Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,281 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 642,225
Pageviews Today: 955,667Threads Today: 261Posts Today: 5,008
09:14 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
09/30/2010 11:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
OK, folks, this is semi-unrelated, but a lot of you are keeping an eye on

the uvb/sixteen days/RUSSIAN FEDERATION OP thread. Besides, at this point

damn near everything is a part of this thread.

Last night an A/C ( some have speculated that RUSSIAN FEDERATION has

posted as A/C a few times) posted instructions to research SIPART PS2.




[link to www.automation.siemens.com]


The above link shows this to be a SIEMENS product which handles automatic

valves and controls.

So I asked what's the importance?


An "AC" referred me to the LHCb (LARGE HADRON COLLIDER).


Not an engineering-type, I asked what's the connection?


The answer is below, along with the pertinent quotes.


Another "AC" pointed out that malfunctioning automatic control valves


on the large hadron collider would have rather spectacular consequences.


STUXNET, in my understanding, is especially directed at Siemens

technology.





Re: UVB-76 - Important message in 16 days. Quote

OP just tell the people here, it doesn't matter now it's too late.

Stuxnet is heading for the LHCb however a thing of beauty is not going to be revealed, quite the opposite.


Research this it's at the bottom of the hole, however the smoke and mirrors routine is from the last age, no time for it now.

SIPART PS2



Are you saying that the ultimate goal of STUXNET is to interfere with

the valves and controllers produced by SIEMENS, and which, I assume, are

installed in many strategic nuclear facilities in many different countries?

Perhaps ALL AT ONCE???
Quoting: Pondering Mightily


Mostly correct.

No time for playing chess any more, not that it matters.

The panic is indeed relating to all Siemens PLC's and field wiring but there is only one target A direct attack would be too obvious so a more scattered attack is needed.

The control of the cooling at the LHCb regulated by the SIPART PS2.

Does nobody remember it was switched off a time ago?

Remember what the OP said, there is many layers.

Check the latest Bilderberg agenda, this blogger has an idea, but has missed the mark.

[link to blogs.telegraph.co.uk]

Global cooling doesn't allude to the planet, it alludes to the cooling of a large circular object.

A World within a World so to speak.




So that's my 2 cents



interesting, been reading all the different theories on this thing. PLC are in almost all cases, network controlled, and usually remotely for tech support. I have worked on climate controlled versions and with different software controllers. a default file is usually kept and on some controllers can be launched automatically if there is failure in the configured processing. If this default file was corrupted and launched only an offline manual override and reprogram is all that is available. that can be hours of head scratching and worst if the rom or firmware took a hit would pass on the same results with corrected files relaunched. what a mess that would be for hazzardous enviroment controls in comparison to climate ones which I had delt with.

maybe I should read up more on this topic.




Woodie, you are the only one who picked up on this. I was thinking of

reposting it. Thank you, kindly.


Basically, the latest theories are that a QUANTUM VIRUS was released

(perhaps in 2008), as a seed to slowly grow and infect SIEMENS CONTROL-

VALVES (they are EVERYWHERE), with the ultimate goal of infecting

the cooling system of the LARGE HADRON COLLIDER. If such a thing

as a "quantum virus" exists, it does not need the "physical world"

to transmit and transmute itself. I would love to hear from BEZERKERS

with or without a scientific background, because on this thread, not

much can hide. And this whole "worldwide quantum virus" thingie

is a bit spookin' me.
 Quoting: Pondering Mightily


hello PM. thank you.
its hard to grasp this thing in its entire concept but I for one without scientific background, can only speculate mechanically. imo, it appears as a carrier to backdoor ether looking for other control systems. my thoughts before of all the different warfare, foot, mechanized, air, sea, cold, robotic, bio, and now technological. is this quantum agent just a carrier to launch at different levels to ultimatly get to the meat and potatoes ? or, another senerio from the slow death of crude supported infrastructures, to break down all means of energy production to pave way for the alternatives, thus all heads turn to that supplier for safe and reliable sources. just throwing opinions out there. lastly, a means to divert attention from the bigger picture, isn't it getting alot of attention ? Its complex, and I personally see many variables from alot of different inputs, I just can't put it together yet, its like the first time on a rubics cube.

