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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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The moon is out of orbit.

The sun use to be hottest between 12 and 3. No more, now it extends from 3 to sunset. Pole shifts? Axis/planet rotation slowing... What impact will this have on GOM and its magnetism?
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The moon is out of orbit.

The sun use to be hottest between 12 and 3. No more, now it extends from 3 to sunset. Pole shifts? Axis/planet rotation slowing... What impact will this have on GOM and its magnetism?
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Start your own observations
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2 weeks ago I started a thread, sun is late, check it yourself.

I started obeservations july 12th.
I can just say that, today, the sun is 40 min too late, since july 12th, to give shadow at the front of a straihgt street, just around the corner where I live.

.......
sun will be lower at horizon but not at a different time :)



Agree with owenmeany that the sun is suddenly late, at least here in the East Coast USA.

We have a street through town, graded out in the horse and buggy days, which runs due East and West. Driving East through town in the early morning, the sun is in your eyes so that you can hardly see. The same thing driving West in the evenings before sunset.

Last week, I discussed with a friend that about a year and a half ago the sun turned a degree or two more to the North. I can tell by the shadow of the roofline of my house where it runs along the garden.

We decided to drive the East-West street in town at sunset to see how far off was the sun from due West. We were amazed that not only was the sun offline compared to the line of the street, but that driving at at 6:30pm looking for the sun to be low, it was too high in the sky and looked like it was about 4:30pm. We checked the clock to see if the clock was wrong. It was not. The sun is late!
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I'm noticing differences in where the sun is solely from the position of my garden and it was specifically designed to take advantage of the sunlight and my garden hasn't moved!!!
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2 weeks ago I started a thread, sun is late, check it yourself.

I started obeservations july 12th.
I can just say that, today, the sun is 40 min too late, since july 12th, to give shadow at the front of a straihgt street, just around the corner where I live.

.......
sun will be lower at horizon but not at a different time :)



Agree with owenmeany that the sun is suddenly late, at least here in the East Coast USA.

We have a street through town, graded out in the horse and buggy days, which runs due East and West. Driving East through town in the early morning, the sun is in your eyes so that you can hardly see. The same thing driving West in the evenings before sunset.

Last week, I discussed with a friend that about a year and a half ago the sun turned a degree or two more to the North. I can tell by the shadow of the roofline of my house where it runs along the garden.

We decided to drive the East-West street in town at sunset to see how far off was the sun from due West. We were amazed that not only was the sun offline compared to the line of the street, but that driving at at 6:30pm looking for the sun to be low, it was too high in the sky and looked like it was about 4:30pm. We checked the clock to see if the clock was wrong. It was not. The sun is late!
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You are both quite confused about how the earth wobbles as it makes its way around the sun, and how that affects both the position of the sun in the sky and the hours of daylight (and the placement of shadows).
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2 weeks ago I started a thread, sun is late, check it yourself.

I started obeservations july 12th.
I can just say that, today, the sun is 40 min too late, since july 12th, to give shadow at the front of a straihgt street, just around the corner where I live.

.......
sun will be lower at horizon but not at a different time :)



Agree with owenmeany that the sun is suddenly late, at least here in the East Coast USA.

We have a street through town, graded out in the horse and buggy days, which runs due East and West. Driving East through town in the early morning, the sun is in your eyes so that you can hardly see. The same thing driving West in the evenings before sunset.

Last week, I discussed with a friend that about a year and a half ago the sun turned a degree or two more to the North. I can tell by the shadow of the roofline of my house where it runs along the garden.

We decided to drive the East-West street in town at sunset to see how far off was the sun from due West. We were amazed that not only was the sun offline compared to the line of the street, but that driving at at 6:30pm looking for the sun to be low, it was too high in the sky and looked like it was about 4:30pm. We checked the clock to see if the clock was wrong. It was not. The sun is late!


