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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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ah no new info today interesting jusk the site klik massageing itself
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did you just call us a klit? Dems fiten words.
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Below is a portion of the transcript from Wednesday’s teleconference press briefing by Admiral Thad Allen, National Incident Commander for the Deepwater Horizon/BP oil spill.

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Thad Allen's update from Sept. 1st from

[link to tentdwellers.org]
September 1, 2010

10:30 a.m. CDT


Thad Allen: Thank you, Jeff.

Good morning. As you know, I’m here in Houston today. This morning I met with the BP engineering team and their senior leadership. We had a conference call with Secretary Salazar and his science team going over the current conditions out on site and our current efforts at oil control. I’d like to give you an update on that and then I’d like to talk a little bit about subsea oil, which has been a topic of concern to a lot of folks and I’d be glad to take your questions after that.

We are currently in a holding pattern offshore waiting to proceed with the replacement of the blowout preventer, the legacy blowout preventer from the Deepwater Horizon in advance of putting a new blowout preventer on that will allow us to have pressure integrity in the well, allow us to proceed with the oil kill itself.

We’ve hit a weather window where it’s been difficult for us to move forward. I’d like to explain that briefly and then tell you how we think we’re going to move ahead.

We anticipate removing the blowout preventer with the latching mechanism that will be attached to a drill pipe string that will be suspended from the Q4000. There’s a picture of the Q4000 right to my left here.

The combined weight of the drill string, the latching mechanism and the blowout preventer itself is approximately a million pounds. When they released that blowout preventer from the well it will be suspended at about 5000 feet below the surface.

There are two things we’re concerned about when this occurs, number one is the wave height. You can imagine the Q4000 riding up and down on the waves. When they ride up it exerts more dynamic loading on that pipe system. So we’re concerned about the weight and the ability of the pipe system to handle that. So there is a limit as far as the wave height for being able to recover the BOP.

Secondarily, when you have something suspended 5000 feet below a drilling rig like this you have a pendulum motion. It kind of swings around and that’s related to the period of the swell – of the swells in the waves when they come through. So the combination of the period of the waves and the height of the waves creates a set of conditions that dictates when you can safely do this. We are in a window now where we cannot do that because it exceeds the safety factors. We believe, in the next 24 to 36 hours, we will enter a weather window that will allow us to proceed.

So with that in mind, we are making preparations right now to take advantage of that weather window which we believe will last Thursday, Friday, Saturday, potentially into Sunday to remove the blowout preventer.

The first step that will be taken will be tomorrow around midday. We will bring in the Discoverer Enterprise. They already have a riser pipe that’s been dropped down to about 4000 feet with a latching device and they will remove the capping stack. That is the capping stack we put on on the 15 of July that basically shut the well in. So we will remove that and the Discoverer Enterprise will then move away.

At that point, the Q4000 will come in and latch up and will be ready to (lift) the blowout preventer when the reach the wave height and the period of wave that will allow them to be in the safety window.

We’re moving in advance, knowing that when we get the window we need to be able to move right then.

So the Q4000 will be hooked up, ready to release the blowout preventer and lift it, and we’ll be ready to do that when they achieve the weather window, which we think will come sometime in about 24 to 36 hours from now.

Once that happens, the blow out preventer will be lifted, brought to the surface and to give you an idea, if you look at the photograph just to my left here—it’s kind of hard to see because the darkness of the photograph—but that’s a very large object and there are two tugboats underneath the Q4000 managing that so you can see how large the Q4000 is. It will literally raise the blowout preventer up through the Q4000 and if you look to the picture on the left, there’s a very high derrick there in the set of cranes. One of the interesting things about the Q4000 is that it has the height to be able to lift that blowout preventer completely up out of the water and place it on deck on the Q4000.

Ultimately they will take apart the lower marine riser package from the blowout preventer, store those on the Q4000, get in closer to shore and then transfer those to other vessels or barges to be taken to a staging area. This will all be done under the supervision of the joint investigations team and under the conditions laid out by the Department of Justice regarding the evidentiary requirements for handling the blowout preventer, which is material to the number of investigations that are going on.

