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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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THE BLINDMAN SAW IT, THE DEAFMAN HEARD IT AND THE CRIPPLEDMAN RAN FOR HELP. nothing will happen today.



"I see said the blind man to his deaf wife,
As his crippled son ran up the stairs."

Two dead boys
(Many different versions)

one fine day in the middle of the night
two dead men got up to fight
back to back they faced each other
drew their swords and shot each other
the blind man saw
the deaf man heard
the crippled man ran for help



"One fine day in the middle of the night,
A fire broke out in the ocean,
A deaf man heard it,
A blind man saw it."
"A man with no legs ran for the fire engine,

The fire engine was drawn by four dead donkeys,
Sitting at a square round table,
Eating vinegar with a fork."

"One fine day in the middle of the night
A bucket of water caught alight.
A blind man saw it
A deaf man heard it
And the dumb man shouted for the fire brigade.

The fire engine came pulled by 2 dead horses
Ran over a dead cat and half killed it."

"One fine day in the middle of the night,
The ocean caught alight,
The blind man saw it,
The deaf man heard it,
And the man with no legs ran after the fire engine.

The engine arrived drawn by six dead horses,
Ran over the dead dog,
And half killed it."

"One bright day in the middle of the night,
The Pacific Ocean caught alight.
The blind man saw it, The deaf man heard it,
The dumb man called the fire brigade."

These lines were followed by the following concepts, but in an order that Galen could not exactly remember:

"The fire brigade arrived ten minutes before the fire started,
On the way they ran over a dead cat and half killed it,
And put out the fire with petrol." [gasoline/oil]
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Oh I love it...reat find!




DER didnt look at the caps again! think I would get it by now......M L hmmmm.



OMG......

ML

Movimiento Libertario, a libertarian political party in Costa Rica

The party claims to represent hundreds of thousands of Costa Rican citizens from all walks of life, tired of politics, parties, traditional politicians, and the country's deteriorating situation.

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Or

A Motor Launch (ML) is a small military vessel in British navy service. They were designed for harbour defence and submarine chasing or for armed high speed Air Sea Rescue.

The first Motor Launches entered service in the First World War. These were 550 80-foot long vessels built by the US Elco company for the Admiralty receiving the designations ML-1 to ML-550 They served between 1916 and the end of the war with the Royal Navy defending the coast from German submarines

Or

A Langmuir monolayer or insoluble monolayer is a one-molecule thick layer of an insoluble organic material spread onto an aqueous subphase. Traditional compounds used to prepare Langmuir monolayers are amphiphilic materials that possess a hydrophilic headgroup and a hydrophobic tail. Since the 1980s a large number of other materials have been employed to produce Langmuir monolayers, some of which are semi-amphiphilic, including macromolecules such as polymers. Langmuir monolayers are extensively studied for the fabrication of Langmuir-Blodgett film (LB films), which are formed by transferred monolayers on a solid substrate.. A Gibbs monolayer or soluble monolayer is a monolayer formed by a compound that is soluble in one of the phases separated by the interface on which the monolayer is formed.

[edit] Formation time
The monolayer formation time or monolayer time is the length of time required, on average, for a surface to be covered by an adsorbate, such as oxygen sticking to fresh aluminum. If the adsorbate has a unity sticking coefficient, so that every molecule which reaches the surface sticks to it without re-evaporating, then the monolayer time is very roughly:


where t is in seconds and P is the pressure in pascals. It takes about 1 second for a surface to be covered at a pressure of 300 µPa (2×10-6 Torr).

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Melamine is an organic base and a trimer of cyanamide, with a 1,3,5-triazine skeleton. Like cyanamide, it contains 66% nitrogen by mass and, if mixed with resins, has fire retardant properties due to its release of nitrogen gas when burned or charred, and has several other industrial uses. Melamine is also a metabolite of cyromazine, a pesticide. It is formed in the body of mammals who have ingested cyromazine.[2] It has been reported that cyromazine can also be converted to melamine in plants.[3][4]
Melamine combines with cyanuric acid and related compounds to form melamine cyanurate and related crystal structures, which have been implicated as contaminants or biomarkers in Chinese protein adulterations.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


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ML
Biology
Monolayers are frequently encountered in biology. A micelle is a monolayer, and the phospholipid lipid bilayer structure of biological membranes is technically two monolayers.

Phospholipids are a class of lipids and are a major component of all cell membranes as they can form lipid bilayers. Most phospholipids contain a diglyceride, a phosphate group, and a simple organic molecule such as choline; one exception to this rule is sphingomyelin, which is derived from sphingosine instead of glycerol. The first phospholipid identified as such in biological tissues was lecithin, or phosphatidylcholine, in the egg yolk, by Theodore Nicolas Gobley, a French chemist and pharmacist, in 1847.


