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Can we talk about the possibility of civil war, or a Naval coup? At this point we know the GOM is way screwed, no matter what the truth is. I've been involved in this thread from day one and do believe that this is real. NATO sending our forces out of harms way is a HUGE sign to me. Can anybody expound on the civil war side of this discussion? Does anyone know anymore on this topic? I'm still in the process of gathering survival gear and stocking up on ammo. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and am very anxious to get this weekend over with since the 11th (Sunday) is supposedly a 'GO' day for doom. Anybody know more on civil war?



I define civil war in this context, as not so much citizens vs citizens, as more a civil war between powerful factions using their respective assets/alliances to wrest control over what we call the USA.

There are two big 'factions' vying for power in/over the USA right now. Neither faction is necessarily defined by geography or religion, I might add.

What IS most interesting is the US Navy, and their plans. It is my assessment that the US Navy has already stopped several trigger events/false flag operations over the last decade or two. Had they been unsuccessful in those operations, then the world would be a vastly different place.

Also, I believe that the US Navy is more 'in the loop' regarding non-terrestrial visitors and technology, than the other armed forces.

I do not believe the coup d'etat will devolve into civil war involving the people. I think most of you will not even register that it happened, if it happens.
For example, consider the overseas reactions when it was announced that Dubya first won the presidency. Many countries announced it was a coup, and that the elections were rigged. They were right, it was a coup, the elections were rigged, but it obviously didn't 'feel' like a coup to the average Joe TV Sixpack.

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You are exactly correct in every statement.
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Relevant is that we always thought that the AF was putting up little tidbits of info to let us find what was "out there" in the public arena.
The last several pages are laden with clues.


AF leaving us clues?

Are you suggesting OP is AF?
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Me? Not at all. This sentence is mine, quoted in someone else's post. I forgot to log in, but I have an ability to zero in on certain posts that to others look mundane. If no one has noticed the last five pages have taken a different tone? Watchers are trying to help fill the gaps.
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No, the AF clues were ten years ago. Nothing to make us think that OP is AF.

AF was "used" for 9 and 11, which I think is one of the reasons that the "Enterprise" message board was supported to keep fingertips on public opinion. New ball game today.

I agree with Aussie that our navy has helped. Really interesting legal case about a year ago, asserting that all international electronic money transfers must come under "The Law of the Sea" or "Admiralty Law" then the Navy, I guess, would be in charge of our international banksters doing business in our country.



Relevant is that we always thought that the AF was putting up little tidbits of info to let us find what was "out there" in the public arena.
The last several pages are laden with clues.


AF leaving us clues?

Are you suggesting OP is AF?
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Can we talk about the possibility of civil war, or a Naval coup? At this point we know the GOM is way screwed, no matter what the truth is. I've been involved in this thread from day one and do believe that this is real. NATO sending our forces out of harms way is a HUGE sign to me. Can anybody expound on the civil war side of this discussion? Does anyone know anymore on this topic? I'm still in the process of gathering survival gear and stocking up on ammo. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and am very anxious to get this weekend over with since the 11th (Sunday) is supposedly a 'GO' day for doom. Anybody know more on civil war?



I define civil war in this context, as not so much citizens vs citizens, as more a civil war between powerful factions using their respective assets/alliances to wrest control over what we call the USA.

There are two big 'factions' vying for power in/over the USA right now. Neither faction is necessarily defined by geography or religion, I might add.

What IS most interesting is the US Navy, and their plans. It is my assessment that the US Navy has already stopped several trigger events/false flag operations over the last decade or two. Had they been unsuccessful in those operations, then the world would be a vastly different place.

Also, I believe that the US Navy is more 'in the loop' regarding non-terrestrial visitors and technology, than the other armed forces.

I do not believe the coup d'etat will devolve into civil war involving the people. I think most of you will not even register that it happened, if it happens.
For example, consider the overseas reactions when it was announced that Dubya first won the presidency. Many countries announced it was a coup, and that the elections were rigged. They were right, it was a coup, the elections were rigged, but it obviously didn't 'feel' like a coup to the average Joe TV Sixpack.

peace


You are exactly correct in every statement.
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Who/what are the two factions?
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Check out the camouflage on the equipment. It matches our Southern green countryside and our red clay soil.

Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.
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Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.

