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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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For those still not familiar with the technology of the drilling capsules, See this PDF:


[link to aade.org]

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This is my opinion. It's free, so please remember, you get what you pay for. ;)

From this last burst of messages and summaries of previous postings, it appears to me that the story goes something like this:

The original organism (sorry, I can't stomach the other spelling, even if I do understand where it comes from) called Omega was transferred to one of the French ships, and from there to the A Whale, which the OP said was also known as Orca.

A Whale/Orca is now heading toward Singapore, which is on the southern tip of the Malaysian peninsula, south of Thailand. If this organism is dangerous to human life as has been assumed on this thread and is also contagious, it would seem an appropriate place to release it in order to try to get it to China by a somewhat circuitous but reasonably direct route.

By releasing it in a relatively undeveloped country like Malaysia, which is situated in an area of the world with high population density and low access to modern health care (and incidentally, no small number of supposedly militant Muslims) one could estimate that it could spread fairly quickly North through the countries of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Mayanmar and from there into Southern China.

Given the US and "friendlies" exercises in the Yellow Sea in spite of China's objections to same, sending A Whale/Orca to Singapore (a relatively short distance away) could be seen by China as another act of provocation, particularly if China is aware (and we have no reason to think they are not) of the Omega organism and its danger. It doesn't take much dot-connecting from that point to understand China's move to destroy A Whale/Orca and its cargo.

Again, just speculation, and just my opinion.

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Orca docks in Port-of-Spain
Thursday, August 12 2010

The CMA CGM Orca, one of the world’s most technologically advanced container ships named after the ‘wolf of the sea’, made its maiden call on Port-of-Spain last week.

The Orca stood majestically at the Port of Port-of-Spain in all its blue radiance, as Port workers disembarked 350 twenty-foot containers, which travelled from the Far East to TT.

The Orca, when stacked high with containers, can rival the high of the Trinidad Hyatt Regency Hotel, but that is not the most impressive fact.

The vessel, one of the longest containership able to cross the Panama Canal, stretches the length of three football fields (964 feet)!

It is 105 feet wide and weighs 54,000 tonnes with a maximum speed of 25.1 knots.

The vessel lives up to its namesake; the killer whale — the killers and predators of the ocean, as its intimidating and dignified appearance makes it a force to be reckoned with on the ocean as well as in the shipping industry.

Why is this ship important?


Everything in OP's messages in vetted from all sorts of angles.

I know. I read this post everyday. I am just wondering what makes this ship important? More so, I am wondering why China would engage this ship? That's not a crazy or ridiculous question I don't think. What is this ships relevance to anything other than OP using the word Orca also?
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Well, because I haven't seen you here much before now, I made an incorrect assumption, and, for that I offer you my sincere apologies. No, I do not think you inquiries are silly or ridiculous. This is the process we go through. Everyone has questions and yours are certainly intelligent. We get the message, go do some research, present same, mull it over, refer back to the relative solid or semi solid data, analyze, conjecture, arrive at dubious-or-not conclusions, wait for more input, moving forward yadadayadada blah blah blah.... Thank you for jumping and adding your own perspective. We can use all the help we can get.
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Yes it is a valid question. The reason i put forth this article is because of my belief that what ever has been discovered in the GOM might need to be delivered in such mass quantity that a freighter would be needed. I also believe that particular countries will not allow this freighter to deliver its evil goods. It is just my opinion, my mind at work, i have no proof or anything else beyond a guiding drive to find the truth.

That's reasonable. However, why would China give a deadline over one container ship(granted the biggest one there is) when all the other party would have to do is switch the cargo to other ships? IMHO, China is giving a deadline to the US and Britian. "Either you blow that sea floor in on itself to stop the oil, or in Oct we will. Also, try to stop us if you want, but we are bringing the payload on the greatest warship the world have ever seen and we have the power to crash your economy and currency."

That's one hell of an ultimatum.

I like the fact that we are starting to offer up our oppinions and thought of what the OP is trying to relay to us. It seems we were either getting to caught up in the whole code thing or we were to afraid to post what we were really thinking was going on. Thanks for your ideas clemmens, its very reasonable.
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I agree. However, please don't thank me. I have gained much knowledge from this important thread that all you wonderful people are contibuting to. It is I who thank all of you.