Phosphatidylinositol (PI)
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PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011531


Given OP is referring to skin pigmentation, I believe he meant to type "melanin", not "meLamin". (Unless of course there is some code implied, which I doubt).

Quote:
In humans, melanin is the primary determinant of human skin color and also found in hair, the pigmented tissue underlying the iris, the medulla and zona reticularis of the adrenal gland, the stria vascularis of the inner ear, and in pigment-bearing neurons within areas of the brain stem, such as the locus coeruleus and the substantia nigra.

Melanins have very diverse roles and functions in various organisms. A form of melanin makes up the ink used by many cephalopods (see cephalopod ink) as a defence mechanism against predators. Melanins also protect microorganisms, such as bacteria and fungi, against stresses that involve cell damage by solar UV radiation or generation of reactive oxygen species. These include high temperature as well as chemical (e.g. heavy metals and oxidizing agents), and biochemical (e.g., host defenses against invading microbes) stresses.[5] Therefore, in many pathogenic microbes (for example, in Cryptococcus neoformans, a fungus) melanins appear to play important roles in virulence and pathogenicity by protecting the microbe against immune responses of its host. A potentially novel role of melanin as a photosynthetic pigment in some fungi, enabling them to capture gamma rays[6] and harness its energy for growth has recently been described.[7] (See radiotrophic fungus) In invertebrates, a major aspect of the innate immune defense system against invading pathogens involves melanin. Within minutes after infection, the microbe is encapsulated within melanin (melanization), and the generation of free radical byproducts during the formation of this capsule is thought to aid in their killing.[8]"

End Quote:
Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Melamine is an organic base and a trimer of cyanamide, with a 1,3,5-triazine skeleton. Like cyanamide, it contains 66% nitrogen by mass and, if mixed with resins, has fire retardant properties due to its release of nitrogen gas when burned or charred, and has several other industrial uses. Melamine is also a metabolite of cyromazine, a pesticide. It is formed in the body of mammals who have ingested cyromazine.[2] It has been reported that cyromazine can also be converted to melamine in plants.[3][4]
Melamine combines with cyanuric acid and related compounds to form melamine cyanurate and related crystal structures, which have been implicated as contaminants or biomarkers in Chinese protein adulterations.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


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 Quoting: awake2survive



see I ignored that, thought of kitchem cabinets...LOL
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PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)



Glad you are safe Op, was going to say great news about the sailors, but realised what you meant. Can the sick sailors get better or do they have the wrong DNA?



[link to mela-nina.blogspot.com]
Melanin protects against a parasite of the central nervous system, optic neuritis, parkinsons, PKU, spinal bifida, etc. all found in higher frequencies in ppl of euro descent melanin is also found in several types of cells not related to skin, cells in the brain and muscles. Melanin in the brain and body does more than just “make it darker”. Melanin on the inside as well as outside protects against DNA degradation, it enhances, speeds up the transmission of messages to the brain and body, which is as to why people of color have a tendency to have a higher and quicker level of motor skills and response also protects reproduction system melanin provides an important role outside of uv protection and vitamin synthesis reference sources; Mackintosh 2001 nosanchuck and casdavall 2006 agar and young 2005


Wondering if this article has something to do with what they are targeting with the organism, if it is controlled/created/modified to attack certain DNA.

tpbp wants to keep us controlled, with pineal gland nonfunctioning we can't ascend.


but could be way off too :)

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had that too, covering all bases check link, cheers!
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>snip<


was this on offer for Pi???

[link to pibeta.web.psi.ch]
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First : Bevvy can you explain what you mean ???
"Offer for PI"?



Next :
Ow noooooh ... lol... I am loosing my head.
Bevvy, I went to your link and clicked on "whats new" and then the first article on top about PIon decays.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are so many words in this wiki-page that ring bells,
for example :

- play an important role in explaining low-energy properties of the strong nuclear force (nuke force !!??)...
- a pion (short for pi meson; denoted &#960;) (which looks like .. .. II!!!) is any of three subatomic particles (? 3 vessels, or 3 strands of DNA)
- as the carrier particles of the strong nuclear force. (mail carrier agent)
- by bombarding carbon (!!!?) atoms with high-speed alpha particles.
(alpha particles wiki: two protons and two neutrons bound together into a particle identical to a helium (!!!)nucleus, which is produced in the process of alpha decay. > alpha decay wiki: Alpha decay is a type of radioactive (!!!) decay, and is governed by the interplay between the nuclear force and the electromagnetic (!!!) force.
In theory it can occur only in nuclei somewhat heavier than nickel (element 28), where overall binding energy per nucleon is no longer a minimum, and the nuclides are therefore unstable (!!) toward spontaneous fission-type processes.
Most of the helium produced on Earth (approximately 99% of it) is the result of the alpha decay of underground deposits of minerals containing uranium or thorium. The helium is brought to the surface as a byproduct of natural gas production.(!!)

