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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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addition to above post.
Mentions Yellow Sea and Straight of Hormuz. May be additional theatres.
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addition to above post.
Mentions Yellow Sea and Straight of Hormuz. May be additional theatres.
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Hello all flower

Seemed that OP was bussy today ...lol...
I was out on a date and just returned. It is almost 1.00 afther midnight here in holland. And I have appointments tomorrow, so will not be around much ... sorry ...

I have read OP's posts and all of yours too.
Tnx for those who posted they missed me and had a crush for me ... > so sweet !

I agree with this AC.
I am Sure the 4 theaters are :
1- GOM
2- Gulf of Aden
3- Yellow sea
4- Straight of Hormuz
Cant remember if they were mentioned by the OP or Acolyte in one of his postings.
But I know for sure.

Will have a look at some of the other info given.
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Cable to the remote sonic drilling head I'll bet.
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I guess you are almost right Houzie.

Internet might not be OUR INTERNET but an INNER NETWORK connecting A and B.

Remember all the cables we see on the seafloor ?
I believe some of them are for other things then just the BOP and the ROV's.
Remember that pille of rubish looking junk with that blue digital screen ? I forgot who -sorry- -housedad?- thought it were the remains of a destroyed ROV ... but with a still active digitscreen. My thoughts were that it was a sort of partly hidden instalation and cables and hoses/pipes that are connected with that instalation with that golden looking disk under it and that golden dripper in the little pipe comming out of that apparatus ... like they are distelating/brewing something. (my guess was gold)
Anyway, it could be many things more then what I or houzie thought.

But I am sure that they are cutting important connection cables of an interim network, an intra-net ... that transports data from A to B ... whatever they are.


Maybe tommorrow one of you can look up the procedure how sonic drilling is done ... remote control or with cables.
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I keep seeing flags hoisted, then story is confirmed true.

Anyway folks, it is now about 8:00 PM in Amsterdam (Or wherever she is)so it looks like we are on our own for today/tonight. I will be off work at 4:30 Pacific Time (now 12:00) and will be able to spend more time figuring out the puzzle.

EDIT: WE NEED KRISPY!!
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Some more theater:



and here is where India get's its upgrade on Subs:

Russia to modernize fifth Indian submarine
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Russia has built ten Kilo class submarines for India and has already overhauled four of them at the Zvezdochka shipyard in the north of the country.
The upgrade program includes a complete overhaul of the submarine, including its hull structures, as well as improved control systems, a sonar, electronic warfare systems, and an integrated weapon control system.
Russia's Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines are well-known for being extremely quiet boats, ...
snip
[link to en.rian.ru]


Next report is much older (17.03.2010)
India to get Russian nuclear submarine for 10-year lease - paper
snip
Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.
snip
[link to en.rian.ru]



of course, both are friends and holding joint exercises:

Russia and India hold joint military exercises
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Russia and India enjoy longstanding and close ties in many areas.....
This cooperation began in the 1960s, soon after the Indo-Chinese border conflict....
Russia supplied about 70% of India’s military hardware....
The upcoming exercises will add considerably to Russian-Indian military cooperation. The situation around the world changes from year to year, and therefore the goals and objectives of these exercises also change....
..
Tatiana Shaumyan, director of the Center for Indian Studies at the Institute of Asian Studies, discusses the state of Russian-Indian relations and the prospects for defence cooperation between the two countries.
[link to en.rian.ru]


forming part in those joint exercises is the russian heavy nuclear missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky, who just rushed into the Indian Ocean, coming from naval exercises in the Pacific (Vostok 2010 operation):

Pyotr Veliky cruiser, INS Trishul to hold exercises in Arabian Sea

Russia's Pyotr Veliky nuclear-powered guided-missile cruiser and Indian Talwar class missile frigate INS Trishul will conduct a joint PASSEX-type naval exercise in the Arabian Sea on Wednesday.

The warships will practice joint maneuvering and carry out several communications drills.

The Pyotr Veliky, the flagship of the Russian Northern Fleet, is returning to its home base in the Barents Sea from large-scale naval drills in the Pacific Ocean. The cruiser called at the port of Mormugao in the Indian state of Goa on August 6. There it replenished water and food supplies.

[link to en.rian.ru]


Infographic of PYOTR VELIKY:
[link to en.rian.ru]
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[link to www.debka.com]

To meet increasingly defiant Iranian threats to US regional military forces, Washington has detached the USS Truman carrier from support duty for Afghanistan in the Arabian Sea and reassigned it to Dubai opposite the Gulf of Oman and the Straits of Hormuz with thousands of marines aboard.

Reporting this, debkafile's military sources note that the Iranian submarine attack on a Japanese oil supertanker last month near Hormuz underlined the urgency of heightened security for keeping the vital straits open.

