives into the cell nucleus and turns on a variety of genes, actions that contribute to cancer proliferation, blood vessel production and metastasis when signaling is out of control.

When receptor tyrosine kinases on the cell surface connect with growth factors, they normally send a signal via Shc that sets off a chain of actions leading to Erk activation. Ladbury and colleagues looked at Shc's connections to epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) signaling.

The team found in mammalian cell lines that:

•Under non-stimulated conditions Shc binds to Erk in the cell cytoplasm at binding sites that are unique on both proteins.
•Stimulation via EGFR reduces this connection, but not by competing with Shc at the Shc-Erk binding site.
•Instead, on stimulation from outside the cells, EGFR adds phosphate groups to itself at specific sites. One of these forms a binding for Shc, which distorts the protein's shape, making it impossible for Erk to bind.
•Overexpression of Shc decreases the amount of activated Erk, because Shc mops up free Erk molecules.
•Depleting Shc expression with short hairpin RNA resulted in higher levels of activated Erk.
•When separated from Shc, Erk moves into the nucleus and activates genes even when the cell is not receiving a stimulus. Thus without the controlling influence of Shc, Erk can run riot in the cell giving rise to unrestrained cell reproduction.
Shc-Erk connection confirmed

Ladbury and colleagues then tested their results in the C.Elegans, a worm model frequently employed in biological research. Both Shc and Erk are greatly similar between humans and the worms.

Experiments showed that Shc blocks Erk function by sequestering it away from the Ras-Raf-Mek MAPK pathway in the worms. Without the Shc-Erk connection, the MAPK pathway is activated, causing excessive Erk activation.

EGFR stimulation not only sets off the normal activation of Erk via Shc and the MAPK pathway, Ladbury said, but also frees Erk for greater availability for activation by breaking the tie to Shc.

[link to phys.org]

There's the last half.

[HD, where for art thou HD?]
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me?a shit stirrer? sheesh... I'm hurt...


now c'mon...who told ya about recombinante gene splicin'huh?

sheesh...

who toldya about polypeptides n stuff, aggregation n stuff..

huh?
cruise

talk about you havin a fuckin "bad hair day"...try th elittle fuckers growin in ya! cruise

not funny hatall...

anyway...

the'turgidity of mater' is all Im gonna say since ya wont come and have a beer!

cruise
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one moar ting...@ tutes...full healing to your brothers mate.
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No need to worry too much about TUTU, my friend ~ she's due another kiss from Roxy (French, rockon) or, one of the other ladies ...
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Hey Rastus! OK, next I'm down -

- beers
- fishing
- op' shop hunting (am obsessed)
- good chat
- maybe a spethal toffee, or equivalent

That is a PROMISE.

Hey, and in no way was I makin' light of your affliction.
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high hi Toots !



buzurkin and perkin

that's why I'm a lurkin.


Kudos 2 all ! flowas
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Howdy Ahim-sa. Hope you're well.
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Do you guys remember the astronauts training in caves?

Also remember the astronauts training underwater off Florida?

I've been looking for historical sinkholes around the GoM, especially in Florida, that might link the odd astronaut stories, as I think there may be a connection. I also think there is a connection to this closer to Mexico, with all the caves and sinkholes and caverns there.

I found a 1981 article on a Lake that lost water inexplicably, and it mentions many other lakes that have drained, plus caves and caverns beneath Florida.

[link to news.google.com]

Might be nothing, might be a window in to why/where this is leading. Using astronauts, who have rather specific training to go diving and caving... suggests there are things going on beneath the ground of an unEarthly nature, maybe even of a temporal nature.

Hmmm, BlueETs work springs to mind.
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fwiw,

Visited the famous DeKalb Farmer's Market in Atlanta today. This market offers choices from more than 500 cheeses from around the world, an enormous selection of imported vegetables alongside local produce, a huge meat market including buffalo and goat, and an extra-ordinary fish market with selections of fresh and frozen fish and shellfish from the earth's waters.

Most amazing, in this large, very Southern city, is the huge bank of cashiers who speak to customers in languages I've never known about. There appeared to be more than 50 check-out clerks with each fluent in a particular language or dialect. No pictures or videos are allowed to be taken inside the market or in the very large room utilized as checkout.

It's been a couple years since I've been to the DeKalb Market. Noticeably different is the selection of fish and shellfish. Much of the fish is now from Brazil or Costa Rica. Did not see anything from the northern pacific area. Only a couple of species from Florida, one being "Moon" fish. The only thing I saw from the GOM was good looking, large shrimp. That is all. Amazing, since the GOM was once a major source of fish for us at this market. There was lobster from Maine and a couple types of fish from "Virginia." Didn't see anything noted being from the Atlantic.

I could have missed some species because the market is large.
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Thanks for taking the time to write that. Real time, on the ground reports and info is so hard to come by.

If I ever go to the States, I'd love to visit this place.
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Interesting tidbit -

"Three separate PNE tests were carried out to assess the ability of nuclear explosions to stimulate gas production from low-permeability formations. These were Gasbuggy (December 1967, New Mexico: 29 kilotons), Rusilon (September 1969, Colorado: 43 kilotons) and Rio Blanco (May 1973, Colorado: 3 blasts of 33 kilotons each at depths of 1600-2100 metres using charges 195 mm diameter). Rio Blanco also marked the end of the US PNE test program. It was already known that conventional explosions could stimulate production of gas, and the use of nuclear explosives just added to the overall force of the explosion. While the level of gas production from the tests was less than expected, it would have been sufficient to make the process commercially viable if the resulting gas had not been considered too radiologically contaminated by tritium for saled".