Given the situation today, if a Russian naval craft landed on one of our beaches flying that flag and started off-loading military equipment, they would be covered in flowers and sweet_kiss

tptb have been stomping the life out of us here in the South. Our (s)elected politicians are paid, private-interest fags and slop-bucket pigs. We have a very few who are respectable.
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The flag on Russia's ship is quite odd

Found this on same link;

Russian Air Force to get dozens of helicopters if
Mistral deal agreed


The Russian Air Force will receive dozens of Ka-class helicopters if Russia buys a Mistral-class helicopter carrier from France, a deputy head of a Russian aviation production firm said on Monday.

Russia is negotiating the purchase of at least one French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault ship and plans to build three more vessels of the same class in partnership with the French naval shipbuilder DCNS.

full article:
[link to en.rian.ru]
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Check out the camouflage on the equipment. It matches our Southern green countryside and our red clay soil.


Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.
.....

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Um, anybody notice that there is DIRT stemming from the ship. The beach is rocky, yet there is a ton of dirt to drive on. Did they truck that in?
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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.
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Note another 'blue' for the thread:

"We still have the Blue Angels."

Could it be that Code Blue is "Navy Blue" or control by the navies of different countries?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

The Air Force is pretty much finished with missiles, drones, NASA and space shuttles. Maybe others have another opinion, but after 9 and 11 and the US Air Force did not get one single plane in the air for at least 45 minutes, Air Force is FINISHED! Screw those Joint Chiefs and Gen. Richard Meyers who was "in charge" that day and then a couple weeks later promoted to Chairman of Joint Chiefs.




gotcha, I do hope our Navy does the 'right' thing. ....

Pensacola NAS had it's guts pulled out about 4 or 5 years ago. It's nothing but a huge golf course and a PX. We still have the Blue Angels LOL. That's about it. All is quiet here.
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Note another 'blue' for the thread:

"We still have the Blue Angels."

Could it be that Code Blue is "Navy Blue" or control by the navies of different countries?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

The Air Force is pretty much finished with missiles, drones, NASA and space shuttles. Maybe others have another opinion, but after 9 and 11 and the US Air Force did not get one single plane in the air for at least 45 minutes, Air Force is FINISHED! Screw those Joint Chiefs and Gen. Richard Meyers who was "in charge" that day and then a couple weeks later promoted to Chairman of Joint Chiefs.






gotcha, I do hope our Navy does the 'right' thing. ....

Pensacola NAS had it's guts pulled out about 4 or 5 years ago. It's nothing but a huge golf course and a PX. We still have the Blue Angels LOL. That's about it. All is quiet here.

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Link to Blue Angels:

[link to rds.yahoo.com]

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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.
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Very good points.

Based on my own conversations and research, I believe that TPTB have technology which tells them where stress is increasing along tectonic plates, and thus, allows them forewarning of major volcanic and earthquake activity. This information is used, as in Haiti, to further cement the power and profit of various factions - where advantage is taken of the situation.

However, sometimes I believe TPTB have 'defused' certain big earthquake events. Releasing pressure at key points at key times may well be being utilised now and then. When I first heard of the BP rupture, my first thoughts were, that maybe it was intentional - as a pressure release mechanism to defuse a looming 'big one' along the Madrid or San Andreas fault lines.

Tectonic stresses are certainly increasing, ocean floors are rising in some places, and falling in others, indeed whole plates are active. Indeed most planets in our solar system, and many of their moons, are experiencing dramatic changes in their 'climate' simultaneously. Lots happening!

I strongly suggest people would do well to consider the following concepts:
- abiotic oil - the role of microbes/bacteria in causing oil
- the expanding Earth hypothesis
- the electrical Earth/Universe hypothesis

There is lots of interest, from near and afar, about what is happening here on Earth at this time.

We are entering an age of discovery, or remembering - depending on how you look at things.
Consider everything - but believe nothing - that way you'll be able to change fast enough to cope with it all.

peace
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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.
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please give a page number...that one day, so much was going on, that I had gotten quite bleary eyed from reading...so I may have missed the importance of what you said...
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Check out the camouflage on the equipment. It matches our Southern green countryside and our red clay soil.


Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.
.....