[link to www.debka.com]
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More Theater:

Navies of India, Brazil, SA to conduct wargames

Four Indian warships are being dispatched for a two-month-long overseas deployment along the African coast this week, which will culminate in complex trilateral wargames among Indian, Brazilian and South African navies.

Destroyer INS Mysore, frigates INS Tabar and INS Ganga, and tanker INS Aditya will also patrol the Exclusive Economic Zones of Mauritius and Seychelles, as also conduct PASSEX exercises and make port calls on Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique and other countries.

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]
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Just some snips of info from the summaryies that might shed a light again on some things :


ODESSA

-Odessa Protocol: All I can find on this is that it is some sort of multi-national agreement hinged around environmental preservation.
---Bevvy 9:06 AM (pag 434) ODESSA, (from the German Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen, “Organization for Former SS Members”) is believed to have been an international Nazi network set up toward the end of World War II by a group of SS officers in order to avoid their capture and prosecution for war crimes. ...(snip)... The purpose of ODESSA was to establish and facilitate secret escape routes, later known as ratlines, for SS members out of Germany and Austria to South America and the Middle East.
---Hans TM 11:15 AM Odessa was/is a semi secret group of veterans and others who are suspected of all manner of skullduggery against the current government in Germany. They are rumored to want to continue the Third Reich.
---Freddie Forsyth towns in Texas, Louisiana and Florida called Odessa. also, Odessa in Ukraine used to be a Soviet naval base.


-Krispy 12:46 PM Krispy's code-cracking "Good day, on Wednesday my girlfriend told me that 14 European nations with russia china india and japan approved the Odessa Protocols at the embassy meeting. This morning the DED shows the change in DED signatures and that there are already 7 new vessels from the Odessa Fleet near the rim. 3 of the odessa fleet vessels are russian, 1 from germany and one from norway, 2 are from a salvage company registered in the netherlands and are not navy."
GWErcijOPTDEDDEDOFofrgnn 14 7 3 1 2 (see post for detail explenations)
* war establishment: the level of equipment and manning laid down for a military unit in wartime.
** Google 14, war establishment ... Brought me to :
-war establishment : The level of equipment and manning laid down for a military unit in wartime. Fourtien points.
-Fourtien points : [link to www.answers.com] (more info) Outline of proposals by Pres. Woodrow Wilson for a post – World War I peace settlement, given in an address in January 1918. The emphasis on "open covenants of peace, openly arrived at" was proposed to change the usual method of secret diplomacy practiced in Europe. Other points outlined territorial adjustments following the war. The last point called for "a general association of nations," which presaged the League of Nations.
It was replaced in 1946 by the United Nations.
-League of Nations : [link to www.answers.com] It included provisions for arbitrating international disputes, reducing armaments, and imposing collective military and economic sanctions against any nation that violated the political independence and territorial integrity of another. However, the United States never joined the League of Nations because irreconcilable disputes developed between progressives and conservatives in the American internationalist movement over whether the United States should be able to expand its army and navy and exert force independently.
So 14 is the course indicator, or is a pointer towards the Fourtien Points peace settlement and rules
The purpose of ODESSA was to establish and facilitate secret escape routes, later known as ratlines, for SS members out of Germany and Austria to South America and the Middle East. The Leage of Nations (number 14 in OP's message) and Odessa are linked !!!!See this google for the many results :
[link to www.google.nl] Maybe OP is trying to tell that those countries decided to use these old "routes" ... on their way to THE MISSION.

-Krispy 9:19 PM (very long post, see pag 348) So the Odessa-Protocols and Odessa Fleet are linked with Russia ... wich has the lead in the decyphering of the CargO ...
More interesting on ODESSA : City of Odessa, and ODESSA and ISRAEL & USA connection :
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

-Bevvy 8:35 AM I didn't know other threads were talking about Odessa and omega?? Thread: A CHRONICLE OF THE WORLD AT WAR III (The Buildup ) (Page 5)
Acolyte posted yesterday: "Todays update: ODESSA indicating OMEGA is unstable."


