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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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South Africa? Please elaborate. Are you 'The Red Barchetta'?
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yes, yes, yes....Thank you Renegade...
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I can recall some of that..and think I went to KC's blog even..but with one thing and another I don't think I gave it the proper attention at the time..any clue as to what pages I need to look for that conversation?

So you don't think one and the same...hmmm...but would be possible

Thanks AC for your input also...just seems as though everything goes around and around in circles and ultimately connects...


Yes, I do think it is possible. I see a connection between Acolyte, Gresillaud and nexuseditor.. and the AC who talked to the OP on the phone.. I have to look that up. Also, nexed said that he talked to his 'contact' on the phone


Pg 216 8:56pm
[link to 204.74.214.194]

edit for AC post. Here is the AC who talked to OP on the phone. He has an Aussie flag. Pg 338

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Some very genuine people have linked to this thread and followed it. You have also maybe done a lot of research and you wish to know fo sure about the OP.

For you I post the following:

I BELIEVE I KNOW WHO THE OP IS.
HE IS AUSSIE.
HE HAS POSTED UNDER ANOTHER NAME ON THIS THREAD.
HE GOT HIS INFO FROM SOMEONE ON BOARD A FRENCH NAVAL VESSEL IN THE GULF WHO WAS MONITORING RADIO TRANSMISSIONS, THEREFORE I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THE INFO IS GENUINE.(It is amazing what a bit of digging will do)


I have never met him though I have talked to him by phone.THERE WAS NO NEED TO USE CODE.I think that was just to keep the scent from leading to him.The vessel from which he was obtaining his info has left the Gulf. He has since posted under another name.

I can vouche for the info. It is at least what he received.
He is still posting on this thread and if he wishes to he can identify himself. He may have reason not to, so I say no more.

 Quoting: RenegadeSon


Also take note that Acolyte has not posted to this thread at all and yet he seems to be very familiar with the intel.
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I can recall some of that..and think I went to KC's blog even..but with one thing and another I don't think I gave it the proper attention at the time..any clue as to what pages I need to look for that conversation?

So you don't think one and the same...hmmm...but would be possible

Thanks AC for your input also...just seems as though everything goes around and around in circles and ultimately connects...


Yes, I do think it is possible. I see a connection between Acolyte, Gresillaud and nexuseditor.. and the AC who talked to the OP on the phone.. I have to look that up. Also, nexed said that he talked to his 'contact' on the phone


Pg 216 8:56pm
[link to 204.74.214.194]

edit for AC post. Here is the AC who talked to OP on the phone. He has an Aussie flag. Pg 338

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Some very genuine people have linked to this thread and followed it. You have also maybe done a lot of research and you wish to know fo sure about the OP.

For you I post the following:

I BELIEVE I KNOW WHO THE OP IS.
HE IS AUSSIE.
HE HAS POSTED UNDER ANOTHER NAME ON THIS THREAD.
HE GOT HIS INFO FROM SOMEONE ON BOARD A FRENCH NAVAL VESSEL IN THE GULF WHO WAS MONITORING RADIO TRANSMISSIONS, THEREFORE I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THE INFO IS GENUINE.(It is amazing what a bit of digging will do)


I have never met him though I have talked to him by phone.THERE WAS NO NEED TO USE CODE.I think that was just to keep the scent from leading to him.The vessel from which he was obtaining his info has left the Gulf. He has since posted under another name.

I can vouche for the info. It is at least what he received.
He is still posting on this thread and if he wishes to he can identify himself. He may have reason not to, so I say no more.



Also take note that Acolyte has not posted to this thread at all and yet he seems to be very familiar with the intel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 391217

Acolyte has been talking about this since at least 6/15
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South Africa? Please elaborate. Are you 'The Red Barchetta'?
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

This thread has RAND written all over it. Acolyte(my countryman lol) is a known RAND operative. He/She admitted it on threads here on GLP. Operatives use neural linguistics to mix fact with fiction and communicate with each other while testing public reaction. The RAND Corporation owns the T...STOCK institute.
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This user id has never posted here. What is the clue?