I have had to teach myself in my life to keep things simple. The reason I tell you this is because I, as only a reader on this thread, am still not convinced that the "intelligent oil" is a living life form. Although "they" may have stumbled upon something else 1 mile under water of historical importance, IMO, its the one part of this thread that makes the least sense. Alot of what has been presented since then has seemed to be just abit off track. Everytime I get stumped it seems I can always bring it back to that point as the source of my confusion. Also, every time I find myself wondering, what if the "intelligent oil" is only oil that is finding it way to the top of the sea floor. Meaning it is teaching itself which pathes to take or not to take. It has been bothering me for quite some time.

I am in no way trying to discredit any of the brilliant ideas and research done on this thread, some of it is beyond my knowledge. I am just wondering if its possible is all? That question has been driving me crazy! LOL!
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Some additional dots to connect:

Thread: RUMOR ALERT !!!!..China: Rumors of the Central Bank Chief’s Defection -- $430 billion loss on U.S. Treasury bonds

Particularly this post:

"The rumors appear to have started following reports on Aug. 28 which cited Ming Pao, a Hong Kong-based news agency, saying that because of an approximately $430 billion loss on U.S. Treasury bonds, the Chinese government may punish some individuals within the PBC"

and this follow-up:

"Where In The World Is Zhou Xiaochuan? Stratfor Provides Update As 1 Month Chinese Repo Surges By 50%

For those seeking an update on today rumor du jour, here is Stratfor with some additional insights, if nothing definitive yet. But before we get into that, we have received the following update from our Chinese media readers across the Pacific: 'Here is the link of the Ming Pao report. [link to inews.mingpao.com] It says that "China may punish Zhou because China lost $430 billion foreign exchange on its Fannie and Freddie bond investment'."

Then, as nexuseditor pointed out above, from this thread:

Thread: US Postal Services post webpage displaying US Dollar (USD) to Special Drawing Rights (SDR) currency conversion

we have this information:

"Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) are international foreign exchange reserve assets. Allocated to nations by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), a SDR represents a claim to foreign currencies for which it may be exchanged in times of need.(Set up in 1969)

Today, the US Dollar is the world's primary foreign exchange reserve asset, and SDRs may be little used. Some nations, notably China and Russia (as well as the UN), favor increasing the substance and function of the SDR, however."

Interesting, no?

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strange thing happened yesterday. I was sitting around at a friend's lake and the head of one of the nations top network news desks was also there. Talk was all light but then I asked him 'what's really going on in the gulf?" He curtly replied "nothing. The well is capped" and abruptly turned away as I was saying I'd seen videos.....we all thought this was odd. This is someone I;ve known on and off for many many years and never seen this side of him.

Anyone would have taken a moment to engage rather than this rude response. Anyway....for what it's worth. It certainly made me wonder what he can't tell.

got the same response from an ABC anchor a few days ago
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This does not surprise me at all!They have been scared straight!I doubt any of them wants to end up like M S!!!!! It will take an extraordinary person with nothing to lose to break the story...
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds .
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This is my opinion. It's free, so please remember, you get what you pay for. ;)

From this last burst of messages and summaries of previous postings, it appears to me that the story goes something like this:

The original organism (sorry, I can't stomach the other spelling, even if I do understand where it comes from) called Omega was transferred to one of the French ships, and from there to the A Whale, which the OP said was also known as Orca.

A Whale/Orca is now heading toward Singapore, which is on the southern tip of the Malaysian peninsula, south of Thailand. If this organism is dangerous to human life as has been assumed on this thread and is also contagious, it would seem an appropriate place to release it in order to try to get it to China by a somewhat circuitous but reasonably direct route.

By releasing it in a relatively undeveloped country like Malaysia, which is situated in an area of the world with high population density and low access to modern health care (and incidentally, no small number of supposedly militant Muslims) one could estimate that it could spread fairly quickly North through the countries of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Mayanmar and from there into Southern China.