SAMPSON

-TexTamale 3:37 PM Navy christens new guided-missile destroyer SAMPSON Sea Classics, Dec 2006
"The latest Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, Sampson (DDG-102), was christened 16 September during a colorful ceremony at Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine. (...) Designated DDG-102, Sampson is the 52nd of 62 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. This highly capable multimission ship can conduct a variety of operations, from peacetime presence and crisis management to sea control and power projection, in support of the national military strategy. Sampson will be capable of fighting air, surface, and subsurface battles simultaneously. The ship contains myriad offensive and defensive weapons designed to support maritime defense needs well into the 21st century. (...) a crew of approximately 292 men and women. The 9200-ton Sampson was built by Bath Iron Works, a General Dynamics company, and is 509.5-ft in length, has a waterline beam of 59-ft, and a navigational draft of 32-ft. Four gas turbine engines will power the ship to speeds in excess of 30-kts." [link to findarticles.com]

-Doommamatrix 4:26 PM One more thing about Sampson in connection with an Israeli sub: Sampson History .
He was the strongest of the Israelites in the Old Test. His strength was via his hair which was long and full. In the bible, Daliah tricks Sampson, cuts off his hair and renders him powerless. He was taken captive by the Philistines who put out his eyes and abused him greatly. One day, the King was feasting and ordered the once mighty Sampson brought before him so that all could make fun of him.
Sampson had the last laugh as his hair had grown back and with it, his strength returned. Standing between two pillars of the hall, he pushed and brought the place down on everyone killing all. To me, a Sampson alert would mean a mission in which one would die but not before they took out of lot of the enemy.

-AC NL 8:38 AM Trying to find some leads : "central command confirms Mistral analysis and issuing dedicated SAMPSON classification on new israeli submarine. DED going crazy again. BEZERK level 2"
Sampson: [link to en.wikipedia.org] (this one) and [link to www.public.navy.mil] ,
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
SAMPSON dedicated ships [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Sampson heading RIM-PAC ("watch") Hawaii [link to www.navy.gov.au]
(Israel) Sam(p)son option [link to en.wikipedia.org] and [link to en.wikipedia.org]

-Karu 2:10 PM Remember the Sampson Option? [link to en.wikipedia.org]
"The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well."


ISRAELI SUBS

---krispy : OP said that this one was VERY VERY NEW ! "Good day, (...) there are now two israeli subs. the new one is very very new. its classification is above DED. Mistral indicating a possible hostile classification on Israeli submarine"

-White Widow 4:52 PM All about Israelian Submarines [link to www.nti.org] (To long to post all but worth reading) Extract: "While HDW has stated that Israel's Dolphin-class submarines were equipped with weapon systems similar to those installed on other diesel-electric submarines, various sources have reported that upon their arrival in Israel, the submarines were modified, and fitted with cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads. (...) The modernized Dolphin-class combines a conventional diesel led-acid battery system and an air-independent propulsion system (AIP) which makes the vessel extremely quiet and allows it to remain submerged for up to a week without surfacing. (...) The two most recent submarines that Israel has purchased are modernized versions of the Dolphin-class that include an AIP system, larger fuel tank, fuel cells equipped with oxygen, and hydrogen storage. These vessels are said to be able to remain submerged for longer periods of time than the three existing vessels."


SUPER WEAPON

-Housedad 4:17 PM 7/14/2010 ( pag 270)
(BP super-weapon : [link to beforeitsnews.com] )
Successful Test of Nuclear EPFCG (to stop the oil gusher) [link to www.freerepublic.com]
-According to sources at the test site, there would be two near simultaneous explosions from the device. The first detonation would be an induced Plasma event made by an ectromagnetic pulse than would generate enough heat to melt the rock and metal, followd by a percussion wave that would briefly neutralize the huge pressure in the well. In a few microseconds thousands and cubic meters of bed rock and metal would be instantly fused together sealing the oil well.
- EQ's : 3.8 and 4.2 registered [link to earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca] Report said Ft McPherson is 80 KM from the test site. Map on link shows that. Located the epicenter of the quake, and located Fort McPherson. They are 47.5 Miles apart, or 76.4 KM. There's nothing on the USGS site.
-Thread : Not a single aftershock EQ canada Thread: Don't you find it strange (NOT A SINGLE AFTERSHOCK AFTER CANADA QUAKE)
- (pag 271) "Preliminary reports suggest that the device was detonated 500 meters underground at a location deep in the Canadian Arctic. Stage 1 of the test occurred at CFB Suffield where a non-nuclear EPFCG was detonated in a operational oil well. Stage 2 was the testing of the nuclear percussion weapon in the high Canadian Arctic."
-Karu : "Some sort of soft metal would also have to be pumped into the well before the EPFCG device could be detonated". What kind of metal could it have been? Nano metal? >
-Housedad: My earlier post on Pag 253 > cute. A organism that can coat itself with gold and possibly plutonium or uranium. Makes a nice open lattice of material. There really is no other way to create a fluffy lattice than that. Would be really great if the organism can live in a high deuterium environment like heavy water. Surround that with a Berillium shell, put a few shaped fission bombs around the outside and voila', a really nasty that would create a hell of a magnetic pulse. Nasty nasty
-Housedad 5:46 PM Crap, I just realized. They only have a few inches in the pipe to work with. Not enough room for a standard device. Fusion bomb to make a pulse. to make it work, they need a foam outside to make a plasma magneto pulse with the gold. Not easy. The microbes provide that. Shove some microbe/gold fluff down the pipe, Insert a small berillium shell encasing some deuterium(no shielding as it needs to fit the pipe.)attached to a Fissile x ray trigger, and you have a Great little magnetic pulse bomb sitting in the pipe. Now THAT would fit in a 8 to 12 inch pipe!! What happens if someone pulles that device out of the hole?
What would it look like? The device itself would be about 80% of what they get out. The other 10-20% of what they pull out would be gold slush would be stuck to it too... Radioactive due to no shielding Bada Bing

