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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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-OP 2:57 PM for the next few hours we watched and read the transcripts in and out. from this we can make some speculations what the cargo is.. (this is only our view and our opinion)I will summarise what we think is going on

-OP 2:58 PM The PP confirmed the discovery of an unknown prehistoric organism which trough nano engineering and extreme depth and pressure morph compounds found in this new oil with seawater into gold, however there is a drawback, a massive and absolutely cataclysmic one

-OP 3:08 PM I repeat..
The PP confirmed the discovery of an unknown prehistoric organism which trough nano engineering and extreme depth and pressure morph compounds found in this new oil with seawater into gold, however there is a drawback, a massive and absolutely cataclysmic one

-OP 3:35 PM Before I state the drawback, let your mind imagine the consequence. The US have found the biggest secret in alchemy. Me and my girlfriend were up for hours discussing this. Who needs oil when you can make gold? You have the seawater, oil compounds,depth, and heat, now all you need is food for the organism. an oversupply of algae will do the job. Why isn't your president worried about the oil or the economy? because he has the goose that can lay the golden egg over and over again. How do you protect the area and the food(algae) or the organism. You tell them its deadly algae and evacuate the gulf.
That would be the plan but then something unforeseen happens as well. the gold which they thought was stable 197 stays like thats only for a few hours, then THE GOLD KEEPS ON MORNING INTO SOMETHING ELSE becuase its living and they cant stop it.

And this something else is what is happening onboard GCP and possibly now also on Em.



Then to answer your next thing :
Quote: "With respect to Russia's involvement you declare that the Russian experience in Lake B did not include nano-tech and the Russians did not have to nuke Lake B."
"What? How could Russia not experience nano-tech in Lake B., but the Russian experience there lead them to be able to calibrate for a supposed US nano-tech organism?"

I wanted to share my thoughts that the organism that the russians encountered or discovered in Lake B. was not exactly the same one as the one now in the GOM > simple reason : the russians did not nuke Lake B. for as far we know.
By the statements of OP we know that nano-tech-bots are involved in the GOM-experiment with the premodial organism.

Many countries have been experimenting with nanotechnology and lifeforms in many ways ... That the russians had the calibrator equipment does not mean that the organism in their Lake had to have been mixed with nanotechbots also ...
They could have had that technology ready for other purposes, and just had to adjust settings to make it work for the nonotech in the GOM.
The fact that the OP stated that the russians KNEW MORE is a good indicator for me ... he did not say the russians KNEW ALL ABOUT IT !
The russians helped to annalyse the cargo. Why would they have TO HELP ANALYSE if it was the same organism ??????

-OP 4:51 AM I Do read what you ask and you helped me a lot, with this reveal to the others, by giving very effective noise. I don't know everything, so allow me to also speculate again. Russia China the US and us (French) have all four launched new submarines or new weapons technology for submarines, in just the past three months after the 19th april incident.(please research this and you will verify what i said) The whole Spy thing was a clear coup in intelligence yet the people still sleep. They don't realize the spy thing is a clear preparation for war. This new war will begin and end with submarines,(I think it started already) planes wont be able to fly right, ships wont be able to function as normal because of 300/301, only submarines. this is not a practice.
I can also tell you know that russia has helped us with the organism and a 80% counter for it. this is why I said russia knows far more then us. russia was ready before us. There is still an unstable and unknown 20%. If the US doesn't nuke the problem before the war starts, I think russia or we(Europe) will. china is still playing dice.


Sattisfied now?

Its feels like the GOM thing has backfired on TPTB and maybe they have the same problem in the Falklands, lured by their greed for gold...so near but so far...and now the genie won't go back in the bottle.
I seem to remember there was some nuking of the sea floor in several places in the Arctic region a while back, and in Antarctica there was an accident where personnel became ill and had to be evacuated, and a call went out to fly in salt urgently...it was thought to be nuke related, but may have been something else. So little info gets out of Antarctica, but its my understanding there is a lot going on down there.
I read anything Antarctic related because I was interested in the astronomy going on there.
The Russians were involved in Vostock Lake if I remember correctly, and it was either this or another lake under the ice they stopped short of drilling right through to...the official line being they didn't want to disturb a pristine environment...mmmm.
Sorry this is sketchy and I've lost a lot of links to past info. Forgive me if these things have been covered before.
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i beleav a safer plase for all to talk like this would be on a forum that a nown safe person sets up in iceland as there new laws protect everyone on it regarding privasy and info anywarels is just sumones big brother suerly u all realise this

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:) nise i feal much beter now i hav had my litl tant
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snip cosmos4591
I read anything Antarctic related because I was interested in the astronomy going on there
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yes me to mate very interested
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Here it is, what's the date today? Is the season due to begin that GOM usually gets severe weather? Suppose it's possible to hope for mild conditions while they deal with the situation in the Gulf.