Given the US and "friendlies" exercises in the Yellow Sea in spite of China's objections to same, sending A Whale/Orca to Singapore (a relatively short distance away) could be seen by China as another act of provocation, particularly if China is aware (and we have no reason to think they are not) of the Omega organism and its danger. It doesn't take much dot-connecting from that point to understand China's move to destroy A Whale/Orca and its cargo.

Again, just speculation, and just my opinion.
 Quoting: FlyingInTheLight




Yes, use the A whale to carry the contaminated oil that it was drilling for. Carry it to other areas to spread the contamination.

Nice one.
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You can find Orca at these coordinates:
26* 53'5.66" N 91* 21'10.05" W


There is an ORCA Basin at these corrdinates near the spill.....
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Is it possible the "Orca" is the sea floor or the huge deposit of oil underneath? Previous poster said Orca could be translated to "land of the dead". If one considered all oil a fossil fuel, that would cetainly make an oil deposit the land of the dead, would it not?

Also, is it possible that the drilling that is going on is actually an attempt to give the "intelligent oil" and gas another avenue to be released into the gulf and other countries are trying to stop it by cutting power to the drills? Also, is it possible that this chinese vessel is going to go in and possibly attack the "Orca" (sea floor) with massive weapons to collapse the seafloor and stop the oil gusher once and for all?

I might be way off. LOL However, "intelligent oil", even with all of your well thought out ideas on what it could be, might it actually be intelligent because it is finding its way into the ocean by finding fissures and cracks in the sea floor that allow it to escape? The drilling is to open up new avenues for more oil to gush(which other countries realize would severly damage the entire planet) and the viscosity of the water might be the percentage of methane in the water that would hamper a ship or subs ability to operate in those waters without sinking?

Most posters on here are much better thinkers than me. So, there may be no chance of what I am thinking being possible. Just throwing this out there.

Hi clemmens14. Welcome and thanks for your input. Different opinions help us to formulate a better understating of what is probably true.

For what it is worth, this is what I think. (Sorry my little laptop doesn't have the degree symbol.)

You can find Orca at these coordinates:
26* 53'5.66" N 91* 21'10.05" W

It is too far from the "spill" site to use for blowing it up to cover the crevice, it would seem more logical to go for the MS Valley that travels from the top of the rim and fans out below the "spill" site. The is an area with three semi-circular formations one of which I think look similar to a crescent moon that would be closer by far than Orca. And, they too may be to far away for that purpose.

The OP previously referred to difficulties due to the intelligent oil. If you look on google earth, you can see many wells spraying a near clear to almost white looking spray which is what I believe to be the columns. The spray/columns I believe disperse a fibrous material that seems to adhere to surfaces and build in thickness.

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Em captain now reporting that outer hull and skin sensors are picking up flocking of metallic like fibers and attaching to rubberized skin, erosion warning active but low. also reporting minor sonar distortions
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Thanks Isis. I'm more of the reading type when it comes to this thread. For some reason, Orca meaning "the land of the dead" connected a few dots in my head very easily and that led to my comment and question.
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Hellllooooo

I have been bereft of internet for almost 4 days, except for occasionally getting on for 5 mins then noise drops line out again....all fixed but a shit load of reading to still do! at least 4 more pages and that ifs if no-one posts anything more!!

In case this has been added, sorry....but thought it was important for the locals in the GOM

EXCLUSIVE: Tests find sickened family has 50.3 ppm of Corexit’s 2-butoxyethanol in swimming pool — JUST ONE HOUR NORTH OF TAMPA (lab report included)
August 30th, 2010 at 09:13 AM

[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]

“Our heads are still swimming,” stated Barbara Schebler of Homosassa, Florida, who received word last Friday that test results on the water from her family’s swimming pool showed 50.3 ppm of 2-butoxyethanol, a marker for the dispersant Corexit 9527A used to break up and sink BP’s oil in the Gulf of Mexico

Be Back soon :)
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The more I look, and the more we find, the more that it ties to the Anglo Saxon solution and the Georgia guidestones.

Give China a cold.