-A must READ !!!! : 'Why BP is Readying a 'Super Weapon' to Avert Escalating Gulf Nightmare' : While the plan would admittedly only be executed if a worst case scenario seemed imminent, some geo-chemists have expressed concerns that detonating a nuke in the Gulf might ignite the methane. (...) Sea floor compromised (..) The OMEGA plan, (...) The EPFCG—a Star Wars super weapon,(...) Meanwhile the preparations for the test continue in Canada. [link to www.salem-news.com] (pag 252)
-OP's post on July 4... 3 days before this plan released.. FULL OMEGA level naval ALERT !!!!
-Scientific Collaborations Between Los Alamos and Arzamas-16 Using Explosive-Driven Flux Compression Generators - PDF [link to www.fas.org]
-An Introduction to Explosive Magnetic Flux Compression Generators - PDF [‘Stamped; DO NOT CIRCULATE’]
[link to www.fas.org]
-Magnetized Target Fusion - An Ultra High Energy Approach in an Unexplored Parameter Space
[link to library.sciencemadness.org]
(Note from krispy: LOTS OF ILLUSTRATIONS on HOW IT MIGHT LOOK !!! I think we have seen kindalike things on cam several times ! ...)
-the technology of a new torpedo : 'SHKVAL a super cavitation torpedo' : [link to www.articlesextra.com]
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WE ARE SAVED!! KRISPY IS HERE!! dogpile hearts flowas
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<op>Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. </op>


OP appears to have excellent command of the English language.

Given that, this message is saying the the US nuclear submarine Missouri has taken exception to protocol because the GCP guarantine proved successful and transfer has been completed.



I took that to be a typo, which perhaps should have read:

"Missouri accepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete."

Seems to fit better, to me...
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I don't recall that the Missouri was said to be going to GOM. Our information was the ship was in the Atlantic and we were given travel time, don't recall a stated destination. Costa Rica may be the ship's destination.

Suggest that the Missouri is excepting protocol because of the "containment" and "transfer" and is no longer needed with other Odessa assets with which the US Navy is now cooperating.
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Calling OP ...
Calling OP ...
Calling OP ...
Calling OP ...
Calling OP ...
Calling OP ...

Who is doing the sonic drilling in the Gulf of Mexico?
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<op>Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. </op>


OP appears to have excellent command of the English language.

Given that, this message is saying the the US nuclear submarine Missouri has taken exception to protocol because the GCP guarantine proved successful and transfer has been completed.



I took that to be a typo, which perhaps should have read:

"Missouri accepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete."

Seems to fit better, to me...



I don't recall that the Missouri was said to be going to GOM. Our information was the ship was in the Atlantic and we were given travel time, don't recall a stated destination. Costa Rica may be the ship's destination.

Suggest that the Missouri is excepting protocol because of the "containment" and "transfer" and is no longer needed with other Odessa assets with which the US Navy is now cooperating.
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OP's post..

7/31/2010 12:54 PM
Good day, Mistral told 2us 4 hours ago to be aware that USS Missouri is possibly enroute to outer rim. ATA in 48 hours. inner rim ATA 72 hours. All indications point that Missouri has Russian calibrator fitted.
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least we forget (for those with little knowledge in geography)

Odessa is a city in Ukraine

The city is a major seaport located on the northwest shore of the Black Sea and the fourth largest city in Ukraine with a population of 1,029,000

Odessa is a warm water port, but militarily it is of limited value. Turkey's control of the Dardanelles and Bosphorus has enabled NATO to control water traffic between Odessa and the Mediterranean Sea. The city of Odessa hosts two important ports: Odessa itself and Yuzhne (also an internationally important oil terminal), situated in the city's suburbs. Another important port, Illichivs'k, is located in the same oblast, to the south-west of Odessa. Together they represent a major transport hub integrating with railways. Odessa's oil and chemical processing facilities are connected to Russia's and EU's respective networks by strategic pipelines.

do you see the alliances??

and here is another snipet from greek history:

In the context of ardent desire for independence from Turkish occupation and with the explicit influence of similar secret societies elsewhere in Europe, three Greeks met one another in 1814 in Odessa and decided the constitution of a secret organization in a freemasonic fashion; its purpose was to unite of all the Greeks in an armed organisation, in order to eventually throw off the Ottoman rule. These men were Nikolaos Skoufas from Arta province, Emmanuil Xanthos from Patmos and Athanasios Tsakalov from Epirus.[1] Soon after they initiated a fourth member, Panagiotis Anagnostopoulos from Andritsaina.
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<op>Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. </op>

OP appears to have excellent command of the English language.