You are both quite confused about how the earth wobbles as it makes its way around the sun, and how that affects both the position of the sun in the sky and the hours of daylight (and the placement of shadows).
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woow a wobble that makes 40 min difference, when you say so :))
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Anything news about OP ??
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I think this is amazing

very cleVer people in this thread and SILENCE
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Oke whatever and for the bumpie
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goodmorning, no I don't shoot today :)

question: was there a issue with Thomas Jefferson vessel ?
anybody ??

Thomas Jefferson is still off of Key West.. running around in strange patterns.

oh you have noticed that too

with the sec question, I mean, navy submarines, no Bathyscaaf type of subs

They have been to the deepest part of the ocean..
The Trieste was a Swiss-designed, Italian-built deep-diving research bathyscaphe ("deep boat") with a crew of two, which reached a record maximum depth of about 10,911 metres (35,797 ft), in the deepest known part of the ocean on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench near Guam, on January 23, 1960.

As far as a true submarine ... apparantly, this 'super sub' can go much deeper than anyone would have thought possible.

so, 1500 meters for several subs in GOM is possible ?

I have been out of the sub loop for a few years, but, to my knowledge, crush depth on a nuke sub was at about 2200ft... or so. The newest attack subs would not necessarily be able to go too much deeper... if of a conventional design. To go to 5000ft would require an unconventional design, of which I know absolutely nothing about.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon


There is one. I can't tell you about it, but there is one design for a conventional looking sub to be able to go VERY deep. From back in the 1980's. I don't know if it was ever implemented. Costs would have been at least 50% more than normal for the same size sub.

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goodmorning, no I don't shoot today :)

question: was there a issue with Thomas Jefferson vessel ?
anybody ??

Thomas Jefferson is still off of Key West.. running around in strange patterns.

oh you have noticed that too

with the sec question, I mean, navy submarines, no Bathyscaaf type of subs

They have been to the deepest part of the ocean..
The Trieste was a Swiss-designed, Italian-built deep-diving research bathyscaphe ("deep boat") with a crew of two, which reached a record maximum depth of about 10,911 metres (35,797 ft), in the deepest known part of the ocean on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench near Guam, on January 23, 1960.

As far as a true submarine ... apparantly, this 'super sub' can go much deeper than anyone would have thought possible.

so, 1500 meters for several subs in GOM is possible ?

I have been out of the sub loop for a few years, but, to my knowledge, crush depth on a nuke sub was at about 2200ft... or so. The newest attack subs would not necessarily be able to go too much deeper... if of a conventional design. To go to 5000ft would require an unconventional design, of which I know absolutely nothing about.


There is one. I can't tell you about it, but there is one design for a conventional looking sub to be able to go VERY deep. From back in the 1980's. I don't know if it was ever implemented. Costs would have been at least 50% more than normal for the same size sub.
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thank you housedad, you are carefull but I got the message.
I've notice a different approach during the last week, but ists oke, for me. I'm a stupid independ guy somewhere
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goodmorning, no I don't shoot today :)

question: was there a issue with Thomas Jefferson vessel ?
anybody ??

Thomas Jefferson is still off of Key West.. running around in strange patterns.

oh you have noticed that too

with the sec question, I mean, navy submarines, no Bathyscaaf type of subs

They have been to the deepest part of the ocean..
The Trieste was a Swiss-designed, Italian-built deep-diving research bathyscaphe ("deep boat") with a crew of two, which reached a record maximum depth of about 10,911 metres (35,797 ft), in the deepest known part of the ocean on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench near Guam, on January 23, 1960.

As far as a true submarine ... apparantly, this 'super sub' can go much deeper than anyone would have thought possible.

so, 1500 meters for several subs in GOM is possible ?

I have been out of the sub loop for a few years, but, to my knowledge, crush depth on a nuke sub was at about 2200ft... or so. The newest attack subs would not necessarily be able to go too much deeper... if of a conventional design. To go to 5000ft would require an unconventional design, of which I know absolutely nothing about.


