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| rken User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ancient volcanic field reawakens in Saudi Arabia Quote ''In 2009, more than 30,000 earthquakes struck an ancient lava field, opening up a five-mile long crevice. Sensors shoow that magma has risen to roughly a mile below the surface of the Earth, and eruptions remain possible.'' full article here... [link to www.csmonitor.com] Thread: Ancient volcanic field reawakens in Saudi Arabia |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a couple of Q & As from Zeta Talk, May 2010 these stood out in relation to this thread.... What effect, do the Zetas predict, will the "7" event have on the already fragile cover-up? [and from another] Will the end of the year, something that finally convince everyone it is the existence of Planet X and the real threat it poses? Will there be something in addition to achieving a mark "7" that will make people reconsider their views? Nancy has been calling this the threshold year, just as 2009 was, in her mind, the signs-in-the-sky year. Why would signs in the sky not crack the cover-up, and what would cause 2010 to be the year when many cross over into admitting, to themselves and to others, that the government is lying? Up until this point the tightly controlled astronomical community, combined with official pronouncements from NASA, has given the impression that all is normal, despite obvious evidence they are editing SOHO and the placement of the Moon, Sun, and constellations are not where expected. At what point do people start believing their eyes and not believing the experts? The media is fully in hand, avoiding subjects on the ban list and promoting endless distractions while the common man is left to wonder if they are having hallucinations, as the world they see has so many extremes in weather and a trembling Earth - not what the media portrays. We have predicted that this year, 2010, will be the year when the common man switches from looking to the media and experts for their answers, and to intense and anxious discussions on the Internet and in public gathering places like cafes or bars. What is it then, about 2010, that will push the public over this threshold? Earthquakes and plate adjustments are described by geologists as lots of shaking but little positional change in the plates. This fits the explanation that anything cataclysmic that happened to the globe to cause positional stress in the plates in the past happened millions of years ago, and all since then has been just settling down from those cataclysms. But why would major plate adjustments happen now? The trend would be in the opposite direction. Rather than a continuation of history, in adjustments, the plates seem to be lifting out of their beds and heaving in directions not historically in evidence. The media can fill up with experts, spouting tectonic plate theory, but this question will remain unanswered in the mind of the common man. Thus, they will seek answers elsewhere. I just took an airplane flight from the US to Canada, and lo and behold it is substantially warmer here in Canada than in the US. I also flew from East to West which always has headwinds and guess what - almost no headwinds and the flight time was dramatically shorter - first time ever I have experienced that and I have made many many trips going West. I then noticed in the newspaper while on the flight that the weather map for N America showed pockets of hotter air in parts of Canada than almost anywhere in the US. Then when arriving at my destination the radio talked about gusty winds to be expected - which we have been getting practically every couple of days back in the US. And of course, many parts of the US (and elsewhere) have been flip flopping from near record lows to near record highs. I have thought a lot about the Zeta's comment that the weather will blend into one season - can the Zeta's please comment on whether we are now at that point - or whether they are referring to even more extreme and unusual weather related phenomena to come? Certainly, this is not yet a blending of the seasons. It is an atypical Spring, for you. The Earth wobble does several things to the N American continent. As we have mentioned, most of the time the magnetic N Pole is trying to avoid facing the Sun and the approaching Planet X, so in general the northern hemisphere is colder than usual. This will be the case until the pole shift. In addition to this tilt, there is the daily Earth wobble. The magnetic N Pole of Earth is more centered over Siberia than north of Canada as in the past. Thus when the Sun is overhead in the Pacific or India or Europe, the magnetic N Pole is pushed back over the horizon. When the Sun is overhead in the Americas, the N American continent bounces back, as it is under tension to align with the Sun's magnetic alignment too. When doing so, the globe is pulled under warmer air, suddenly and forcefully. The blending of the seasons is still ahead of you, when the globe starts leaning to its side with greater frequency and for longer periods. And for Owen [i]I would think that every amateur astronomer would be screaming bloody murder if say the August sun position did not change. A family member of ours watches the night sky as is his hobby to do and he thinks I am nuts. He of course does not believe px exists or the SOHO captures I have mailed him. He is not aware of sky map being seasonaly off. Humm …[and from another] I don't care what the amateur or professional astronomers say, the sun is setting just left of due north in eastern Iowa and it doesn't even do that at summer solstice! I have planted hydrangeas on the north side of my house this spring and they got sunburn wilt! They have to be watered daily because there is no protection to my north. [and from another] My understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Sun should never rise/set or be north of due east/west when viewing it from the Northern Hemisphere. Likewise, the Sun should never rise/set or be south of due east/west when viewing it from the Southern Hemisphere. An equatorial view should have the Sun straight overhead year round. [and from another] In normal circumstances the sun is usually at its max on June 21 in the West at sunset and directly opposite in the am in the East. Observing the sun each evening thus far, puts it beyond the west or even SW where it is supposed to be and almost due north in the NNW at this time of year! If one was not observing it would not be an anomoly. Using the garden fence we track the sun through out the year, it has from September from West to NNW in May. September the sun 'should' be in the more SW position here in NW Saskatchewan, the sun rising 'should' be in the SE position when rising at that time of year. But it hasn't been that way for almost a year. [and from another] When you find Orion in the night sky, you