Given that, this message is saying the the US nuclear submarine Missouri has taken exception to protocol because the GCP guarantine proved successful and transfer has been completed.


I took that to be a typo, which perhaps should have read:

"Missouri accepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete."

Seems to fit better, to me...


I don't recall that the Missouri was said to be going to GOM. Our information was the ship was in the Atlantic and we were given travel time, don't recall a stated destination. Costa Rica may be the ship's destination.

Suggest that the Missouri is excepting protocol because of the "containment" and "transfer" and is no longer needed with other Odessa assets with which the US Navy is now cooperating.

OP's post..

7/31/2010 12:54 PM
Good day, Mistral told 2us 4 hours ago to be aware that USS Missouri is possibly enroute to outer rim. ATA in 48 hours. inner rim ATA 72 hours. All indications point that Missouri has Russian calibrator fitted.

 Quoting: RenegadeSon


Yes Renegade, thank you for looking up OP's post. If Missouri is "excepting" the protocol, that ship may be out and it is helpful to us to know.

Please note that OP's earlier post has given us same timeline, but in reverse: "...next 72 hours + 48 hour twilight Alert"

"Good day, this is 8hours old. ( I had difficulty posting due to IP ban on this site, its now resolved, merci to a friend)

KremPP has issued the following standing order to all russian vessels and those of friendly interest in all four theaters::

all submersible strategic, commercial or private research assets to stay below surface and at least 150 feet below periscope depth and run silent for the next 72 hours + 48 hour twilight Alert

all surface vessels to resume t-o-k-e-r-r-romp standby positions and relay when they are in position on vector channels ONLY

the above includes all Odessa Fleet assets as per protocol update as annexed in Paris/Moscow codicil
if engagement arise follow said protocol
Mistral requesting 2us to comply. Mistral already in r-o-m-p position. standby
(difficulty with translation)"


Some have asked what could be the reason for staying submerged and running silent. Question for anyone: If there is an underwater magnet to start up an induction process to scoop up the magnetized Corexit/Oil mix, will undersea units with magnetics need to keep them turned off for the startup process?
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GOLGOTHA CONFIRMATION

THE GUILT OF GOLGOTHA
"Thou Shalt not Kill!"

He who does so frees himself from all burden and guilt, likewise from the guilt of Golgotha, which according to the Eternal Laws now returns at this time in order to be redeemed. For him the Golgotha cross of suffering will be changed into the redeeming Cross of Truth, which victoriously conquers all Darkness!
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]


Golgotha is about GENOCIDE
-Armenian Golgotha: A Memoir of the Armenian Genocide
- *Golgotha*: *A* *place* *or* *occasion* *of* *great* *suffering*;
-He (jesus) was bearing his own cross to the place called the “place of the skull” which in Hebrew is called Golgotha,


GOLGOTHA as place of skull, could refer to the mision of a genocide from the party that sended this special "very very new" Israeli sub to the theater.
The words SKULL does remind me of SKULL & Bones/Illuminati/etc .. which leads my mind again to a posting I did in Alocyte's RUMOR thread about hint that the Crescent Moon was an Islamic faction of the ILLUMINATY.



OP, what does Crescent moon refer to?

Is this Odessa?

Turkey?



Crescent moon? why do you ask?

Anyway, it is the Islamic faction of the illuminati
Quoting: Acolyte


Article 1 : [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com] With the illustration of a crescent moon:
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com]
Verrrrry interresting information !!!
Why ow why do I think that BIG-O b.a.m.a. is of this masonic brotherhood ...
Snip out of article : "...At its highest level, the Muslim Brotherhood is not Muslim. Nor is it Christian, Jewish, or part of any religion. In the innermost council are men who change their religion as easily as other men might change their shirts...."


Article 2: [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

Comment of writer:
Submitted by David Livingstone on Fri, 02/27/2009 - 09:02.
In response to the two comments about my sources, I wrote this article merely as a basic intro. There is far too much material to offer supporting evidence here. The rest is in my book. That’s where I go into the details. There are not only many fascinating details about this specific subject, but also about it’s place in a greater context. The role of the Muslim Brotherhood as modern-day Ismaili Assassins, and their relationship with the current manifestation of the Templars, or Scottish Rite Freemasonry, lies at the very heart of the mythology of the Illuminati. So it appears that a secret occult relationship with Islamic terrorism is almost the very basis of Illuminati activity.