spooky is right. but spookier is the sinkholes, and has always caught my attention. I have personally seen a storm related water driven sink hole twice in my life appear right before me, one swallowed a car in front of me on a busy los angeles street while doing 35 mph, I'm glad I do my own brakes. the other opened up a 6 inch storm drain line to a underground well, that line was fully loaded and acted as a water cannon and undermined a huge tree in seconds and the tree went and hole grew bigger and swallowed a two story house and its pool into it in under 20 minutes. was intense to see these things. all these holes, get the news that they appeared probably half the time. but you never hear anymore after that on how they remedy it or explain the source. way too many of them worldwide, its without a doubt, connected, but to what ?

ok, that was my 2 cents.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
Echoes
User ID: 1114716
United States
09/30/2010 11:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Per Goetz Liedtke on the SCADAlisterve, “Siemens is the market leader in oil drilling control systems. The Deepwater Horizon drilling rig had both Siemens and GE Fanuc equipment, but I believe the latter was in the Blow Out Preventer (yes, off-shore oil drilling rigs use PLCs or controllers in the underwater equipment - even 5000 feet down).”

[link to community.controlglobal.com]

Hmmmm....



Doesn't make any difference whose equipment is being used in a rig if it's being gerry-rigged and then blown into the water.

Perhaps it would matter if Stuxnet has been around longer then we think. Iran maybe just the tip of the iceburg.

From what I understand, Stuxnet has been in the wild for about a year now.



Correct. The OP of the uvb/sixteen days thread claimed it was released in

2008. The thing I can't get out of my mind is that STUXNET (supposedly)

DOES NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CONNECTION TO SPREAD.


It sounds as though if one part/place resonates at the right frequency

it can set off other places/parts with NO CONTACT!

The ramifications of this are staggering. It is possible that the majority of our

"gas line explosions", and many other increasingly strange shut-downs/

explosions are the result of a computer virus which affects the SIEMENS

control valves, but which spreads "through the ether".



How would you FIND it?


How would you ISOLATE it?


How would you STOP it?

What I have found is that lies stick. This would be the basis of neumonics memory system. Tie something you want to remember with a lie and it sticks.




Sorry, don't really get what you mean--lies. Do you mean that STUXNET is a

lie? Or that the possibility that Stuxnet affected Deepwater Horizon is

a lie? Thanks.


EDIT for ? mark.

see above bolded.




I see your point RKEN. the above bolded is a THEORY. Not a proven

fact. However, with the new evidence that STUXNET is spreading like

wildfire, along with Russian Federation OP's claim that the target is China

(this claim was made when only Iran was affected), and with the new

breakdown of computer systems in China, it is a theory which is

resonating ever more strongly with me. ; )

Well if your theory is correct tptb would seem to be in some pretty deep shit. And it usually roles down hill.

The thought of human having this kind of technology is truly scary as we don't have a very good track record given this much power. One thing I was thinking was perhaps it was and is time released, allowing it to get deeply inbeded in the world comp systems before becoming apparent. I believe it might also be electrically related. Another words it is infecting comp through there power supply. Could perhaps electrical supply systems be carrying the virus. this would be an avenue of infection that most would not suspect. Puzzling to say the least.
 Quoting: Rken 1115157


hello rken, deeply embedded is one theory, I cant see how it could affect a power supply, especially one with a transformer. Data and supply two seperate paths always a set of conductors for supply, while data could be polled on a current driven line, I cant see it sharing the source.
corrupted data disabling the source could be a senerio.
my thoughts are, if plc's are being corrupted and causing the servos clock times to be reconfigured, then it is in the logic and not the actuator ( servo ) itself. there are many, upon many, differant software programs to operate the plc's for multitudes of applications, quantum virus fits nicely to have the ability to cross operating platforms and seek the logic for the servos. change those clock speeds or make them variable, opens a whole world of shit. imo.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
China and the moon :


China readies to launch 2nd lunar probe
September 29, 2010
[link to edition.cnn.com]

snips:
The Chang'e-2 lunar probe is to be launched on or around China's National Day, which falls on October 1, China Daily said.
...
The lunar probe will test key landing technology for Chang'e-3, and provide high-resolution photographs of the landing area, China Daily said, citing space officials. Chang'e-2 is expected to reach lunar orbit within five days.
...
China launched its first lunar probe in 2007. Chang'e-1 hit the moon in a controlled crash in March 2009 after a 16-month mission.

