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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Show that was on last night, French woman , the CEO of a firm that builds Nuclear Reactors for other countries. One of the last comments she made, "we can make the power, but where do we store the surplus?" It made me think of all this, using the Gulf to store carbon. I realize it doesn't work that way, but I thought the analogy was interesting.
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g'nite ms.Krispy...I love your special smileys....and your brain power too
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Forgot something. Don't ever underestimate the need for a canteen that will work with the gas mask. Get one that is set up of a canteen and get the canteen. Keep it filled for preparedness, and wash and change the water every month in storage.

I could go on forever about preparedness and STHF stuff, but that is not for this thread.
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I'm pretty deep into it also. Made alot of changes in the last two years to get better situated.
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This is the reason that we are getting "intelligent" meters installed in all our homes. (No you didn't order it, the power company installs their own.)

These next generation meters will allow usage only when power and storage facilities decide that it's best. In other words, you'll get it when they want you to have it. If they don't want you to have any, they'll hit the "kill-switch."

You know, kinda like the "kill-switch" evilBP is supposed to have designed into its out-of-control, every-morphing algae.


Show that was on last night, French woman , the CEO of a firm that builds Nuclear Reactors for other countries. One of the last comments she made, "we can make the power, but where do we store the surplus?" It made me think of all this, using the Gulf to store carbon. I realize it doesn't work that way, but I thought the analogy was interesting.
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This is the reason that we are getting "intelligent" meters installed in all our homes. (No you didn't order it, the power company installs their own.)

These next generation meters will allow usage only when power and storage facilities decide that it's best. In other words, you'll get it when they want you to have it. If they don't want you to have any, they'll hit the "kill-switch."

You know, kinda like the "kill-switch" evilBP is supposed to have designed into its out-of-control, every-morphing algae.



Show that was on last night, French woman , the CEO of a firm that builds Nuclear Reactors for other countries. One of the last comments she made, "we can make the power, but where do we store the surplus?" It made me think of all this, using the Gulf to store carbon. I realize it doesn't work that way, but I thought the analogy was interesting.

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Yes, indeed, that is why the British co. National Grid is taking over the consumer energy market.
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Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important
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Oh, my ....

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This is the reason that we are getting "intelligent" meters installed in all our homes. (No you didn't order it, the power company installs their own.)

These next generation meters will allow usage only when power and storage facilities decide that it's best. In other words, you'll get it when they want you to have it. If they don't want you to have any, they'll hit the "kill-switch."

You know, kinda like the "kill-switch" evilBP is supposed to have designed into its out-of-control, every-morphing algae.

Show that was on last night, French woman , the CEO of a firm that builds Nuclear Reactors for other countries. One of the last comments she made, "we can make the power, but where do we store the surplus?" It made me think of all this, using the Gulf to store carbon. I realize it doesn't work that way, but I thought the analogy was interesting.

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The real reason for the smart meters, is not so much to be a kill switch for when you default on bills - as it is a surveillance tool.

Those meters allow 'whoever' to be able to determine how many people are in the dwelling, when, and what they are doing.
"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to install a bunch of timer switches.


This is the reason that we are getting "intelligent" meters installed in all our homes. (No you didn't order it, the power company installs their own.)

These next generation meters will allow usage only when power and storage facilities decide that it's best. In other words, you'll get it when they want you to have it. If they don't want you to have any, they'll hit the "kill-switch."

You know, kinda like the "kill-switch" evilBP is supposed to have designed into its out-of-control, every-morphing algae.

Show that was on last night, French woman , the CEO of a firm that builds Nuclear Reactors for other countries. One of the last comments she made, "we can make the power, but where do we store the surplus?" It made me think of all this, using the Gulf to store carbon. I realize it doesn't work that way, but I thought the analogy was interesting.



The real reason for the smart meters, is not so much to be a kill switch for when you default on bills - as it is a surveillance tool.

Those meters allow 'whoever' to be able to determine how many people are in the dwelling, when, and what they are doing.
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Just in from Houston:

In the past few days, a number of Continental flights from Denver to Houston have been at least half full of Red Cross nurses. Denver is a major connecting hub for that carrier from flights around the country.
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If the evilBP run-a-way, morphing microbes are eating all the plastic, you'll want to take those contacts out anyway.


This is a really good company to deal with for Gas masks.

