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I can't find any ships in the Gulf either!!!! Are the transponders off or is something very sinister going on. In the early Summer the methane content of the water around the DWH site was a million times more than it should have been. Who knows what it is now. Is there anyone on the Gulf noticing any unusual activity. The badges on the BP cleanup workers uniforms is worrisone. They appeared about a week ago. Massive fish kills are not normal. Even if the fish ran out of O2 they ahould not have been in shallow waters in such incredible numbers unlass they were driven there by unspeakable conditions in the Gulf! The place is toxic, hell even the dogs won't drink the rainwater, poeple are sick, blood tests for by products of oil are sky high in those who have been tested. This is a nightmare but it is being covered up in a major way. One of these days though I don't think they will be able to cover it up any more. the ramifications will be uncontrollable. IS THERE ANYONE ON THE GULF THAT CAN UPDATE US????
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.
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imminent danger?
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.


imminent danger?
 Quoting: dhlos 1099426

Relief wells did intersect...
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snip-
imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...
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hmmmm
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To clarify a little bit on transponders.. this site will help.
[link to www.suite101.com]
<snip>
Marine AIS Class A Transponders Must Transmit Continuously
The Coast Guard's rules don't just require that commercial vessels carry Class A AIS transponders; the units must be properly installed, function properly and transmit continuously.

The rules allow only one exception to this requirement: "Should continual operation of AIS compromise the safety or security of the vessel or where a security incident is imminent, the AIS may be switched off. This action and the reason for taking it must be reported to the nearest U.S. Captain of the Port or Vessel Traffic Center and recorded in the ship's logbook. The AIS should return to continuous operation as soon as the source of danger has been mitigated. "

Ships experiencing malfunctions of their shipboard AIS units must report the problem to the nearest VTS operations center.


imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

you try to say ??
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.
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Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2
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Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book.
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Apparently at the point of intersection it is possible for a blow back to occur. Before they installed the second BOP there was a definite leakage of oil and gas from the stack and it was worsening. At that point the video feeds pretty much stopped! I can find nothing now and know for sure that something major is being hidden. Is ANYONE finding any ships IN the Gulf? I was wondering whether I might be making a mistake using the link. A week or so ago there were a lot of ships clustered around the DWH. If they are gone the situation HAS to be unsafe. I can't beleive that the ship that drilled the relief well isn't there. What was it's name? Can anyone find it? That might be a clue.


snip-
imminent danger?

Relief wells did intersect...

hmmmm
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Sorry message above in the wrong location.
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Hmmm. This may be somewhat relevant to the debate...

[link to www.royalnavy.mod.uk]

Long story short, the Royal Navy are sending their hottest air defence asset to the US Eastern Coast.

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Sanglier 1101486



At the link:

"The first of the Royal Navy’s new formidable air defence warships, HMS Daring, is busy preparing for her first overseas deployment.

....
She will arrive in Norfolk, Virginia, the largest naval base in the world, later this month to take part in pre-exercise briefings. From there she will conduct work-up exercises with a US Carrier Strike Group led by the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise."


[I post redundant pieces out of links to help compensate for a tendency for some links to go 404.]
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.
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Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
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no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.


Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
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They are mostly anchored WELL INLAND!!!!!!!!!!
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.


Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.
 Quoting: 1221 1093619

can you give me a link which hurricane(s) you are talking about and threatening the watertraffic, in the Golf?
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www.stormpulse.com
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www.stormpulse.com
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here too:
[link to www.wunderground.com]
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www.stormpulse.com
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have check the site. whats the problem?
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[link to www.wired.com]

cross referenced with shipping routes
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2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys

by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element
through the engineering of the nano's
mutating/catalysing the AUganism

just thoughts



Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes?

here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course

link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]



??? !!!!

Oh, my gosh!

The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill?


No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2



Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101500


It is nice to see the open exchanges on this thread. That said, come on -- 1+1=2
If it was only that site that we had as evidence, I would be suspect like you and the other poster flying Netherlands colors with the nice behind he showed me.


But you know as well as I do that hurricanes only form in the GOM and the Atlantic (or cyclones in other regions) due to one main factor or ingredient in most all cases - warm water...

So that link first given to that site had a date other than current, so was giving false, cooler temp info. When the date is adjusted to this month, it yes, looks like it should. It is that simple. (site + lot's of hurricanes or tropical storms)1+1=2

"Generally, a hurricane begins its formation when a storm passes over a body of 80 degree or higher water."
see link to this quote below.


Necessary Conditions for Hurricanes to Form


1. 80 degree, or warmer, water temperature, which is at least 150 feet deep
2. A low pressure area with wind disturbance
3. A lack of stability in the air, which allows clouds to develop
4. A centrifugal force, known as a Coriolis Force, stemming from the earth's rotation
5. Moist air, i.e., a thunderstorm, in the lower portion of the atmosphere
6. Low level winds, with directional changes, known as wind shear



Read more at Suite101: How Do Hurricanes Form?: What Weather Conditions Support the Storms [link to www.suite101.com]
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so, just checked, NO ships in Golf at location DWH and wide surroundings
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a very revealing story

Is the window of opportunity in Russian-U.S. relations closing?