South Africa? Please elaborate. Are you 'The Red Barchetta'?

This thread has RAND written all over it. Acolyte(my countryman lol) is a known RAND operative. He/She admitted it on threads here on GLP. Operatives use neural linguistics to mix fact with fiction and communicate with each other while testing public reaction. The RAND Corporation owns the T...STOCK institute.
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Can you be more specific on the Rand Corp as there are more than one.. maybe a link. Are you familiar with Acolyte's statement that SHR (mod) knows all about his involvement with 'Rand'. I wasn't aware of the R and T connection.. thanks
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Copyright © 2010 RAND Corporation


This user id has never posted here. What is the clue?

South Africa? Please elaborate. Are you 'The Red Barchetta'?

This thread has RAND written all over it. Acolyte(my countryman lol) is a known RAND operative. He/She admitted it on threads here on GLP. Operatives use neural linguistics to mix fact with fiction and communicate with each other while testing public reaction. The RAND Corporation owns the T...STOCK institute.

Can you be more specific on the Rand Corp as there are more than one.. maybe a link. Are you familiar with Acolyte's statement that SHR (mod) knows all about his involvement with 'Rand'. I wasn't aware of the R and T connection.. thanks
 Quoting: RenegadeSon


Super! So how much of this thread is more T than the truth?
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S.Africa, why did u wait till now to tell us this?
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Sorry guy's I am a bit emotional seeing this VID that was posted in an other thread and forum...

CRABS FLEEING FROM FLOOD COZ THEY DO NOT WANT TO DIE ...




... sigh ...





PS : Good work RenegadeSon, Breezy and others.

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Hey super sleuths.... does someone have time, today, to complile some of these links from both this and the other OP's thread? I would do it, but need to leave for work...

My bets are on RAND Corp. headquartered in the U.S. (In Santa Monica,CA, I believe) -- they are a think tank that has done a tremendous amout of work for the Dept of Defense and the CIA in years past... I am fairly sure they have sattelite offices in a number of locations.

I do think this is important enough to follow up on, in the event that the OPs are either the same person, or have the same information.

If we are being played, so be it....
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my IP addy is constant and some change it seems...

I will just say, I don't believe in coincidence...

Me neither. In some of Acolyte's posts, he makes mention that he works at 'Rand'... Rand in south Africa is an airport. He also makes mention of the W.H.O.. (World Health Organization) which has an office in S. Africa. There is also a French Embassy in S Africa. All three of these places are within 35 miles of each other.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon


I have been reasonably sure that our OP and Acolyte were the same for some time, both due to the almost identical info posted and our OP's "clues" he left in case he somehow lost his access. Remember? One was liturgical, and one was a grammar term which means to suddenly switch concepts/grammar mid-sentence for effect.

Which indicated to me = Acolyte (a religious term) suddenly switches ID's to post as someone else w/ the same information.....

The thing is, just b/c we have a handle on who his other alias may be does not mean the info is not legit (unless the other handle is known for hoaxing or flat out being wrong). However, going on the assumption that they are the same person, neither the CDC info of travel advisories and a mystery Gulf disease has come to pass, nor have we been able to conclusively confirm much of anything given on this thread when several of them should have been able to be confirmed (such as a recent raised flight ban, among others). This has been a great thread to read and occ. participate in, but I can not help but notice that veritably NOTHING has been confirmed other than the fact that the OP has some knowledge of navel terminology and French Navel forces, among some other bits of arcane but google-able knowledge.

The whole thing doesn't "smell" like an intended hoax to me, but could very well be someone on the receiving end of some garbled inside knowledge who was simply wrong in his interpretations and for reasons known only to him felt the need to either hide his read ID or felt that the underlying story of a dude w/ DED access and a french GF was an acceptable lie in order to spread the truth as he saw it.