Um, anybody notice that there is DIRT stemming from the ship. The beach is rocky, yet there is a ton of dirt to drive on. Did they truck that in?
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Dirt and rock beach could indeed be a photoshop job. The flag though? Absolutely. I would have put a little more physics into the flagjob, but this gets the job done. Good analysis guys. I hope we don't see these troops walking a beat in our streets. They're from a much tougher and meaner bunch of folks than our present guards.
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Ok, with the post about the lady above, I have come full circle four times. These connections I keep coming back to:
Plate tectonics
Magnetic anomalies (a really big part)
volcanic, undersea so far

Ok, my thoughts, what if you knew where the plates would fracture? And were able to tie with existing magnetic anomalies? Could these anomalies be so strong at times to alter a sub's navigation or function? Exerting forces on the plates to encourage them to move? Just thinking out loud...
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Suppose that this GOM oil spill was intentional. Suppose that an EQ (Madrid) in this region on a large scale was intentional in order to open the seabed further, to shift the plates to reveal something. That something is worth an international crisis? That something is worth lives of millions around the GOM?

The Gulf of Aden was obviously not just about 18 yr pirates (some of whom were just trying to stop the foreigners from dumping radioactive waste). The international show of force was unprecedented. In fact, the only accomplishment was it seemed to just boggle up traffic on the Gulf. Something peaked their interest.
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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.
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Totally agree. The tectonics is the real crisis. What we see going on around it are those seeking to not waste the crisis.
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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.



Totally agree. The tectonics is the real crisis. What we see going on around it are those seeking to not waste the crisis.
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I should say not just tectonics, but all of the woo woo earth/sun/solar systems events. *That* is what so many have been covering up for too many years to count from our own history to earthquake data. Lies on top of lies.
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Check out the camouflage on the equipment. It matches our Southern green countryside and our red clay soil.


Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.
.....

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What "southern" are you talking about? The Georgia Red Clay isn't soft like that. It's hard, like clay. Literal clay. You can barely scrape up a hunk with a rock, much less be that soft. And I don't know any beach down south that is rock. The sand on the east coast is courser than the Gulf (which is powder white-or it was until May 2010) but certainly not all rock like.
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Ok, with the post about the lady above, I have come full circle four times. These connections I keep coming back to:
Plate tectonics
Magnetic anomalies (a really big part)
volcanic, undersea so far

Ok, my thoughts, what if you knew where the plates would fracture? And were able to tie with existing magnetic anomalies? Could these anomalies be so strong at times to alter a sub's navigation or function? Exerting forces on the plates to encourage them to move? Just thinking out loud...


Suppose that this GOM oil spill was intentional. Suppose that an EQ (Madrid) in this region on a large scale was intentional in order to open the seabed further, to shift the plates to reveal something. That something is worth an international crisis? That something is worth lives of millions around the GOM?

The Gulf of Aden was obviously not just about 18 yr pirates (some of whom were just trying to stop the foreigners from dumping radioactive waste). The international show of force was unprecedented. In fact, the only accomplishment was it seemed to just boggle up traffic on the Gulf. Something peaked their interest.
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The madrid is nothing compared to the Arvidson Lineament. Also known as the Missouri Gravity Low.

This fault line is 1700 miles long and crosses the whole united states diagonally from Georgia to Puget Sound Washington. It is 70-90 miles wide and just as deep.

It is very difficult to find info on this but I found these pics on google:

[link to i245.photobucket.com]

[link to image60.webshots.com]

[link to i245.photobucket.com]

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I was aware of that fault across the US...but didn't know what it was called...Thank you for posting that picture of it..
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Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.

Given the situation today, if a Russian naval craft landed on one of our beaches flying that flag and started off-loading military equipment, they would be covered in flowers and
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The flag you are presumably talking about is the flag of the Russian Navy:
[link to tmg110.tripod.com]

There are a finite number of flag designs, you know, so some of them do look alike... (these three dots are elipsis, not morse code)
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I agree with nexus guy....

microcosm/macrocosm, haven't 3 planets in our solar system had pole shifts in last 10 years?

Vibrational energy/New physics/DNA

Look at all of the quakes, coral sea rising 400 metres or more just last 2 months..

tbtb are just trying to put themselves in to a profitus position as they know the earth changes are occuring and roughly when and where and caused by what.....

David Wilcock good source of info...

We also need to listen to the old tribes as they have known for milennia what was due to go down, and what signs to look for.....
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Someone write about Octopsy
(two crosses, geometry in the flag of the Russian Navy)
threat some weeks ago aprox.
also red, blue and white colors in it,
like flags from US, UK,...

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The flag you are presumably talking about is the flag of the Russian Navy:
[link to tmg110.tripod.com]
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I agree with nexus guy....

microcosm/macrocosm, haven't 3 planets in our solar system had pole shifts in last 10 years?

Vibrational energy/New physics/DNA

Look at all of the quakes, coral sea rising 400 metres or more just last 2 months..

tbtb are just trying to put themselves in to a profitus position as they know the earth changes are occuring and roughly when and where and caused by what.....