Drop your capsules, drill, inject organism. Wait while it cooks.

Blow up rig as cover. Lots of oil in the sea.


Drop the capsules and open up contaminated reservoir. It will leak a lot of oil, since it is not a full scale operation to develop a oil field, so you don't worry if you lose a lot of oil. Capture some to put in hold of A Whale.

Go back to Asia area and release the beast., OR take it back to be used as a bioweapon.

Wipe them out.

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Hellllooooo

I have been bereft of internet for almost 4 days, except for occasionally getting on for 5 mins then noise drops line out again....all fixed but a shit load of reading to still do! at least 4 more pages and that ifs if no-one posts anything more!!
Be Back soon :)
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I can't help it. I finally got aa couple of hours of freedom from getting ready for a vacation. So, I post!!!

Nothing personal, but you will have to just keep reading! tounge
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You can find Orca at these coordinates:
26* 53'5.66" N 91* 21'10.05" W


There is an ORCA Basin at these corrdinates near the spill.....
 Quoting: MultiN 1032419

Hi MultiN
lol, the Orca Basin is over 200 miles from the spill.
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Hellllooooo

I have been bereft of internet for almost 4 days, except for occasionally getting on for 5 mins then noise drops line out again....all fixed but a shit load of reading to still do! at least 4 more pages and that ifs if no-one posts anything more!!

In case this has been added, sorry....but thought it was important for the locals in the GOM

EXCLUSIVE: Tests find sickened family has 50.3 ppm of Corexit’s 2-butoxyethanol in swimming pool — JUST ONE HOUR NORTH OF TAMPA (lab report included)
August 30th, 2010 at 09:13 AM

[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]

“Our heads are still swimming,” stated Barbara Schebler of Homosassa, Florida, who received word last Friday that test results on the water from her family’s swimming pool showed 50.3 ppm of 2-butoxyethanol, a marker for the dispersant Corexit 9527A used to break up and sink BP’s oil in the Gulf of Mexico

Be Back soon :)
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Please note, the folks with the corexit in the pool live within five miles of a Nuke power plant which has been receiving heavy spraying of dispersants to keep oil out of water intake to avoid shutdown or meltdown. Also, they are due East of spill and prevailing winds this time of year West winds.
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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism, but also the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warfare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.

(edited for grammar and spelling...after it got quoted. I *hate* that! ;) )

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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism and the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warefare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.
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Brilliant analysis, Soaring Eagle! I concur.
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Sorry...double post

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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism, but also the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warfare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.
 Quoting: FlyingInTheLight


Interesting. Malaysia and Tiawan are thorns in China's side. If they could destroy the population there or otherwise cause havok, It would be a feather in their cap, and ALL that that means.
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You can find Orca at these coordinates:
26* 53'5.66" N 91* 21'10.05" W


There is an ORCA Basin at these corrdinates near the spill.....
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Looking at it. Is there anything particular to look for in the underwater view?
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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism and the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warefare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.


Brilliant analysis, Soaring Eagle! I concur.
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Yes, makes sense. Except, China will be following the principles of 'The Art of War' in that they will try to be 'unpredictable'... ie. always lead your opponent believe something other than what you are really going to do." In this case, the engagement may not take as long as October... 'Let them rest on their laurels' so to speak. The element of surprise will be crucial.

Questions: Why despatch those diplomatic brief cases so early? Something is going to happen earlier?... They anticipate communications during September may prohibit their delivery to embassies?

And then there is the question of the possible attack to Crescent Moon (Middle Eastern contingent - or maybe even Iran)... which can be the spark to ignite all out hell. They will be looking to position themselves like pieces on a chess board and then create 'decoys' and distractions in one theatre to give them an advantage of surprise somewhere else.

They who hold the money strings will be in ultimate control... and of course, not being dependent on USD.

It sometimes makes me think that all of us are just cannon fodder in someone else's deadly game... But let them keep thinking that... because the common man should never be underestimated - no matter how much of the media, the water supply, food and energy they control... We may have something in common with the organism from The Deep... ie. a common enemy of life.