Just my 2 cents.... No offense meant to our OP, feel free to respond.
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yes, yes, yes....Thank you Renegade...
 Quoting: breezy

let me add...it was at that point...that I gave serious thought to nexuseditor as OP...because it seemed he had gotten a little irritated that everyone had gone off on a wild goose chase over one of OP's posts...he made a deliberate effort to bring us back to reality...after all OP had said that there was NO CODE included in that particular post, yet everyone seemed to ignore that, and continued to act as though there was...remember?
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Incidentally, we should all be aware that (as stated above) certain organizations that will show up in searches about RAND, Corp. will result in being banned on this site if you post their names.

I would hate to see this thread disappear, or some of our intelligent posters get banned because they don't know that.
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Hey super sleuths.... does someone have time, today, to complile some of these links from both this and the other OP's thread? I would do it, but need to leave for work...

My bets are on RAND Corp. headquartered in the U.S. (In Santa Monica,CA, I believe) -- they are a think tank that has done a tremendous amout of work for the Dept of Defense and the CIA in years past... I am fairly sure they have sattelite offices in a number of locations.

I do think this is important enough to follow up on, in the event that the OPs are either the same person, or have the same information.

If we are being played, so be it....
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This makes me feel sick ...
All my positivety sank through my shoes ...

Edit : add >
Hey sockmonkeywrench
Just to let you know that I dont have the energy right now ... sorry hf

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S.Africa, why did u wait till now to tell us this?
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I Made the connection in the past two pages. I Hope this will kill this thread. The mix of fact and fiction is not balanced and that annoys me.
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07/28/2010 02:32 PM
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perhaps I need to clarify something...I do NOT believe that the info on this thread is in any way false...but I do believe there is far more to some things than what meets the eye at first glance..

Krispy, I worked on an oil spill on the PNW coast...I cannot watch anything that has to do with the wildlife suffering...it truly devastates me...I'd like to believe that there is a serious visit from Karma awaiting..those who have been involved in this dastardly deed...

I have to get ready for an onslaught of teen aged girls this evening...I am hosting a sleep over...but I fully intend to keep up with what's happening here on this thread today...and will help research as possible...
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No worries, Krispy -- you have done SO much on this already! If I have the energy I will work on it tonight when I get home. Maybe someone else has the energy to do it today...

I have a gut feeling that there is a lot of truth in all this, perhaps interspersed with disinfo... but still worth deciphering....
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yes, yes, yes....Thank you Renegade...

let me add...it was at that point...that I gave serious thought to nexuseditor as OP...because it seemed he had gotten a little irritated that everyone had gone off on a wild goose chase over one of OP's posts...he made a deliberate effort to bring us back to reality...after all OP had said that there was NO CODE included in that particular post, yet everyone seemed to ignore that, and continued to act as though there was...remember?
 Quoting: breezy

Yes, I remember. And.. cheer up Krispy, after all, the world is a stage, and we are it's players.. some play their role unawares, and some, well, they are more aware of the 'play'. I think we are the latter.

There is some real 'meat' in this thread
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Don't get me wrong, I Suspect that a good percentage of the info given by the OP is Fact. This is how RAND works.

(I could be totally wrong about Acolyte and the OP. Its just my gut feeling)
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Don't get me wrong, I Suspect that a good percentage of the info given by the OP is Fact. This is how RAND works.

(I could be totally wrong about Acolyte and the OP. Its just my gut feeling)
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Do you think that he had DNAR authority?

Just maybe due to the severe nature of GOM, he went out on a limb?

Hey Krispy, hf
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Tnx all,

But seeing that vID made me so sad and torn appart .. It hit me hard. Just now I am so sad and angry for this crime against LIFE itself by the crooks who orchestered all this.
I cry for all the lives destroyed and killed.

I just gonna back off from the thread for a couple of hours to get grip on myself again, to clear my head and heart.

Take care all,
and keep up the good work !!! I am proud of you all for sticking around.

grouphug


Gonna be back lateron ... or tomorrow.
xxx
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he made a deliberate effort to bring us back to reality..
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ROTFLMAO!!

Yeah, back to the reality of the secret agent French girlfriend and the Slovenian submarines.
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Krispy, I hope you are feeling better when you come back.

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......

Yes, will add. NALCO officials need to explain who ordered millions of gallons of Corexit and when, or what information was used to run that much product. Wonder if they operate JIT?



