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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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OP could you please clarify,which is the second theatre?Is it The Falklands as Nexus editor suggested or somwhere else?I believe that many of us are unsure of this fact.
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Yeah, I was thinking of OP's post on page 469 where he mentions assets enroute to the Falklands. But maybe he's referring to the South China sea, or both, lol.


8/29/2010 6:55 AM
Good day, .. from the DED it appears KremPP is getting anxious over the lack of assistance from Chinese assets in Odessa.
Mistral has also relayed from KremPP that assets should be on the look out for horizontal spalshzones. (15 hours ago)These new splashzones form between the surface and the bottom, deep beneath the surface. The 1 Russian Captain has Reported that at least two horizontal SplashZones have connected and are forming channels of intelligent oil trough which the active organism part is conveyed or transported. (translation problem) Captain has tried various calibrator settings to clear these oil channels but so far it isn't working. The calibrator is only working to clear the vertical column spashzones. (My GirlFriend says the oil first retreated but is now moving around horizontally, she is speculating that the intelligent oil is regrouping )
DED showed that 3 .. assets were enroute to Flaklands but once they get there their DED and OdessA communications stop showing up on DED transcripts . The DED shows them there(signatures) but we cant access their DED transcripts. (We don't know what they are saying)My girlfriend says she will need to increase the DED Spectrum of her embassy access so that we can follow the Falklands theatre on DED transcripts also. (This is tricky and risky but she will try and get it setup by Monday or Tuesday, she also got her vaccination on Friday but this time it was a large injection and not a vaccination pin prick as before)
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I think the theatre being referred to in that post was the Falklands, but I'm not 100% sure.


Based on recent posts I find myself agreeing.

How long is your site down for mate? I have been trying get something all day

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I was told it would only be a few hours. Seems that somebody did something to my server that has caused IBM to send a special team up. That's what the techhead there tells me anyway. Definitely not your normal hack though. Phone the office if you're in a hurry.
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goodmornihg everyone

having red the coments plased sins last night somthing is quiet obvius proof or rather the lack of it to conferm our reported events i am in total agrement with the previus poster on his coments ok so wo go to the facts we hav a damaged french sub incapable of submersion it would be good if we can identify its home base or ware the french manufacture and repair thare sub is it thare if not ware is it it neads fixing to be usable again if this could be confermed say by sum of our french members who am sure would find it a lot easier than the rest of us to find out this info it would be a key bit of info going a hell of a long way as to proving all that has been sed on this thread we need proof otherwise all we are duing is just writing a story based on fiction not facts my opinion its best to all we find proof for all consernd we need it and we need it yesterday




I too have been watching from the first day but have to respectfully disagree.The fact that some posters have put extraordinary effort into the thread is obvious but it does not give them right of ownership.The thread was begun by OP and the rest of us are merely players.Hopefully we can leave our egos out of it and learn to cooperate as a working unit regardless of when we became interested in the thread.Personal attacks are childish as is cliquishness.Let's give credit where credit is due and then get on with the job at hand in an atmostphere of mutual respect and harmony.

nise like it ok pepol ware is your proof for thes events i want to see it frankly am sik of all thes dipstiks who seam to do nothing other than caus truble without proposing anything to futher our investigations so i say to you all find some concreat proof of all this facts confermable facts
without them this thread is just soshal masterbation



here is a fact
dam near 500 pages of coments and not one pease of confermable evidans of the atak on a french sub by the us or for that mater any external confamation about any events posted by the op
y not . i hav nothing further to ad until one of us posts proof of theas events actualy took plase


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here is a fact
dam near 500 pages of coments and not one pease of confermable evidans of the atak on a french sub by the us or for that mater any external confamation about any events posted by the op
y not . i hav nothing further to ad until one of us posts proof of theas events actualy took plase



Ok, i just gotta take an extra minute for this one.

From strong experience dealing with the US Navy and the US military, I can assure you that there are hundreds of wild, scary, and downright dangerous things the military has had done to them and they do to our adversaries, and you never have and never will hear a word of it.

The only way any of us will hear about that sub is if it is in the interest of one of the countries involved.

For the really important secrets, the militaries of the world are real good at keeping them secret.

