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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Krispy,

Ignore them.
The trolls are trying to take over the thread because they are bored and also too Mommy must have managed to put their favorite porn sites on parental block figuring that if that doesn't make junior move his ass on out of the basement nothing will.

Your other picture does you more justice!
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Rocky, you've asked for some info and that's cool but since you logged in you've done nothing but stir up folks. Try to cool down a bit and be sociable, and ignore those who answer you in kind.
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For some time scientists and researchers have been aware of a vast amount of life in the cold depths of the oceans which have never been researched:
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A big question: Can the criminal elite at BP tell us what happens with these oil/methane feeding cold-water seep microbes when they are released from their normal habitat?




GAAAA That scared me to my bones...
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Housedad, if you thought the Katy-Dids are crickets, you must be new to the South. If this information really "scared" you, you must be on the coast.
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Born and reared in north GA.

Live in NJ. now.

What scared me is what I bold faced. A genetic cousin to current deseases. Who knows what horrors lay in wait for us in those muck domes.

It only takes one. And we will have no immunity defense.
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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BACKUP (Just in-case) of all Krispy's Summary/Resumé's to Date! (At the time of this post)

Also this was done to make things a bit quicker for all of you's great researchers on this thread.

If you want...just create a new folder on your computer, (RIGHT CLICK, SAVE TARGET AS) to download each of the (.htm) webpage files of all of Krispy's Summary/Resumé's to Date into that new folder you created. That way you got whatever Summary/Resumé part you want to view quickly



Thanx, all done :)(I needed the instruction, tech-o-phobe you know)!
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Got my copies too...
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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Well, I'm done. It's been a long day and night and day and night. See ya'll in the daytime.
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

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HOLLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE RUSSIANS HAVE RUSTY GOLD
WTF

"Rust Discovered On Bank Of Russia Issued 999 Gold Coins
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Here's a head scratcher: as everyone knows from elementary chemistry courses, gold is the most inert metal in the world - it does not rust, nor corrode. Yet this is precisely what Russian commercial precious metal trading company, International Reserve Payment System, discovered on thousands of (allegedly) 999 gold coins "St George" (pictured insert) issued by the Central Russian Bank. The serendipitous discovery occurred after various clients of the company had requested that their gold be stored not in a safe, but in a far more secure place: "buried under an oak tree." As the website of IRPS president German Sterligoff notes: once buried, "the coins began to oxidize under the influence of moisture." And hence the headscratcher: nowhere in history (that we know of) does 999, and even 925 gold, oxidize, rust, stain, spot or form patinas, under any conditions. Furthermore, as IRPS discovered, Sberbank of Russia released an internal memorandum ordering the purchase of the defective coins with the spotted appearance. Sterligoff concludes: "It should be noted that the weight and density of the rusty coins coincide with the characteristics of gold that would be expected after after conventional testing methods would reveal. We think that the experts will be interesting to determine the nature of this phenomenon." So just how "real" is 999 gold after all, either in Russia or anywhere else?"

more here:
[link to www.zerohedge.com]

thats how the russians have 80% of the remedy

because they are already producing algae farmed Au179

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first Whitebeard, your comments hit home, thanx hf


Now back to the Russians, I think I heard about 2 weeks ago that Russians bought about 80 million/ 800 million in gold....I will look for an article now.

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[link to goldnews.bullionvault.com]
[link to windowstorussia.com]
[link to www.ibtimes.com]


Also, I have been reading a book that talks about as consiousness raises the minerals on the planet will change or alter as our consiousness is connected to them... Earlier way back about 50 or even 100 pages and Aussie came in and spoke of a mineral that had been mined in Australia that when ingested raised his electric field...this mineral he said was quite unstable and when out of the ground it flouresced and broke down and blew away in the breeze... not a quote... This was also referenced in the book... I am trying to look into new minerals, isolated and unisolated, that have been discovered in the last 20 years or so...I think this is important...electrics magnetics and consiousness...maybe new bacteria is also where we are heading to in regard to our changing DNA.

just had to get that out of my head, don't know where I am going with it, sorry if is a bit confusing...

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so it's all about the gold...and being able to produce it...

thats how the russians have 80% of the remedy

because they are already producing algae farmed Au179(Au197?)
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and they have rusty gold....that's why they're so interested in what's going on in the gulf, and why they/BP are into deep well drilling...but what about it morphing into something that makes humans sick or kills them?..
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sleep tight Housedad...and everyone else too..
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Born and reared in north GA.