* Alpha particles: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
alpha radiation is the most destructive form of ionizing radiation. It is the most strongly ionizing, and with large enough doses can cause any or all of the symptoms of radiation poisoning (sick sailors ??!?) . Not only do alphas themselves cause damage, but approximately equal ionization is caused by the recoiling nucleus after alpha emission, and this energy may in turn be especially damaging to genetic material, since the positive cations of many soluble transuranic elements which emit alphas, are chemically attracted to the net negative charge of DNA (??!!!!) , causing the recoiling atomic nucleus to be in close proximation to the DNA.(!!??!)

* Alpha decay: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

-In the modern understanding of the strong force interaction, called "quantum chromodynamics", pions are considered to be the pseudo Nambu-Goldstone bosons of spontaneously broken chiral symmetry. (goldstone !!??!!)

* Spontaneous symmetry breaking [link to en.wikipedia.org]
See this image on that page : [link to upload.wikimedia.org] It says : potential mexican (hat) function (!!??!)

For ferromagnetic materials (iron magnetic particles on hull !!??!) , the laws describing it are invariant under spatial rotations. Here, the order parameter is the magnetization (magnetisme is important key !!?!) , which measures the magnetic dipole density. Above the Curie temperature, the order parameter is zero, which is spatially invariant and there is no symmetry breaking. Below the Curie temperature, however, the magnetization acquires a constant (in the idealized situation where we have full equilibrium; otherwise, translational symmetry gets broken (cargo getting unstable?) as well) nonzero value which points in a certain direction. The residual rotational symmetries which leaves the orientation of this vector invariant remain unbroken but the other rotations get spontaneously broken.

- The use of pions in medical radiation therapy, such as for cancer, was explored at a number of research institutions, including at the Los Alamos National Laboratory's Meson Physics Facility, which treated 228 patients between 1974 and 1981 in New Mexico,(!?!) and the TRIUMF (!?! vessels TRIUMPHANT) laboratory in Vancouver, British (!!?) Columbia.[6]

- The nearly identical masses of &#960;± and &#960;0 imply that there must be a symmetry at play; this symmetry is called the SU(2) (OP used double words in a preveous posting : double US , double other, double comma's, double careFully .. ???!) flavour symmetry or isospin. The reason that there are three pions, &#960;+, &#960;&#8722; and &#960;0, is that these are understood to belong to the triplet representation (triple helix ?)
-Pions are pseudoscalars (!!!) under a parity transformation. Pion currents thus couple to the axial vector current and pions participate in the chiral anomaly.

* pseudoscalar : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Examples
1 the magnetic charge (as it is mathematically defined, regardless of whether it exists physically),
2 the magnetic flux (!!!!) - it is result of a dot (!!!!) product between a vector (the surface normal) and pseudovector (the magnetic field),
3 the helicity is the projection (dot product) of a spin pseudovector onto the direction of momentum (a true vector). (intelligent crystal GOO formations moving not random in a direction !!!)


Ooooh boy, I know this is way over many's heads !
No I am not crazy ...lol...
I see all those words as SIGNALS. For me that means that this information has some relevance whith the forming of those crystaline intelligent mass. Wheter it is linked with how it came to life or how the metabollic system is working, I dont really know ... But for me there are too many key-words -and linkings to other pages that confirm- to just ignore where my computer is leading/guiding me .... I can not ignore this.

This is creative thinking and intuïtion ... lol : intuïPIon hahahaha !

After this I hope I have still some credebility left whaahaha blink


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It's a pile on. Quick, everyone run into the street and tell the people we're going to nuke it!
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Following is from the end of June, but relevant:

" National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) The forecast for the northern Gulf of Mexico hypoxic zone--an underwater area with little or no oxygen known commonly as the “dead zone”--could be larger than the recent average, according to a team of NOAA-supported scientists. The forecast is based on Mississippi River nutrient flows compiled annually by the U.S. Geological Survey.

Question? The failure of the initial containment-cap was partly due to the build up of the 'slushy-methane'. I am now hearing of a massive build-up of this 'slush' on the seabed floor. Has anyone out there been hearing this story?
June 28 at 6:05pm "

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I'm following this thread from the beginning.