will notice it is in the general area in which it should be, so most people wouldn't analyze it any further than that, and that's the mistake. Orion, as a human figure with a bow and arrow, should be facing the ground, or the horizon if you wish. Instead, it faces straight up in the sky. A skew, in place, of no less than 90 degrees. Orion should never appear as such. If that isn't enough proof, take the constellation just to the bottom left of Orion, which is Canis Major. Canis Major is easy to find because it contains the star Sirius, which is the brightest star in the night sky. If you take the star Sirius, and draw a line to the star just to the right, which is the last star within Canis Major, furthest to the right. That line should then go into the ground/horizon, but instead goes straight up into the sky. Again, a skew in place of 90 degrees or more. What does the tale about the Emperor's New Clothes teach? That societal pressure to see what others are seeing, and to view what we see through the same colored glasses, is intense. If everyone in a group is, apparently, not seeing what you are seeing, then you doubt your eyes. The public is told by a phalanx of heavyweights that all is normal. The weatherman has long been constrained to stop talking about all the records that are being broken, and forbidden from acting shocked. Anyone who could not comply found themselves with a different job. Astronomers, who began being assassinated starting with the Naval Observatory's Harrington, are required to sign a national security oath and if not, get visits from ominous men in black suits warning them to keep in line. In a close knit profession word gets around when accidents happen, especially after the victim had been struggling with the constraints of the cover-up. Amateurs find them selves puzzled, but because the anomalies they are viewing are not being admitted by the experts, the astronomers, they fall silent. If they raise a flag and insist the professionals address the discrepancies, they find themselves mocked and ridiculed. Certainly, taking the issue to the media gains them nothing. Thus we are left with the Emperor's New Clothes effect. Only those with eyes open, talking on the Internet and among themselves, will change this. But for those too fearful of going against officials, denial is more comfortable even when the facts are staring them in the face. [link to www.zetatalk.com] |
| rken User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Development of Tiny Thorium Reactors Could Wean the World Off Oil In Just Five Years Quote [link to www.popsci.com] One ton of thorium can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of coal, according to the former director of CERN. via Telegraph An abundant metal with vast energy potential could quickly wean the world off oil, if only Western political leaders would muster the will to do it. |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And 1 more : Is the new sinkhole that opened up on Interstate 24 in northeast Tennessee (smack dab in the middle of the New Madrid Seismic Zone) a sign that the dreaded mega-quake is close at hand? Or just another example of the "stretch zone"? [link to www.youtube.com] [and from another] What would the Zeta say about the number of sinkholes that have happened recently, including the one in Quebec that killed four members of a family and the more recent one in Detroit, Michigan? [link to www.***] news.com/world/article/quebec-family-missing-after-sinkhole-swallows-house/19473267 Where sinkholes are routinely blamed on recent heavy rains, causing a washout, there is more afoot. Run a line from San Diego, the center of the bow formed by the N American continent lately, and you will arrive at Tennessee. The Utah mine disaster just east of the Salt Flats was another example of that same bow stress, as it was also on that line. If a bow is pulled hard enough, it will break, but the break will be along weak points in the wood. The weak point in the N American continent is the New Madrid fault line and associated fault lines, which will slip, and slipslide sideways as we have repeatedly explained, with land to the west of the Mississippi moving SW and land to the east of the Mississippi moving NE. What does bow stress do to rock and ground in its path? Take a branch and bend it to the point where parts of the branch start snapping. The compression in the center causes branches to snap outward, relieving that pressure. Rock layers are no different. When compresses they will shatter away from the compression point. Ground nearby gets pushed around, as it is not as solid as rock, and in these matters the hand of Mother Nature does not come round and smooth and distribute the ground. Pockets or voids remain. Landslides that occur on land over clay layers have long been known to be related to water flow along the top of the clay layers, which puts the ground above on a type of slippery slide. Enough rain, enough of an angle of descent, and voom one has a land slide. California is famous for these slides, as in California they build on hillsides in the expensive California real estate market. But the Montreal slide is scarsely a steep incline, nor have then been in a constant deluge. Thus, this is a huge section of land to be moving without warning or any expectations of a sinkhole developing. Of course, the Seaway is pulling apart, and this is not so much noticed where there is solid rock on either side of the Seaway as in places nearby where the ground is put under just as much stress. Take a piece of fabric and pull in opposite directions on either side. The fabric will start to give, thread by thread, at first, and most often those threads are not at the point where the fabric will eventually rip in two, but at weak points in the stretch zone. Can we give comfort to those living along the Seaway that the worst is over? Hardly, it has hardly begun. [link to www.zetatalk.com] *** replace with a o l |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Rken, Have you been skippin' on reading the posts?? We talked thorium a couple of weeks back and other post today.... C'mon now if you cheat on the reads no t-shirt for you.....lol BTW did you find out anymore from your wifes info??? |