Thread: ** WTF ** Haarp Tards are correct... US GOVERMENT regulates the weather under US Code Law!!!!!!!!!


** WTF ** Haarp Tards are correct... US GOVERMENT regulates the weather under US Code Law!!!!!!!!!
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Just how much control do you think our government has? Do you think that they could control the weather? Think it sounds crazy, think again. They even have it written into law. Oh, I almost forgot, you had better report it to the Secretary of Commerce though if anyone outside the government wants to do it or you may get in trouble. Check out the link below to Cornell law. Make sure you read the definitions page.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

Definitions:

(1) The term “Secretary” means the Secretary of Commerce.
(2) The term “person” means any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, joint stock company, any State or local government or any agency thereof, or any other organization, whether commercial or nonprofit, who is performing weather modification activities, except where acting solely as an employee, agent, or independent contractor of the Federal Government.
(3) The term “weather modification” means any activity performed with the intention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behavior, or dynamics of the atmosphere.
(4) The term “United States” includes the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or insular possession of the United States.
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Russia China and Europe all have HAARp technology.
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Ok, we have now multiple ppl beyond ej demanding proof (ie pics) or else this thread is false.

These things strike me:

1. I find it wierd that most of these ppl have just come on recently
2. Why these ppl cannot just simply go to browsing other threads if the find the credibility of the thread lacking. No one has asked you to be the judge and the jury for us as if we need you to...
3. They have come on here supporting theories and ideas, and now have seemingly turned against the OP and ppl trying theorize.

I for one would propose if you dont have anything to add as far as theories or probabilities then Otherwise, even if it is just "entertainment" let me eat my and read the thread for new stuff that is not


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As one who has added little to this thread but appreciated efforts of the core contributors, I give this a +10,000!
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As for the ads.. all ads, they only appear if you are not registered or a paid subscriber. Those of us who are registered/paid members, do not see the ads.
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I never said that you get paid for the pop up ads, I said that you may get paid for keeping this tread going, this site, Nexus and who know who else are making money as long as this tread goes on.

That is one reason I am very skeptical of this tread.
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this site just has standerd html block and floating baner adds it is caled afiliat markiting thare is nothing abnormal about it (i hav had a look)
i hav websites myself and this is standerd practis the only way this site makes good muny is by charging for membership
upgrades and the like for more fasilatys and capabilatys
for its members they are providing a searvis its coman in big forums
nexus on the other hand make thousands every isue and are using this site and who noes how meny others in a maner that has realy suprised me i an no longer a nexus reader directly because of this thread
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i beleav a safer plase for all to talk like this would be on a forum that a nown safe person sets up in iceland as there new laws protect everyone on it regarding privasy and info anywarels is just sumones big brother suerly u all realise this
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Yes ej at first when the Internet went up I was naive enough to believe that there would be a fair and free exchange of ideas without power struggles backlash etc.That is how I use the Internet but there are those with agendas and power complexes who believe that only they have the final word on a subject.If you agree you are in the inner circle and if not you are hounded out of the arena!!It is really like a school yard isn't it ej and they can be lonely places for independant thinkers.You have endured much ridicule in your 40 ish years and so have I in my 59 years.Dyslexia is an extra burden to bear.Try not to become bitter ej,Say what you have to say because it IS important and then if you are able turn a blind eye to the insults.There is a world beyond this one and our situation there will depend on how we have acted in this one.Some will wait a long time at the pearly gates!!!!!
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Get ready for this one:

"The U.S. today decreed the Gulf of Mexico should be made into the Southern National Petroleum Reserve and should fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Military. Much like the little known National Petroleum Reserve that occupies most of northern Alaska adjacent to the oil wells in Prudhoe Bay, the Southern Petroleum Reserve will serve as an ongoing source of oil in the case of a national emergency.

where did u get this from?
sounds like a great precedent to take over your coastal neighbors

found it on the net and i am trying to find out if it is real or not before i paste the link......or do you want the link before i vet it?
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let me guess.....wonkett.com?
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awwww ta hugzzzz ya :) :hf:
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But... I've just seen a spastic fighting a midget. Beat that.
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Get ready for this one:

"The U.S. today decreed the Gulf of Mexico should be made into the Southern National Petroleum Reserve and should fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Military. Much like the little known National Petroleum Reserve that occupies most of northern Alaska adjacent to the oil wells in Prudhoe Bay, the Southern Petroleum Reserve will serve as an ongoing source of oil in the case of a national emergency.
The entire entity formerly know as the “Gulf Of Mexico” now has a higher percentage of oil than water and can no longer be considered a body of water. The U.S. considers the Reserve as its possession, the justification being that the oil from the BP drilling belonged to the U.S., the oil now composes the Gulf, therefore the Gulf belongs to the U.S. much in the same logic that the oil under Iraq now belongs to the U.S.
Arguments questioning this sudden ownership have been raised by Mexico and Cuba, but the U.S. has firmly stated that if they want a cut then they need to go pollute their own ocean, a suggestion Mexico is seriously considering with its wells on the Pacific coast. Great Britain has also lodged a claim to the oil-soaked Gulf since BP is a British company, inciting a strong response from U.S. authorities.
American interests are threatening a second Revolutionary War if England should so much as suck up a drop of oil.
“Its ours!” shouted General Barnard Machisamo to reporters at a press conference. “They need to keep their limey paws off our oil! They already tried to take over the whole Mideast after World War II and look at what a mess that is now. Let them get their feet into the Gulf and we will have to fight the whole Battle Of New Orleans over again.” (For the many historical illiterate among us please just Google “Battle Of New Orleans” and don’t pester us with dippy questions.)
American battleships await off the Florida coast in case of a Falklands-style British invasion. ( Again, Google “Falklands War”). The U.S. Navy has announced that it will rid the new Reserve of any pesky marine life still surviving in the spillage so that they will not threaten the quality of the oil pouring into the area.
The rumors that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is siphoning oil out of the ocean could lead to World War III starting in the Western Hemisphere."


Do you have a link to that ?
or the words of that link? then I will add the link for you at your article.
Great find !!!
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Oh come on and toe nou, surely you know when you're getting trolled? Oh no, maybe not, when I consider your "cryptography".

This is available at

[link to glossynews.com]

It's a joke, as an oogle search of the first line would have shown...
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i think the British are nervous about losing this:


"Last month, UK-listed firm Rockhopper discovered an oil field off the shore of the Falklands that was hailed as potentially the biggest discovery of its kind since North Sea Oil.

Oil firms have embarked on a sustained exploration programme this year, which could revolutionise the economy of the British territory and provide a massive boost to its global standing.

The drilling off the coast of the British territory, currently home to about 3,000 people, has caused consternation in Argentina and reignited calls to discuss sovereignty."

Sorry, i keep forgetting links:

[link to www.prweek.com]
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Despite what the media has said this year, there is masses of oil and resources under the Falklands. Not only that, but controlling that part of the world is important to various factions in relation to their secret Antarctic research and operations.

Russia announced the other day that it is selling military hardware to Argentina. Most of the other major South American countries have signaled that an attack on Argentina/Falklands will be viewed as an attack on them all.

I'm very curious as to which part of the Falklands area they are all going to though.
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don't worry ej,if a person can't aford 100.oo dollars this does not make him a lesser person, I've noticed two beggars solicitaing hand outs, So any one that can't afford I know one day you will and this dosen't make you a lesser person or contribiter. (spelling pfff)



We're a bit past that unless it comes up again from OP or unless someone, in their digging and research, has more to add in the objective sense.

i did surgest a fue pages ago the isue of transportation of this organism by sea life it would seam others hav pikt up on this regards the organism everyones opinion counts as espeshaly if the relavant info and links to suport it is posted at the same time as i did wots deraling this forom my pespectiv is a constant stream of ataks on myself witch you are now part of
i propose that my info i provide is very relavant and this is the reason for the ataks to stop me posting

as also unfortunaly for us all here it is actualy two forums the ones who are payed up members of this plase and the ones who are not quiet a fue actions on both sides lead me to the conclusion this plase is nither fare or impartial and is indead being abused by members for reasons i cant understand
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Whaaat? For the Russian link? That site has been linked to lots before. If that's not the reason, please explain.
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sumtimes i find myself longing for the days wen i was in school and computers and mobile phones dident exist .
climing treas playing football with ure mates and the hight of coms tec was an am cb
life was simpler then an a lot more plesant ,
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:)ta i may deside to become a member hear i nead a fue moor weeks to make up my mind tho i very rairly rush in to things thes days espeshaly on the net with regards to muny
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inrep User ID: 1069153 :)ta i may deside to become a member hear i nead a fue moor weeks to make up my mind tho i very rairly rush in to things thes days espeshaly on the net with regards to muny
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And the charade continues!!!
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goodnight everyone
time to escape from the grefers
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For the love of all I hope they're happy. Even if assumed fake this was some of the most entertaining reading I have come across in a while. And child, it was never about ej not being 'accepted', seriously is this high school. Even has a defender if you cannot see his purpose is to spam and garner attention then I don't know what to say. Hopefully OP is not deterred and continues to give updates (even if YOU feel they are 'made up'). OP has nothing to prove to any of us. He started a thread/concept, found people interested and kept giving 'updates'. Any 'truth' would not be discernible 'til long after the post. Even if this is/was a charade if nothing else numerous more people are aware of a new 'oil bacteria' then would have been had OP never posted.