Live in NJ. now.
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As for me...Born and reared in Southern, Calif.

I also Live in NJ, since 1971. (Southern NJ, Port Norris, On the shore of Delaware Bay)
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looking for maps of caves systems in USA and found this, not related but interesting nonetheless

[link to www.anomalies-unlimited.com]

Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert? from A T S site

Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada.

During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. (Hawthorne is about 5 hours drive from Las Vegas and about two and a half hours drive from Reno.)

It used to read ‘Naval Undersea Warfare Training Center’. Today it reads ‘Naval Undersea Warfare Center’. They must have made the change in the past year or so. Maybe longer.

Hawthorne Nevada is a U.S. Army Depot where ammunition is made, tested and stored. Endless rows of ammunition bunkers dot both sides of the road.

Just to the north of Hawthorne is Walker Lake. The East Walker river drains into it and over the past 20 years has become shallower and shallower. The lake is about 18 miles long and about 8 miles wide the longer axis running north and south.

It can’t be very deep. I am not good at judging lake depths, maybe 100 feet? 150 feet? Certainly wouldn’t seem deep enough for a Ohio, Virginia, Seawolf, Los Angeles. Maybe that little nuclear powered Fast Attack Sub. But I know nothing about submarines.

And the lake itself certainly wouldn’t be big enough or deep enough to train for Undersea Warfare. Or so it would seem.

There are stories that California and Nevada sit on a shelf underneath which lies an eastern portion of the Pacific Ocean. Maybe the Pacific Ocean extends under that shelf to Hawthorne Nevada (and even further?).

Maybe there is some kind of access from the surface of the desert within the area occupied by the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. And maybe if you go deep enough there is a huge part of the Pacific Ocean in which the Navy conducts Undersea Warfare training.

Impossible? Improbable? So it would seem.

But let’s assume that it might be true. There would have to be a route from the Pacific Ocean to Hawthorne. If we take a set of dividers and place one end at Hawthorne Nevada and place the other end at the closest portion of the Pacific Ocean we would find that it is in Monterey Bay, just south of San Francisco. Just north of Fort Ord.

The distance is roughly about 212 statute miles.

Now let’s also assume that there is traffic both to and from Monterey Bay and Hawthorne Nevada. We would probably have to have to separate channels, one for each direction of travel. If it’s a sea how can we separate these channels? I don’t know.

Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours.



Here is a link to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Keyport Washington.

www-keyport.kpt.nuwc.navy.mil...

Here are a couple of excerpts from that site.


Our main facility is located at Keyport, Washington, in the Puget Sound region near the major components of the Fleet we support. We have Detachments located near our Pacific Fleet customers in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and San Diego, California. Fleet testing and logistics sites are located at Nanoose, British Columbia, and Hawthorne, Nevada.



Although NUTEC provides test and evaluation services wherever needed, the test center is focused at NUWC Division Keyport, Washington, building upon a foundation of over 90 years of undersea vehicle expertise. Here, in the protected waters of Washington’s Puget Sound, near Seattle, NUTEC offers extensive range instrumentation and support services at test sites at Keyport and in Dabob Bay and the adjoining waters in Hood Canal. NUTEC also provides a variety of portable test systems and distance support capabilities to facilitate unmanned vehicle testing at other Navy range facilities and at sites of operational interest world-wide.

Here is an excerpt from the Branton files:


The Underground Empire
( Branton -- File No. 008 )

In March of 1980, John J. Williams, a New Mexico "Patriot" who published the anti-Communist oriented "REBEL MAGAZINE" (at the time available from: Consumertronics Co., c/o John J. Williams. Pres., 2011 Crescent Dr., P.O. Drawer 537., Alamogardo, NM 88310) revealed some incredible details on an alleged subterranean system which the Navy had been exploring below the western United States. The report appeared in issue No. 6 of his magazine, and was later reproduced in the Fall, 1985 (#164) issue of SEARCH Magazine, at the time edited by Marjorie Palmer, widow of the late Ray Palmer.

The article, titled 'CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?', revealed the following:

"Some time ago, I heard a man on a TV interview-show briefly mention that parts of California and neighboring states are floating on the Pacific Ocean! He was a high ranking Naval officer on a top- secret nuclear submarine that has been (and is) exploring and mapping these enormous caverns and passage-ways underneath the West for over 10 years now.