In the third phase of China's lunar exploration program, Chang'e-3 is to land on the moon in 2013, to collect rock samples and bring them to Earth in 2017.

 Quoting: Krispy71



them rocks must contain some interesting shit.
What did we do with them on Skylab ?
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
snip

Well, maybe. But they've known about this thing since Jan. 2009???? And that's all they got???

lmao


Hmmm...maybe only: Stuxnet is a Windows-specific computer worm first discovered in June 2010 by VirusBlokAda, a security firm based in Belarus.
Did you read it was known earlier?



A little birdie told me...

- the concept for the 'virus' came out of Russia
- the 'virus' is a quantum 'virus'
- it is programmed to seek out specific information
- that information can be, theoretically, anywhere in the universe (think about that for a minute!)

- I am most curious about how it ties in with incoming visitors, the October briefcases and more.

The mainstream media are saying it is an Israeli weapon against Iran's nuclear facility. However reports today now indicate that both China and Russia are being 'hit' by it. I doubt the USA would let out if it was being 'hit'.

The Russian OP on the UVB-76 thread has some very interesting things to say about it all - I notice most of ya over there atm.

peace
 Quoting: nexuseditor



just think of what it could do if it jumps to financial ethers. what if that is one of its offsprings ?
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
I know I'm a little behind...but here's my Stuxnet decipher:

stuxnet= ten x ut s
ten x=TENEX
TENEX=Techsnabexport (TENEX)
shares from TENEX transferred to AtomEnergoProm
AtomEnergoProm built Built Bushehr nuclear facility in Iran. (Russia state owned).

tex x= 10/10
ten x= 10:10
UT=Universal time
S=Sunday

Stuxnet, Russian-made weaponized software will complete its mission at the Bushehr nuclear facility on October 10, 2010 at 10:10 UT, which is Sunday, October 10th at 1:40pm in Iran.




Fascinating, the TENEX anagram. I thought of one just before dozing off.

If anyone else got it first, sorry, and all credit to you.


US NEXT



My 2 cents


Now there is one I would rather have not seen!! lol
 Quoting: fairflight




texnet
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
nexuseditor

User ID: 1112302
Australia
10/01/2010 12:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.
 Quoting: Echoes 1114716


at the risk of going waaay off topic - but I am concerned for those in the GoM with the rashes and staph infections.

Mutated Staph infections can get very nasty. I have heard of some success stories using the following treatment ideas:
- 'ordinary' zapping - the kind that puts a mild electric current through your lymphatic system
- the Beck Zapper - the one that puts a mild current through your circulatory system (you need to know what you are doing, why, and what to look out for with this one)
- colloidal silver (make sure its colloidal and not ionic)
- MMS
- bicarb soda in water (teaspoon 2 or 3 times per day) alkalizes the system like nothing else, plus it is napalm against all fungus problems (candida especially). One oncologist in Italy uses this to cure some cancers. (I know a guy who cured himself of terminal lung cancer JUST by taking bicard soda in water three times per day!)
- a liquid mineral supplement called "SupaBoost"
- urine therapy is also incredibly effective against foreign pathogens, but I would not use it with a raging staph infection

If I had a staph infection that had started to overwhelm my body's natural defenses (and modern Staphs are mutating thanks to antiobiotics and biolabs) - I would bring in outside artillery like the zapping; 1 tsp of bicarb soda in water twice daily; and the MMS. If you can't afford a zapper, you could consider finding a farmer with an electric fence (don't laugh, several farmers in Australia have cured themselves of Ross River virus by grabbing their electric fence for a while). I would hold off from licking car batteries unless on death's door tho - although there is evidence of people licking car batteries after snakebite and surviving, so it definitely affects the lymph system (which is where snake venom travels thro, not the blood))

Most of the above can be applied to strep infections too. But above all, please do NOT run off and do ANY of the above without getting fully informed on what you are doing and why. Its not rocket science, but you need to self inform these days.

peace

Last Edited by nexuseditor on 10/01/2010 12:13 AM
"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
(Aldous Huxley)
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Hello folks, I'm back from my pineapple under the sea. geez.
lots to have caught up with, this thread has been moving fast. lots of great info here, great work folks.