Is this what you mean OP?
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The message:
Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

-The Missouri is out/excluded from the (?safety?) protocol coz of the succesfull quarantine test (the remaining sailors were threated from their nanomorgellons)
-A transfer is complete ... ??? ... sailors transfered ? cargo transfered ?
-US Navy joined?/?agreed with the mission of the Odessa fleet ? ...
-Israeli sub could be litteraly cornered by other subs ... or could be cought in its plans and is therefor "cornered" > has to do with revealing the truth (of its mission)
- Sampson option could be a (at a certain/specific time to be remotely detonated) missile or planted destruction-construction on the seafloor that now is disabled by a rogue crew ... dishonest, deceitful and unreliable group/crew .. ???
Did the Israeli sub disabled the Sampson Option that was planted by the Odessa fleet ? Is that Israeli sub the rogue ?
Hmmmz what was said again about the sampson option ? have to look if it could be truth that is a option that could be used by the odessa-fleet in case of emergency ???
We have to figure this out !
-US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation >>> Maybe not ON BOARD OF VESSEL but "on board" with plans, in agreement with, working togetter with ... Or "on board" next to the side of the ship.

IN some way it sounds a bit strange and odd that the US NAVY is ONBOARD with Odessa (good guys) and at the same time ONBOARD the israeli sub (bad guy) confirming Golgotha (possible genocide plan)...
This would implicate that the US NAVY is now on the side of the good-guys .. against the plans of TPTB and against whatever the Israeli sub was planning to do. Is this part of the COUP that OP talked about ???

-China is playing DICE again ... watching and waiting


*Golgotha is connected with deciet,
Judas who kissed Jesus and exposed him to the ones who wanted Jesus dead. Death and skull are connected. jesus was a messenger of the truth. He was sacrificed.
We have to put that into symbolisme regarding this GOM situation , the israeli sub, the rogue crew, the odessa fleed, the illuminaty/TPTB, etc ...
We think there are plans to sacrifice/genocide the population of the GOM, now someone maybe played a Judas-role > the rogue crew ? Is the Israeli sub the "Judas" ?


(lateron I will look at the hidden code and the dots,
but it is now 3:20 in the middle of the night and I need to grab some sleep peeps ...lol...)
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Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Seems to me he is saying that the dangerous cargo on board the GCP is now under control, and a transfer complete, apparently with approval of the USS Missouri submarine. And that the Navy, which was formerly opposing Odessa's military wishes, will now act to enforce that strategy, whatever that is. As I recall, the advanced Israeli sub was entering a cave and was temporarily blocked from exiting by a sub, seems like it might have been Chinese. Speculation was that the Israeli sub might be planting a nuke in that cave, below the Mississippi River, giving Israel a tremendous political leverage. Perhaps that nuke was the Samson option which Navy OPs have disabled. If US Navy is onboard the Israeli sub, it might be that they disabled the triggering device for that nuke. If that's the case, then who is in control of that sub, the US or Israel. This is my speculation. Getting more exciting, maybe.
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I concur with Whitebeard's assessment here. Sounds like some serious SHTF has been averted - for the time being.
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Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Seems to me he is saying that the dangerous cargo on board the GCP is now under control, and a transfer complete, apparently with approval of the USS Missouri submarine. And that the Navy, which was formerly opposing Odessa's military wishes, will now act to enforce that strategy, whatever that is. As I recall, the advanced Israeli sub was entering a cave and was temporarily blocked from exiting by a sub, seems like it might have been Chinese. Speculation was that the Israeli sub might be planting a nuke in that cave, below the Mississippi River, giving Israel a tremendous political leverage. Perhaps that nuke was the Samson option which Navy OPs have disabled. If US Navy is onboard the Israeli sub, it might be that they disabled the triggering device for that nuke. If that's the case, then who is in control of that sub, the US or Israel. This is my speculation. Getting more exciting, maybe.
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I concur with Whitebeard's assessment here. Sounds like some serious SHTF has been averted - for the time being.
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I agree in this too ...



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Wow. This is still going on!!
Hi, all!

Let me get caught up.
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Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Seems to me he is saying that the dangerous cargo on board the GCP is now under control, and a transfer complete, apparently with approval of the USS Missouri submarine. And that the Navy, which was formerly opposing Odessa's military wishes, will now act to enforce that strategy, whatever that is. As I recall, the advanced Israeli sub was entering a cave and was temporarily blocked from exiting by a sub, seems like it might have been Chinese. Speculation was that the Israeli sub might be planting a nuke in that cave, below the Mississippi River, giving Israel a tremendous political leverage. Perhaps that nuke was the Samson option which Navy OPs have disabled. If US Navy is onboard the Israeli sub, it might be that they disabled the triggering device for that nuke. If that's the case, then who is in control of that sub, the US or Israel. This is my speculation. Getting more exciting, maybe.