So don't always take the lack of immediate evidence as a lack of truth, Especially if it has to do with the military.

yes i agre with you totaly howeaver if nobody cums up with at least one confermable peas of info say from monitering comershal shiping coms a confermed sightig of any of the vesals in the op post confamation as far as i understand this threads info provided by the op should be the only prioraty all other isues cum secondery to that i find myself very frustrated with the lak of pepol trying to conferm events and chosing to speculate on un confermed infomation regading bio wotevers and codes this searves no perpos at all conferming this event is key otherwise everyones great eforts here are totaly wasted proof shuld be paramout alas without it we hav nothig but a good story



i find i am actualy gulty of speculating on thes isues myself as well wen i should be puting all eforts in to conferming thes events first so i admit that in the hope others may see my point and ases wot it is they are here for and trying to acheave in the hope that sum may realise we nead confamation sumhow first



Ok, as someone pointed out above, you come in spamming the thread semming to be as interested in "what could possibly be" as anyone else here.

Then after a few pot shots at your validity you are able to deflect them enough to where people brush it off.

Now the question of your intentions comes back full circle...with a little more "umph"..thanks to nexuseditor and you have completely changed your tone.

So I have two conclusions
1. You think we are dumb as shit and have fallen into your sympathy game and because you seemingly caught the ear of others can now change everyone's base belief on this and say "its not true because we dont have evidence"

2. You are dyslexic and obviously now...bipolar.

I think its is number 1, but the problem with that is...ppl that come to this sight seemingly are looking to believe in something that cannot be seen at first glance.....so we dont need freaking evidence as in the court of law....we go by the law of our instincts and intuition.

EJ if you are an operative....your doing a shitty job.
yoda
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u call my coments spam
caling for prouf is not spam
u go on about me being an oprativ
think you hav been watching to many films
u now acuse me of being bipolar
personal atak and an insult
u say that i think you are dum as shit
i hav never staed that to anyone
u hav just been reported for abuse
as that is all ure post about
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I am sorta glad that I haven't been able to post for a while....I would have lost my cool too!

There seems to always be someone stiring the pot...I remember 2 weeks ago it was Owen, now EJ, and a few before that too, it changes the atmosphere here.

I think it is all about intent, so as others have stated, go with your gut and take it all with a grain of NaCl...levity???

For those who say we should not looks at the fringe stuff, just remember that NASA think tank powerpoint display...we are living on the fringe NOW!

Here is an article I thought I would add to the mix

Tuesday, August 31, 2010
Obama could kill fossil fuels overnight with a nuclear dash for thorium

If Barack Obama were to marshal Americaís vast scientific and strategic resources behind a new Manhattan Project, he might reasonably hope to reinvent the global energy landscape and sketch an end to our dependence on fossil fuels within three to five years.




Dr Rubbia says a tonne of the silvery metal produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal

We could then stop arguing about wind mills, deepwater drilling, IPCC hockey sticks, or strategic reliance on the Kremlin. History will move on fast.

Muddling on with the status quo is not a grown-up policy. The International Energy Agency says the world must invest $26 trillion (£16.7 trillion) over the next 20 years to avert an energy shock. The scramble for scarce fuel is already leading to friction between China, India, and the West.

[link to refreshingnews9.blogspot.com]

There is no certain bet in nuclear physics but work by Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) on the use of thorium as a cheap, clean and safe alternative to uranium in reactors may be the magic bullet we have all been hoping for, though we have barely begun to crack the potential of solar power.

Dr Rubbia says a tonne of the silvery metal Ė named after the Norse god of thunder, who also gave us Thorís day or Thursday - produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal. A mere fistful would light London for a week.

Thorium eats its own hazardous waste. It can even scavenge the plutonium left by uranium reactors, acting as an eco-cleaner. "Itís the Big One," said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA rocket engineer and now chief nuclear technologist at Teledyne Brown Engineering.

"Once you start looking more closely, it blows your mind away. You can run civilisation on thorium for hundreds of thousands of years, and itís essentially free. You donít have to deal with uranium cartels," he said.