Hey Woodie!
Saw what I think was Venus bright over the Pacific tonight...only had binoculars so it wasn't the best, but a beautiful sight none-the-less!
Eyes to the skies!
 Quoting: 1221 1093619


you outta see what that has been looking like over the past year here, in our deep southeast skies.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
1221
User ID: 1093619
United States
10/01/2010 12:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.
 Quoting: Echoes 1114716

Do the best you can and take care of yourself and family first. Glad to hear your son is OK.
1221
hf
1221
User ID: 1093619
United States
10/01/2010 12:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Hello folks, I'm back from my pineapple under the sea. geez.
lots to have caught up with, this thread has been moving fast. lots of great info here, great work folks.


Hey Woodie!
Saw what I think was Venus bright over the Pacific tonight...only had binoculars so it wasn't the best, but a beautiful sight none-the-less!
Eyes to the skies!


you outta see what that has been looking like over the past year here, in our deep southeast skies.
 Quoting: 6 String Woodie


Yeppers...I think thats what I mean.
TutuWuwu

User ID: 940739
United States
10/01/2010 12:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.
 Quoting: Echoes 1114716


Echoes - I experienced something similar for the entire summer. No one could diagnose....nothing worked that the MDs or Naturopaths came up with. My rash was cleared up by pHenominal water...reasonably priced, no side effects.
www.mrsa30day.com.
Since your lymphatic system is concerned, drink lots of water, and don't forget to follow the antibiotic regime with a probiotic regime.

Last Edited by TutuWuwu on 10/01/2010 12:16 AM
You can't have a firm grip on anything when you are pointing your finger.
- Randi Rhodes
Echoes
User ID: 1114716
United States
10/01/2010 12:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.


at the risk of going waaay off topic - but I am concerned for those in the GoM with the rashes and staph infections.

Mutated Staph infections can get very nasty. I have heard of some success stories using the following treatment ideas:
- 'ordinary' zapping - the kind that puts a mild electric current through your lymphatic system
- the Beck Zapper - the one that puts a mild current through your circulatory system (you need to know what you are doing, why, and what to look out for with this one)
- colloidal silver (make sure its colloidal and not ionic)
- MMS
- bicarb soda in water (teaspoon 2 or 3 times per day) alkalizes the system like nothing else, plus it is napalm against all fungus problems (candida especially). One oncologist in Italy uses this to cure some cancers. (I know a guy who cured himself of terminal lung cancer JUST by taking bicard soda in water three times per day!)
- a liquid mineral supplement called "SupaBoost"
- urine therapy is also incredibly effective against foreign pathogens, but I would not use it with a raging staph infection

If I had a staph infection that had started to overwhelm my body's natural defenses (and modern Staphs are mutating thanks to antiobiotics and biolabs) - I would bring in outside artillery like the zapping; 1 tsp of bicarb soda in water twice daily; and the MMS. If you can't afford a zapper, you could consider finding a farmer with an electric fence (don't laugh, several farmers in Australia have cured themselves of Ross River virus by grabbing their electric fence for a while). I would hold off from licking car batteries unless on death's door tho - although there is evidence of people licking car batteries after snakebite and surviving, so it definitely affects the lymph system (which is where snake venom travels thro, not the blood))

Most of the above can be applied to strep infections too. But above all, please do NOT run off and do ANY of the above without getting fully informed on what you are doing and why. Its not rocket science, but you need to self inform these days.

peace
 Quoting: nexuseditor



Wow that is a lot. At this point I wouldn't say it's taken over, localized in two spots, like I said earlier more of an annoyance than pain (maybe 4). I got to get some rest if I am going to research any of that. I say goodnight.
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.
 Quoting: Echoes 1114716



does not hurt to add food grade hydrogen to the list. if you dont use regular, start with 5-6 drops to 12 oz. of water. have somebody test that hot tub water, not your local pool supply store, have a lab do it. at least you can rule out one or the other first hand. I seen bad, bad, real bad stuff in poorly treated hot tubs. nasty ! they are a little better if its a spill over one in a combo pool setting. stand alones are bad news.