I concur with Whitebeard's assessment here. Sounds like some serious SHTF has been averted - for the time being.
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some might refer to as the glp effect
lol
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.....

and here is another snipet from greek history:

In the context of ardent desire for independence from Turkish occupation and with the explicit influence of similar secret societies elsewhere in Europe, three Greeks met one another in 1814 in Odessa and decided the constitution of a secret organization in a freemasonic fashion; its purpose was to unite of all the Greeks in an armed organisation, in order to eventually throw off the Ottoman rule. .......
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Thanks to Greece for the short piece of Greek history which is helpful to place alignment within factions. I’m trying to get in my mind to see where support is aligned, particularly because of the activity on this thread. Most of us think we understand that the banksters control most countries through financial gamesmanship. There are historical ideologies that must be considered which is where this thread comes in to play to gather public opinion and to learn the extent of public understanding for the issues.

We seem to have two main factions contending for superiority and control and I am suggesting a faction list. This list is where one side is based upon and cohorts with China and the Catholic Church under the auspices of the NWO. The other side is Russia, the French separatist Huguenots, the US and Germany (the parts not under Catholic control) and various worldwide Freemason groups. As a side issue and very generally speaking, Judaism and Islam are interwoven, but not the main players because in historical terms, these are new religions with new governments. For this reason, I omit Israel and major Arab countries from the faction list. They don’t really care what any “faction” is doing, they are going to do their thing, particularly the Arabs when it comes to financial management. Central and South American countries are not listed because they exert little influence in world events.

Looking at the players, I do not understand the destruction of the Gulf of Mexico considering the uncontrolled world-wide effects. What are would-be controllers thinking? In the Southeast USA today, it was over 100 degrees f again, with a heat index of 115 degrees f due to the humidity. It’s been like that since June.


NWO group:

China (and NK puppet)
Catholic Church (Jesuit Nazi operators/infiltrators)
England (Imperialistic arm of the Church)
Canada (French speaking)
Mexico
Denmark
Norway
Italy
Spain
Turkey
Pakistan
Vietnam
Many parts of Africa


Opposition to NWO

Russia
USA (except for Church/Nazi control in g’ment)
Canada (English speaking)
France
India
Japan
Australia
Egypt
Most of the “stans”
Germany
Greece
Iceland
Ireland
Thailand
Malaysia
South Korea
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One thing that becomes more and more apparent to me, as I read research that's posted here, is that we, the people of this country, are once again going to be caught up short, while our gov't is asleep at the wheel(or are they?)...but when it happens this next time, possibly we won't recover..While we run around the world making enemies and pissing people off in general, R/C are doing quite the opposite...They are forging alliances, and making deals with countries big/small,(in strategic locations) while we send them our jobs, and our industries...Our country is being gutted, and sold down the river, while R/C make joint and mutually beneficial deals with everyone for whatever they may need/want in the future, we give away everything that once made us great, and get nothing in return...we are going to be sitting ducks...reminds me of Nero fiddling, while Rome burned...
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Wow. This is still going on!!
Hi, all!

Let me get caught up.
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sweet dreams Krispy....welcome back Doom....have fun catching up...lots of information on this thread...
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Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Seems to me he is saying that the dangerous cargo on board the GCP is now under control, and a transfer complete, apparently with approval of the USS Missouri submarine. And that the Navy, which was formerly opposing Odessa's military wishes, will now act to enforce that strategy, whatever that is. As I recall, the advanced Israeli sub was entering a cave and was temporarily blocked from exiting by a sub, seems like it might have been Chinese. Speculation was that the Israeli sub might be planting a nuke in that cave, below the Mississippi River, giving Israel a tremendous political leverage. Perhaps that nuke was the Samson option which Navy OPs have disabled. If US Navy is onboard the Israeli sub, it might be that they disabled the triggering device for that nuke. If that's the case, then who is in control of that sub, the US or Israel. This is my speculation. Getting more exciting, maybe.



I concur with Whitebeard's assessment here. Sounds like some serious SHTF has been averted - for the time being.
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You guys may be right. However, I don't think it was ever possible that SHTF was to be averted. Unfortunately I think either way this is going down like a boxing match. Someone is going to have to go down and while stopping the nuke option (if that's what were talking about) doesn't really fix anything it just passes the problem/mystery down the road. Unfortunately I don't think the road is very long at this point.
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On sonic drilling:

"A basic drill rig was designed and constructed in a hurry as a major oil company wanted to see if this vibratory machine could be used as a seismic drill. They had an urgent requirement to place blasting charges in approximately 150 feet of wet clay and sand beneath frozen lakes in the Arctic. The machine proved successful in this application and a few rigs were then built to work in this field for a few years."

