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Thanks for the recommendations, against my better judgment we are going to the doctor @12 EST today. My wife is extremely scared and I am shocked that our dermatologist (who normally requires weeks for an appt, got us in in 1.5 hours). I will update around 3 when we get back.
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i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent

i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first

well here is mine:

this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else

it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations.

"it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault"
will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level)

letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale

how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder?

dhlos
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In my opinion, after so much reading my brain hurts, I agree with you 100% dhlos. Far too much diversion from the real problem and laying responsibility at bp's door.
Tio
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Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).”

[link to community.controlglobal.com]

Hmmmm....



Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water.

Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg.

From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now.



Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in

2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly)

DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD.


It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency

it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT!

The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our

"gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/

explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS

control valves, but which spreads "through the ether".



How would you FIND it?


How would you ISOLATE it?


How would you STOP it?

What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks.




Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a

lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is

a lie? Thanks.


EDIT for ? mark.
 Quoting: Pondering Mightily

see above bolded.
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....
 Quoting: childoflight


If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped....

I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad.

BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things....

That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there...

I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months.

It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either.
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i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent

i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first

well here is mine:

this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else

it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations.

"it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault"
will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level)

letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale

how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder?

dhlos


In my opinion, after so much reading my brain hurts, I agree with you 100% dhlos. Far too much diversion from the real problem and laying responsibility at bp's door.
 Quoting: tiomio

I only have one problem with your synopsis. It would seem that this is becoming a global event with reports about infections coming in from around the world. Not saying that BP would not try to use this most opportune event to their advantage. But something like this would have to be proved in court, doubt if just claiming it to be true is going to wash. If you know what I mean.
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped....

I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad.

BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things....

That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there...

I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months.

It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either.
 Quoting: sumdumguy 1113861

Thanks for the info. could you please give more info on who is doing the boarding, what bp was doing in the gulf, link to you thread, and who we are in the middle of. thanks
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a couple of Q & As from Zeta Talk, May 2010
these stood out in relation to this thread....


Of all the people I have been reading over say...the last year. You stood out the most and compel me to take notice, I had a strong feeling that you would “bite” on what I posted yesterday because you have a good “sense of smell” , to not put too fine a point on it. A little behind you was some person named “Breezy”, I also see something in that person as well.
I can see it, the Dutch are not just around and where they are just because of luck, and it was no coincidence why America’s first corporation and still the controlling corporation (I might add) in the US was the DUTCH East India Trading Company. If you can find a bonefide copy of the “Round Robin” charter signed by the charter members, that actually shows the characters and symbols next to people’s names you might find some interesting things there that may shed some light also. Your people have a little more MOJO than just a bunch of big beautiful Vikings who clobbered the French so much that the French King gave them land if they just stopped whipping his butt and taking his women.
I don’t know what ID or poster info shows up on me, if I can remember to do it I will put “sumdumguy” as my poster identification in the future so I can stand behind what I post as it is important. I hate to see so many wonderfully intelligent and astute people chasing Red Herrings, It is great to see so many of these “types” seeking to be brought from darkness to light. Many I see seem like to pace around in the dark almost as if they enjoy it. 
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Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).”

[link to community.controlglobal.com]

Hmmmm....



Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water.

Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg.

From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now.



Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in

2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly)

DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD.


It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency

it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT!

The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our

"gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/

explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS

control valves, but which spreads "through the ether".



How would you FIND it?


How would you ISOLATE it?


How would you STOP it?

What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks.




Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a

lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is

a lie? Thanks.