One thing keeps bothering me:

150 vessels at spot, so lets say at least 1000 or more personel.

Ships are going from the site to harbour -->contamination?

those ROV's coming to surface-->contamination, yes or no

vessels--> engines bacteria eats oil---> engine will stop

In short: how come that this little village of vessels is still running like a well organised unit ?

Can anyone comment on this, because I cannot put these in the whole picture.

Great thread, learned a lot about new technologies.

and please, you all, stay at the positive side.

stay safe and keep this thread running.

how can this fit in the plot technically ?
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We don't know whether the new microbes or making people sick, or the Corexit or a combination.

If the Corexit is being used primarily to kill of an heretofore unknown microbe, or forcing it under the surface, then where Corexit is sprayed the microbe is limited.

OP's report of sick sailors was after the hatch was opened in the GOM. Reports we've read of Coastal sick are those who have been in the water or had contaminated water on them. Health problems appear to be popping up immediately for those having contaminated water contact. Other problems from the poisonous Corexit may take a while.

Reports of plastics being eaten comes after water contact. For example the buoys, fiberglass boats and tarps which have been rained on.

We read that Corexit is being heavily sprayed over the Gulf and if that is killing off plastic-eating microbes or pushing them to some level under water, I'm not yet reading any inconsistencies. We do not know what health issues may arise with these workers in a couple of years.
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PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011531


Melatonin : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Many biological effects of melatonin are produced through activation of melatonin receptors,[5] while others are due to its role as a pervasive and powerful antioxidant,[6] with a particular role in the protection of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA.[7]

In preclinical studies, melatonin may enhance cytokine production, and by doing this counteract acquired immunodeficiences.

Immunodeficiency (or immune deficiency) : [link to en.wikipedia.org]


My guess is that Melatonin was/is used for the growth of the algea, to protect them from the chemicals in the water and the damaging UV-spectra's ...
It might be so that this cargo-organisme has taken this/its ability's to use for its own benefit.
BUT : Sometimes Melatonin interacts with the immunesystem cauzing a CYTOKIN-storm. To much melatonin causes problems.

They are a category of signaling molecules that are used extensively in cellular communication. Oversecretion of cytokines can trigger a dangerous syndrome known as a cytokine storm; [link to en.wikipedia.org]
A cytokine storm, or hypercytokinemia is a potentially fatal immune reaction consisting of a positive feedback loop between cytokines and immune cells, with highly elevated levels of various cytokines. The primary symptoms of a cytokine storm are high fever, swelling and redness, extreme fatigue and nausea. In some cases the immune reaction may be fatal.
cytokines activate those cells, stimulating them to produce more cytokines.[2] Normally, this feedback loop is kept in check by the body. However, in some instances, the reaction becomes uncontrolled, and too many immune cells are activated in a single place. The precise reason for this is not entirely understood but may be caused by an exaggerated response when the immune system encounters a new and highly pathogenic invader. Cytokine storms have potential to do significant damage to body tissues and organs. If a cytokine storm occurs in the lungs, for example, fluids and immune cells such as macrophages may accumulate and eventually block off the airways, potentially resulting in death.


!!! BINGO !!!!
It is believed that cytokine storms were responsible for many of the deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed a disproportionate number of young adults.[1] In this case, a healthy immune system may have been a liability rather than an asset. Preliminary research results from Hong Kong also indicated this as the probable reason for many deaths during the SARS epidemic in 2003.[7] Human deaths from the bird flu H5N1 usually involve cytokine storms as well.[8] Recent reports of high mortality among healthy young adults in the 2009 swine flu outbreak has led to speculation that cytokine storms could be responsible for these deaths.[9] However, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have indicated that symptoms reported from this strain so far are similar to those of normal seasonal flu,[10] with the CDC stating that there is "insufficient information to date about clinical complications of this variant of swine-origin influenza A (H1N1) virus infection."[10]
!!! a means for new vaccinations ....

People with darker pigmentations have more melatonin in their body.
I think that the balance between the levels of natural melatonin is of importance wheter you get sick or not.
To low is not good, and to much is not good.
Ai ai ai ....