Stay Nice All, Karma will do the rest... :)
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ej in my life I have been attacked many many times and I used to be so sad and angry about it until I was given a very good piece of advice from an older colleague.It was....CONSIDER THE SOURCE.This seemingly simple piece of advice has helped sustain me in some very difficult moments.
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goodmornihg everyone

having red the coments plased sins last night somthing is quiet obvius proof or rather the lack of it to conferm our reported events i am in total agrement with the previus poster on his coments ok so wo go to the facts we hav a damaged french sub incapable of submersion it would be good if we can identify its home base or ware the french manufacture and repair thare sub is it thare if not ware is it it neads fixing to be usable again if this could be confermed say by sum of our french members who am sure would find it a lot easier than the rest of us to find out this info it would be a key bit of info going a hell of a long way as to proving all that has been sed on this thread we need proof otherwise all we are duing is just writing a story based on fiction not facts my opinion its best to all we find proof for all consernd we need it and we need it yesterday




I too have been watching from the first day but have to respectfully disagree.The fact that some posters have put extraordinary effort into the thread is obvious but it does not give them right of ownership.The thread was begun by OP and the rest of us are merely players.Hopefully we can leave our egos out of it and learn to cooperate as a working unit regardless of when we became interested in the thread.Personal attacks are childish as is cliquishness.Let's give credit where credit is due and then get on with the job at hand in an atmostphere of mutual respect and harmony.

nise like it ok pepol ware is your proof for thes events i want to see it frankly am sik of all thes dipstiks who seam to do nothing other than caus truble without proposing anything to futher our investigations so i say to you all find some concreat proof of all this facts confermable facts
without them this thread is just soshal masterbation



here is a fact
dam near 500 pages of coments and not one pease of confermable evidans of the atak on a french sub by the us or for that mater any external confamation about any events posted by the op
y not . i hav nothing further to ad until one of us posts proof of theas events actualy took plase


quote:ej 1084956]


here is a fact
dam near 500 pages of coments and not one pease of confermable evidans of the atak on a french sub by the us or for that mater any external confamation about any events posted by the op
y not . i hav nothing further to ad until one of us posts proof of theas events actualy took plase



Ok, i just gotta take an extra minute for this one.

From strong experience dealing with the US Navy and the US military, I can assure you that there are hundreds of wild, scary, and downright dangerous things the military has had done to them and they do to our adversaries, and you never have and never will hear a word of it.

The only way any of us will hear about that sub is if it is in the interest of one of the countries involved.

For the really important secrets, the militaries of the world are real good at keeping them secret.

So don't always take the lack of immediate evidence as a lack of truth, Especially if it has to do with the military.

yes i agre with you totaly howeaver if nobody cums up with at least one confermable peas of info say from monitering comershal shiping coms a confermed sightig of any of the vesals in the op post confamation as far as i understand this threads info provided by the op should be the only prioraty all other isues cum secondery to that i find myself very frustrated with the lak of pepol trying to conferm events and chosing to speculate on un confermed infomation regading bio wotevers and codes this searves no perpos at all conferming this event is key otherwise everyones great eforts here are totaly wasted proof shuld be paramout alas without it we hav nothig but a good story



i find i am actualy gulty of speculating on thes isues myself as well wen i should be puting all eforts in to conferming thes events first so i admit that in the hope others may see my point and ases wot it is they are here for and trying to acheave in the hope that sum may realise we nead confamation sumhow first



Ok, as someone pointed out above, you come in spamming the thread semming to be as interested in "what could possibly be" as anyone else here.

Then after a few pot shots at your validity you are able to deflect them enough to where people brush it off.

Now the question of your intentions comes back full circle...with a little more "umph"..thanks to nexuseditor and you have completely changed your tone.

So I have two conclusions
1. You think we are dumb as shit and have fallen into your sympathy game and because you seemingly caught the ear of others can now change everyone's base belief on this and say "its not true because we dont have evidence"

2. You are dyslexic and obviously now...bipolar.

I think its is number 1, but the problem with that is...ppl that come to this sight seemingly are looking to believe in something that cannot be seen at first glance.....so we dont need freaking evidence as in the court of law....we go by the law of our instincts and intuition.

EJ if you are an operative....your doing a shitty job.
yoda

u call my coments spam
caling for prouf is not spam
u go on about me being an oprativ
think you hav been watching to many films
u now acuse me of being bipolar
personal atak and an insult
u say that i think you are dum as shit
i hav never staed that to anyone
u hav just been reported for abuse
as that is all ure post about
 Quoting: ej 1084956



Struck a nerve? stfu
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There seems to always be someone stiring the pot...I remember 2 weeks ago it was Owen, now EJ, and a few before that too, it changes the atmosphere here.