[link to approvedgasmasks.com]

They have a decent amount of info to help with your selections.

If you wear glasses, remember to NOT wear contact lenses if you needed to use them in a SHTF situation. Your contacts can slip or have other problems and you cannot adjust them. Several of the types have insert frames for prescription lenses to be put in them.

I have the M95 models (military) They have a 20 yr shelflife. They are made for wearing for a very long time, unlike some types like the cheaper units. The lens frame was important to me and my family. They come in small and medium sizes. A larger wider face male take the medium, while a narrow thin and smaller face take the small size.

Also, remembr that one days growth of beard is plenty enough to break the air seal on the face. Don them clean shaven only.

I have a beard, and in my bag I keep the mask in is a battery powered hair trimmer to get it off fast, and a electric razor to get the stubble off. There is also a small pair of scizzors, a bar of soap and a disposable razor if the electrics don't work.

I use Scott NBC filters. I trust them the best.

All total I have 6 masks and 6 filters for each. When you get the filters, make sure you ask when they were made and that they have a 10 yr shelf life. Some have as short as two years. The Good ones (read expensive) have the longer life.
Go brand name. It will be worth it if you need them. This is not a area you want to skimp on.
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Renegade Son, take a look as these and see what you think.
[link to www.imsplus.com]
And thanks for the Red Cross tidbit, I will be forwarded to some folks , maybe they'll get the hint, that something bad is looming...or maybe not.
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Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important

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Questions:

1 - can the OP read what is sent on Vector Channels? I conclude not.

2 - what is therefore sent on Vector Channels, that is too sensitive for DED channels? I conclude that the unknowns detected on the infrared spectrum were the reason for the request to use Vector Channel(s).

3 - what unknowns emit on the IR spectrum, that necessitate communication on much more secure frequencies? I conclude that USOs are present - Unidentified Submarine Objects.

4 - an evacuation is being planned for parts of the Gulf area. Martial law will be implemented - but will it be national?

fun times indeed
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Renegade Son, take a look as these and see what you think.
[link to www.imsplus.com]
And thanks for the Red Cross tidbit, I will be forwarded to some folks , maybe they'll get the hint, that something bad is looming...or maybe not.
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Thanks Watcher, I had heard that the Israelis make the best gas masks. Price is reasonable too. I think I will order two plus extra filters.
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Renegade Son, take a look as these and see what you think.
[link to www.imsplus.com]
And thanks for the Red Cross tidbit, I will be forwarded to some folks , maybe they'll get the hint, that something bad is looming...or maybe not.

Thanks Watcher, I had heard that the Israelis make the best gas masks. Price is reasonable too. I think I will order two plus extra filters.
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I'll probably go ahead and order two Thursday myself, new, cheap, not civie version. I was wondering if Housedad can give me the series of the Scotts cartridges he has?
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Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important



Questions:

1 - can the OP read what is sent on Vector Channels? I conclude not. You're right from what I gather

2 - what is therefore sent on Vector Channels, that is too sensitive for DED channels? I conclude that the unknowns detected on the infrared spectrum were the reason for the request to use Vector Channel(s). Right again

3 - what unknowns emit on the IR spectrum, that necessitate communication on much more secure frequencies? I conclude that USOs are present - Unidentified Submarine (submerged) Objects.

4 - an evacuation is being planned for parts of the Gulf area. Martial law will be implemented - but will it be national? Unknown at this time, possibly zone type of setup. My guess.

fun times indeed you're are very correct
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Correction from Houston Central:

These are not nurses as in RN, but Red Cross volunteers. It is believed that the majority of them will be set up to work from Brownsville, Texas. In other words, basic MASH will be set up out of harm's way.


Just in from Houston:

In the past few days, a number of Continental flights from Denver to Houston have been at least half full of Red Cross nurses. Denver is a major connecting hub for that carrier from flights around the country.
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Thanks for the update, correction forwarded. So, I can assume that Brownsville will be a cold zone?
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Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important



Questions:

1 - can the OP read what is sent on Vector Channels? I conclude not. You're right from what I gather

2 - what is therefore sent on Vector Channels, that is too sensitive for DED channels? I conclude that the unknowns detected on the infrared spectrum were the reason for the request to use Vector Channel(s). Right again

3 - what unknowns emit on the IR spectrum, that necessitate communication on much more secure frequencies? I conclude that USOs are present - Unidentified Submarine (submerged) Objects.