EDIT for ? mark.

see above bolded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115157




I see your point RKEN. the above bolded is a THEORY. Not a proven

fact. However, with the new evidence that STUXNET is spreading like

wildfire, along with Russian Federation OP's claim that the target is China

(this claim was made when only Iran was affected), and with the new

breakdown of computer systems in China, it is a theory which is

resonating ever more strongly with me. ; )
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Also, RKEN, you may have missed my previous posts in which I addressed

the issue that there is a claim by OP on the "uvb/sixteen days" thread that

this is a QUANTUM virus. IF that were the case, then it's behavior would be

unlike anything we've seen before. That IS how it looks to me. If this thing

keeps going at anywhere near it's present rate, I don't think it would be

possible to even calculate the consequences.
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....
 Quoting: childoflight


look up on You Tube the Asia report about a "listing" oil platform the some "storm" tilted at about a 30 degree angle.

You will see an Helo exfil of the crew of "chinese" workers. Look VERY carefully at who is corralling the crew up to the higest corner. You should also notice big black cables coming from the water at also about a 30 degree angle opposite the list of the rig.

Notice the oddly shapped black smoke seeming to appear and do strange things that smoke doesn't do. Smoke and Mirror is SOOOO appropriate in this case. If you can adjust the screen color, hue, saturation, contrast, noise you will see many VERY interresting players in that drama.
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Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).”

[link to community.controlglobal.com]

Hmmmm....



Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water.

Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg.

From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now.



Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in

2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly)

DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD.


It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency

it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT!

The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our

"gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/

explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS

control valves, but which spreads "through the ether".



How would you FIND it?


How would you ISOLATE it?


How would you STOP it?

What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks.




Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a

lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is

a lie? Thanks.


EDIT for ? mark.

see above bolded.




I see your point RKEN. the above bolded is a THEORY. Not a proven

fact. However, with the new evidence that STUXNET is spreading like

wildfire, along with Russian Federation OP's claim that the target is China

(this claim was made when only Iran was affected), and with the new

breakdown of computer systems in China, it is a theory which is

resonating ever more strongly with me. ; )
 Quoting: Pondering Mightily

Well if your theory is correct tptb would seem to be in some pretty deep shit. And it usually roles down hill.

The thought of human having this kind of technology is truly scary as we don't have a very good track record given this much power. One thing I was thinking was perhaps it was and is time released, allowing it to get deeply inbeded in the world comp systems before becoming apparent. I believe it might also be electrically related. Another words it is infecting comp through there power supply. Could perhaps electrical supply systems be carrying the virus. this would be an avenue of infection that most would not suspect. Puzzling to say the least.
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Fellow Bezerkers,

I wish to share a quick story of my family vacation, the four of us just got back from visiting my mother in South Carolina. She lives outside of Columbia so not on the shore. Anyhow everything was fine the first couple of days and then they had a line of storms move up from the Gulf region...

Nothing anecdotal about having rashes and swollen eyes..I am so afraid for everyone living in the Gulf States...and the other states whose rain comes from that area...eventually, we will ALL be affected by what's gone on there..one way or another, or infected...what a shame...do take care...and seek medical help if what you have, doesn't go away soon..



Just a day 3 update. My eyes are noticeably less swollen yet still really red (bags above and below not the whites of my eyes) but the rashes we got under our armpits are getting worse. There is a slight pain associated with them as well, hard to tell if it is because of rash itself or location. Also, my wifes rash on her side has not gotten any better and almost looks like pimples only much not as uniform and with white tips intermediately appearing. We are going to call our doctor and see what she says. Something interesting that I neglected to mention yesterday is the armpit rashes appear to 'be connected' to lymph nodes for lack of better phrasing. Both of us have very tender breast areas and it seems to be a direct line to the rash. Thank you for the words of concern and will continue to update unless you guys think it should go someone else.
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hf
do what you must to overcome
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Also, RKEN, you may have missed my previous posts in which I addressed

the issue that there is a claim by OP on the "uvb/sixteen days" thread that

this is a QUANTUM virus. IF that were the case, then it's behavior would be

unlike anything we've seen before. That IS how it looks to me. If this thing

keeps going at anywhere near it's present rate, I don't think it would be

possible to even calculate the consequences.
 Quoting: Pondering Mightily


Agree the consequences would be unimaginable. I saw your post here and in the russian thread. Quantum, I understand the basis for this as a possibility, but wasn't aware that anyone really had this type of tech. suprise, suprise if true. If this tech is available it could used on any system includig human systems. Since all points existing anywhere would be vulnerable to attact. I do hope this is not the case. nothing personal.lol
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


look up on You Tube the Asia report about a "listing" oil platform the some "storm" tilted at about a 30 degree angle.