David Wilcock good source of info...

We also need to listen to the old tribes as they have known for milennia what was due to go down, and what signs to look for.....
 Quoting: bevvy


yes what comes around gies around.This knowledge has been held sacred by the indiginous Tribes and is there for the asking as long as there is trust.I understand that there have been massive changes in all the planets of our solar system.Something is incoming and is expected.The Vatican is involved and recent years have seen a glut of infared devices, satellites, telescopes etc some in the Southern Hemisphere where they expect to image our visitor first!There are many wonders mostly ignored by the mainstream media and to be found at cropcircleconnector.com.Our brothers and sisters from off planet are trying to speak with us.Unfortunately we carry on with our superficial lifestyles that cannot last for long now.We have destroyed our home in just over 200 years.All our relations have managed to live in harmony here for eons but man is greedy !
My great concern now is that lifeforms that we do not properly understand are being introduced as we speak into the marshes of the Gulf.OrgNisms to eat the oil but they are being manipulated to do the job faster!The gulf is being used as a laboratory and the experiment is UNCONTROLLED!!!!! This is very very dangerous!!!!!!! I doubt that it can be stopped now.Look at my posts from last evening for more details not that any of us have the real details!PBS appears to be giving the most honest news of the networks.I am very very concerned for the beautiful Gulf and all it's inhAbitants.I wish OP had been able to tell us more but appreciate what ge has been able to say.The movement of the fleet is a warning!!!!
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I'm seeing conflict between some major players, and a strong potential for another accident...

I read somewhere that the AWhale needs lots of space around it, not crowded. Then ran into this:

(I'm not wanting to copy too much of the article, just key things that stood out to me.)

"Several hundred people are working in a confined space with live hydrocarbons on up to four vessels," Suttles wrote. "This is significantly beyond both BP and industry practice."

>snip<

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with live hydrocarbons ????

Why do they say LIVE ???
Maybe its becoz I did not have coffee this morning ...lol... but this seems a bit odd to say scratching
am i too late?

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live as in uncontained? potential to explode, like live rounds?
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This is the first time I have ever seen this contact reveal stuff publicly. Granted it looks like he has merely read all this thread, and regurgitated it - but that's not the full picture. He's confirming the things of importance by mentioning them again.

After talking with him on the phone, I can tell you the following:

- my contact is strongly suggesting people to leave the gulf areas asap, while they can do so under their own steam and free will.

- civil war is on the cards for the USA very soon, unless something is worked out.

- definitely something exotic 'down there'. They are pinging objects down there that don't belong to any nation on Earth - and there are procedures to be followed by all parties concerned when this happens.

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Strongly disagree on civil war between the people in the US. Yes, there is a lot of frustration right now with illegal immigration across the Southern border, but I do not see the potential for any group of citizen to go out and hunt down, or fight to kill another group.

This may happen between individuals and gangs, but not community groups. I cannot see a civil war happening in the large cities either.

A civil war in the US is all msm hocus-pocus, 'stir up trouble and try and make 'em hate each other' kind of thing.

I live here and I know. There is no group that is going armed against another group in the general population of the US.

tptb WANT us after one another, to keep us from coming after them.

Almost all official authority is now hated in this country, this include law enforcement, school boards, state officials, agencies, and federal government. The anti-government attitude has gotten so bad that civil employees do not want to admit that they are g'ment paid with our tax dollars.

There is very strong anti-government sentiment in the US among the "regular" folks, not just those who chat on 'net boards, but the Tea Party older folks, people in church, and younger people as well. Everybody still waves their flags, but they hate the civil workers in g'ment jobs.

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All I say is : remember those "groups" at the G20 that cauzed trouble (demonstration, burning cars, etc ..) and police had to take then into arrest? Remember the pictures with the protest-men wearing POLICE SHOES ????
(with that special red tap under it)

This was a set up, a theater play to fool the people.
TPTB want us-you to go and rebelliate and protest and go violent and angry > that gives them a reason to push laws thru and to give the military the power ...

I suppose that the "stirr-up" in several places is just a hollywood scene to provoke the ordinary citizens....
(except for some real pissed off people .. not all is a set-up)
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Most interesting is this link by an earlier poster today:

[link to en.rian.ru]

Don't know if that picture has been photoshopped, but if not, then someone has done their homework.