(Melamine : [link to en.wikipedia.org]

(melanin : [link to en.wikipedia.org] )


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PP confirms organism is attracted to darker pigmentation. Some GCP crew showing no effect at all during quarantine. they remain healthy. Melatonin meLamine (translation problem)
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Kidney failure by poisoning was perfected with Melamine included in milk and other products to increase the "counted" level of protein in fish and animal feed, then infant formula in China (2008)

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Melatonin : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Many biological effects of melatonin are produced through activation of melatonin receptors,[5] while others are due to its role as a pervasive and powerful antioxidant,[6] with a particular role in the protection of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA.[7]

In preclinical studies, melatonin may enhance cytokine production, and by doing this counteract acquired immunodeficiences.
.......

People with darker pigmentations have more melatonin in their body.
I think that the balance between the levels of natyral melatonin is of importance wheter you get sick or not.
To low is not good, and to much is not good.
Ai ai ai ....


(Melamine : [link to en.wikipedia.org]

(melanin : [link to en.wikipedia.org] )
 Quoting: Krispy71


From Krispy's link on melanin:

" Physical properties and technological applications

Melanins, in the synthetic sense, are "rigid-backbone" conductive polymers composed of polyacetylene, polypyrrole, and polyaniline "Blacks" and their mixed copolymers. The simplest melanin is polyacetylene, and some fungal melanins are pure polyacetylene.
....... Melanin also shows negative resistance, a classic property of electronically active conductive polymers. Likewise, melanin is the best sound-absorbing material known[26], because of its strong electron-phonon coupling. This may be related to melanin's presence in the inner ear."
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New hat is coming down, looks quite sophisticated.

My impression is : they have, till now, everything under control
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WHT?????
what kind of sub?????Nuclear powered????
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People with darker pigmentations have more melatonin in their body.

(Melamine : [link to en.wikipedia.org]

(melanin : [link to en.wikipedia.org] )

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Dear Krispy,

Dark skinned people have more...
wait for it...

melanin. :)
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New hat is coming down, looks quite sophisticated.

My impression is : they have, till now, everything under control
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Bzzzz! Not! Johnny, them what they won...

Pressures far beyond anything man has encountered in the natural world are not going to be contained by something weighing 150,000 lbs.

That is like plugging a .50 cal rifle with a cotton ball. This should be a quick and abrupt failure.
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O.K., I'm going away for now.
I'm glad OP is still posting.

You're alright Krispy hf
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People with darker pigmentations have more melatonin in their body.

(Melamine : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
(melanin : [link to en.wikipedia.org] )



Dear Krispy,

Dark skinned people have more...
wait for it...

melanin. :)

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Sorry I am a bit confiused (temporarely ..lol..)
What do you mean with "wait for it"?
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O.K., I'm going away for now.
I'm glad OP is still posting.

You're alright Krispy hf
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Have funn with whatever you are going to do ;) flower
Have a nice day !

Alright ?
Like in I am Okay,
like I am not NUTS ...lol...
or like in I am right about something ????
hahahaha ...
flower2

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O.K., I'm going away for now.
I'm glad OP is still posting.

You're alright Krispy hf


Have funn with whatever you are going to do ;) flower
Have a nice day !

Alright ?
Like in I am Okay,
like I am not NUTS ...lol...
or like in I am right about something ????
hahahaha ...
:flower2:
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You have a great sense of humor!

I'm not exactly sure of where "wait for it..." came from, but people say it for dramatic/humorous pause before dropping the big idea or punchline on you.

Yes, you are okay... hahahaha
good one :)
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>snip<


was this on offer for Pi???

[link to pibeta.web.psi.ch]


First : Bevvy can you explain what you mean ???
"Offer for PI"?



Next :
Ow noooooh ... lol... I am loosing my head.
Bevvy, I went to your link and clicked on "whats new" and then the first article on top about PIon decays.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are so many words in this wiki-page that ring bells,
for example :

- play an important role in explaining low-energy properties of the strong nuclear force (nuke force !!??)...
- a pion (short for pi meson; denoted &#960;) (which looks like .. .. II!!!) is any of three subatomic particles (? 3 vessels, or 3 strands of DNA)
- as the carrier particles of the strong nuclear force. (mail carrier agent)
- by bombarding carbon (!!!?) atoms with high-speed alpha particles.
(alpha particles wiki: two protons and two neutrons bound together into a particle identical to a helium (!!!)nucleus, which is produced in the process of alpha decay. > alpha decay wiki: Alpha decay is a type of radioactive (!!!) decay, and is governed by the interplay between the nuclear force and the electromagnetic (!!!) force.
In theory it can occur only in nuclei somewhat heavier than nickel (element 28), where overall binding energy per nucleon is no longer a minimum, and the nuclides are therefore unstable (!!) toward spontaneous fission-type processes.
Most of the helium produced on Earth (approximately 99% of it) is the result of the alpha decay of underground deposits of minerals containing uranium or thorium. The helium is brought to the surface as a byproduct of natural gas production.(!!)