You will see an Helo exfil of the crew of "chinese" workers. Look VERY carefully at who is corralling the crew up to the higest corner. You should also notice big black cables coming from the water at also about a 30 degree angle opposite the list of the rig.

Notice the oddly shapped black smoke seeming to appear and do strange things that smoke doesn't do. Smoke and Mirror is SOOOO appropriate in this case. If you can adjust the screen color, hue, saturation, contrast, noise you will see many VERY interresting players in that drama.
 Quoting: sumdumguy 1113861

Nothing personal. But if you have something to say, say it. I am really sick and tired of people posting innuendos, and not explaining themselves. Like its some big game. Enough bullshit just say it man. If what you say is true or if I need confirmation with my own eyes I can always proceed to the link. Which by the way you didn't give to the U Tube vid. If this is a test to see if I'm worthy enough, by chasing down your leads, I would rather not play. Thanks anyway. I would like to know what you have found out, so if you want to just spit it out, that would be nice. thanks
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


look up on You Tube the Asia report about a "listing" oil platform the some "storm" tilted at about a 30 degree angle.

You will see an Helo exfil of the crew of "chinese" workers. Look VERY carefully at who is corralling the crew up to the higest corner. You should also notice big black cables coming from the water at also about a 30 degree angle opposite the list of the rig.

Notice the oddly shapped black smoke seeming to appear and do strange things that smoke doesn't do. Smoke and Mirror is SOOOO appropriate in this case. If you can adjust the screen color, hue, saturation, contrast, noise you will see many VERY interresting players in that drama.

Nothing personal. But if you have something to say, say it. I am really sick and tired of people posting innuendos, and not explaining themselves. Like its some big game. Enough bullshit just say it man. If what you say is true or if I need confirmation with my own eyes I can always proceed to the link. Which by the way you didn't give to the U Tube vid. If this is a test to see if I'm worthy enough, by chasing down your leads, I would rather not play. Thanks anyway. I would like to know what you have found out, so if you want to just spit it out, that would be nice. thanks
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My kinda poster.

I tried to find the youtube video and failed.

Talk of smoke and mirrors, then the same tactic is used by the accuser.

Now we have nancy lieder appearing too, LMAO.
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped....

I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad.

BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things....

That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there...

I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months.

It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either.
 Quoting: sumdumguy 1113861

so the sea was becoming poison from before the DWH explotion and bp as a front man is trying to fix it?

would it be more simple to explain to people that in truth rather than all this gagging and deceitfulness bull?
In addition to why would they need to kill 11 people to do all this benevolence for mankind in secret?

curious of your info
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Also, RKEN, you may have missed my previous posts in which I addressed

the issue that there is a claim by OP on the "uvb/sixteen days" thread that

this is a QUANTUM virus. IF that were the case, then it's behavior would be

unlike anything we've seen before. That IS how it looks to me. If this thing

keeps going at anywhere near it's present rate, I don't think it would be

possible to even calculate the consequences.

 Quoting: Pondering Mightily

Unfortunately, for IT pros such as myself, we have calculated the consequences. The *potential* here is staggering when these events become common -- not at sea -- but on land.

How many of us live near, or downwind of, industrial production? How many disasters in human history were not from a single failure, but a culmination of many failures within a critical time window?

Some are worried about nukes, EMPs and solar destruction of Western civilization. This 'infrastructure' weapon has the same *potential*.

I stress the word potential, because that is what it is. However, today's news about China would confirm worst-case fears.