Please notice that I didn't go has far as calling it AUorganism, or some of the other names that have been synonymous, I said 'oil bacteria' because it has come out through many reliable links that a new bacteria/microorganism has been discovered.
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following the above posted



Whaaat? For the Russian link? That site has been linked to lots before. If that's not the reason, please explain.
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not above post
above posted (that has vanished)
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I wasn't talking about the thread being a charade, I was talking about "ej".
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For the love of all I hope they're happy. Even if assumed fake this was some of the most entertaining reading I have come across in a while. And child, it was never about ej not being 'accepted', seriously is this high school. Even has a defender if you cannot see his purpose is to spam and garner attention then I don't know what to say. Hopefully OP is not deterred and continues to give updates (even if YOU feel they are 'made up'). OP has nothing to prove to any of us. He started a thread/concept, found people interested and kept giving 'updates'. Any 'truth' would not be discernible 'til long after the post. Even if this is/was a charade if nothing else numerous more people are aware of a new 'oil bacteria' then would have been had OP never posted.

Please notice that I didn't go has far as calling it AUorganism, or some of the other names that have been synonymous, I said 'oil bacteria' because it has come out through many reliable links that a new bacteria/microorganism has been discovered.
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+1000
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i think the British are nervous about losing this:


"Last month, UK-listed firm Rockhopper discovered an oil field off the shore of the Falklands that was hailed as potentially the biggest discovery of its kind since North Sea Oil.
SNIP
[link to www.prweek.com]


EXCELLENT find. If the oil cash cow of the GOM is shut off from BP/Crown a "back up" was in waiting all along, in their "own" territory. Exploit others' natural resources before you go off digging up your own.

They just discovered it? Right.
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Naw, I think it's a scam and that the UK is sucking wind. They don't have this kind of backup and without the GOM, my guess is that the Brits are SOL. The US done pledged all its extra to Is ra el.

Does anybody really think that Argentina is going to allow England to move in, again, on their territory after the London bankers cleaned out the entire country ten years ago?
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Russia China and Europe all have HAARp technology.
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According too the "Japanese Guy" he too, has HAARP technology.
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Whaaat? For the Russian link? That site has been linked to lots before. If that's not the reason, please explain.

not above post
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Well, at least give us a hint what that is about. I don't want to step in the same hole.
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Russia China and Europe all have HAARp technology.

Is Japanese guy still around?I remember being chilled to the bone by the perceived hatred in his posts.

Last Edited by childoflight on 09/01/2010 08:51 PM
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Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
I too have been watching from the first day but have to respectfully disagree.The fact that some posters have put extraordinary effort into the thread is obvious but it does not give them right of ownership.The thread was begun by OP and the rest of us are merely players.Hopefully we can leave our egos out of it and learn to cooperate as a working unit regardless of when we became interested in the thread.Personal attacks are childish as is cliquishness.Let's give credit where credit is due and then get on with the job at hand in an atmostphere of mutual respect and harmony.

I'm with you on this one, It seems as though if you name is not Krispy, Housdad,Hans,Tamale Tex Renegade and a few others your posts are irrevelent, I would mention tutuwuu and isis but new to the thread and in contact with the cliche, SAD SAD SAD!

Hmmm... Speaking just for myself, if what you say is true, then you would see my presence on this thread more than you do. When you do see my presence, I am posting facts... I am not engaging in counter speculations or accusations, or arguments, or who belongs to what inside group. Personally, I welcome all viewpoints if related to the overall discussion of this thread... with the OP's posts as a basis for this discussion, as OP's posts are all that we have to go on.
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Rengegade I found the site where all the scientists revelant to this topic are listed however it won't let me embed, sorry, I'd give the site but am in frar of getting banned, Rense and out!
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Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
WHAT THE F.... IS GOING ON HERE ?????????????

I left this thread for a few days and have to catch up 30+ pages and 3/4 of all posts since then are full of shilling, trolling, personal attacks and far off-topic. Even some of the main posters here have jumped on the band-waggon.

Seriously, what the hell is going on?

OK, I know we had that Owen Meany poster with a 24h-brain collapse...but who has not had a "bad day". He appologized, re-booted his brain and is back again. No hard feelings, all is ok.

Now we have ej-buddy, who seems to have a permanent brain damage. That is sad, but - hey, nobody is perfect. But ej, please try to take your time and try to use a better english. For a not native english speaking person like myself it's hard to understand what are you trying to say. I really would like to understand your message, but I need at least 3-times the time to try to understand some words and hence, the whole sentence might be wrong interpreted by me (& by others?). So please do me a favour and try to improve. We are all here to learn something. - In case you really get a government paycheck to be here, you are doing a bad job. I have my doubts......

So let's try to get back where we have been before.

I leave this message, if someone wants to quote and will post something related to Falklands......

Be nice to each other.

Edit: Note I can edit now as well. (loud laughter)

Last Edited by White Widow on 09/01/2010 09:09 PM

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