Once the blowout preventer is removed, development driller two which was drilling the second relief well, will move in with the new blowout preventer and will place it on top of the well. At that point, there will be a series of diagnostics conducted to make sure that the well is – the blowout preventer is functioning properly, including testing the valves and ability to retain pressure and so forth.

Once the blowout preventer has been tested we will be then in position to proceed with the killing of the well, if you will. And we are looking that the timeline to move forward, but it is contingent on completing these steps and these steps I would pass on to you that are contingent themselves on weather. And the removal of the blowout preventer could be impacted by the fact of whether or not the pipe that is suspected of being suspended below the blowout preventer is in contact with any cement that might have adhered to it while we were doing the static kill, whether or not we have to pull to get that free. One of two things could happen, the blowout preventer comes free and it’s not a problem. We lift it up and at some point we will cut the pipe below the blowout preventer and that will be taken to the surface by another vessel.

If we cannot free the pipe from the blowout preventer by applying about 80,000 pounds of pull, we will manually open the rams, remove the blowout preventer and then cut the pipe off after we’ve removed the blowout preventer. So we will try to pull the whole thing up together. If we can’t, we will mechanically open the rams and remove the blowout preventer.
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We believe then if we do that then we can go ahead and proceed with killing the well sometime after Labor Day weekend. But again, this is conditions based on weather and then the condition of the pipe as it relates to blowout preventer when we attempt to remove it.

That’s the current status. I was out at the well site on Monday. I was aboard the Q4000. I climbed down below on the catwalks to take a look at the area underneath there where they bring the blowout preventer up. And it’s hard to see now, but in a six foot sea state you’d be amazed at how much up and down vertical movement there is that is hard to detect unless you’re sitting right on top of it. So this is a good safety call. We’ll have to wait for the right weather window to proceed.

I’d like to talk also today about subsea oil monitoring. As you know, there’s been a lot of conversation about the potential and the extent of any hydrocarbons that might be present in the Gulf of Mexico. This relates also to the discussion of the oil budget that took place several weeks ago. There’ve been several academic institutions that have set research vessels out. There’s been extensive monitoring by NOAA and EPA since the start of this event. Several weeks ago, I sent a letter to Rear Admiral Paul Zukunft, the Unified Area Commander, and directed him to come up with a comprehensive hydrocarbon monitoring plan.

My goal was to take all the extensive efforts that are going on and see if we could unify them into a comprehensive knowledge management based picture of the Gulf of Mexico as it relates to the presence of hydrocarbons in the water column. To date, there have been over 27,000 samples taken in over 182,000 miles in the Gulf of Mexico, but my goal is to bring all this together and get it into one coherent picture that both the government and the academic community can look at, understand, discuss and draw conclusions from.

To that end, Admiral Zukunft is preparing an implementation plan for this unified testing program and this week we are socializing that plan with academic institutions around the Gulf. Yesterday, we had meetings at the University of South Florida in St. Petersburg. Today, we are meeting with the Gulf of Mexico institute in Biloxi Mississippi and we will also be meeting at Tulane University.

The goal is to understand the work in progress, the aspirations, and any value added we can gain by talking to the academicians that are involved in trying to understand the presence of hydrocarbons.

Moving forward, this will allow us to better understand what kind of threat remains out there and this will also set the stage for long-term natural resource damage assessment and any long-term sampling requirements that might need to be carried out under the shift to the natural resources damage assessment.

I’ve got a couple of charts up here that just kind of indicate the density of some of the testing that’s been done and these relate to testing anywhere from using autonomous underwater vehicles to collect sample to putting down crab traps in and around the coastal areas of what we call snare boom. It’s the pom pom like booms, you’ve probably seen that where oil sticks to it and you pull them up occasionally to see if there’s been any oil in contact with it.