PNE = Peaceful Nuclear Event/Explosion
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i live in gulf shores, alabama(on the gulf coast, eastern shore of mobile bay). i wouldn't eat anything caught in the GOM. i just wish people could see what washes ashore here, 3 yrs after the spill- tarballs, tons of the brown corexit sludge, dead fish, bioluminescent organisms in the sand, etc. something unholy is going on in the gulf...i've seen things i can't explain...weird things. There's been a lot of activity lately with large vessels and lots of new derricks close to the shore and in the bay. We've had 2 earthquakes since the spill- the epicenters were in orange beach and mobile bay. And fwiw, my ears started ringing like crazy around the time of the spill(it isn't tinnitus).
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thank you for clarifying.

as a ...lurker/reader of the thread, you know half of what you said just isnt correct regards how 'i see things'.

i'll admit, my last post was a bit of a 'long line' in hopes of 'catching' the eye of some of the old guard.

i did not intend the word 'players' to represent anything other than people who have been involved. the evony reference, and significance, i sometimes forget, as i was not in any way involved in that.

- my arse was getting sore on that pointy picket fence remember? me being "a 'nice guy' and all, but lacking conviction or any clear idea on what was going on. a person not to be trusted..........." i still have the 'accidentally' included email. that knife may have been removed, but that scar hasnt healed. who leaked that... let me see... (yes, yes, oh so dramatic)

so, hand on heart, the vids we watched are not contrived or created to suggest what was always warned against? circular logic?

the 'last post' function would suggest only a month back, there was activity, where as the ban and subsequent refund of subscription was supposed to occur way befor that. i have not been on ch a ni for months, (in any form) and that was where the info came from. originally.

been careful with my words "pitching a fit" not so careful hi
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'how you see things'.. is just a matter of personal/individual perspective. Nothing wrong with that. Why do you want to 'catch the eye' of the 'old guard', as if they could inject any 'new' info (intel) into the discussion...they can't... there isn't any. I know nothing of any 'accidental email', and frankly, the back channels are usually what get us in trouble anyway. I stay clear of it. Most of what goes on here (and elsewhere) stems from 'circular logic', it is the nature of conspiracy sites. Are you saying that your account at C had activity one month ago, and you have been banned for several months? I don't keep up with those matters. If you were banned, it was for a justifiable reason, again all a matter of perspective. I did choose my words carefully.
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Hey Rastus! OK, next I'm down -

- beers
- fishing
- op' shop hunting (am obsessed)
- good chat
- maybe a spethal toffee, or equivalent

That is a PROMISE.

Hey, and in no way was I makin' light of your affliction.
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sokay man..just fink ov me as a livin self reportin petri dish

cruise
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thank you for clarifying.

as a ...lurker/reader of the thread, you know half of what you said just isnt correct regards how 'i see things'.

i'll admit, my last post was a bit of a 'long line' in hopes of 'catching' the eye of some of the old guard.

i did not intend the word 'players' to represent anything other than people who have been involved. the evony reference, and significance, i sometimes forget, as i was not in any way involved in that.

- my arse was getting sore on that pointy picket fence remember? me being "a 'nice guy' and all, but lacking conviction or any clear idea on what was going on. a person not to be trusted..........." i still have the 'accidentally' included email. that knife may have been removed, but that scar hasnt healed. who leaked that... let me see... (yes, yes, oh so dramatic)

so, hand on heart, the vids we watched are not contrived or created to suggest what was always warned against? circular logic?

the 'last post' function would suggest only a month back, there was activity, where as the ban and subsequent refund of subscription was supposed to occur way befor that. i have not been on ch a ni for months, (in any form) and that was where the info came from. originally.

been careful with my words "pitching a fit" not so careful hi
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'how you see things'.. is just a matter of personal/individual perspective. Nothing wrong with that. Why do you want to 'catch the eye' of the 'old guard', as if they could inject any 'new' info (intel) into the discussion...they can't... there isn't any. I know nothing of any 'accidental email', and frankly, the back channels are usually what get us in trouble anyway. I stay clear of it. Most of what goes on here (and elsewhere) stems from 'circular logic', it is the nature of conspiracy sites. Are you saying that your account at C had activity one month ago, and you have been banned for several months? I don't keep up with those matters. If you were banned, it was for a justifiable reason, again all a matter of perspective. I did choose my words carefully.
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Yeah that was a wierd moment. Why'd you pop that up integrator? Know somethun I dont?
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Do you guys remember the astronauts training in caves?

Also remember the astronauts training underwater off Florida?

I've been looking for historical sinkholes around the GoM, especially in Florida, that might link the odd astronaut stories, as I think there may be a connection. I also think there is a connection to this closer to Mexico, with all the caves and sinkholes and caverns there.

I found a 1981 article on a Lake that lost water inexplicably, and it mentions many other lakes that have drained, plus caves and caverns beneath Florida.

[link to news.google.com]

Might be nothing, might be a window in to why/where this is leading. Using astronauts, who have rather specific training to go diving and caving... suggests there are things going on beneath the ground of an unEarthly nature, maybe even of a temporal nature.

Hmmm, BlueETs work springs to mind.
 Quoting: BadHairDay

I am curious where you are going with this ... banana2


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Are the aruba and nassau islands sinking now or...with a cow print on that tit line ?
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Atlantis is too far behind ..l

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