* Alpha particles: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
alpha radiation is the most destructive form of ionizing radiation. It is the most strongly ionizing, and with large enough doses can cause any or all of the symptoms of radiation poisoning (sick sailors ??!?) . Not only do alphas themselves cause damage, but approximately equal ionization is caused by the recoiling nucleus after alpha emission, and this energy may in turn be especially damaging to genetic material, since the positive cations of many soluble transuranic elements which emit alphas, are chemically attracted to the net negative charge of DNA (??!!!!) , causing the recoiling atomic nucleus to be in close proximation to the DNA.(!!??!)

* Alpha decay: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

-In the modern understanding of the strong force interaction, called "quantum chromodynamics", pions are considered to be the pseudo Nambu-Goldstone bosons of spontaneously broken chiral symmetry. (goldstone !!??!!)

* Spontaneous symmetry breaking [link to en.wikipedia.org]
See this image on that page : [link to upload.wikimedia.org] It says : potential mexican (hat) function (!!??!)

For ferromagnetic materials (iron magnetic particles on hull !!??!) , the laws describing it are invariant under spatial rotations. Here, the order parameter is the magnetization (magnetisme is important key !!?!) , which measures the magnetic dipole density. Above the Curie temperature, the order parameter is zero, which is spatially invariant and there is no symmetry breaking. Below the Curie temperature, however, the magnetization acquires a constant (in the idealized situation where we have full equilibrium; otherwise, translational symmetry gets broken (cargo getting unstable?) as well) nonzero value which points in a certain direction. The residual rotational symmetries which leaves the orientation of this vector invariant remain unbroken but the other rotations get spontaneously broken.

- The use of pions in medical radiation therapy, such as for cancer, was explored at a number of research institutions, including at the Los Alamos National Laboratory's Meson Physics Facility, which treated 228 patients between 1974 and 1981 in New Mexico,(!?!) and the TRIUMF (!?! vessels TRIUMPHANT) laboratory in Vancouver, British (!!?) Columbia.[6]

- The nearly identical masses of &#960;± and &#960;0 imply that there must be a symmetry at play; this symmetry is called the SU(2) (OP used double words in a preveous posting : double US , double other, double comma's, double careFully .. ???!) flavour symmetry or isospin. The reason that there are three pions, &#960;+, &#960;&#8722; and &#960;0, is that these are understood to belong to the triplet representation (triple helix ?)
-Pions are pseudoscalars (!!!) under a parity transformation. Pion currents thus couple to the axial vector current and pions participate in the chiral anomaly.

* pseudoscalar : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Examples
1 the magnetic charge (as it is mathematically defined, regardless of whether it exists physically),
2 the magnetic flux (!!!!) - it is result of a dot (!!!!) product between a vector (the surface normal) and pseudovector (the magnetic field),
3 the helicity is the projection (dot product) of a spin pseudovector onto the direction of momentum (a true vector). (intelligent crystal GOO formations moving not random in a direction !!!)


Ooooh boy, I know this is way over many's heads !
No I am not crazy ...lol...
I see all those words as SIGNALS. For me that means that this information has some relevance whith the forming of those crystaline intelligent mass. Wheter it is linked with how it came to life or how the metabollic system is working, I dont really know ... But for me there are too many key-words -and linkings to other pages that confirm- to just ignore where my computer is leading/guiding me .... I can not ignore this.

This is creative thinking and intuïtion ... lol : intuïPIon hahahaha !

After this I hope I have still some credebility left whaahaha blink

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I'm sorry, I just put everything in there didn't I?

This is about consiousness, yes people are getting sick, as a result, but things are morphing due to changing conditions and new chemical interactions... I have 4 files of scanned pages from my book that I want to send you, can we do that thru this site in mailbox???

My brain is broken, can't think, not much sleep this weekend, and need to get up for work again tomorrow...have a lovely day :)
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@ WyldBloo

bighug

Tnx for the explenation xxxx
..lol...
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My ponderings:

Nuking the Deepwater Horizon well would be futile if there are other vents through many seafloor fractures. Also, some indications that a larger leak is just a few miles southwest of the Macondo site. The ThunderHorse leak might be large, too. A nuclear device would be injected down one of the relief wells in order to force the constriction of the blow-out hole.

But, if the seafloor is already fractured, with extreme high pressures beneath it, already forcing it upward, wouldn’t a nuke fracture it more and permit open release of that high pressure? A nuke can melt a fairly small region of silica into glass, but certainly not many square miles of seafloor. I can’t believe “they” will risk the catastrophic rupture of the seafloor. But, then, I have been reluctant to believe “they” would do many of the evil things they have done.