Like weather the atmostphere changes sometimes turbulent sometimes calm.That is life.Now I believe that ej is a person who likes to have the facts corroberated,his ducks in a row so to speak.ej correct me if I am wrong.He is correct by saying that none of this is validated in the mainstream media but I wouldn't expect it to be.Unless one of us knows someone who didn't come back from a trip on a submarine we wouldn't know anything for sure at present at least.The no fly zone took care of that.It is much kinder to agree to disagree rather than make unkind personal comments .
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ty :) the amount of ataks is disturbig :)but you are right they are all from the same plase says a lot
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There seems to always be someone stiring the pot...I remember 2 weeks ago it was Owen, now EJ, and a few before that too, it changes the atmosphere here.

Like weather the atmostphere changes sometimes turbulent sometimes calm.That is life.Now I believe that ej is a person who likes to have the facts corroberated,his ducks in a row so to speak.ej correct me if I am wrong.He is correct by saying that none of this is validated in the mainstream media but I wouldn't expect it to be.Unless one of us knows someone who didn't come back from a trip on a submarine we wouldn't know anything for sure at present at least.The no fly zone took care of that.It is much kinder to agree to disagree rather than make unkind personal comments .
 Quoting: childoflight

me, Owen, will now defend this thread and its purpose.
few weeks ago I saw for the first time, how a thread can be distorted by socalled newcomers, I got upset.
I apologized for that, you recall?
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yes non in the main stream media but i was actualy caling for members to find and post prouf here may be is the fact that i am an enginer and fix things without acurat info i cant doo this and yes i want to se at leat one peas of pruof for the coments by the op cant understand y everyne els seams not botherd at all by this
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Earth changes, ancient organisms....could they have anything to do with solar system changes?

This is interesting....


Is the Sun Emitting a Mystery Particle?

When probing the deepest reaches of the Cosmos or magnifying our understanding of the quantum world, a whole host of mysteries present themselves. This is to be expected when pushing our knowledge of the Universe to the limit.

But what if a well-known -- and apparently constant -- characteristic of matter starts behaving mysteriously?

This is exactly what has been noticed in recent years; the decay rates of radioactive elements are changing. This is especially mysterious as we are talking about elements with "constant" decay rates -- these values aren't supposed to change. School textbooks teach us this from an early age.


WATCH VIDEO: A solar eruption sends a wave of plasma hurtling towards Earth on Aug. 1, 2010. The event was captured by NASA satellites. This is the conclusion that researchers from Stanford and Purdue University have arrived at, but the only explanation they have is even weirder than the phenomenon itself: The sun might be emitting a previously unknown particle that is meddling with the decay rates of matter. Or, at the very least, we are seeing some new physics.

Many fields of science depend on measuring constant decay rates. For example, to accurately date ancient artifacts, archaeologists measure the quantity of carbon-14 found inside organic samples at dig sites. This is a technique known as carbon dating.

Carbon-14 has a very defined half-life of 5730 years; i.e. it takes 5,730 years for half of a sample of carbon-14 to radioactively decay into stable nitrogen-14. Through spectroscopic analysis of the ancient organic sample, by finding out what proportion of carbon-14 remains, we can accurately calculate how old it is.

But as you can see, carbon dating makes one huge assumption: radioactive decay rates remain constant and always have been constant. If this new finding is proven to be correct, even if the impact is small, it will throw the science community into a spin.

Interestingly, researchers at Purdue first noticed something awry when they were using radioactive samples for random number generation. Each decay event occurs randomly (hence the white noise you'd hear from a Geiger counter), so radioactive samples provide a non-biased random number generator.