"A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. He is now living quietly in retirement and asked that no details pointing to him be revealed as he does not want publicity and government attention. After writing this article, I destroyed my files on him. This is his story..."

Williams explains that not "all" of the areas in question are actually "resting" or "floating" on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean cavities below the western U.S., and they are not limited to California, and many of them consist of very large water-filled aqua-systems. These have been explored via nuclear submarines to several hundred miles inland, particularly in the region of southern California and the southern Oregon - northern California area. Williams continues:

"...When he retired several years ago, in spite of about 10 years of intensive Naval study, the Navy had not gotten even a handle on their exacts and dimensions. Today, the story may be different.

"He makes the following statements from his observations:

"1. The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet.

"2. Much like dry caverns do, heights and depths vary a great deal and in some cases, two or more caverns or passageways pass over or under each other at different depths.

"3. Most of the entrances lie just off the Continental Shelf (ie. in the Continental Slope - Branton).

"4. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep.

"5. Some of the caverns (in S. California) are topped with oil while some others are filled with gases believed to approximate our atmosphere (in very ancient times).

"6. The San Joaquin Valley is essentially a portion of the original cavernous area that collapsed eons ago due to it's sheer weight.

"7. What is being passed off as the 'San Andreas Fault' are large, unsupported chambers that are in the process of collapsing. When the BIG ONE finally hits, many scientists in the know believe that most of California will break off like a cold Hershey bar and slide into the ocean! (it is postulated by some that an ancient land-mass which some believe may have been connected to what is now California, broke off and sunk into the ocean during an ancient cataclysm - Branton)

"8. (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from it's disclosure. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. We will merely state that it involves a scenario similar to that which was portrayed in a James Bond movie, and which concerned underground caverns, silicon valley, nuclear weapons, and the San Andreas fault - Branton).

"9. A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious "recovery" effort. "I have no reason to doubt the man. I can't tell for sure whether or not these caverns and passageways exist or to their extents. The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. I have seen copies of documentation that at least prove that he was a high ranking Naval officer (nuclear submarine duty) and a distinguished scientist. In fact, his scientific background and reputation are impeccable. He definitely cannot be labeled as a crackpot, lunatic or publicity-seeker. I would very much like more information on this topic..."

After further inquiries to Mr. Williams on the part of 'inner earth' researchers, Williams responded with the following when asked whether or not he had received any replies to his request for more information about the alleged passageways below California: "Since publishing our article on the vast cavern network under much of California, we have received many responses and inquiries. Some of these responses appear to be knowledgeable sources. Note that the material sent to us for this article was written by someone of very high repute whose credentials I personally checked out.

Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. "One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? - Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. "Another response was from an anonymous person who cited unpublished oil company seismographical data, and stated, 'Although most of the caverns you depict in your drawing are smaller, larger or located somewhat differently than the actual caverns, you are essentially correct... My information is more up-to-date than what you apparently relied upon.' He (or she) did not supply any maps to pin down our differences, just some written descriptions. However, some knowledgeable person could probably deduce his (or her) overall 'map' from the voluminous seismographical data sent. I am in the process of looking for this input; it's been several years now and it may have all been thrown out... Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. "One incident which tends to confirm the fact that California is in fact floating on the ocean was a story which made the headlines in recent years.

This incident involved an oil discovery beneath Long Beach, California. When oil companies began pumping oil out of the ground beneath Long Beach it was soon learned that the entire city BEGAN SINKING INTO THE OCEAN! "It sank up to 26 feet and dikes had to be built to keep out the water. The problem is (temporarily) being rectified by 'water injection'--i.e. pumping an equivalent amount of WATER into the ground to the amount of oil and water taken out, in order to keep the city AFLOAT!"

One thing which may be of interest in connection with Mr. Williams' account was a statement which was made by a prominent California Bigfoot investigator by the name of Virginia Louise Swanson, who has done a good deal of study on caves and their connections to the Bigfoot phenomena. She refers to these caverns in the following words: "...Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. A certain type of earthquake would collapse all of it down to an enormous series of caverns that would open up into another Grand Canyon." According to our knowledge, the only nuclear submarines ever to disappear under mysterious circumstances were the U.S.S THRESHER and the U.S.S. SCORPION. It is uncertain whether the retired
Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity. The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or 'Flag' ship in the world's most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in noise reduction, and in fire-control. All in all, she was the most advanced international submarine in the world at the time of her disappearance and would have been an ideal choice for a top- secret mission such as the exploration of the caverns mentioned by John Williams' source.