It also includes testing that has been done with the NOAA oceanographic vehicles and just an array of some of the different types of technology that’s been used out there. A lot of folks have been working on this very, very hard since the start of the spill with the wellhead under control and the shifting concerned to long-term impacts of hydrocarbons in the water column. This is a prudent thing to do at this point and we’re anxious to move forward and unify the technology effort in support of understanding better either the presence or the lack thereof or the disposition and the fate of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico.

With that, I’d be glad to take any questions you have for me today. If you could identify yourself? You got a microphone? Please go ahead.

Female: (Inaudible – no microphone).

Thad Allen: Well, it will largely be within the purview of what we call the joint investigation team. That’s a joint team that was established by the Department of Interior, the Department of Homeland Security and that team has been holding hearings not only in New Orleans, but here. That was the body that issued the subpoenas for the blowout preventer. There’ll be a chain of custody to make sure that we know exactly the condition and that there is continuous monitoring. They’ll be including ROVs when we start to actually move it. Ultimately it will be taken to a point somewhere on land where everything we put together with the other debris and pieces that have been recovered from the rig itself.

A lot of this right now is currently at the U.S. Coast Guard station, at the (inaudible) facility, the Nassau facility on the Mississippi River Gulf outlet in New Orleans exactly where it finally ends up I think is yet to be determined but that’s the nominal plan at this point.

Is that responsive?

Female: (Inaudible). Can you just elaborate on the risk of using (inaudible), what actually (inaudible).

Thad Allen: Well, what you don’t want to do is try and lift a heavy object and have the lifting device capability be exceeded by the weight loan on it. In other words, you don’t want the pipe to break. And what they’re looking at, they’ve already – what they’re actually engineering in between a 1.5 and a 1.75 margin of excellence. In other words, if you’re going to be lifting a million pounds, they want – the pipe will stand 1.75 million pounds.

Male: Admiral, this is (inaudible) from Dow Jones. I understood, well, you are planning to remove the capping stack before the weather window appears, or do you have to wait 24, 36 hours to start doing that?

Thad Allen: That’s a good question. We can remove the capping stack a little before the Q4000 because the Discoverer Enterprise and the riser pipe can withstand greater sea states. OK? The riser pipe coming down from the Discoverer Enterprise was designed to actually fit on the well. If you remember, we used it to produce oil coming up. The latching device is going to lift the blowout preventer to the Q4000 is a drill string. So it is not the same type of mechanism to lift it and it has different sets of parameters in which they can operate in. We can remove the Discoverer Enterprise and remove the capping stack in advance than have the Q4000 ready to go when we hit the weather window. Good question.

Male: (Inaudible – no microphone).

Thad Allen: Tomorrow at noon we will start. If everything holds according to plan, tomorrow around noon we will start removing the capping stack with the Discoverer Enterprise—move the Q4000 in and have it in position to be able to lift the blowout preventer when we get the weather window.

SNIP.....
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Rengegade I found the site where all the scientists revelant to this topic are listed however it won't let me embed, sorry, I'd give the site but am in frar of getting banned, Rense and out!


Regarding the articles posted across the internet about dead microbiologists ...

Nearly ten years ago, I was sent the latest version of that list, as part of an article by a then 'respected' writer and researcher on conspiracy-related topics.

Upon a basic fact-checking of the list of dead scientists, I was shocked to learn that many of them were still very much alive. The author has ASSUMED the list was accurate and had built up on it from there in terms of further assumptions and conclusions.

I had to reject the article simply because it was full of factual errors, and that therefore his theories about a pending biowarfare attack on a particular racial grouping was invalidated.