I think the intelligent oil is a man-made nano-technology... similar the self-assembling fungi-like filaments of morgellons disease... What they engineered for the blood may also be being created for the GOM using Corexit.

Well, I hope the good guys will be able to band together and 'correct it'.
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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism and the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warefare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.


Brilliant analysis, Soaring Eagle! I concur.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu 940739



Disagree. Russia and China are arch enemies from way back.

These two countries may cooperate with each other out of necessity due to sharing a huge, difficult to cover border, but I cannot see that they will ever be partners.
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Here's one to make you sit up and howl.

What if the A Whale really is a ORCA?

Think about this. How the hell do they get those damn drilling capsules into the right area of the ocean without anyone knowing they did it?

Use a really big ship, say it is doing something like skimming for oil, (which I kept wondering about, since it was designed so poorly to do that) but you really are bringing and dropping those drilling capsules. The capsules are not small.


Now I know why the A whale always acted funny as hell to me. It had a different mission.

A mission that would want somebody to take it out and sink it. I said it could hold something big inside and hide it. Several something bigs!!!!

That has got to be it. It explains the entire problem with the A Whale.
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lateral thinking. i love it
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08/31/2010 12:08 AM
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You can find Orca at these coordinates:
26* 53'5.66" N 91* 21'10.05" W


There is an ORCA Basin at these corrdinates near the spill.....



Looking at it. Is there anything particular to look for in the underwater view?
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Isis7 had pointed to it earlier and even though it is 200 miles away it is odd coincidence that there is a Basin by that name.....and given their thoughts on Orca....Google Earth doesn't seem to show anything pertinent that would point to it at this time....
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Continuing speculation from my most recent post...

China is pissed that they're losing value hand over fist on bad loans to the US. China is also fully aware that they hold a pretty good hand when it comes to taking down the US economically if they chose to.

If my guess is close, China may have not only known about the organism, but also the plans to use it. The exercises in the Yellow Sea (coupled with my guess about attempted bio-warfare against southern Asia in general and China specifically) along with NATO's blatant backstabbing of Russia drive Russia and China further into each others' arms. China, being the more powerful of the two in terms of having a hold over the US, sets up its ultimatum: the moved up date for the release of the carrier killer, and the messages in the time-locked cases.

According to OP, the carrier killer is set to take out A Whale/Orca in October, most likely around the same time as the embassies are able to open the cases. I suspect they contain papers that outline the scenario that China and Russa propose, which likely includes removal of the missiles surrounding Russia as well as a change away from the USD and over to the SDR as international currency.

China can take out the US economically pretty fast, and the US knows it. There's not much the US can fall back on except the nuclear option, and China has already proven that their subs can surface in the middle of a US convoy without the US ever knowing they were there in the first place. I have no idea how many nukes Russia and China combined would have, but I suspect it's at least as many as the NATO allies.

Check and mate, game to China and Russia.

(edited for grammar and spelling...after it got quoted. I *hate* that! ;) )
 Quoting: FlyingInTheLight



It seems the Russians are on the 5 year plan already...



If we had our own stock exchange where we could trade oil, I think that, firstly, we could trade not only in US dollars, but also in Roubles, especially for CIS countries, among others. I mean, we are talking about the possibility of the Rouble becoming a major trading currency, or even a reserve currency. This can only be done if the Rouble is fixed to serious material resources, such as gold, oil and gas."

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Here's one to make you sit up and howl.

What if the A Whale really is a ORCA?

Think about this. How the hell do they get those damn drilling capsules into the right area of the ocean without anyone knowing they did it?

Use a really big ship, say it is doing something like skimming for oil, (which I kept wondering about, since it was designed so poorly to do that) but you really are bringing and dropping those drilling capsules. The capsules are not small.


Now I know why the A whale always acted funny as hell to me. It had a different mission.

A mission that would want somebody to take it out and sink it. I said it could hold something big inside and hide it. Several something bigs!!!!