| Rken User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** Quote BEIJING (AFP) - A computer virus dubbed the world's "first cyber superweapon" by experts and which may have been designed to attack Iran's nuclear facilities has found a new target -- China. The Stuxnet computer worm has wreaked havoc in China, infecting millions of computers around the country, state media reported this week. Stuxnet is feared by experts around the globe as it can break into computers that control machinery at the heart of industry, allowing an attacker to assume control of critical systems like pumps, motors, alarms and valves. It could, technically, make factory boilers explode, destroy gas pipelines or even cause a nuclear plant to malfunction. Thread: *** BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK last post from me tonight..... this is also from a friend at f/book, seeing we discussed LHC today...here goes ReportApollyon, The bottomless pit and the Large Hadron collider & The Bible.by Robert DeBovis on Thursday, 30 September 2010 at 23:06 The collective consciousness of the human race seems to be sensing the end of all things. Ancient prophecy is taken seriously by many to justify that “feeling” of the approaching end to try and make sense of that feeling. People more so today than ever are also having a kind of lemming mentality where more than ever we destroy ourselves with our various addictions, wars and other assorted destructive behaviours too numerous to mention here. So does the end of all things approach? I have studied ancient prophecy for a long time, and with all that I have researched, the biblical prophecies seem to give a more precise overview of the current time we live in right down to the very character of the people living in these times; 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. That is indeed the state of the human race at this time. During the course of my research I have found another interesting connection with which I want to bring to your attention. That is the connection with Abaddon and the bottomless pit and a possible otherwise unseen connection with the Large Hadron Collider. I know this has been mentioned many times on many forums, and has been discussed in depth, but I decided to dig a little deeper to see what other connections I could find. What I found kind of startled me. I found that the town that the LHC complex is situated-Saint Genis Pouilly-was in Roman times called Apolliacum, the town and a temple being dedicated to Apollyon. APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning "Destroyer," given in Revelation 9:11 for "the angel of the bottomless pit" (in Hebrew called Abaddon), also identified as the king of the demonic "locusts" described in Revelation 9:3-10...In one manuscript, instead of Apollyon the text reads "Apollo," the Greek god of death and pestilence as well as of the sun, music, poetry, crops and herds, and medicine. Apollyon is no doubt the correct reading. But the name Apollo (Gk Apollon) was often linked in ancient Greek writings with the verb apollymi or apollyo, "destroy." From this time of Grotius, "Apollyon" has often been taken here to be a play on the name Apollo. The locust was an emblem of this god, who poisoned his victims, and the name "Apollyon" may be used allusively in Revelation to attack the pagan god and so indirectly the Roman emperor Domitian, who liked to be regarded as Apollo incarnate. (Anchor Bible Dictionary) The text in Revelation 9 reads; 1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. So is it coincidence that the LHC was located in the very place where a temple/town dedicated to the king of the bottomless pit or is it by design? In fact, if you look at the LHC from the air it resembles a lock, it also resembles masonic symbology of the pyramid and the all seeing eye pointing towards the town that was dedicated to to the destroyer spoken of in Revelation. So is it the lock that the “star from heaven” is going to open? That star of course being Lucifer who fell from heaven corrupting mankind, our science to achieve his aim of destroying the apple of Gods eye-us. As bottomless pits go, I cannot think of anything more bottomless than a black hole. A singularity that is infinitely dense yet infinitely small where the laws of physics breakdown. The LHC will produce micro black holes that supposedly evaporate as quickly as they are formed. They also use outdated and debunked physics to justify that fact using Stephen Hawking's now debunked Hawking's radiation to prove their point. However scientists are merely flawed humans also and make many mistakes Nostradamus even mentions something happening; Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you, Saturn will be converted from gold to iron, Raypoz will exterminate all who oppose him,(?) Before the coming the sky will show signs The RAYPOZ being positive rays maybe? So is the LHC the key to unlocking the so called God particle? Or is the key to unlocking the door to the bottomless pit? I guess we will see in time. What this all means is....? They knew that the tomb of Apollo Was there. They Choose to build on it. They knew it was the ancient site of -The Bottomless Abyss. The Powers that Be. Try to Follow history and the bible. , they Make corrections when needed! It was destiny for the collider to be built..and on the spot of so called apollyon. Things happen for a reason! ones who see things how they really are, Illuminatti. Last Edited by Account Deleted by User on 09/10/2011 08:55 PM |
| option8 User ID: 1115212 09/30/2010 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Development of Tiny Thorium Reactors Could Wean the World Off Oil In Just Five Years Quoting: rken 1115157Quote [link to www.popsci.com] One ton of thorium can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of coal, according to the former director of CERN. via Telegraph An abundant metal with vast energy potential could quickly wean the world off oil, if only Western political leaders would muster the will to do it. hi rkn. as a young bloke i got quite excited when i found out about thoriums potential. I soon came down to earth when i found out that back in the early post ww2 era when nuke power was being developed, thorium vs uranium reactors WERE debated. but since the massive cost of research,design and development only one fuel source was developed. This fuel had the value adding feature that made weapons grade plutonium , which back then was in short supply. I dont think anyone has ironed out all the problems they have with getting a thorium reactor up as yet but there may be a pilot plant somewhere by now. Id love to know... anyone??? |