[link to www.environmentalwest.com]

The article at the link does not give us the date for this drilling beneath frozen lakes, but leads us to believe it was prior to 1977.


We have a right to know what is being drilled and where. At the link:

"The drill bit is physically vibrating up and down in addition to being pushed down and rotated. These three combined forces allow drilling to proceed rapidly through most geological formations including most types of rock.

In overburden, the vibratory action causes the surrounding soil particles to fluidize, thereby allowing effortless penetration. In rock, the drill bit causes fractures at the rock face, creating rock dust and small rock particles, which facilitates advancement of the drill bit."

.... and this:


"...it is capable of drilling through almost any material, including solid steel plate, ships propellers and almost any item that could be found in a landfill site."
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Aw, me jealous that it wasn't me on a date with KRISPY !


Aw, Shucks !


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Cabling is Mine anchors
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On sonic drilling:

"A basic drill rig was designed and constructed in a hurry as a major oil company wanted to see if this vibratory machine could be used as a seismic drill. They had an urgent requirement to place blasting charges in approximately 150 feet of wet clay and sand beneath frozen lakes in the Arctic. The machine proved successful in this application and a few rigs were then built to work in this field for a few years."

[link to www.environmentalwest.com]

The article at the link does not give us the date for this drilling beneath frozen lakes, but leads us to believe it was prior to 1977.


We have a right to know what is being drilled and where. At the link:

"The drill bit is physically vibrating up and down in addition to being pushed down and rotated. These three combined forces allow drilling to proceed rapidly through most geological formations including most types of rock.

In overburden, the vibratory action causes the surrounding soil particles to fluidize, thereby allowing effortless penetration. In rock, the drill bit causes fractures at the rock face, creating rock dust and small rock particles, which facilitates advancement of the drill bit."

.... and this:


"...it is capable of drilling through almost any material, including solid steel plate, ships propellers and almost any item that could be found in a landfill site."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067540


so having kept up with this thread, do we assume the reason for the adversity to sonic drilling....is...because someone has possibly done irreparable damage in some other spot, and others knew and objected to it done in the Gulf?....perhaps it's possible to drill through bedrock/earth's crust/mantle...?? causes fractures in the rock face...sounds as though the danger could be in causing collapse/s of sea floor/s?...or in releasing "intelligent oil" or primordial bacteria/lifeforms.. Is this enough to possibly go to war over...because it sure sounds to me as though that's been a distinct possiblility...
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B3 Cargo Obtained was that of microsingularity.

GOM is front for prototype testing of Kerr Black Hole.

Insted of advancing time travel, prototype will be use to move continents.

Move continents to appeasable climates, as supercharged climate changes bear upon the planet beginning this fall, an unforgettable winter, and the seasons of change for the worse bettween spring and winter 2011.

Once continents are placed in order, crops and bio engineered fuel industries can proceed unhendered.

Will Origin oil play a huge role in this post relocatation ?

Siesmic challenges lay await, and sonic drilling is for micro scaled testing. Calibration is critical for aligning plates for transition with minimal collateral damage to commerce, and infrastructures.

Quite possible Atlantis was using this type of technology to shift its continent to various locations to adapt to climate changes and who knows, exposure to explorers and trade routes ?

North American continent could possibly split into 5 - 7 sections of land mass if this shift occures. Wait, not if, but when...

Free plane would suggest movement southeast and present Island and Knolls would greatly suffer this movement.

Possibly 1/3 of continental USA would be possible to relocate, along with parts of Canada and Central America.
Plate damages from northern and western portions of South America would suffer plate changes to their continent, forever masking present formations.

African continent will greatly change climates to that like Antarctica. Parts of Antarctica will become simular in sub tropic climate, simulations show promise for much of that region to sustain habitat. Europe and most of Asia will be that of Arctic Climates, not sustainable for habitat, unless artifically contained.

Plate movement will induce siesmic activity worldwide, and Astralian and South Pacific Regions will suffer most from this. These comunities will most likely be the largest of Exodus to Antarctica's region when piles are in place.

The GOM is one of 3 Theaters of Kerr Black Hole Projects. Subterainian Continental USA has been preping for over two decades. Sonic subterainian drilling and plate glides have been constructed to try and save certain land masses for agriculture, which also includes dessert areas which will be entirely different than they are now, once relaction {{{{ OMEGA }}}} occures.

"Omega" is relocation protocal.


In for one hell-of-a-boat ride !!!!

Wish I knew where to purchase property for the new paradise coastline !


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