IF a biological organism has already been released, halting the oil flow won’t solve the “plague” problem. Perhaps Corexit was intended to kill the bad bacteria, but it didn’t get it all. I wonder if the tar balls are also carriers of the bacteria, perhaps even those being found up the Atlantic coast, lots of them along Cape Canaveral!

IF the biological organism is a sort of unstoppable plague, and IF it has already infected many coastal residents, then mass evacuations would vector the disease across the whole nation. IF this is a valid conjecture, a quarantine of the coastal residents would be more appropriate. Then, one might speculate that USNORTHCOM troops would be used to lock the gate, and that no more freight would cross their line into or out of there. Not a good prognosis for the captives.
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@ Bevvy

Yes you can send me things here, but I can not mail you back
(I dont have creditcard)

Hold on tight my dear, take your rest and nurture yourself with kindness.
Good night Bevvy.

flowers
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My ponderings:

Nuking the Deepwater Horizon well would be futile if there are other vents through many seafloor fractures. Also, some indications that a larger leak is just a few miles southwest of the Macondo site. The ThunderHorse leak might be large, too. A nuclear device would be injected down one of the relief wells in order to force the constriction of the blow-out hole.

But, if the seafloor is already fractured, with extreme high pressures beneath it, already forcing it upward, wouldn’t a nuke fracture it more and permit open release of that high pressure? A nuke can melt a fairly small region of silica into glass, but certainly not many square miles of seafloor. I can’t believe “they” will risk the catastrophic rupture of the seafloor. But, then, I have been reluctant to believe “they” would do many of the evil things they have done.

IF a biological organism has already been released, halting the oil flow won’t solve the “plague” problem. Perhaps Corexit was intended to kill the bad bacteria, but it didn’t get it all. I wonder if the tar balls are also carriers of the bacteria, perhaps even those being found up the Atlantic coast, lots of them along Cape Canaveral!

IF the biological organism is a sort of unstoppable plague, and IF it has already infected many coastal residents, then mass evacuations would vector the disease across the whole nation. IF this is a valid conjecture, a quarantine of the coastal residents would be more appropriate. Then, one might speculate that USNORTHCOM troops would be used to lock the gate, and that no more freight would cross their line into or out of there. Not a good prognosis for the captives.
 Quoting: WhiteBeard 747008


This reminds me of a posted link to that thread where the OP is talking in poëtry ...
About that there would be a SIGH, a relief in first instance and people would be happy ... but then the real doom would come to them (or something like that)

When this well is nucked that could cauze more presure on other leaks and fissures and that could lead to "Yaiks!"

I can also agree with the rest you are pondering ...
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this is getting serious. US politics making all the wrong decisions. US navy bringing forward couP.. we and russia not on board US navy plans for the Gulf of MEXICO. (watch Hawaii and watch jet propulsion laboratories geophysicist on the move)


Quoting op :merci doomamatrix, glp was the right choice in more ways than one :-)

Quoting doomamatrix :Pi Beta Phi we are pissing on your lawn....

P.. = PI The Greek letter &#960;, often spelled out pi in text, was first adopted for the number as an abbreviation of the Greek word for perimeter

So maybe op is saying they are bringing forward the perimeter in Mexico.

Just trying to piece the clues together..seems to fit in with what op is saying.
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bump

I think this was a real good post and observation !
But what "perimeter" could this be, and what was the old one?
How is Coup and PI-perimeter to link with each other ?
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In church tonight, prayed for the people of the GOM, for those who are working on that damn thing this night, for...everyone and everything in that region.

As the priest was putting away the chalice, the bell in the tower began to toll. No one else seemed to hear it.

I feel so...just dead inside. Just this dead calm of nothing matters...just like I had on 09/10/01.


Doom honey, I know that feeling. That 'it's all for nothing' feeling that can be overwhelming and suffocating as well.

STOP! Seriously, stop. The dread is stifling. I know that, and it's not easy to just *stop*. But you CAN. I am not overly religious, but I was raised by a religious mother and she taught me that words have meaning to our soul. For those who are spiritually trained in meditation, that comforts and brings peace. For those who are Christian, the word that the soul has been pledged to gives peace and comfort. The Bible also says when there is nothing left to do but stand, stand. And that's what you do. You stand with your head held high and bringing in the name of Jesus if he is your savior (I am assuming since you spoke of Church tonight) Whatever your religion, bring it in to your area tonight and pray for peace. Sometimes fear can be the worst thing in the world because it disrupts our thoughts and the lack of peace is almost painful. But don't let this fear rob you of that. You cannot save the Gulf of Mexico. You cannot save everyone that lives there as much as you empathize with them. All you can do is to pray that GOOD comes from this, whatever *this* is. That an awakening is realized for those not harmed. But please let this fear and disruption of peace go out of your spirit.