On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. Commander John W. Harvey, USN, with a total of 129 men (comprised of the crew, civilian technicians, and observers) disappeared without explanation. NOT A SINGLE TRACE or clue as to the fate of the craft, or it's occupants, were ever recovered: no oil slicks, radiation, floating debris, or similar signs of wreckage were ever seen. It is interesting to note that almost all of the reports at the time stated the ship had "disappeared," or was "lost," not "sunk!" One woman whose husband was on the ill-fated ship reported her belief that her husband was still alive. Theologically speaking, the possibility of a long-distance connection or "communion" on a deep, emotional level between a husband and a wife should not necessarily be consigned to the realm of the occult or "psychic" phenomena. Many religions believe that the very spiritual natures of a husband and a wife are united upon the consummation of a marriage, and thus they become, as Christian teachings say, "one flesh".

The actual words of this woman, who was interviewed by Will Carson and Jeannie Joy--two writers devoted to pursuing strange events--shortly after the Thresher incident, were as follows: "My husband was on the submarine Thresher when it disappeared. I don't consider myself a widow. I don't believe my husband is dead. No, it's not a matter of just not being able to believe it, to accept reality; I just can't get over the conviction that he's still alive somewhere. I love my husband very much. I know he loved--loves me. We were very close. We could always tell when something was wrong with each other. Intuition, I guess. I should have felt something the instant there was trouble, if he was really in serious trouble and knew it--a matter of life and death--but I didn't." "What do you believe really happened?" Carson and Joy asked the attractive young woman.

"Most people think I'm crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured." "By whom?" "I can't say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor)--only I can't imagine how even the Russians could CAPTURE a vessel like the Thresher without leaving the slightest evidence!"

The following account, concerning an area just east of BISHOP (OWENS VALLEY), CALIFORNIA, was related by Val Valerian in his 'LEADING EDGE' Newsletter, Dec. 1989 - Jan. 1990 issue. The article, titled: 'DEEP SPRING'S, CALIFORNIA', stated: "Deep Springs, California is an area that is becoming known as the site for very strange events. According to the information released both on the air on KVEG-AM and from other sources, the area is full of strange people wandering around in black suits. There have also been rumors that there is an underground facility in the area. Checking with gravity anomaly maps proved that there are large cavities under the ground in that area. The wildest claims relative to the area have stated that alien lifeforms are being released there... Deep Springs Lake has been probed and it appears bottomless. Divers have traveled along an underground river 27 miles toward the Las Vegas area before having to turn around." (This 'river' would probably have been a 'partially' water-filled cave with a large stream or river flowing through it, rather than an entirely underwater passage, since 27 miles would undoubtedly be entirely out of the question if it were all underwater travel, with present diving technology - Branton).


Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. As I drove through Hawthorne I came upon the entrance to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center which is on the north side of the road I pulled over to the right and took out my camera to get a picture of the sign. As I rolled down the window and lifted my camera I heard a bunch of shouting and guards waving their arms from the guard shack.

I pulled across the road to the entrance just short of the shack a lady in Army uniform came over and told me I couldn’t take pictures. I mentioned to her that I was just going to take a picture of the sign which was less than ten feet from the highway. She told me I couldn’t take pictures anywhere around there.

I asked her if I could sign up for a tour. She responded vehemently in the negative. She then advised me that she should call the Military Police to confiscate my camera. I told her that I hadn’t had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. She waved me to turn around and jotted down my car license number. I was going to ask her if there were any submarines parked underground but she was Army and I figured she probably wouldn’t have known.

So. What do you think? Is there a vast underground sea under California and Nevada with tributary rivers running in various directions? Maybe one that goes to Las Vegas?

Is there a possibility that the Navy does operate submarines from Monterey Bay via an underground sea which extends underneath the San Joaquin Valley, then under the Sierra Nevada mountain range to a Naval Undersea Warfare Center deep below the Nevada desert in Hawthorne Nevada?

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Follow the Truckee River downstream from Reno. It is a roaring stream then it just disappears. wtf
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Woke up for a drink of water. Checking in.