4 - an evacuation is being planned for parts of the Gulf area. Martial law will be implemented - but will it be national? Unknown at this time, possibly zone type of setup. My guess.

fun times indeed you're are very correct

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underwater infrared?? I was a flight test engineer for Lockheed Martin (when it was still Martin Marietta)in the eighties and early nineties and spent all of my time testing..of all things..an infrared system for the Air Force. From my experience,and its been a few years, infrared won't work under water. Who the hell knows, maybe they came up with some new way to differentiate temperature difference under water... but I doubt it.
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Military terms: VECTOR

"Term for location/speed"

"vectored attack
Attack in which a weapon carrier (air, surface, or subsurface) not holding contact on the target is vectored to the weapon delivery point by a unit (air, surface, or subsurface) which holds contact on the target. "

This message from EM Captain is probably a request for targeting assistance and approval (most likely from Mistral). In other words, the EM is under attack and is defending/counterattacking, or the EM wants target track confirmation.


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Renegade, the only time I could see using infrared is at night (on surface) and even then it would less than stellar for distance (would be useing radar instead for this), am I correct? With, yet another question, I'm off, goodnight all
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Thanks for the update, correction forwarded. So, I can assume that Brownsville will be a cold zone?
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Likely going for Hurricane Alex relief work.
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I was wondering if Housedad can give me the series of the Scotts cartridges he has?
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Here is the link from Approved gas masks of the filters they carry.

I called them and they are sold out on the Scott filters right now. More in by the end of the week.

[link to approvedgasmasks.com]

This is the SCOTT:

[link to approvedgasmasks.com]

However, the NORTH fABC filter is available, and at a really attractive price. 8 year shelf life.

[link to approvedgasmasks.com]

Or this one: I don't know the shlef life.

[link to www.approvedgasmasks.com]

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Hi Aussie, Southern-bred, corn-fed here...

Don't know a lot 'bout the first questions, but about martial law, I'll tell you how it is here. tptb ain't got enough dressed-in-black, jack-booted, riot-helmeted thugs to control the entire US population of close to 300 million. If NATO has enough man-power to set up martial control in the US, they'd better be good and that will be very difficult in a country which has an extremely diverse population such as ours. What I'm saying, what works in one area will not work in another.

For years now, we've lived with infiltrators among us looking for militias and other population which could prove difficult for the powers. The infiltrators can't find the Lone Rangers and there are a lot of them. It’s bad enough around home that the lawyers will have to go into hiding. Talk in public is that the lawyers will be the first to go down. In other words, the communities will start to clean themselves of the vermin poaching off the backs of the “small people” and “martial law” enforcement won’t know what’s going on.

A lot of inner-cities are controlled by gangs with different strokes for different folks. The g’ment keeps a handle on the gangs, but I sincerely don’t think they can control them all, all at once.

Local LE is likely the weakest link. These guys live here in the communities and they tell that if the SHTF, they are headed out to get their kids and are going to the house, plus they have guns and boolits at home, not like the UK bobbies who only carry a noggin’ knocker.

Martial law in one part of the county, “Yes” the g’ment can handle that. I just don’t see it happening country-wide, .... until China or India invades militarily. India is the country most likely able to implement martial law because they have integrated people into our society much more so than the Chinese and the East Indians are prolly able to control our systems from within.





Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important



Questions:

1 - can the OP read what is sent on Vector Channels? I conclude not.

2 - what is therefore sent on Vector Channels, that is too sensitive for DED channels? I conclude that the unknowns detected on the infrared spectrum were the reason for the request to use Vector Channel(s).

3 - what unknowns emit on the IR spectrum, that necessitate communication on much more secure frequencies? I conclude that USOs are present - Unidentified Submarine Objects.

4 - an evacuation is being planned for parts of the Gulf area. Martial law will be implemented - but will it be national?

fun times indeed
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Thanks for the update, correction forwarded. So, I can assume that Brownsville will be a cold zone?


Likely going for Hurricane Alex relief work.
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Or Bonnie that is forming now.
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Has anyone here seen this thread about US Warships heading to Coasta Rica?

Thread: US warships headed to Costa Rica

Secondary thread on this subject:

Thread: SHTF IN COSTA RICA!!!ALERT!!