Seems as though it was already manufactured, packaged and transported to.... it was already processed, that is the only conclusion. Talking millions of gallons from the get go.


We don't know when BP started disbursement of Corexit and whether they had it on hand in February to use with the fracked seabed from Well "A"

Best guess is BP fracked the seabed by drilling "A" then told NALCO they needed millions of gallons of Corexit. BP and US government agencies moved to conspire and plan a position to tell the public about the oil spilling without accepting blame. Suggest:

Feb - Cracked seabed
Feb - Order millions of gallons of Corexit
Feb - Conspire to cover up responsibility
Mar - Word of spill is out and stock moves
Mar - Bottom-feeders start manipulations for position
Mar - Bottom-feeders negotiate for an spill cleanup company
Apr - Early in month Corexit is delivered
Apr - Early in month public starts seeing leading articles
Apr 20th - Explosion and blowout, then rig sinks destroying all evidence of the crime perpetrated at DWH.
.....

The only other possibility for the buildup to the oil disaster is to accuse BP of staging the fracking of the seabed when it applied in March 2009 for permits for Well "A" and "B." That thought is so horrendous I don't want to go there. If the spill was planned in '09, then perhaps the millions of gallons of NALCO was ordered at that time for immediate disbursement on the Well "A" spill. How long does it take to produce millions of gallons of Corexit?

In any event, NALCO officials have to be complicent with the effort to hide the first spill from the public, which set the stage for the murder of the rig workers on the Deepwater Horizon Rig.
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Seems like it is two million gallons of Coreixt which has been disbursed:

" Congressman Nadler and Senator Lautenberg are working on legislation to ban it.

AMY GOODMAN: And I should correct myself: 1.8 million gallons, I think it is, of Corexit that’s been dumped. Sharif?

SHARIF ADBEL KOUDDOUS: And Hugh Kaufman—

HUGH KAUFMAN: Tha’s correct, almost two million gallons of—yes, sir.

SHARIF ADBEL KOUDDOUS: So the—

HUGH KAUFMAN: I’m sorry, I’m not—

SHARIF ADBEL KOUDDOUS: No, no, go ahead. The dispersant is—

HUGH KAUFMAN: I’m not hearing you, sir.

SHARIF ADBEL KOUDDOUS: These nearly two million gallons have been dispersed not only on the surface of the water, but also 5,000 feet below the water, as well. Can you talk about that?

HUGH KAUFMAN: Well, not only do you have airplanes flying and dropping them on the Gulf region, like Agent Orange in Vietnam, but a large amount of it is being shot into the water column at 5,000 feet to disperse the oil as it gushers out. And so, you have spread, according to the Associated Press, over perhaps over 44,000 square miles..."

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We must be mad sticking around here with these T---stock liars spinning yarns all the time.
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Krispy & others have put such a lot into this thread, all for it to be an evaluation program run by a South African in a think tank on behalf of the USA military/government.

This website really is a massive fail.
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perhaps I need to clarify something...I do NOT believe that the info on this thread is in any way false...but I do believe there is far more to some things than what meets the eye at first glance..

Krispy, I worked on an oil spill on the PNW coast...I cannot watch anything that has to do with the wildlife suffering...it truly devastates me...I'd like to believe that there is a serious visit from Karma awaiting..those who have been involved in this dastardly deed...

I have to get ready for an onslaught of teen aged girls this evening...I am hosting a sleep over...

but I fully intend to keep up with what's happening here on this thread today...and will help research as possible...
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I feel for you, been there, done that, and they took my shirt!!
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We must be mad sticking around here with these T---stock liars spinning yarns all the time.
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Have you got a better place we can meet?
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Day 101 on July 29 - What can we expect?

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Good day. I have limited access., Increased security at office today and for this WEEK, girlfrienD expects they will be in semi lockdown for this WeeK. (her supervisor told her that there are serious decisions going to be made this week. On WEDnesday senior staff will meet with personnel from other embassies,, she frankly thinks the "others" world is tired and wont wait the full 101 days as requested. )

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