That list is still floating around with yet new names added. Nobody does any fact checking on it - and it is quoted as gospel truth by many well-meaning and respected writers.
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Nexus, is this straight from you that facts are being checked on the GOM story before publication in your rag?
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i don't have access to orange at the moment. ETA between 9:00 and 10:00 tomorrow only. (use telefon key for identification in 1977)

'Miles to go before I sleep"

This is what I posted back on 501

but ok here is something

telephone key for 'orange'

6 7 2 6 4 3

and that is probably the/(part1977) of the algorithm key to decrypt a message in alphanumeric

but then again i could be wrong

"Miles to go before I sleep' is a line from a Robert Frost poem that was used in the 1977 movie 'Telefon', as a trigger to activate a covert operative.
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thank you,
knowledge is power
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..
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Didn't go unnoticed .Up went the red flags.
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..
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We picked up on it. Goes back to earlier discussion on the thread whether there was contact between them, or whether they might be the same person. Still don't know, do we?
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..
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We picked up on it. Goes back to earlier discussion on the thread whether there was contact between them, or whether they might be the same person. Still don't know, do we?
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your op was directly acused of lying and asked to post the ded in an unfeterd raw form by quiet a fue pepol suprise nothing anyone who was genuin would hav prouved himself imeadiatly .regarding the members here who post most of u but not all seam to just ridicule and insult anyone who disagres with ure klik insted of taking the intelagent path of providing bonafide facts yes facts confermable to proov them wrong howeaver you canot do this .thes action by members do one thing to all who obsearv this on this forum YOU dicredit it YOU hav turned your own forum in to a disinfomation circus
congratulations
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go to orange
cant acsess orange

orange is a place(?)
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I know the Russians successfully sealed off at least half a dozen oil wells using small nukes, and others didn't get sealed. There's a couple of clips on youtube actually. I don't know how many nukes they used to seal deep sea leaks though.


Tnx nexus,
Yes I had read about that. But was that specific for Lake V or B ?
And then again, I dont think that that would also mean that they had the/a premodial organism in those leaking wells ...
the leaking of the wells (as I had understood) was due to changing pressures like you explained in more of your postings.
It does not have to implicate that every leaking well nuked had the AUrganism and /or a nano-engeneered version of it ... imo.
What is your opinion on that?
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I'm not Nexus, but want to repeat what was put out here much earlier in the thread.

In the 1970's when/after Mars exploration was being funded, Wolf Vishnic developed the "Wolf Trap" for the express purpose of capturing alien bacteria for research. The importance of the trap was to keep such bacteria isolated until further research could determine if there could be harm in contact.

The Wolf Trap lost its funding and did not go to Mars.

Vishnic was later sent to Antarctica in the scientific rush to examine the warm under-ice lake. This man was a vocal opponent of wild-west type of research without taking built-in precautions against unknown organisms. Vishnic died in Antarctica, reported to have fallen in a crevice. Many people believed he had been killed for his effort to limit the scope of digging into the frozen ice without taken precaution for unknown consequences.

It is highly likely that Russians have developed a high degree of technical capability with underwater, iced conditions and unfrozen, prehistoric organisms.
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I know the Russians successfully sealed off at least half a dozen oil wells using small nukes, and others didn't get sealed. There's a couple of clips on youtube actually. I don't know how many nukes they used to seal deep sea leaks though.


Tnx nexus,
Yes I had read about that. But was that specific for Lake V or B ?
And then again, I dont think that that would also mean that they had the/a premodial organism in those leaking wells ...
the leaking of the wells (as I had understood) was due to changing pressures like you explained in more of your postings.
It does not have to implicate that every leaking well nuked had the AUrganism and /or a nano-engeneered version of it ... imo.
What is your opinion on that?
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I'm not Nexus, but want to repeat what was put out here much earlier in the thread.

In the 1970's when/after Mars exploration was being funded, Wolf Vishnic developed the "Wolf Trap" for the express purpose of capturing alien bacteria for research. The importance of the trap was to keep such bacteria isolated until further research could determine if there could be harm in contact.

The Wolf Trap lost its funding and did not go to Mars.

Vishnic was later sent to Antarctica in the scientific rush to examine the warm under-ice lake. This man was a vocal opponent of wild-west type of research without taking built-in precautions against unknown organisms. Vishnic died in Antarctica, reported to have fallen in a crevice. Many people believed he had been killed for his effort to limit the scope of digging into the frozen ice without taken precaution for unknown consequences.