[link to news.discovery.com]
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yes non in the main stream media but i was actualy caling for members to find and post prouf here may be is the fact that i am an enginer and fix things without acurat info i cant doo this and yes i want to se at leat one peas of pruof for the coments by the op cant understand y everyne els seams not botherd at all by this
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of course ej as an engineer you have to have the facts straight before you can make a diagnosis and fix the problem.An artist might think very differently.Variety is the spice of life is it not?Engineers and other scientifically minded folks will be on your wavelengths but poets artists writers etc may be on a different wavelength.The trick is to be calmly live and let live!When the ego rears it's ugly head tge going gets tough!I have been where you are many times Howe er I have a feeling that I am quite a bit older than you ej and with age does come a modicum of wisdom, also a lot of grey hair!
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Transocean employs over 25,000 people worldwide, and has a fleet of 139 offshore drilling units and three ultra-deepwater units under construction as of April 2010. The company is based in Vernier, Switzerland, near Geneva,
The company traces its roots to 1953 when the Birmingham, Alabama-based Southern Natural Gas Company created The Offshore Company after acquiring the joint drilling operation DeLong-McDermott from DeLong Engineering and J. Ray McDermott. In 1954 the company launched the first Jackup rig in the Gulf of Mexico. In 1967 the company went public. In 1978 SNG turned it into a wholly owned subsidiary. In 1982 it was changed to Sonat Offshore Drilling Inc., reflecting a change in its parent's name. In 1993 Sonat spun it off.[5]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
and the folowing for bp
There had been previous spills and fires on the Deepwater Horizon; the US Coast Guard had issued pollution citations 18 times between 2000 and 2010, and had investigated 16 fires and other incidents. The previous fires, spills, and incidents were not considered unusual for a Gulf platform and have not been connected to the April, 2010 explosion and spill.[21] The Deepwater Horizon did, however, have other serious incidents, including one in 2008 in which 77 people were evacuated from the platform when it listed and began to sink after a section of pipe was accidentally removed from the platform's ballast system.[22] By April 20, 2010 the Deepwater Horizon well operation was already running five weeks late.[23] Internal BP documents show that BP engineers had concerns as early as 2009 that the metal casing BP wanted to use might collapse under high pressure.[24] In March 2010, the rig experienced problems that included drilling mud falling into the undersea oil formation, sudden gas releases, a pipe falling into the well, and at least three occasions of the blowout preventer leaking fluid.[24] The rig's mechanic stated that the well had problems for months and that the drill repeatedly kicked due to high gas pressure providing resistance.[23]
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looking at the info it would seam a us company has been in control of this rig via leas from bp for many years
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yes non in the main stream media but i was actualy caling for members to find and post prouf here may be is the fact that i am an enginer and fix things without acurat info i cant doo this and yes i want to se at leat one peas of pruof for the coments by the op cant understand y everyne els seams not botherd at all by this
[/quote
of course ej as an engineer you have to have the facts straight before you can make a diagnosis and fix the problem.An artist might think very differently.Variety is the spice of life is it not?Engineers and other scientifically minded folks will be on your wavelengths but poets artists writers etc may be on a different wavelength.The trick is to be calmly live and let live!When the ego rears it's ugly head tge going gets tough!I have been where you are many times Howe er I have a feeling that I am quite a bit older than you ej and with age does come a modicum of wisdom, also a lot of grey hair!
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agread i am in my 40tys by the way
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There seems to always be someone stiring the pot...I remember 2 weeks ago it was Owen, now EJ, and a few before that too, it changes the atmosphere here.

Like weather the atmostphere changes sometimes turbulent sometimes calm.That is life.Now I believe that ej is a person who likes to have the facts corroberated,his ducks in a row so to speak.ej correct me if I am wrong.He is correct by saying that none of this is validated in the mainstream media but I wouldn't expect it to be.Unless one of us knows someone who didn't come back from a trip on a submarine we wouldn't know anything for sure at present at least.The no fly zone took care of that.It is much kinder to agree to disagree rather than make unkind personal comments .

me, Owen, will now defend this thread and its purpose.
few weeks ago I saw for the first time, how a thread can be distorted by socalled newcomers, I got upset.
I apologized for that, you recall?
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Yes Owen, that was my point, we all loose our cool or ruffle feathers, weather we mean to or not, that is because we are all different. That is what I meant by taking it all with a grain of salt.

And EJ, I don't care WHO you are either, (the same as I didn't care if OP was who he said, or an Aussie with a friend in a french sub)..... just add to the thread, if you require proof, then maybe you could go get some...rather than demanding it of others. We have found our own proofs, in many ways.

Goodnight All
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Earth changes, ancient organisms....could they have anything to do with solar system changes?

This is interesting....


Is the Sun Emitting a Mystery Particle?

When probing the deepest reaches of the Cosmos or magnifying our understanding of the quantum world, a whole host of mysteries present themselves. This is to be expected when pushing our knowledge of the Universe to the limit.

But what if a well-known -- and apparently constant -- characteristic of matter starts behaving mysteriously?

This is exactly what has been noticed in recent years; the decay rates of radioactive elements are changing. This is especially mysterious as we are talking about elements with "constant" decay rates -- these values aren't supposed to change. School textbooks teach us this from an early age.


WATCH VIDEO: A solar eruption sends a wave of plasma hurtling towards Earth on Aug. 1, 2010. The event was captured by NASA satellites. This is the conclusion that researchers from Stanford and Purdue University have arrived at, but the only explanation they have is even weirder than the phenomenon itself: The sun might be emitting a previously unknown particle that is meddling with the decay rates of matter. Or, at the very least, we are seeing some new physics.