It is always interesting to watch a shooting star or to see an e-mail fall from cyberspace. This time, I received an article "Changing Course in Moscow" by Jeffrey Mankoff from the upcoming September/October issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Mankoff is the author of the book "Russian Foreign Policy: The Return of Great Power Politics."

There is clearly a new policy — what Mankoff calls a "dramatic shift" — as President Medvedev is the force behind the efforts to modernize the Russian economy with the help of the United States and the European Union. For former President Vladimir Putin to propose this during the presidency of George W. Bush would have been laughable. The author's argument is fairly obvious, but then he comes across an interesting thought that boils down to two words: two years.

It is relationship between the United States and China that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has referred to as the most important issue in the world, followed by the Greater Middle East (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, etc.), and only then by relations between Russia and the West.

a lot more here

[link to en.rian.ru]
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general info

no ships appear to be in GOM at the location

all the transponders off ? or they are really not there?

link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com]

That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high.

spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on



I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area.

It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information.

After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told.


On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM.


Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August.


Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play.

can you give me a link which hurricane(s) you are talking about and threatening the watertraffic, in the Golf?
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please can you answer the question?
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Ships appear to be moving further inland. Four tankers anchored South of Lake Ponchetrain.
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Are they about to detonate something down the relief well? Or something?
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Ships appear to be moving further inland. Four tankers anchored South of Lake Ponchetrain.
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I have just checked again and three of the tankers appear to have vanished!!!!!! What the heck is going on. At the time of my post there were four RED squares!!! No doubt about it!!!!!!!!
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www.stormpulse.com


here too:
[link to www.wunderground.com]
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Showing NOTHING near Tampa and Louisiana!
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Ships appear to be moving further inland. Four tankers anchored South of Lake Ponchetrain.

I have just checked again and three of the tankers appear to have vanished!!!!!! What the heck is going on. At the time of my post there were four RED squares!!! No doubt about it!!!!!!!!
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since I wrote about marinetraffic and zero ships I got banned from a site in holland
??????
please note that Dutch chills can live in this site too:))
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[link to www.wired.com]

cross referenced with shipping routes
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At the link the mapping shows that Louisiana has more shipping traffic than Houston, historically. Since the end of August, there has been almost no shipping traffic to the Louisiana port, according to personal watch on marine traffic. Please explain your point in posting.


"Factoring in both the volume of ships and the number of other ports each is connected to, these are the top ports in the world:

1 Panama Canal
2 Suez Canal
3 Shanghai
4 Singapore
5 Antwerp
6 Piraeus
7 Terneuzen
8 Plaquemines
9 Houston "


Read More [link to www.wired.com]
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a very revealing story

Is the window of opportunity in Russian-U.S. relations closing?

It is always interesting to watch a shooting star or to see an e-mail fall from cyberspace. This time, I received an article "Changing Course in Moscow" by Jeffrey Mankoff from the upcoming September/October issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Mankoff is the author of the book "Russian Foreign Policy: The Return of Great Power Politics."

There is clearly a new policy — what Mankoff calls a "dramatic shift" — as President Medvedev is the force behind the efforts to modernize the Russian economy with the help of the United States and the European Union. For former President Vladimir Putin to propose this during the presidency of George W. Bush would have been laughable. The author's argument is fairly obvious, but then he comes across an interesting thought that boils down to two words: two years.

It is relationship between the United States and China that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has referred to as the most important issue in the world, followed by the Greater Middle East (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, etc.), and only then by relations between Russia and the West.

a lot more here

[link to en.rian.ru]
 Quoting: dhlos 1099426

watch a shooting star
fall from space
boils down to two words: two years


Brilliant catch Dhlos :) WOW
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....

No.

Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should:

[link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov]

don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so.............


Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2



Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book.


It is nice to see the open exchanges on this thread. That said, come on -- 1+1=2
If it was only that site that we had as evidence, I would be suspect like you and the other poster flying Netherlands colors with the nice behind he showed me.


But you know as well as I do that hurricanes only form in the GOM and the Atlantic (or cyclones in other regions) due to one main factor or ingredient in most all cases - warm water...

So that link first given to that site had a date other than current, so was giving false, cooler temp info. When the date is adjusted to this month, it yes, looks like it should. It is that simple. (site + lot's of hurricanes or tropical storms)1+1=2

"Generally, a hurricane begins its formation when a storm passes over a body of 80 degree or higher water."
see link to this quote below.


Necessary Conditions for Hurricanes to Form


1. 80 degree, or warmer, water temperature, which is at least 150 feet deep
2. A low pressure area with wind disturbance
3. A lack of stability in the air, which allows clouds to develop
4. A centrifugal force, known as a Coriolis Force, stemming from the earth's rotation
5. Moist air, i.e., a thunderstorm, in the lower portion of the atmosphere
6. Low level winds, with directional changes, known as wind shear



Read more at Suite101: How Do Hurricanes Form?: What Weather Conditions Support the Storms [link to www.suite101.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027



Ocean temps don't change that fast in a couple of days, but the colors in someone's coloring book can change anytime they pick up a different color crayon. No trust. I live around here and know where hurricanes come from. The water in the creek coming by my house won't change drastic temperature in a two-day time period.

Tired of the BS and want truth, even if it hurts. If we can't get some transparency somewhere, there'll be a few of us who will begin to think that everyone in the Southeast US are already dead, no matter what we do.

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