Sometimes I wish I did not know what I know and was one of the sheep. ;-) :-(
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i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent

i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first

well here is mine:

this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else

it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations.

"it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault"
will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level)

letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale

how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder?

dhlos


In my opinion, after so much reading my brain hurts, I agree with you 100% dhlos. Far too much diversion from the real problem and laying responsibility at bp's door.

I only have one problem with your synopsis. It would seem that this is becoming a global event with reports about infections coming in from around the world. Not saying that BP would not try to use this most opportune event to their advantage. But something like this would have to be proved in court, doubt if just claiming it to be true is going to wash. If you know what I mean.
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you said it
i said the same
msm is reporting such (or am i mistaken?) soon to be derived as facts by a court of law
so what the problem with my hypothesis?
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Can we revisit the title page.

Has anyone got ANY information about the original talking point?

Did a sub get attacked by anyone to start with? If not, then the rest of the thread would be mute. I'm sure the corexit and other shit they spray and administer has some wicked side effects Etc, however, that doesn't relate to the morphing organism that was mentioned, talking of which, why would they attack the French sub knowing that they had this organism aboard? Surely the risk of releasing the buggers would outweigh the benefits on retrieving the samples.

Op will probably return with stories of how the human race was saved in the nick of time by him and his mates. And everyone will be enthralled, cheering, congratulating each other on job well done. Then looking for their next fix of doom on another thread.
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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.
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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.
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Storm related?
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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.

Storm related?
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Won't be that simple, probably targeted by the quantum virus because he is too close to the truth....
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i was recently told by a friend that if you sit back and relax things become apparent

i have not partaken in the conversation because i wanted to understand some theories first

well here is mine:

this whole story is not about LHC or iran or nukes or anything else

it is a story being spead and manipulated in order to become vitrual fact to be used in the liable case against bp in order to ensure survival of the sister with damage reparations.

"it was not our fault, the blow out preventer had been infected by an invisible boogievirus that spreads through the ether. It was some hackers fault"
will be their line of defense and the judge will have to rule in bp's favor (you know how that works at that level)

letting them get away with mass murder on a global scale

how long until people react (in a cohesive peaceful way) i still wonder?

dhlos


In my opinion, after so much reading my brain hurts, I agree with you 100% dhlos. Far too much diversion from the real problem and laying responsibility at bp's door.

I only have one problem with your synopsis. It would seem that this is becoming a global event with reports about infections coming in from around the world. Not saying that BP would not try to use this most opportune event to their advantage. But something like this would have to be proved in court, doubt if just claiming it to be true is going to wash. If you know what I mean.

you said it
i said the same
msm is reporting such (or am i mistaken?) soon to be derived as facts by a court of law
so what the problem with my hypothesis?
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Your Hypothesis, if I understand it correctly is. This whole comp infection was dreamed up as a cover for BP taking responsibility for the gulf event. That the whole infection is a false flag and is not really happening. Hense my suggesting through all the reports coming in that perhaps there is really something happening other than a made up story by tptb to cover for BP. While anything is possible some thing are more probable while others are just plain absurd.
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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.

Storm related?
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yes. storms in south new jersey. we have tornado watches in effect here.

but at least my q key works on the phone. lol
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped....

I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad.

BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things....

That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there...

I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months.

It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either.

Thanks for the info. could you please give more info on who is doing the boarding, what bp was doing in the gulf, link to you thread, and who we are in the middle of. thanks
 Quoting: Rken 1115157

If you look hard enough and with the "mundane" blinders removed that we have been conditioned to wear. Enough to see what is "really" going on is there we just have to look, more detailed and revealing info has to be dug out but is there.

the power behind the throne will NEVER come out at a press conference on the WH rose garden arm-in-arm with POTUS and anounce the truth and what is really going on. There are MANY people who can't handle it mentally, i.e. The Boat captain who was oil clean up contractor from Florida, shot himself in the head while out on his boat, I believe.