Many fields of science depend on measuring constant decay rates. For example, to accurately date ancient artifacts, archaeologists measure the quantity of carbon-14 found inside organic samples at dig sites. This is a technique known as carbon dating.

Carbon-14 has a very defined half-life of 5730 years; i.e. it takes 5,730 years for half of a sample of carbon-14 to radioactively decay into stable nitrogen-14. Through spectroscopic analysis of the ancient organic sample, by finding out what proportion of carbon-14 remains, we can accurately calculate how old it is.

But as you can see, carbon dating makes one huge assumption: radioactive decay rates remain constant and always have been constant. If this new finding is proven to be correct, even if the impact is small, it will throw the science community into a spin.

Interestingly, researchers at Purdue first noticed something awry when they were using radioactive samples for random number generation. Each decay event occurs randomly (hence the white noise you'd hear from a Geiger counter), so radioactive samples provide a non-biased random number generator.

[link to news.discovery.com]
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Bevvy, that's an interesting find. Certainly, much of scientific analyses depends upon the constancy of the decay rates. Yet, many years ago, perhap 1960's when I was younger, General Electric altered the decay rate of one of those elements by changing the magnetic field of its environment. I've often wondered why scientists didn't pursue that further. Supposedly our planet's magnetic field strength has been decreasing over the past 6,000 years, until it is allegedly near zero (?) now. My guess is that this will permit the polarity reversal which happens every 12,000 years and is now due. The earth changes we are seeing might be precurser to an imminent reversal. Then I expect the pressures from the deep to find release and fill the skies with ash, along with tectonic plate movements, etc. The over-pressure anomalies we are seeing are terribly fascinating viewed from this perspective. Thanks for the article.
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Sorry editing the double post, still having probs with internet.

WB, agreed, I think it is all connected, though I thought the cycle was 26,000 years for the precession of the planets thus 1/2 cycle being 13,000. anyway gots to go to bed, we can talk on that later...:)

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There seems to always be someone stiring the pot...I remember 2 weeks ago it was Owen, now EJ, and a few before that too, it changes the atmosphere here.

Like weather the atmostphere changes sometimes turbulent sometimes calm.That is life.Now I believe that ej is a person who likes to have the facts corroberated,his ducks in a row so to speak.ej correct me if I am wrong.He is correct by saying that none of this is validated in the mainstream media but I wouldn't expect it to be.Unless one of us knows someone who didn't come back from a trip on a submarine we wouldn't know anything for sure at present at least.The no fly zone took care of that.It is much kinder to agree to disagree rather than make unkind personal comments .

me, Owen, will now defend this thread and its purpose.
few weeks ago I saw for the first time, how a thread can be distorted by socalled newcomers, I got upset.
I apologized for that, you recall?




Yes Owen, that was my point, we all loose our cool or ruffle feathers, weather we mean to or not, that is because we are all different. That is what I meant by taking it all with a grain of salt.

And EJ, I don't care WHO you are either, (the same as I didn't care if OP was who he said, or an Aussie with a friend in a french sub)..... just add to the thread, if you require proof, then maybe you could go get some...rather than demanding it of others. We have found our own proofs, in many ways.

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the fealing is mutal y the 2 ides
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Yet, many years ago, perhap 1960's when I was younger, General Electric altered the decay rate of one of those elements by changing the magnetic field of its environment. I've often wondered why scientists didn't pursue that further. SNIP from Whitebeard.

That is extremely interesting Whitebeard.
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round the the Falklands 0 vessels
but Viking Poseidon has a new location
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website down
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crap i shuldent be duing this but has it crost anybodys mind that this woteveritis organism spasifakaly atakt a rasial minoraty 20 persent mmmmm or is that 100 persent of a patikuler typ of rase

Yes it did ej but there is so much racial mixing these days that the penetration would never be 100%!

never the lest it would be interesting to no out fo all the reported dead how many ware of dark skin and how many ware mixt rase and how many ware white
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We want to consider the proximity of the dead to the cargo.