It is highly likely that Russians have developed a high degree of technical capability with underwater, iced conditions and unfrozen, prehistoric organisms.
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I agree 10000% on that !
Thanks for the share :D
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A Collogue asked me to post this link today on the BEZERK thread at Godlike Productions.
I Found a few BEZERK threads in search. I Assume it was meant for this thread.

Thread: <<< ALERT! >>> My Observations and sources indicate another Major Event to occur on or near 26 June 2010 TIME PLOT TO PORT OR DIE

19 April and onwards:

- NASA experiences problems with Voyager 2
- The X-51A Waverider is launched {what "wave" is it supposed to "ride"}
- Horizon DEEP explodes on the day X- 51A is launched
- Solar flare erupts
- NASA spots "artificial object" in space
- The earths frequency increases by the biggest jump since technology was able to record it
- Volcanic ash and threats of eruptions to effect Europe
- Eurozone Meltdown
- Obama says:" TOP Scientist from around the World are investigating this problem(oil spill) and studying solutions and contingency plans" {this reminds me of Morgan Freemon's words in that movie DEEP Impact it think it was}
- TOP kill to be tried THREE times
- Korea Distraction
- Large scale mobilization and deployment begins for National Guard Units.
- Rumors of DEFCON 2 alert level
- oh, and before I forget The Year is 2010
- My observations and sources indicate a another Major Event is to occur on or near 26 June 2010

TOP aka Time-Out Protocols x 3
DEEP aka Delivered Extinction-Event Protocols
X-51A aka Area 51
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VERY interresting !!!
I will have a closer look to it
when I come back lateron.

Tnx for posting.

Just a hint :
Fred Hwang (LNGU) on Twitter -
Get updates via SMS by texting follow LNGU to 40404 in the United States Codes for other countries. Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes: ...
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-snip-

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This all made and makes me think that THIS organism is different (and what OP suggested that the US did with it).


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K-spy YOU LIE!

OP never said the US did something with the organism. Keep the facts straight so we can make sense of this mess.

Liar!
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Brits still sucking wind!


Just a piece from Shell to Sea.

You see there are no borders for big oil they control, or will try to , all governments.
I found this as I was looking at the Rockall shelf. Who knows what we have in the north sea, another theater maybe?

Wednesday, 21st July 2010
For immediate release

BP TO RECOUP LOSSES IN IRELAND

BP decides to do business in Ireland in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

The decision comes after the oil giant was forced to set up a remedial fund of $20 billion by the US government in the aftermath of the USA’s worst ever oil spill. Senior sources said that BP would easily recoup its Gulf of Mexico losses by coming and taking its share of Ireland’s oil and gas fields.

The Shell to Sea campaign issued the invitation after a weekend of reflection in Inchydoney Island Lodge and Spa. “It’s time to fall in with the consensus in Ireland, to ignore the evidence of our eyes over the past ten years, and to give unconditional support to the oil industry and government,” said new Shell to Sea spokesperson Bertie Ahern. “Our recent experience with the Corrib Gas field shows that if BP come to Ireland, they won’t have to worry about such matters as health and safety, royalties and state shares in our oil and gas – we give it all away for free, and then like eejits, we buy it back at full market price!”

“Best of all, like Shell in Mayo, all BP’s costs now and in the future can be written off against tax on any eventual profits they declare! And there’s no need to worry about local residents who may object to BP’s cavalier approach to their health and safety – this government’s glorious tradition of light-touch regulation for the very rich and violent repression for effective protest, has survived the financial crisis unscathed!”

BP could, for example, recover all its Gulf of Mexico losses with one recent large oil find off the coast of Dalkey, Co. Dublin. Providence Resources and the Malaysian state oil company, Petronas, each stand to make €30 billion from this find alone.

However, the all-new Shell to Sea and the residents of Dalkey are keen to ensure that BP are the ones who tap into that oil in the bay. “Oil exploration is a tricky business and it should be left to the experts,” said Tarquin Ramsbottom the III, Green Party acting Lord Mayor of Dalkey. “Local residents generally know nothing and anyway they don't count. BP, like Shell, have the technology and the track record to ensure that this drilling will be done to the highest standards of safety, causing no harm to the environment or the local wildlife and fisheries. Like our government, we hold staunchly to this belief.”