| Krispy71 User ID: 962920 09/30/2010 09:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just found this in dutch news, I will look for the same story in english .. but some things in that text realy cauth my attention : Bewoonbare planeet ontdekt? [link to nieuws.nl.msn.com] - Vandaag is er een planeet ontdekt die bewoonbaar zou kunnen zijn. Bestaat er een tweede aarde? - Eén van de onderzoekers zegt in ieder geval dat de kans op leven op Gliese 581g '100 procent' is. - Gliese 581g is vooral opvallend omdat hij duidelijk in de 'Goldilocks-zone' valt: niet te dicht bij de ster, niet te ver; niet te warm, niet te koud, maar precies goed. - Statistisch gezien zouden we overigens in mei 2011 een nieuwe aarde moeten ontdekken. Translation : Habitable planet discovered ? - Today there is a planet discovered that could be habitable. Is there a second Earth? - One of the researchers says that in any case the probability of life on Gliese 581g is '100 percent'. - Gliese 581g is particularly noteworthy because it is clearly in the 'Goldilocks zone' : not too close to the star, not too far, not too hot, not too cold but just right. - Statistically, we would, moreover, about to discover a new earth in May 2011. An english source Is this the new Earth? Astronomers discover planet just 20 light years away with similar atmosphere and gravity which has '100% chance of life' - and may contain water (with images and illustrations and a VID) [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] 'If these are rare, we shouldn't have found one so quickly and so nearby,' Dr Steven Vogt who led the study at the University of California, Santa Cruz. 'The number of systems with potentially habitable planets is probably on the order of 10 or 20 per cent, and when you multiply that by the hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way, that's a large number. There could be tens of billions of these systems in our galaxy.' He told Discovery News: 'Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say that the chances for life on this planet are 100 percent. I have almost no doubt about it'. It takes just 37 days to orbit its sun which means its seasons last for just a few days. One side of the planet always faces its star and basks in perpetual daylight, while the other is in perpetual darkness. (>> just like our moon ... and there seeeeems to be life at the dark-cold side of the moon too ...) The most suitable place for life or future human colonists would be in the 'grey' zone - the band between darkness and light that circles the planet. (>> okay GREY-zone doesnt seem to sound so comfortable ... it links to The Grey's in my mind ...) 'Any emerging life forms would have a wide range of stable climates to choose from and to evolve around, depending on their longitude,' said Dr Vogt who reports the find in the Astrophysical Journal. If Gliese 581g has a rocky composition similar to the Earth's, its diameter would be about 1.2 to 1.4 times that of the Earth. It's gravity is likely to be similar - allowing a human astronaut to walk on the surface upright without difficulty. 'This planet doesn't have days and nights. Wherever you are on this planet, the sun is in the same position all the time. You have very stable zones where the ecosystem stays the same temperature... basically forever,' Vogt said. ![]() Somehow this discovery adds up in the line of the testimonies from those pilots a few days ago !!! Total disclosure seems only a footstep away ... Last Edited by Krispy71 on 09/30/2010 09:57 AM |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** Quoting: Rken 1115157Quote BEIJING (AFP) - A computer virus dubbed the world's "first cyber superweapon" by experts and which may have been designed to attack Iran's nuclear facilities has found a new target -- China. The Stuxnet computer worm has wreaked havoc in China, infecting millions of computers around the country, state media reported this week. Stuxnet is feared by experts around the globe as it can break into computers that control machinery at the heart of industry, allowing an attacker to assume control of critical systems like pumps, motors, alarms and valves. It could, technically, make factory boilers explode, destroy gas pipelines or even cause a nuclear plant to malfunction. Thread: *** BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** Rken, is this what they were talking about years ago when they said all of the computers/electronics made in China had control chips put in them when manufactured, and could be launched at any time in the future??? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Rken, Have you been skippin' on reading the posts?? Quoting: bevvyWe talked thorium a couple of weeks back and other post today.... C'mon now if you cheat on the reads no t-shirt for you.....lol BTW did you find out anymore from your wifes info??? Nope haven't been. But may have missed it. In the process of moving over the last 3 weeks. So life has been a little heck tick. I go to sleep just about the time things get rolling on this thread. Nothing new from wifey. I do remember some posts on thorium, but nothing conclusive about its future. hmmmmmm |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Development of Tiny Thorium Reactors Could Wean the World Off Oil In Just Five Years Quoting: option8 1115212Quote [link to www.popsci.com] One ton of thorium can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of coal, according to the former director of CERN. via Telegraph An abundant metal with vast energy potential could quickly wean the world off oil, if only Western political leaders would muster the will to do it. hi rkn. as a young bloke i got quite excited when i found out about thoriums potential. I soon came down to earth when i found out that back in the early post ww2 era when nuke power was being developed, thorium vs uranium reactors WERE debated. but since the massive cost of research,design and development only one fuel source was developed. This fuel had the value adding feature that made weapons grade plutonium , which back then was in short supply. I dont think anyone has ironed out all the problems they have with getting a thorium reactor up as yet but there may be a pilot plant somewhere by now. Id love to know... anyone??? Because thorium reactorss present no proliferation risk, and because they solve the safety problems associated with earlier reactors, they will be able to use reasonable rather than obsessive standards for security and reliability. If we can reach the $145-in-1971-dollars/kW milestone experienced by Commonwealth Edison in 1971, we can decrease costs for a 1-gigawatt plant to at most $780 million, rather than the $1,100 million to build such a plant today. In fact, you might be able to go as low as $220 million or below, if 80% of reactor costs truly are attributable to expensive anti-meltdown measures. A thorium reactor does not, in fact, need a containment wall. Putting the reactor vessel in a standard industrial building is sufficient. [link to www.thorium.tv] found this edit to say, prolly worse than spent uranium to the health, only guessing though, always a down side to these things... Last Edited by bevvy on 09/30/2010 10:10 AM |
| Pondering Mightily User ID: 994296 09/30/2010 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).” Quoting: GlassPearls[link to community.controlglobal.com] Hmmmm.... Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water. Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg. From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now. Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in 2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly) DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD. It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT! The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our "gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/ explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS control valves, but which spreads "through the ether". How would you FIND it? How would you ISOLATE it? How would you STOP it? |