I agree with SR37 !

Remember me talking about the "intelligent" GOO that could be picking up vibrations (morphogenetic fields) ...
By ALL MEANS,
-pray for the positive
-meditate on influencing that growing matter in a peacefull and positive way, send it love !!!
-look towards the positive things that are comming out of this situation, like this thread that has been HEAVENLY and RESPECTFULLY (never saw a thread lasting that long without shilling and fighting and bashing !)
-connect in you hearts with all the people that are giving their passion and effert and dedication to this, no matter on what scale or in what way ! We form a UNITY !!!
-dont loose faith and foreall dont loose hope!
- yes people will die ... but some people believe that you are born with a task and desteny, maybe those people are fullfilling their contribution to this big lesson on earth and they will be free from pain and malice when they cross-over to the other side of existance.
-connect with Mother Earth, tune in on Her vibration ... and choose to do whatever that is needed to do for Her and Humankind & Nature. If you connect with her you will transform with her. Put yourself on her lap, like you did with your mother when your were scared and hurt when a child ... She is safe and will take care of you as was supposed to be. Connect with the planets and the Univers, to come into allignment with the changing energies. Tune in on those morphogenetic fields of energy, then your actions will harmonise with whatever is needed.
-Loosing hope and running scared is FEEDING the negative vampire-like energies that are linked with TPTB.
Keeping the faith high and the love and the hope will help you not to fall into their hands.
(But beware : when in the midst of THEIR power and surrounded by Their people > do not set yourself in The Light- DO NOT WORK WITH THE LIGHT AT THAT MOMENT !!! But cloack yourself in an illusional protection that you are one of them, and try to GET OUT. THEY are to strong to last/win in a confrontation on your own. These energies are MIGHT(ty)FULL !!! If detected, they will try to suck out the positive energies in you like a spider does with the fly .. BE WISE and protect yourself in a magic mantle of incognito/invisabilaty !
When UNITED with people that share the same energy you are safe again and can project the loving-energies to whatever point in the world that needs it.
(this maybe sounds WHooWoo, but I have experienced this myself, I was able to get away)
-loosing hope and letting depression get you down will make your DNA more vurnable to possible destructive or changing technologies ... , and also dont put yourself in a fortres of positivity : then you will be blinded for the true nature of whatever is comming and then you will be broken (down) as well ...
STAND in harmony with the things to come, stand in flexability and look for and lissten to the clue's and signs that are given to you. Go into SYMBIOSES with whatever commes, but with a heart full love-faith and hope !


I hope you understand what I mean and try to say.
Hope I didnt scare anyone to much with some details ...

In my thread I have a posting about the symbolism of A VOLCANO and asphalt-tar-bitumen ...
Look for posting 6/30/2010 8:15 AM (halfway the pag)
Thread: BP and TPTB, connecting the dots of voilcano-spill, magnetised water, new pole creation, new ice age and french sub

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 Quoting: Krispy71


Being the 'Skeptical Mystic' as I now consider myself (heeee) I have been pondering this. I know what you say is true, because I have experienced in my metaphysical training. I trained for a year and a day (those who know, will know what I mean) and I know it works. But the skeptic side of me lost faith because I couldn't justify it scientifically. I think in all this research, I can justify BOTH. A lot to do with your posts Krispy and for that, I thank you greatly.

So in learning about morphing, DNA mutation, etc... it seems it IS possibly to change your DNA midstream. A russian scientist changed the DNA in a tadpole so that it turned into a Salamander. Just this week, scientist changed a gene in a mouse to make it a lesbian. Therefore, can we change our DNA by thought? And are we a symbiotic unit as humans sharing a common DNA? I would assume so as with exception to those who suffer from mental disease with psycopathic or sociopathic disorders, feel an empathy that is pretty instinctual.

So as sort of an off topic post, CAN mysticism and science go hand in hand?
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sharkhunter
Shark is a type off class (level S ?) of subs
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


My guess, naming ORCA was only to point out that Whale is a S-hunter?
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THANK YOU so much !!!
I think 1 of the ruskie ships is that sharkhunter

(Orca was not only a pointer, but has shown up in many relevant links - such as a vessel, a lab, a kind of rover, etc ..
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Oh shit [link to www.helium.com]


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