Given the situation today, if a Russian naval craft landed on one of our beaches flying that flag and started off-loading military equipment, they would be covered in flowers and


The flag you are presumably talking about is the flag of the Russian Navy:
[link to tmg110.tripod.com]

There are a finite number of flag designs, you know, so some of them do look alike... (these three dots are elipsis, not morse code)
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i just made an observation
thnx 4 the link
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The way I see it is people are having a tendency to get bogged down in the smaller aspects of this, and not looking at the bigger picture. The three things I posted a few pages back I know for a fact they are part of this. I tried to expound a few posts later on the connections of the three items. I think the OP and Rockhuff caught the drift, but these are driving factors in alot of what you see going on, what is happening in the Gulf, why the troops are being place where they are, what is expected to happen, and why the hurry to get certain controls in place by elites. I won't explain how I know, but they are. I will say the tectonics is NOT an isolated event. What you are seeing with the gulf and the fractures are a small part of many events taking place WORLDWIDE. Ok, I can't say anymore than this.
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Very good points.

Based on my own conversations and research, I believe that TPTB have technology which tells them where stress is increasing along tectonic plates, and thus, allows them forewarning of major volcanic and earthquake activity. This information is used, as in Haiti, to further cement the power and profit of various factions - where advantage is taken of the situation.

However, sometimes I believe TPTB have 'defused' certain big earthquake events. Releasing pressure at key points at key times may well be being utilised now and then. When I first heard of the BP rupture, my first thoughts were, that maybe it was intentional - as a pressure release mechanism to defuse a looming 'big one' along the Madrid or San Andreas fault lines.

Tectonic stresses are certainly increasing, ocean floors are rising in some places, and falling in others, indeed whole plates are active. Indeed most planets in our solar system, and many of their moons, are experiencing dramatic changes in their 'climate' simultaneously. Lots happening!

I strongly suggest people would do well to consider the following concepts:
- abiotic oil - the role of microbes/bacteria in causing oil
- the expanding Earth hypothesis
- the electrical Earth/Universe hypothesis

There is lots of interest, from near and afar, about what is happening here on Earth at this time.

We are entering an age of discovery, or remembering - depending on how you look at things.
Consider everything - but believe nothing - that way you'll be able to change fast enough to cope with it all.

peace
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I agree with the both of you.
In other threads I also talked about the "handy use of HAARP" to let steam off of several volcano's and pressure points.
TPTB do want to keep controle over the Earth and its humans. They do not yet want the economy to go down the hole due to an earthquake.
Months ago (and maybe still) there were many little tremors and quakes in Yellowstone and other area in other countries. I tend to believe that that was not "natural" and that it was "activated" by TPTB to release tectonical pressures that otherwise would have already cauzed major chaos.

But I also think that THEY can not PLAY with the earth like that WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES ... I dare to say that they have not complete control over the mechanisms of the earth, It is a very complicated and delicate equilibrium that is in harmony with other celestial elements.
One time sooner or later, Mama Earth is gonna have her transformation .. period.
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Can we talk about the possibility of civil war, or a Naval coup? At this point we know the GOM is way screwed, no matter what the truth is. I've been involved in this thread from day one and do believe that this is real. NATO sending our forces out of harms way is a HUGE sign to me. Can anybody expound on the civil war side of this discussion? Does anyone know anymore on this topic? I'm still in the process of gathering survival gear and stocking up on ammo. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and am very anxious to get this weekend over with since the 11th (Sunday) is supposedly a 'GO' day for doom. Anybody know more on civil war?



I define civil war in this context, as not so much citizens vs citizens, as more a civil war between powerful factions using their respective assets/alliances to wrest control over what we call the USA.

There are two big 'factions' vying for power in/over the USA right now. Neither faction is necessarily defined by geography or religion, I might add.

What IS most interesting is the US Navy, and their plans. It is my assessment that the US Navy has already stopped several trigger events/false flag operations over the last decade or two. Had they been unsuccessful in those operations, then the world would be a vastly different place.

Also, I believe that the US Navy is more 'in the loop' regarding non-terrestrial visitors and technology, than the other armed forces.

I do not believe the coup d'etat will devolve into civil war involving the people. I think most of you will not even register that it happened, if it happens.
For example, consider the overseas reactions when it was announced that Dubya first won the presidency. Many countries announced it was a coup, and that the elections were rigged. They were right, it was a coup, the elections were rigged, but it obviously didn't 'feel' like a coup to the average Joe TV Sixpack.

peace
 Quoting: nexuseditor

We must be reading the same playbook.. citizens may or may not choose to get involved.. but it will be faction against faction.. just like it always has been.

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