| bevvy User ID: 1115148 09/30/2010 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Rken, Have you been skippin' on reading the posts?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115157We talked thorium a couple of weeks back and other post today.... C'mon now if you cheat on the reads no t-shirt for you.....lol BTW did you find out anymore from your wifes info??? Nope haven't been. But may have missed it. In the process of moving over the last 3 weeks. So life has been a little heck tick. I go to sleep just about the time things get rolling on this thread. Nothing new from wifey. I do remember some posts on thorium, but nothing conclusive about its future. hmmmmmm OK you are back on the t-shirt list...he he he goodnight, my bed time so everyone will be on soon c u x |
| Hans The Magnificent User ID: 1100190 09/30/2010 10:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bevvy, b4 you go, check your PMs. Hans Your unban request was denied. About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still. Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol. |
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| dhlos User ID: 1115149 09/30/2010 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first well here is mine: this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations. "it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault" will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level) letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder? dhlos |
| option8 User ID: 1115212 09/30/2010 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Development of Tiny Thorium Reactors Could Wean the World Off Oil In Just Five Years Quoting: bevvyQuote [link to www.popsci.com] One ton of thorium can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of coal, according to the former director of CERN. via Telegraph An abundant metal with vast energy potential could quickly wean the world off oil, if only Western political leaders would muster the will to do it. hi rkn. as a young bloke i got quite excited when i found out about thoriums potential. I soon came down to earth when i found out that back in the early post ww2 era when nuke power was being developed, thorium vs uranium reactors WERE debated. but since the massive cost of research,design and development only one fuel source was developed. This fuel had the value adding feature that made weapons grade plutonium , which back then was in short supply. I dont think anyone has ironed out all the problems they have with getting a thorium reactor up as yet but there may be a pilot plant somewhere by now. Id love to know... anyone??? Because thorium reactorss present no proliferation risk, and because they solve the safety problems associated with earlier reactors, they will be able to use reasonable rather than obsessive standards for security and reliability. If we can reach the $145-in-1971-dollars/kW milestone experienced by Commonwealth Edison in 1971, we can decrease costs for a 1-gigawatt plant to at most $780 million, rather than the $1,100 million to build such a plant today. In fact, you might be able to go as low as $220 million or below, if 80% of reactor costs truly are attributable to expensive anti-meltdown measures. A thorium reactor does not, in fact, need a containment wall. Putting the reactor vessel in a standard industrial building is sufficient. [link to www.thorium.tv] found this edit to say, prolly worse than spent uranium to the health, only guessing though, always a down side to these things... thanks bevvy ,obviously plenty of good clean air blowin across port philip bay ,keepin those brain cell fireing. I think spent thorium has a hugely shorter half life than uranium which was the selling point back then. i read this back before internet so cant give a link,soz. |
| Krispy71 User ID: 962920 09/30/2010 10:25 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a couple of Q & As from Zeta Talk, May 2010 Quoting: bevvythese stood out in relation to this thread.... What effect, do the Zetas predict, will the "7" event have on the already fragile cover-up? [and from another] Will the end of the year, something that finally convince everyone it is the existence of Planet X and the real threat it poses? Will there be something in addition to achieving a mark "7" that will make people reconsider their views? Nancy has been calling this the threshold year, just as 2009 was, in her mind, the signs-in-the-sky year. Why would signs in the sky not crack the cover-up, and what would cause 2010 to be the year when many cross over into admitting, to themselves and to others, that the government is lying? Up until this point the tightly controlled astronomical community, combined with official pronouncements from NASA, has given the impression that all is normal, despite obvious evidence they are editing SOHO and the placement of the Moon, Sun, and constellations are not where expected. At what point do people start believing their eyes and not believing the experts? The media is fully in hand, avoiding subjects on the ban list and promoting endless distractions while the common man is left to wonder if they are having hallucinations, as the world they see has so many extremes in weather and a trembling Earth - not what the media portrays. We have predicted that this year, 2010, will be the year when the common man switches from looking to the media and experts for their answers, and to intense and anxious discussions on the Internet and in public gathering places like cafes or bars. What is it then, about 2010, that will push the public over this threshold? Earthquakes and plate adjustments are described by geologists as lots of shaking but little positional change in the plates. This fits the explanation that anything cataclysmic that happened to the globe to cause positional stress in the plates in the past happened millions of years ago, and all since then has been just settling down from those cataclysms. But why would major plate adjustments happen now? The trend would be in the opposite direction. Rather than a continuation of history, in adjustments, the plates seem to be lifting out of their beds and heaving in directions not historically in evidence. The media can fill up with experts, spouting tectonic plate theory, but this question will remain unanswered in the mind of the common man. Thus, they will seek answers elsewhere. I just took an airplane flight from the US to Canada, and lo and behold it is substantially warmer here in Canada than in the US. I also flew from East to West which always has headwinds and guess what - almost no headwinds and the flight time was dramatically shorter - first