Bevvy-

I remember my brothers and Father talking at length about a Submarine in the desert (or somewhere out west). It is basically a working submarine That had a operating nuclear reactor and power plant in it. It is used for training the technitians and officers as part of their training. Both brothers went there, and my father had to do something with the turbine systems there.

Whether it was underwater, above ground, or buried, I do not know. I would bet it is in a hardened bunker like affair with a lot above ground too. Security would be always very very tight.

That was many, many years ago, but I see no reason that they would not keep it up to date and still use it for final training.

Renegade may be able to tell you something more, if he was reactor trained for fire control tech or machinist mate, nuclear, or an officer. But he may not be able to tell much, as they are ordered to forget everything they learned about anthing sensitive in the Navy. That order carries for LIFE. You would also be suprised what they can tell a civilian to never say, under threat of national security. It sucks.

Anyway, I hope this helps.

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I should stress that it is a STATIONARY submarine. It doesn't go anywhere.

But like area 51, they don't really want the public to know about it. It keeps down unrest. Now that also means that all of the world governments probably know every thing about it. disinformation and conspiracy theories spread around and it helps confuse the issue and then they have plausable deniability that it exists.

After all it is just another conspiracy theory cooked up by the nutcases, isn't it?

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so this au 197 is turning dark skinned people into real live King Midas? kool.....until it kills ya i guess.
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I knew a guy that signed up for Naval Air when he joined the Navy, thinking he would get carrier duty. They stuck him in some place like Fallon Nevada. He said the largest body of water he saw was in the swimming pool. banana2
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999 is a scary number and calling something 999 complete is even scarier.
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Hello all

hello

@ Snowgoosbob

Many tnx for what you did !!!! Awsome !! :D
I just have to finish 5 pages and part 11 is also ready (pages 275-300) ...lol... Then I only have to catch up with part 7 .. But I thought it would be nicer to just for the moment skip part 7 and resume the things said lateron.

Yesterday I was thinking about making a whole new thread with only the resumé's haha ... so we were on the same level :D:D:D Nice!

A BIG HUG FOR YOU flower2


@ Breezy and Bevvy

Tnx Bevvy for mentioning what Breezy was also refering at on her/his search to what I was pointing 2 pages back.
This is indeed what I ment! And YES Breezy it was a sub with an S > Scorpio ...lol... Men You Guys Are Fantastic !!!

There was mention in your long post Bevvy that there were caverns filled with water, oil and gasses ...
Something inside my head tells me that such a patchword and labyrinth of caves and structures is also near the coast (under land and sea) of the GOM. And that just like is the case at the Andreas faultline, is the case at the new-Madrid faultline ...
Something tells me that what we discovered yesterday about the anomalous gravitational areas in the GOM near where the DWH was has something to do whith this all too , but I can not yet put a finger upon it.

What does heavy enlarged magnetical or electrical fields do with anomalous gravitational fields under the sea ????
(I am no expert in that, maybe one of you peepz knows an answer)

Oww something just popped in my head ... wow ..
OKAY :
Do you remember that there is a system in the sea (sorry I dont know the propper words and expressions *blush* )
That when under stress or changements in waterstreams (warmer currents) there are those flowery organisms (anemoons?) that are in fact incubators for jellyfish ...
It is something like the sead/eggs of jellyfish become those plants in normal times of prosperity. They are very sensitive to changements in their enviroment, and it was discovered (I saw it on Nat. Geographic) that in times of distress these organisms released hundrets of tiny eggs into the current that were to become jellyfish. That was the explenation for the monster bloom in population of some kinds of jellyfish (like in the area of china/Japan I thought)
I know that these depths at the oilspill are different and deeper, but what if such a system and organisme is active there right now as well ?
Here the words of OP that "the organisme was aggitated by electrical/magnetical fields" come again into my mind ...
We know that it is tested and proved that bacteria are blooming at an unbelievable rate in the oilplumes, so why wouldnt that effect other organisms ? Prehistoric ones, that now in combination whit a lot of different factors is activated as well ... we know from studies that many organisms can survive hundrets and thousands of years in stasis (in-active) .... We know that the waters in that area of the sea have climbed up, a result of that is the escaping of methane and the release of methanecrystals and hydrates.



Can you guys see the link that is forming in my mind?