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Looks like they are working on it!

Underwater IR communication system
United States Patent 5267070
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An underwater communications system comprising first and second communications modules which transmit and receive data utilizing infrared radiation. Each module has a transmitter/receiver which converts each received data byte to RS-232 formatted data for transmission to a computer. Each communication module also includes a timer for providing a forty kilohertz pulsed signal to modulation circuitry which passes the pulsed signal through the modulation circuitry when a logic zero is supplied to the modulation circuitry and which inhibits the pulsed signal when a logic one is supplied to the circuitry. That portion of the pulsed signal which passes through the modulation circuitry is provided to a light emitting diode which transmits a pulsed burst of infrared radiation to an infrared light detecting unit within the second communications module. The infrared light detecting unit then provides a logic zero at its output when its receives a pulsed burst of infrared radiation for time period of approximately six hundred microseconds and a logic one when the unit fails to detect a pulsed burst of infrared radiation for a time period of six hundred microseconds.


Good day, 14 hours ago EM captain reported unknown infra read signatures. captian then asked for vector channel. this is important



Questions:

1 - can the OP read what is sent on Vector Channels? I conclude not. You're right from what I gather

2 - what is therefore sent on Vector Channels, that is too sensitive for DED channels? I conclude that the unknowns detected on the infrared spectrum were the reason for the request to use Vector Channel(s). Right again

3 - what unknowns emit on the IR spectrum, that necessitate communication on much more secure frequencies? I conclude that USOs are present - Unidentified Submarine (submerged) Objects.

4 - an evacuation is being planned for parts of the Gulf area. Martial law will be implemented - but will it be national? Unknown at this time, possibly zone type of setup. My guess.

fun times indeed you're are very correct


underwater infrared?? I was a flight test engineer for Lockheed Martin (when it was still Martin Marietta)in the eighties and early nineties and spent all of my time testing..of all things..an infrared system for the Air Force. From my experience,and its been a few years, infrared won't work under water. Who the hell knows, maybe they came up with some new way to differentiate temperature difference under water... but I doubt it.
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underwater infrared?? I was a flight test engineer for Lockheed Martin (when it was still Martin Marietta)in the eighties and early nineties and spent all of my time testing..of all things..an infrared system for the Air Force. From my experience,and its been a few years, infrared won't work under water. Who the hell knows, maybe they came up with some new way to differentiate temperature difference under water... but I doubt it.
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I concur that IR is not associated with underwater communications, but I have heard that it can be used for detecting the temperature of objects underwater.

Consider the activity going on relatively suddenly in the Gulf of Mexico:

- scientific expeditions announced by the mainstream press, heading to the Cayman Trough, to investigate undersea eruptions 5km down

- BP punctures oil/gas/whatever pocket

- USA sends 46 warships, thousands of marines, planes etc to Costa Rica - to fight the war on drugs

- reports of many other nations' submarines in the area

- French DED chatter as reported by the OP


I suspect that the drug war military movements, the BP oil rupture and the science expeditions are legitimate to all intents and purposes, but that they are simultaneously serving as a good smokescreen for something else.

I have had information which in essence indicates that something big and unexpected has cropped up. My sources indicate that many meetings have occurred over the last 2 weeks - basically seeking to address the situation and on how to 'use' it to maintain their own agendas.
The thing is, whatever it is that has happened, is really big - and many agendas and plans have to be almost totally scrapped and/or rewritten.

I am told that the situation is still developing.

Further, my information pegged the starting point for the consternation as something found in the Gulf of Aden; which then caused them to look for something related/similar in the Gulf of Mexico. We are talking about something very high tech, not expected, and not 'ours'.

Incidentally, my information indicated a staged evacuation from the Gulf of Mexico areas - with martial law being instituted as necessary. Whether or not this period of martial law will be used to perpetuate further 'emergencies' and thus more martial law was unclear.

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I had 2 thoughts about OP's last update. The unknown infra red signal is coming from a) "they" who the french fear may want to sink A Whale, or b) is from the seafloor (ie a sudden intensification of the situation (lava, methane, etc).

I also haven't seen it noted (although I could have missed it), but OP's hint wasn't about an orca, but an Orca (as in a proper name).
[link to www7440.nrlssc.navy.mil] U. S. NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY: ORCA ???

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