time ever I have experienced that and I have made many many trips going West. I then noticed in the newspaper while on the flight that the weather map for N America showed pockets of hotter air in parts of Canada than almost anywhere in the US. Then when arriving at my destination the radio talked about gusty winds to be expected - which we have been getting practically every couple of days back in the US. And of course, many parts of the US (and elsewhere) have been flip flopping from near record lows to near record highs. I have thought a lot about the Zeta's comment that the weather will blend into one season - can the Zeta's please comment on whether we are now at that point - or whether they are referring to even more extreme and unusual weather related phenomena to come? Certainly, this is not yet a blending of the seasons. It is an atypical Spring, for you. The Earth wobble does several things to the N American continent. As we have mentioned, most of the time the magnetic N Pole is trying to avoid facing the Sun and the approaching Planet X, so in general the northern hemisphere is colder than usual. This will be the case until the pole shift. In addition to this tilt, there is the daily Earth wobble. The magnetic N Pole of Earth is more centered over Siberia than north of Canada as in the past. Thus when the Sun is overhead in the Pacific or India or Europe, the magnetic N Pole is pushed back over the horizon. When the Sun is overhead in the Americas, the N American continent bounces back, as it is under tension to align with the Sun's magnetic alignment too. When doing so, the globe is pulled under warmer air, suddenly and forcefully. The blending of the seasons is still ahead of you, when the globe starts leaning to its side with greater frequency and for longer periods. And for Owen [i]I would think that every amateur astronomer would be screaming bloody murder if say the August sun position did not change. A family member of ours watches the night sky as is his hobby to do and he thinks I am nuts. He of course does not believe px exists or the SOHO captures I have mailed him. He is not aware of sky map being seasonaly off. Humm …[and from another] I don't care what the amateur or professional astronomers say, the sun is setting just left of due north in eastern Iowa and it doesn't even do that at summer solstice! I have planted hydrangeas on the north side of my house this spring and they got sunburn wilt! They have to be watered daily because there is no protection to my north. [and from another] My understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Sun should never rise/set or be north of due east/west when viewing it from the Northern Hemisphere. Likewise, the Sun should never rise/set or be south of due east/west when viewing it from the Southern Hemisphere. An equatorial view should have the Sun straight overhead year round. [and from another] In normal circumstances the sun is usually at its max on June 21 in the West at sunset and directly opposite in the am in the East. Observing the sun each evening thus far, puts it beyond the west or even SW where it is supposed to be and almost due north in the NNW at this time of year! If one was not observing it would not be an anomoly. Using the garden fence we track the sun through out the year, it has from September from West to NNW in May. September the sun 'should' be in the more SW position here in NW Saskatchewan, the sun rising 'should' be in the SE position when rising at that time of year. But it hasn't been that way for almost a year. [and from another] When you find Orion in the night sky, you will notice it is in the general area in which it should be, so most people wouldn't analyze it any further than that, and that's the mistake. Orion, as a human figure with a bow and arrow, should be facing the ground, or the horizon if you wish. Instead, it faces straight up in the sky. A skew, in place, of no less than 90 degrees. Orion should never appear as such. If that isn't enough proof, take the constellation just to the bottom left of Orion, which is Canis Major. Canis Major is easy to find because it contains the star Sirius, which is the brightest star in the night sky. If you take the star Sirius, and draw a line to the star just to the right, which is the last star within Canis Major, furthest to the right. That line should then go into the ground/horizon, but instead goes straight up into the sky. Again, a skew in place of 90 degrees or more. What does the tale about the Emperor's New Clothes teach? That societal pressure to see what others are seeing, and to view what we see through the same colored glasses, is intense. If everyone in a group is, apparently, not seeing what you are seeing, then you doubt your eyes. The public is told by a phalanx of heavyweights that all is normal. The weatherman has long been constrained to stop talking about all the records that are being broken, and forbidden from acting shocked. Anyone who could not comply found themselves with a different job. Astronomers, who began being assassinated starting with the Naval Observatory's Harrington, are required to sign a national security oath and if not, get visits from ominous men in black suits warning them to keep in line. In a close knit profession word gets around when accidents happen, especially after the victim had been struggling with the constraints of the cover-up. Amateurs find them selves puzzled, but because the anomalies they are viewing are not being admitted by the experts, the astronomers, they fall silent. If they raise a flag and insist the professionals address the discrepancies, they find themselves mocked and ridiculed. Certainly, taking the issue to the media gains them nothing. Thus we are left with the Emperor's New Clothes effect. Only those with eyes open, talking on the Internet and among themselves, will change this. But for those too fearful of going against officials, denial is more comfortable even when the facts are staring them in the face. [link to www.zetatalk.com] I quoted the whole thing coz there are to many important frases in it. Tnx Bevvy ! Very interesting !!! Many people talked about the changements of the suns'and star's positions ... but we were never believed. (I did it too last year on a dutch forum > ridicul to those who told what they saw ...) The earth is changing position and TPTB try to do everything to mask it or hide it ! This makes me think : If our position/wobble has changed ... could our projectory also have been changed slightly ? Does that make all charts and simulation programs of approaching meteorites andastroids not more accurate ? Is that also a reason why they stoped providing that data ? ... coz people could connect dots if things would not come and pass like "they should do" ... hmmmmzzz... Tnx again ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1114716 09/30/2010 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fellow