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Well I go to work now. See you guys after 4:00 Seattle time.
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..



We picked up on it. Goes back to earlier discussion on the thread whether there was contact between them, or whether they might be the same person. Still don't know, do we?
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all he would nead to apear to be 2 pepol is 2 pc one with ip hide in it and select the french flag hey presto new id in frans it dismays me to watch you pepol follow sumone without question you will be seting up alters next ffs
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This makes sense...

'British Hit Team Spy Killed After Top BP Critic Assassinated'

A troubling new Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that a British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS, also known as MI6) spy who was a part of the ‘hit team’ ordered to assassinate a top US oil expert, and critic of BP, Matthew Simmons [photo 3rd left] has himself been murdered.

According to this report, British spy Gareth Williams [photo 2nd left] returned to London on August 11th from the United States on a flight from Boston a little less than 36 hours after Simmons was “murder-suicided” in his Maine vacation home, was last seen alive in London on August 15th, and was discovered murdered and stuffed into a sports bag in the bathtub of his flat on August 23rd.
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[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]
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+1
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The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
- Sun Tzu
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Below is a portion of the transcript from Wednesday’s teleconference press briefing by Admiral Thad Allen, National Incident Commander for the Deepwater Horizon/BP oil spill.

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Thad Allen's update from Sept. 1st from

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September 1, 2010

10:30 a.m. CDT


Thad Allen: Thank you, Jeff.

Good morning. As you know, I’m here in Houston today. This morning I met with the BP engineering team and their senior leadership. blah, blah, blah .......

SNIP.....
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Blah, blah for us sheeple, but also:



"Thad Allen: Thank you, Jeff.

Good morning. As you know, I’m here in Houston today. ..... I’d like to talk a little bit about subsea oil, which has been a topic of concern to a lot of folks and I’d be glad to take your questions after that."


Yes, I want to hear about the "subsea" oil, but Thad never gets around to "subsea oil."

Istead we get talk about hydrates in the water column and how the government is going to coordinate with research from the many universities running tests.

At this point, I can only suppose that this means that the reports coming out of the universities will be required to be reported through, and be censored by the government, before the public is allowed any information.

Not good!
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The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
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If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu
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-snip-

.......

This all made and makes me think that THIS organism is different (and what OP suggested that the US did with it).


....



K-spy YOU LIE!

OP never said the US did something with the organism. Keep the facts straight so we can make sense of this mess.

Liar!

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I have posted the quotes before on an other page.

Call me whatever you want, I dont mind ...
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..



We picked up on it. Goes back to earlier discussion on the thread whether there was contact between them, or whether they might be the same person. Still don't know, do we?
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What are the chances of OP and Aacolyte reading this thread at the same time. It could also indicate that they spend a good deal of there time watching these threads instead of translating. hummm
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so what happened to the sub?
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Could someone sum up this thread for me please? I tried to start reading in the beginning but I got lost....
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A question for all those fellow mates...did it go unnoticed that Acolyte and OP actually had an interchange right on this thread today?? Acolyte addressed OP directly and told him to go orange, and a little later OP replied that he couldn't...I was waiting, and I don't think anyone even made mention of it...distracted I think..



We picked up on it. Goes back to earlier discussion on the thread whether there was contact between them, or whether they might be the same person. Still don't know, do we?

What are the chances of OP and Aacolyte reading this thread at the same time. It could also indicate that they spend a good deal of there time watching these threads instead of translating. hummm
 Quoting: rken

Maybe they have, but on this occasion, Acolyte made his post for OP to go to 'Orange' at 12:02PM on 9/1... OP responded at 3:12PM on 9/1.. over three hours time had elapsed.
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Could someone sum up this thread for me please? I tried to start reading in the beginning but I got lost....
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EJ, you take this one lol
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I know the Russians successfully sealed off at least half a dozen oil wells using small nukes, and others didn't get sealed. There's a couple of clips on youtube actually. I don't know how many nukes they used to seal deep sea leaks though.