There is one. I can't tell you about it, but there is one design for a conventional looking sub to be able to go VERY deep. From back in the 1980's. I don't know if it was ever implemented. Costs would have been at least 50% more than normal for the same size sub.
 Quoting: Housedad

Yes, I would be surprised if it were not true. When I was a flight test engineer for Martin Marietta (Lockheed Martin now) I worked on state of the art infrared systems built for the Air Force. We had developed the first digital IR system for The Lantirn program. Well, after the F-117 stealth program was outed, we received a couple a non-coms from that program (sensor techs) one became a good friend. Anyway, he told me that what was on board the F-117 as far as IR, was far superior to the Lantirn, which was state of the art... or so we all thought. F-117 had integral pods, ours hung on the fuselage. F-117 had digital IR well before Lantirn.. I asked who built all of it.. 'can't say' was the answer.

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For gods sake.


The sun is not late.

Your observations are off.

If the sun was "late", That would entail a slowdown of the the earths rotation, or slowdown of the orbit.

Every astronomer on Earth would be trying to be first to publish and clamoring for their Nobel Prize.

It would also mean that the stars would move across the sky at a different rate, and I would never be able to get my telescopes to track the stars properly, as they are on geared systems.

That did not happen 4 nights ago, when I was out observing, and it sure did not happen last week when I did a solar observation.
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For gods sake.


The sun is not late.

Your observations are off.

If the sun was "late", That would entail a slowdown of the the earths rotation, or slowdown of the orbit.

Every astronomer on Earth would be trying to be first to publish and clamoring for their Nobel Prize.

It would also mean that the stars would move across the sky at a different rate, and I would never be able to get my telescopes to track the stars properly, as they are on geared systems.

That did not happen 4 nights ago, when I was out observing, and it sure did not happen last week when I did a solar observation.
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do not understand your comment.

I the light of this thread, I really do not understand.

you read all the messages of nexuseditor and hans Germany ?

did you, oke
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08/18/2010 02:07 PM
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TEMPs, and temps and temps and temps.


The Gulf is relatively the same temperature it is every year despite the hit it took this year. Inland temps as well.

As a Gulf Coast resident in SW Florida, I know this first hand. ...........
Algea

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Who-Rah !
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Freakin' lie! [link to www.weatherbase.com]


Greenville SC is about 70 miles up the road. We have been swealtering in the humid heat this summer. Check it out. Celcius click upper right at the link.

Compare average temp
May. .....June......July.......Aug
(68f).....(75f)......(79f).....(77f)

to average high temp
May........June......July........Aug
(79f)......(86f).....(89f)......(89f)

to highest temp for the year
May........June.......July.......Aug
(97f)......(100f).....(103f).....(103f)

Given the heat index for humidity, we have been at 115 degree f for days on end with no relief. Past couple of days have been slightly cooler.

Some vegetables in the garden did not make this year because the bees won't come out when it's too hot.
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so patronizing this, its a statement for christ sake

The sun is not late.
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there you go

high id number

and the message is for the garbage can
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Owen, I really havn't seen anything like what you guys are describing.

I'm going out observing again this weekend (hopefully) and I don't expect to see anything unusual in the rotation and tracking.

If I do, though, believe me, you guys will be one of the first to know!!
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.....
robotic substitution for real list
your smart enough snoop for yourself
remember that frightful londonday with the unlucky sevens, where was the odd one out?



"remember that frightful londonday with the unlucky sevens, where was the odd one out?"

Please explain.

4 bombs, 3 were on underground trains, one on a bus, look up where the bus was blown up, but don't print the address on this website.

dont even know if you can mention the name of the company printed on the side of the van next to that bus
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i don't know about the van, i'll leave that to my learned friends on GLP and elsewhere who have studied 7-7 more closely than i will; at the time of the breaking news, we knew something stank, my young brother is an old radio ham, he was listening to Irish Radio (RTE probably) and they were saying there were bombs in London, while the BBC for a long time were adamant it was a "power surge", i knew from looking at the map of the London underground that the "power surge" theory was bollocks, the stations were too far apart. Once the bus was blown up, the cover was blown, no power surge took the bus out, everyone could see it was a bomb. I came onto GLP that day and of course the usual confusion reigned, as it did elsewhere. I know people who were in a goverment department near that square where the bus blew up, i also live 2 miles away across a valley from where the ringleader of the 4 suicide bombers lived, you could see his house because the West Yorkshire police had covered it in tarpualin while pulling all the floor boards up and ransacking the house. I was on holiday that week, i went back to work the following Monday, i got off the Dewsbury to Leeds train to be met by police armed with heckler & kochs, a nice way to start the day.