Bezerkers, Quoting: breezyI wish to share a quick story of my family vacation, the four of us just got back from visiting my mother in South Carolina. She lives outside of Columbia so not on the shore. Anyhow everything was fine the first couple of days and then they had a line of storms move up from the Gulf region... Nothing anecdotal about having rashes and swollen eyes..I am so afraid for everyone living in the Gulf States...and the other states whose rain comes from that area...eventually, we will ALL be affected by what's gone on there..one way or another, or infected...what a shame...do take care...and seek medical help if what you have, doesn't go away soon.. Just a day 3 update. My eyes are noticeably less swollen yet still really red (bags above and below not the whites of my eyes) but the rashes we got under our armpits are getting worse. There is a slight pain associated with them as well, hard to tell if it is because of rash itself or location. Also, my wifes rash on her side has not gotten any better and almost looks like pimples only much not as uniform and with white tips intermediately appearing. We are going to call our doctor and see what she says. Something interesting that I neglected to mention yesterday is the armpit rashes appear to 'be connected' to lymph nodes for lack of better phrasing. Both of us have very tender breast areas and it seems to be a direct line to the rash. Thank you for the words of concern and will continue to update unless you guys think it should go someone else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Development of Tiny Thorium Reactors Could Wean the World Off Oil In Just Five Years Quoting: bevvyQuote [link to www.popsci.com] One ton of thorium can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of coal, according to the former director of CERN. via Telegraph An abundant metal with vast energy potential could quickly wean the world off oil, if only Western political leaders would muster the will to do it. hi rkn. as a young bloke i got quite excited when i found out about thoriums potential. I soon came down to earth when i found out that back in the early post ww2 era when nuke power was being developed, thorium vs uranium reactors WERE debated. but since the massive cost of research,design and development only one fuel source was developed. This fuel had the value adding feature that made weapons grade plutonium , which back then was in short supply. I dont think anyone has ironed out all the problems they have with getting a thorium reactor up as yet but there may be a pilot plant somewhere by now. Id love to know... anyone??? Because thorium reactorss present no proliferation risk, and because they solve the safety problems associated with earlier reactors, they will be able to use reasonable rather than obsessive standards for security and reliability. If we can reach the $145-in-1971-dollars/kW milestone experienced by Commonwealth Edison in 1971, we can decrease costs for a 1-gigawatt plant to at most $780 million, rather than the $1,100 million to build such a plant today. In fact, you might be able to go as low as $220 million or below, if 80% of reactor costs truly are attributable to expensive anti-meltdown measures. A thorium reactor does not, in fact, need a containment wall. Putting the reactor vessel in a standard industrial building is sufficient. [link to www.thorium.tv] found this edit to say, prolly worse than spent uranium to the health, only guessing though, always a down side to these things... Wasn't there some discussion early on, on this thread about micro organism that collect and deposit thorium from sea water along with gold. Just thought it was interesting and didn't see the linkage being made. |
| rken User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).” Quoting: Pondering Mightily[link to community.controlglobal.com] Hmmmm.... Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water. Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg. From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now. Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in 2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly) DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD. It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT! The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our "gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/ explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS control valves, but which spreads "through the ether". How would you FIND it? How would you ISOLATE it? How would you STOP it? What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks. |
| option8 User ID: 1115212 09/30/2010 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fellow Bezerkers, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1114716I wish to share a quick story of my family vacation, the four of us just got back from visiting my mother in South Carolina. She lives outside of Columbia so not on the shore. Anyhow everything was fine the first couple of days and then they had a line of storms move up from the Gulf region... Nothing anecdotal about having rashes and swollen eyes..I am so afraid for everyone living in the Gulf States...and the other states whose rain comes from that area...eventually, we will ALL be affected by what's gone on there..one way or another, or infected...what a shame...do take care...and seek medical help if what you have, doesn't go away soon.. Just a day 3 update. My eyes are noticeably less swollen yet still really red (bags above and below not the whites of my eyes) but the rashes we got under our armpits are getting worse. There is a slight pain associated with them as well, hard to tell if it is because of rash itself or location. Also, my wifes rash on her side has not gotten any better and almost looks like pimples only much not as uniform and with white tips intermediately appearing. We are going to call our doctor and see what she says. Something interesting that I neglected to mention yesterday is the armpit rashes appear to 'be connected' to lymph nodes for lack of better phrasing. Both of us have very tender breast areas and it seems to be a direct line to the rash. Thank you for the words of concern and will continue to update unless you guys think it should go someone else. I , FOR one , would like you to update here. You are the only first hand account we have of possible "gulf syndrome".Plus im concerned for you guys too. |