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the James bond film referred to in the article about underwater caverns off the US coast might be "Thunderball", that was filmed largely around the Bahamas and Florida and the story line was about a British nuclear missile being stolen from a Vulcan bomber and hidden in an underwater cavern. That was a film made in the 1960's when the UK'S nuclear deterrent was carried by RAF bombers, for the last 40 years the UK nuclear deterrent has been carried by Royal Navy submarines. Thunderball is apparently US Army slang for the mushroom cloud created by a nuclear explosion.
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RE: Gravity... Gravity is a function of MASS. It follows then that if an area is honeycombed that the gravitational attraction will be affected.
Earlier there was a discussion of nuclear subs and the California coast. What I have been told is that there are overlapping plates on the West coast of America.One plate is tipped up and the corner that is above the sea level forms the Coast Range, the other plate is shoved under it with the touch point roughly where Las Vegas is. This Pacific plate is tilted and the parts sticking up out of the sea are the offshore islands. For those of you in California,Catalina Island is actually a different continental mass than California.
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the James bond film referred to in the article about underwater caverns off the US coast might be "Thunderball", that was filmed largely around the Bahamas and Florida and the story line was about a British nuclear missile being stolen from a Vulcan bomber and hidden in an underwater cavern. That was a film made in the 1960's when the UK'S nuclear deterrent was carried by RAF bombers, for the last 40 years the UK nuclear deterrent has been carried by Royal Navy submarines. Thunderball is apparently US Army slang for the mushroom cloud created by a nuclear explosion.
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and thunderhorse is slang for ????

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the James bond film referred to in the article about underwater caverns off the US coast might be "Thunderball", that was filmed largely around the Bahamas and Florida and the story line was about a British nuclear missile being stolen from a Vulcan bomber and hidden in an underwater cavern. That was a film made in the 1960's when the UK'S nuclear deterrent was carried by RAF bombers, for the last 40 years the UK nuclear deterrent has been carried by Royal Navy submarines. Thunderball is apparently US Army slang for the mushroom cloud created by a nuclear explosion.
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I'll look into that. Another little bit of English for me to learn. <I'm learning as much as I can to take American citizen test.>
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4978 feet was seafloor ?
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the James bond film referred to in the article about underwater caverns off the US coast might be "Thunderball", that was filmed largely around the Bahamas and Florida and the story line was about a British nuclear missile being stolen from a Vulcan bomber and hidden in an underwater cavern. That was a film made in the 1960's when the UK'S nuclear deterrent was carried by RAF bombers, for the last 40 years the UK nuclear deterrent has been carried by Royal Navy submarines. Thunderball is apparently US Army slang for the mushroom cloud created by a nuclear explosion.

and thunderhorse is slang for ????

one thouhgt I like to get rid of:
2 weeks ago this: [link to en.rian.ru]

can we put this in the picture??
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Tnx. yes someone posted that link way earlier in this thread also. Sometimes things have to be brought up again to make a better click ;)
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4978 feet was seafloor ?
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at 4643 feet plume/cloud
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4978 feet was seafloor ?

at 4643 feet plume/cloud
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What are you thinking about? Its about 300 feet difference

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Woke up for a drink of water. Checking in.

Bevvy-

I remember my brothers and Father talking at length about a Submarine in the desert (or somewhere out west). It is basically a working submarine That had a operating nuclear reactor and power plant in it. It is used for training the technitians and officers as part of their training. Both brothers went there, and my father had to do something with the turbine systems there.

Whether it was underwater, above ground, or buried, I do not know. I would bet it is in a hardened bunker like affair with a lot above ground too. Security would be always very very tight.

That was many, many years ago, but I see no reason that they would not keep it up to date and still use it for final training.

Renegade may be able to tell you something more, if he was reactor trained for fire control tech or machinist mate, nuclear, or an officer. But he may not be able to tell much, as they are ordered to forget everything they learned about anthing sensitive in the Navy. That order carries for LIFE. You would also be suprised what they can tell a civilian to never say, under threat of national security. It sucks.

Anyway, I hope this helps.

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Hmmm... never heard of this sub in the desert. The ssbn that I was on is now decommissioned and is classified as 'MTS' (moored training ship) for nuclear training and is in Charleston SC. I was not a 'nuke' (reactor trained) but was qualified in all areas, as was everyone else. I was a navigational electronic technician (NAVET)
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