I said as much as I feel comfortable saying as far as naming and calling out but I general terms, "them", "they", "allies", and just simple nicknames such as people now use alot "woody under the sea",

"Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Not Spongebob anymore but WOODY."

I wrote a somewhat long reply to people who are still chasing after BP, They can try for as long as they have money. Money is what most people are looking for....I will put forth one detailed question.

IF BP caused this spill (which they never admitted and still deny responsibility) and they are responsible for what happened, WHY is it that NO environmental group i.e. sierra club, hehe PITA, or the US GOV, EPA, anyone has file suit in court, no employees, no cleanup employees, NOBODY has sued BP nor will it be allow to go anywhere just like the Birth Certificate issue with OBAMA. OBAMA was put there to do one thing, give good speeches, be charismatic and convincing, sow some dissent to keep the ruse going of LEFT vs RIGHT distraction to allow us to feel like we have control. That is why he played golf the weekend of the spill and BP's CEO went on yacht sailing trip. THere is nothing they can do but do their part and stay out of the way of what is being done under the water. Compartmentalization and need to know, if you've work for the US GOV those are words to live by.

Has anyone ever verified the individuals who died in the rig blast? If there is a trail that leads to a body, when was the time of death, and other than the capital hill hearing dog and pony show, why hasn't the Mainstream media been plastering bio's on the TV showing the lives of the unfortunate soles who lost their lives on the Macondo site? Normal posturing and prepositioning has NOT been done to sue a big corporation...This is all obvious..Heck even the Name Macondo is a symbol of the ominus nature of what is down there and what may come of it."THEY" work off of the cryptic and symbols i.e. secret societies, Mult level analogies, at one level means this, highter levels mean that...the mind games and "where in the world in waldo" hide and seek is the modus operendi (spelling?)hide in plain sight, been doing it a long time.
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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.

Storm related?


yes. storms in south new jersey. we have tornado watches in effect here.

but at least my q key works on the phone. lol
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wacht the tornado footage it is probably like many other of our "incoming storms" that seem to have more than we are accustomed to.
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...........

It is entirely plausible from what I have read about the malfunctioning equipment and misreading gauges that a faulty well design plus a configured electronic attack on the DWH systems could definitely be in the running as a plausible explanation for the disaster.

Bomb( the pressurized oil reserve) + Fuse (the faulty well) + Ignition (targeted electronic attack on April 20) = False Flag Disaster

Any takers? hiding


Continuing with that theme:

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

Gulf oil spill: Computer glitches plagued the Deepwater Horizon rig, technician says



Stuxnet does not create "glitches" as I understand the effect of the program, but instead seeks out a particular system function and freezes, or malfunctions that particular function and that when it does, it's all over.


But it could stop the valves on the bop from functioning properly. Thus creating a blow out. It just feels right to me.
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It could also cause an array of pressure gauges to misread as was reported on 4/20, which meant the engineers and drillers on board had no idea what the down-hole conditions were when they displaced the riser from drilling mud to seawater.

The computer malfunctions on the DWH could have been a symptom of the virus inflirating and testing the systems, or an operator doing so through back doors installed by the virus.

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OK last post from me tonight.....

this is also from a friend at f/book, seeing we discussed LHC today...here goes

ReportApollyon, The bottomless pit and the Large Hadron collider & The Bible.by Robert DeBovis on Thursday, 30 September 2010 at 23:06

The collective consciousness of the human race seems to be sensing the end of all things. Ancient prophecy is taken seriously by many to justify that “feeling” of the approaching end to try and make sense of that feeling. People more so today than ever are also having a kind of lemming mentality where more than ever we destroy ourselves with our various addictions, wars and other assorted destructive behaviours too numerous to mention here. So does the end of all things approach?

I have studied ancient prophecy for a long time, and with all that I have researched, the biblical prophecies seem to give a more precise overview of the current time we live in right down to the very character of the people living in these times;

1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


That is indeed the state of the human race at this time.