We know that 8 crew died. That sounds about right, doesn't it, for the number required to be available to bring the cargo on board. The special engineer died. We can reasonably assume he got close because he "killed the local transmitter" which probably was the transmitter on the canister.
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just ignore the bullshit
stop complaining about it filling up pages
otherwise it is you derailing the thread
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sory make that 3 id your own proofs sorry thare isent a singal one that is chekable by others as to this suposed hapernings
personal opinion anyone who changes thare ip 3 times i get instant mistrust of espeshaly wen u cum on line and atak pepol for thare opinions
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crap i shuldent be duing this but has it crost anybodys mind that this woteveritis organism spasifakaly atakt a rasial minoraty 20 persent mmmmm or is that 100 persent of a patikuler typ of rase

Yes it did ej but there is so much racial mixing these days that the penetration would never be 100%!

never the lest it would be interesting to no out fo all the reported dead how many ware of dark skin and how many ware mixt rase and how many ware white

and on top of that wot perentige of non dark skin deaths would be deamed exeptable loses to its creators if its puspos is that at all ,it dus seam very od to me iduno maybe i see things that are not thare maybe i dont
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ej, we haven't explored the subjective nature of this. Nor do I think it is appropriate, at this point in time within this thread, to start doing so. We are exploring the chemical/biological reactions based on OP's posts. Not to mention, THIS info was, like, from 200 pages ago.

We're a bit past that unless it comes up again from OP or unless someone, in their digging and research, has more to add in the objective sense.
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Sorry editing the double post, still having probs with internet.

WB, agreed, I think it is all connected, though I thought the cycle was 26,000 years for the precession of the planets thus 1/2 cycle being 13,000. anyway gots to go to bed, we can talk on that later...:)

Goodnight All
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Yes, the precession of equinoxes cycle is usually figured to be about 26,000 years, or more precisely 25,920 years because the rate of precession is about one degree every 72 years. So, 72 times 360 degrees = 25,920. But, that assumes that time is a constant during the other half cycle. Some religious texts and some scientists suggest that time will become non-linear after the polarity reversal. I don't know just what that means, but I think time will become more fluid, or more relative to the perceiver. Since there is such emphasis on the numbers of 12 and 24 in diverse texts, I have settled on the 24,000 year number for precession simply because it is easier to work with. I also think the concept of this cycle is important for understanding the process of historical paradigms, patterns, events, repetitions, etc. I've concluded that World is half a cycle and Heaven is half a cycle. Seems to work.
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Mega troll alert!! DO NOT FEED. That only accomplishes their goal.
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Who the hell are you to call a troll alert, I haven't seen to much partisipation from you except agreeing with other posters.
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We're a bit past that unless it comes up again from OP or unless someone, in their digging and research, has more to add in the objective sense.

i did surgest a fue pages ago the isue of transportation of this organism by sea life it would seam others hav pikt up on this regards the organism everyones opinion counts as espeshaly if the relavant info and links to suport it is posted at the same time as i did wots deraling this forom my pespectiv is a constant stream of ataks on myself witch you are now part of
i propose that my info i provide is very relavant and this is the reason for the ataks to stop me posting
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We're a bit past that unless it comes up again from OP or unless someone, in their digging and research, has more to add in the objective sense.

i did surgest a fue pages ago the isue of transportation of this organism by sea life it would seam others hav pikt up on this regards the organism everyones opinion counts as espeshaly if the relavant info and links to suport it is posted at the same time as i did wots deraling this forom my pespectiv is a constant stream of ataks on myself witch you are now part of
i propose that my info i provide is very relavant and this is the reason for the ataks to stop me posting
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don't understand
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Thread: HEY!! Would$$$$$$ 64 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH of GOLD$$$$$ screw up the Gold Market
link to diving for AU in lake baikal
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Transocean employs over 25,000 people worldwide, and has a fleet of 139 offshore drilling units and three ultra-deepwater units under construction as of April 2010.

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looking at the info it would seam a us company has been in control of this rig via leas from bp for many years
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Much earlier, we've had discussion on the thread about Transocean and its involvement. I believe that Transocean should also be investigated and held accountable, along with BP, for its part in the disaster.

Reminder: Proof has been posted to the thread that the real spill happened in February, or earlier, and that BP notified the US government February 13, 2010 that it had an uncontained spill.

OP has stated that evidence has been obtained showing the Deepwater Horizon rig was sabotaged. Documents that the oil spill was reported in February, way before the April 20th rig explosion, is the reasoning for many of us who insist that this is sufficient to support a claim that the DH rig was sabotaged to cover up the real spill, which appears to be unstoppable.

Transocean has a responsibility for the operation of the DH rig, regardless of which company it had leased to.


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