That has got to be it. It explains the entire problem with the A Whale.


lateral thinking. i love it
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Housedad scores AGAIN! In the midst of all the cryptic spookarama, someone squiggles around with the blatant and obvious, and hides in plain sight, totally ignored by all the other players....WOOT!
Lateral thinking is what Auganism has done in the GoM - look out queenie, you 'bout to be cornered.
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Yes, makes sense. Except, China will be following the principles of 'The Art of War' in that they will try to be 'unpredictable'... ie. always lead your opponent believe something other than what you are really going to do." In this case, the engagement may not take as long as October... 'Let them rest on their laurels' so to speak. The element of surprise will be crucial.

Questions: Why despatch those diplomatic brief cases so early? Something is going to happen earlier?... They anticipate communications during September may prohibit their delivery to embassies?

And then there is the question of the possible attack to Crescent Moon (Middle Eastern contingent - or maybe even Iran)... which can be the spark to ignite all out hell. They will be looking to position themselves like pieces on a chess board and then create 'decoys' and distractions in one theatre to give them an advantage of surprise somewhere else.

They who hold the money strings will be in ultimate control... and of course, not being dependent on USD.

It sometimes makes me think that all of us are just cannon fodder in someone else's deadly game... But let them keep thinking that... because the common man should never be underestimated - no matter how much of the media, the water supply, food and energy they control... We may have something in common with the organism from The Deep... ie. a common enemy of life.

I think the intelligent oil is a man-made nano-technology... similar the self-assembling fungi-like filaments of morgellons disease... What they engineered for the blood may also be being created for the GOM using Corexit.

Well, I hope the good guys will be able to band together and 'correct it'.
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Declaration of war could be a reason. By using briefcases that are in the hands of the different countries, they could never be accused of a sneak attack like the Japanese were accused of in WWII.

Last Edited by Housedad on 08/31/2010 12:18 AM
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"7/5/2010 6:37 PM
Krispy, i take risk but you need help.. Sharkhunter is submarine. Elephant is Whale Tanker. They going to sink or stop it. Whale is not just a Whale it is Orca."

One way to read this is that the Whale tanker is carrying a killer Whale (Orca)- Whale is not just a Whale - meaning that it has another function?

A weapon system of some sort? (I see others have made this connection but I think it's worth repeating.) Perhaps this was a direct statement? As others have also noted A Whale behaved in an erratic and unexpected way in the gulf and is now on the move to another location.

I agree with FlyingInTheLight as I had the same thought, what if this ship contains the medium to transport the organism from the Gulf to contaminate another site? I recall it was said that the organism moves within the intelligent oil. This organism seems to be the crux of this whole series of events. What is unclear is how it is being used and why.

I am not sure it is purely to attack the human population, though that is a valid thought keeping in mind the long expressed desire to cull the world population. I wonder if it has other abilities that are connected to the earth movements, terra forming and magnetic gravity anomolies? There is of course the option that there is a completely different explanation. No doubt equally disturbing.

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Declaration of war could be a reason. By using briefcases that are in the hands of the different countries, they could never be accused of a sneak attack like the Japanese were accused of in WWII.
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That makes far to much sense for my liking :(

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at the begining of this thread sub takes on cargo there are deaths and injuries. cargo isolated, transfered etc. factions trying to intercept others to suport removal of cargo. now my point. could this all be abuot this new organisim that could well be deadly and factions are either trying to get samples to weaponise or trying to stop those factions from getting samples. that could explain the GOM military action. also fits with bio haz and strange manner the spill is being contained. deep water exploration in other theators and major posturing by countries and alliances. this cuold potentially be some bio super weapon. who can be the next military super power.
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Hello All, I am up to speed now on the thread but keep getting internet drop out. phone company have beem out 2 days in a row, yesterdsy cleaned up a connection in the pit and today no fault found....

I am looking at real time web monitor and am wondering why the internet usage/network traffic in Australia seems to be centralised in the middle of the country....would/should it be in pockets of where the capital cities are? Attacks on net are up by 47%

Even when line seems clear I keep losing internet connection and 3 trojans we on my Mcaffee security...Why is this only happening when I'm using this site????

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And earlier Iwas flagging as Aus...now since I have posted I'm back in Asia Pacific...I don'y get it, can one of you techos please explain this for me, ta

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