| Pondering Mightily User ID: 994296 09/30/2010 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** Quoting: Rken 1115157Quote BEIJING (AFP) - A computer virus dubbed the world's "first cyber superweapon" by experts and which may have been designed to attack Iran's nuclear facilities has found a new target -- China. The Stuxnet computer worm has wreaked havoc in China, infecting millions of computers around the country, state media reported this week. Stuxnet is feared by experts around the globe as it can break into computers that control machinery at the heart of industry, allowing an attacker to assume control of critical systems like pumps, motors, alarms and valves. It could, technically, make factory boilers explode, destroy gas pipelines or even cause a nuclear plant to malfunction. Thread: *** BREAKING STUXNET VIRUS HAS TAKEN OVER MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS IN CHINA 1000'S OF FACTORIES AFFECTED *** The way this thing is spreading is giving credence to the "quantum" explanation. RUSSIAN FEDERATION OP said the goal of the attack was china. He said it was just moving in a roundabout way for distraction. Like a chess game. |
| Rken User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fellow Bezerkers, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1114716I wish to share a quick story of my family vacation, the four of us just got back from visiting my mother in South Carolina. She lives outside of Columbia so not on the shore. Anyhow everything was fine the first couple of days and then they had a line of storms move up from the Gulf region... Nothing anecdotal about having rashes and swollen eyes..I am so afraid for everyone living in the Gulf States...and the other states whose rain comes from that area...eventually, we will ALL be affected by what's gone on there..one way or another, or infected...what a shame...do take care...and seek medical help if what you have, doesn't go away soon.. Just a day 3 update. My eyes are noticeably less swollen yet still really red (bags above and below not the whites of my eyes) but the rashes we got under our armpits are getting worse. There is a slight pain associated with them as well, hard to tell if it is because of rash itself or location. Also, my wifes rash on her side has not gotten any better and almost looks like pimples only much not as uniform and with white tips intermediately appearing. We are going to call our doctor and see what she says. Something interesting that I neglected to mention yesterday is the armpit rashes appear to 'be connected' to lymph nodes for lack of better phrasing. Both of us have very tender breast areas and it seems to be a direct line to the rash. Thank you for the words of concern and will continue to update unless you guys think it should go someone else. Recommend you get some MMS=sodium chlorite. when mixed with citric acid it creates chlorine dioxide. This is used in hospitals to kill MRSA on hospitol surfaces. It was also used to decontaminate after the anthrax attacks. It kills staff, MRSA and flesh eating bacteria on contact. I have used it internally for a variety of ailments and had no side effects. Acid reflux, arthristic in hips, Dengue Fever, etc. Have one friend that was skin and bones unable to work due to aids. He has now put on weight and is back to work. Great stuff to have around and its cheap. Can be used externally as a wash. It is used in many tooth care products as it eliminates bio-film instantly. I have researched it extensively and have hundreds of links in regards its safety etc. rken |
| Pondering Mightily User ID: 994296 09/30/2010 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).” Quoting: rken 1115157[link to community.controlglobal.com] Hmmmm.... Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water. Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg. From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now. Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in 2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly) DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD. It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT! The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our "gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/ explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS control valves, but which spreads "through the ether". How would you FIND it? How would you ISOLATE it? How would you STOP it? What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks. Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is a lie? Thanks. EDIT for ? mark. Last Edited by Pondering Mightily on 09/30/2010 10:45 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1114716 09/30/2010 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the recommendations, against my better judgment we are going to the doctor @12 EST today. My wife is extremely scared and I am shocked that our dermatologist (who normally requires weeks for an appt, got us in in 1.5 hours). I will update around 3 when we get back. |
| tiomio User ID: 1042593 09/30/2010 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent Quoting: dhlos 1115149i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first well here is mine: this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations. "it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault" will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level) letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder? dhlos In my opinion, after so much reading my brain hurts, I agree with you 100% dhlos. Far too much diversion from the real problem and laying responsibility at bp's door. Tio |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1115157 09/30/2010 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).” Quoting: Pondering Mightily[link to community.controlglobal.com] Hmmmm.... Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water. Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg. From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now. Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in 2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly) DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD. It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT! The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our "gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/ explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS control valves, but which spreads "through the ether". How would you FIND it? How would you ISOLATE it? How would you STOP it? What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks. Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is a lie? Thanks. EDIT for ? mark. see above bolded. |
| sumdumguy User ID: 1113861 09/30/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know. Quoting: childoflight[link to www.defenders.org] "Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-) This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand.... If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped.... I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad. BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things.... That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there... I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months. It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either. |