Tnx nexus,
Yes I had read about that. But was that specific for Lake V or B ?
And then again, I dont think that that would also mean that they had the/a premodial organism in those leaking wells ...
the leaking of the wells (as I had understood) was due to changing pressures like you explained in more of your postings.
It does not have to implicate that every leaking well nuked had the AUrganism and /or a nano-engeneered version of it ... imo.
What is your opinion on that?
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I'm not Nexus, but want to repeat what was put out here much earlier in the thread.

In the 1970's when/after Mars exploration was being funded, Wolf Vishnic developed the "Wolf Trap" for the express purpose of capturing alien bacteria for research. The importance of the trap was to keep such bacteria isolated until further research could determine if there could be harm in contact.

The Wolf Trap lost its funding and did not go to Mars.

Vishnic was later sent to Antarctica in the scientific rush to examine the warm under-ice lake. This man was a vocal opponent of wild-west type of research without taking built-in precautions against unknown organisms. Vishnic died in Antarctica, reported to have fallen in a crevice. Many people believed he had been killed for his effort to limit the scope of digging into the frozen ice without taken precaution for unknown consequences.

It is highly likely that Russians have developed a high degree of technical capability with underwater, iced conditions and unfrozen, prehistoric organisms.
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I agree 10000% on that !
Thanks for the share :D

I can't find my original articles on Arctic/Antarctic stuff as mentioned in previous post, however these may give a flavour...

Arctic Nuke Explosions
[link to www.Gas_oven.com]

South Pole Nuclear Reactor Accident?
Look who's down there...Raytheon
[link to www.rense.com]

Bacteria Eat Up Oil in Antarctica
[link to www.tierramerica.info]
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I know the Russians successfully sealed off at least half a dozen oil wells using small nukes, and others didn't get sealed. There's a couple of clips on youtube actually. I don't know how many nukes they used to seal deep sea leaks though.


Tnx nexus,
Yes I had read about that. But was that specific for Lake V or B ?
And then again, I dont think that that would also mean that they had the/a premodial organism in those leaking wells ...
the leaking of the wells (as I had understood) was due to changing pressures like you explained in more of your postings.
It does not have to implicate that every leaking well nuked had the AUrganism and /or a nano-engeneered version of it ... imo.
What is your opinion on that?
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I'm not Nexus, but want to repeat what was put out here much earlier in the thread.

In the 1970's when/after Mars exploration was being funded, Wolf Vishnic developed the "Wolf Trap" for the express purpose of capturing alien bacteria for research. The importance of the trap was to keep such bacteria isolated until further research could determine if there could be harm in contact.

The Wolf Trap lost its funding and did not go to Mars.

Vishnic was later sent to Antarctica in the scientific rush to examine the warm under-ice lake. This man was a vocal opponent of wild-west type of research without taking built-in precautions against unknown organisms. Vishnic died in Antarctica, reported to have fallen in a crevice. Many people believed he had been killed for his effort to limit the scope of digging into the frozen ice without taken precaution for unknown consequences.

It is highly likely that Russians have developed a high degree of technical capability with underwater, iced conditions and unfrozen, prehistoric organisms.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087048


I agree 10000% on that !
Thanks for the share :D

Sorry one of the links went wrong. trying again...

I can't find my original articles on Arctic/Antarctic stuff as mentioned in previous post, however these may give a flavour...

Arctic Nuke Explosions
[link to www.Gas_oven.com]

South Pole Nuclear Reactor Accident?
Look who's down there...Raytheon
[link to www.rense.com]

Bacteria Eat Up Oil in Antarctica
[link to www.tierramerica.info]
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Hey Yahweh, now that you debunked the thread i guess we won't be seeing you and EJ anymore... bye, bye
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Than how do you explain Krispy clearly addressing OZICELL as OP???
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(edited for brevity)
I won't speak for Krispy. Why don't you ask Krispy for yourself.

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