During the course of my research I have found another interesting connection with which I want to bring to your attention. That is the connection with Abaddon and the bottomless pit and a possible otherwise unseen connection with the Large Hadron Collider.

I know this has been mentioned many times on many forums, and has been discussed in depth, but I decided to dig a little deeper to see what other connections I could find.

What I found kind of startled me. I found that the town that the LHC complex is situated-Saint Genis Pouilly-was in Roman times called Apolliacum, the town and a temple being dedicated to Apollyon.


APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning "Destroyer," given in Revelation 9:11 for "the angel of the bottomless pit" (in Hebrew called Abaddon), also identified as the king of the demonic "locusts" described in Revelation 9:3-10...In one manuscript, instead of Apollyon the text reads "Apollo," the Greek god of death and pestilence as well as of the sun, music, poetry, crops and herds, and medicine. Apollyon is no doubt the correct reading. But the name Apollo (Gk Apollon) was often linked in ancient Greek writings with the verb apollymi or apollyo, "destroy." From this time of Grotius, "Apollyon" has often been taken here to be a play on the name Apollo. The locust was an emblem of this god, who poisoned his victims, and the name "Apollyon" may be used allusively in Revelation to attack the pagan god and so indirectly the Roman emperor Domitian, who liked to be regarded as Apollo incarnate.

(Anchor Bible Dictionary)

The text in Revelation 9 reads;

1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


So is it coincidence that the LHC was located in the very place where a temple/town dedicated to the king of the bottomless pit or is it by design?

In fact, if you look at the LHC from the air it resembles a lock, it also resembles masonic symbology of the pyramid and the all seeing eye pointing towards the town that was dedicated to to the destroyer spoken of in Revelation. So is it the lock that the “star from heaven” is going to open? That star of course being Lucifer who fell from heaven corrupting mankind, our science to achieve his aim of destroying the apple of Gods eye-us.

As bottomless pits go, I cannot think of anything more bottomless than a black hole. A singularity that is infinitely dense yet infinitely small where the laws of physics breakdown.

The LHC will produce micro black holes that supposedly evaporate as quickly as they are formed. They also use outdated and debunked physics to justify that fact using Stephen Hawking's now debunked Hawking's radiation to prove their point. However scientists are merely flawed humans also and make many mistakes

Nostradamus even mentions something happening;

Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,

Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,

Raypoz will exterminate all who oppose him,(?)

Before the coming the sky will show signs



The RAYPOZ being positive rays maybe?

So is the LHC the key to unlocking the so called God particle? Or is the key to unlocking the door to the bottomless pit? I guess we will see in time.


What this all means is....?


They knew that the tomb of Apollo Was there. They Choose to build on it.

They knew it was the ancient site of -The Bottomless Abyss.

The Powers that Be. Try to Follow history and the bible. , they Make corrections when needed!

It was destiny for the collider to be built..and on the spot of so called apollyon.

Things happen for a reason! ones who see things how they really are, Illuminatti.

 Quoting: bevvy


Great posts today Bevvy!! Everything going on around us is so unsettling, thousands of different attacks, yet the info in your posts sum it all up. We are all on a predestined ride and the only control we have is in our own/individual spirituality, meaning, have we chosen to become good souls or evil. Have we chosen to govern our lives and actions by the light (righteousness/spirituality) or by the world (we know who is in charge of worldy desires).

Appreciate the re-exposure of what I believe to be the culmination of our existence. hf

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dang! The power just went out inmy neighborhood. all is OK. I reallyh hate using my cell phone for this.

Storm related?


Won't be that simple, probably targeted by the quantum virus because he is too close to the truth....
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how do you deduct that?
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Also, this was completely blacked out of the US media as far as I know.

[link to www.defenders.org]

"Australian oil rig blowout creates environmental catastrophe

Thanks. Yeah, it was not mentioned at all. Surprise, surprise. ;-)

This was an August 09 spill but still very relevant to the case in hand....