By the way, this is nothing to do with whatever is happening in the Gulf of Mexico, Persian Gulf or anywhere else, forgive my indulgence.
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Owen, I really havn't seen anything like what you guys are describing.

I'm going out observing again this weekend (hopefully) and I don't expect to see anything unusual in the rotation and tracking.

If I do, though, believe me, you guys will be one of the first to know!!
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----I don't expect to see anything unusual------

try to think out of the box :))
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robotic substitution for real list
your smart enough snoop for yourself
remember that frightful londonday with the unlucky sevens, where was the odd one out?



"remember that frightful londonday with the unlucky sevens, where was the odd one out?"

Please explain.

4 bombs, 3 were on underground trains, one on a bus, look up where the bus was blown up, but don't print the address on this website.

dont even know if you can mention the name of the company printed on the side of the van next to that bus


i don't know about the van, i'll leave that to my learned friends on GLP and elsewhere who have studied 7-7 more closely than i will; at the time of the breaking news, we knew something stank, my young brother is an old radio ham, he was listening to Irish Radio (RTE probably) and they were saying there were bombs in London, while the BBC for a long time were adamant it was a "power surge", i knew from looking at the map of the London underground that the "power surge" theory was bollocks, the stations were too far apart. Once the bus was blown up, the cover was blown, no power surge took the bus out, everyone could see it was a bomb. I came onto GLP that day and of course the usual confusion reigned, as it did elsewhere. I know people who were in a goverment department near that square where the bus blew up, i also live 2 miles away across a valley from where the ringleader of the 4 suicide bombers lived, you could see his house because the West Yorkshire police had covered it in tarpualin while pulling all the floor boards up and ransacking the house. I was on holiday that week, i went back to work the following Monday, i got off the Dewsbury to Leeds train to be met by police armed with heckler & kochs, a nice way to start the day.

By the way, this is nothing to do with whatever is happening in the Gulf of Mexico, Persian Gulf or anywhere else, forgive my indulgence.
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who are you ??
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and whats this ??

Compare average temp
May. .....June......July.......Aug
(68f).....(75f)......(79f).....(77f)

to average high temp
May........June......July........Aug
(79f)......(86f).....(89f)......(89f)

to highest temp for the year
May........June.......July.......Aug
(97f)......(100f).....(103f).....(103f)

Given the heat index for humidity, we have been at 115 degree f for days on end with no relief. Past couple of days have been slightly cooler.
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion
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F'ed up with "facts" ? ;)
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion
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so funny SILENCE
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion



F'ed up with "facts" ? ;)
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AND WHO ARE YOU WITH THE HIGH ID NUMBER?
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion



F'ed up with "facts" ? ;)

AND WHO ARE YOU WITH THE HIGH ID NUMBER?
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I like to have comment of the regulars, not YOU
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this whole thread is fucked up thats my opinion



F'ed up with "facts" ? ;)

AND WHO ARE YOU WITH THE HIGH ID NUMBER?

I like to have comment of the regulars, not YOU
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ooooops sensitive, thought so :))
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Good day, more and more vessels showing on DED as they come out of KremPP silence and twilight order.
Mistral is relaying from Russian Submarine that a new possible Splashzone is forming in deep canyon 23.12 and to avoid agitation of intelligent oil.
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Good day, more and more vessels showing on DED as they come out of KremPP silence and twilight order.
Mistral is relaying from Russian Submarine that a new possible Splashzone is forming in deep canyon 23.12 and to avoid agitation of intelligent oil.
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ok OP ehank you for the message and stay safe :))
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you see almost this thread dies and hopla there is OP

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