If you read my post from yesterday you will see I told everyone that all rigs are being boarded china and Austrailia, they get blown up or if reaction is not quick enough they get ransack and tipped....

I mentioned it is happening everywhere and more often than people would like to know. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL, OR BP, AND NEVER HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT. The Oil was not Oil Like people think. Coreexit was not Coreexit like people think either, it was designed to turn something real bad into something hopefully not so bad.

BP is a cover, a front, a fall guy who will never fall as they are doing their duty and what they are told buy those individuals who REALLY are running things....

That is why BP never put in the 20 billion as promised, they were not drilling for oil as people think they were, there were in a forbidden area for a reason and oil exploration was not that reason, that is why they were the ONLY one there...

I hate to see such wonderfully intelligent and astute people on this site chase "Red Herrings" all day for days...It is all a fight for survival and lordship over these lands....We are here and caught in the middle of huge vice hanging on for our race. We alone cannot deal with what has been unleashed on the surface in the 6 months albeit it started probably 3 years ago but the major assault started in the last 4 months.

It is going to geometrically progress at a frightening pace and I guess we will have to see how we are woefully unprepared for the coming "Judgement" for lack of a better word and I don't say that with Revelation undertones either.

Thanks for the info. could you please give more info on who is doing the boarding, what bp was doing in the gulf, link to you thread, and who we are in the middle of. thanks

If you look hard enough and with the "mundane" blinders removed that we have been conditioned to wear. Enough to see what is "really" going on is there we just have to look, more detailed and revealing info has to be dug out but is there.

the power behind the throne will NEVER come out at a press conference on the WH rose garden arm-in-arm with POTUS and anounce the truth and what is really going on. There are MANY people who can't handle it mentally, i.e. The Boat captain who was oil clean up contractor from Florida, shot himself in the head while out on his boat, I believe.

I said as much as I feel comfortable saying as far as naming and calling out but I general terms, "them", "they", "allies", and just simple nicknames such as people now use alot "woody under the sea",

"Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Not Spongebob anymore but WOODY."

I wrote a somewhat long reply to people who are still chasing after BP, They can try for as long as they have money. Money is what most people are looking for....I will put forth one detailed question.

IF BP caused this spill (which they never admitted and still deny responsibility) and they are responsible for what happened, WHY is it that NO environmental group i.e. sierra club, hehe PITA, or the US GOV, EPA, anyone has file suit in court, no employees, no cleanup employees, NOBODY has sued BP nor will it be allow to go anywhere just like the Birth Certificate issue with OBAMA. OBAMA was put there to do one thing, give good speeches, be charismatic and convincing, sow some dissent to keep the ruse going of LEFT vs RIGHT distraction to allow us to feel like we have control. That is why he played golf the weekend of the spill and BP's CEO went on yacht sailing trip. THere is nothing they can do but do their part and stay out of the way of what is being done under the water. Compartmentalization and need to know, if you've work for the US GOV those are words to live by.

Has anyone ever verified the individuals who died in the rig blast? If there is a trail that leads to a body, when was the time of death, and other than the capital hill hearing dog and pony show, why hasn't the Mainstream media been plastering bio's on the TV showing the lives of the unfortunate soles who lost their lives on the Macondo site? Normal posturing and prepositioning has NOT been done to sue a big corporation...This is all obvious..Heck even the Name Macondo is a symbol of the ominus nature of what is down there and what may come of it."THEY" work off of the cryptic and symbols i.e. secret societies, Mult level analogies, at one level means this, highter levels mean that...the mind games and "where in the world in waldo" hide and seek is the modus operendi (spelling?)hide in plain sight, been doing it a long time.
 Quoting: sumdumguy 1113861

See that wasn't so hard. your getting better. But tell us something we don't already know. Like what was BP doing in the gulf. Who boarded the the oil rig. Still pretty vague info as far as I'm concerned. Come on, just come out and say it. If there is anything to be said that is. You sound like just another supposed insider game player. Sorry If Im wrong. Like I said enough bsing around.

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