best wishes for a speedy recovery.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
breezy

User ID: 680963
United States
10/01/2010 12:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Sorry ChildoFlight-
I tried to quote the two of us separately (like I've seen dhlos do) but failed.
 Quoting: 1221 1093619

perhaps you have to open two windows/tabs and do your c/p in one...then go back to the original reply window so you don't lose it by going back and forth to capture more than one quote??
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
folks, fishing was a very interesting day, there are a couple more fishing days ahead, I will sum it up together there after. meanwhile, keep the popcorn popping.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
Housedad

User ID: 929628
United States
10/01/2010 12:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
well, it would be a kick if the stuxnet is or is augmented by group intelligence augie. the start of wwII?
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

-Men in Black
breezy

User ID: 680963
United States
10/01/2010 12:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
well, it would be a kick if the stuxnet is or is augmented by group intelligence augie. the start of wwII?
 Quoting: Housedad

Hi Housedad...good to see you...
nexuseditor

User ID: 1112302
Australia
10/01/2010 12:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.



does not hurt to add food grade hydrogen to the list. if you dont use regular, start with 5-6 drops to 12 oz. of water. have somebody test that hot tub water, not your local pool supply store, have a lab do it. at least you can rule out one or the other first hand. I seen bad, bad, real bad stuff in poorly treated hot tubs. nasty ! they are a little better if its a spill over one in a combo pool setting. stand alones are bad news.

best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 Quoting: 6 String Woodie



I used to advocate food grade Hydrogen peroxide - but seriously - there are much better alternatives for increasing the oxygen levels in your fluids and tissues. If you can afford it - the Elanra Therapeutic Ioniser/Ionizer is the ONLY negative ion generator on the planet that outputs negative ions of OXYGEN.

H peroxide burns your throat on the way down, and if you take it after meal its a no-brainer coz it starts oxidising your food etc. Plus, people sell you 'food grade' when its not (medical grade is best) and that is a big problem. And then you have to know how to dilute and store it - but the worst problem of all is

if you are caught with large quantities of hydrogen peroxide at your place, you can be automatically deemed a terrorist (see the UK for examples of that)

lol

I DO think the h peroxide is great for external wounds and infections though - which I see is what your point is (duh me)

Look up Oxygen Therapies for more info and debates on all the modalities and delivery systems - its a fascinating topic. Lots of people have cured themselves of various cancers using oxygen therapies as the primary treatment, hence its popularity for 2-3 decades now.

oh dear - going off topic - soz

Last Edited by nexuseditor on 10/01/2010 12:31 AM
"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
(Aldous Huxley)
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
well, it would be a kick if the stuxnet is or is augmented by group intelligence augie. the start of wwII?
 Quoting: Housedad



would give new meaning to Logic. lol
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
Housedad

User ID: 1115935
United States
10/01/2010 12:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
btw power out until 12 noon est. gnite all
There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!

-Men in Black
Hans The Magnificent

User ID: 1100190
United States
10/01/2010 12:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
G'night, HouseDad
Your unban request was denied.
About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still.
Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort
But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol.
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
This is AC with the rash, which they believe is a staph infection...I'll try to remember to keep typing Echoes so those that wish will know who I am. As bad as the infection is these medications are kicking my sorry ass. I remember why I always used to joke that I don't do legal drugs, cool2. But in reality all is as well as can be, spent the day resting like a good boy hopefully tomorrow will show progress.



does not hurt to add food grade hydrogen to the list. if you dont use regular, start with 5-6 drops to 12 oz. of water. have somebody test that hot tub water, not your local pool supply store, have a lab do it. at least you can rule out one or the other first hand. I seen bad, bad, real bad stuff in poorly treated hot tubs. nasty ! they are a little better if its a spill over one in a combo pool setting. stand alones are bad news.

best wishes for a speedy recovery.



I used to advocate food grade Hydrogen peroxide - but seriously - there are much better alternatives for increasing the oxygen levels in your fluids and tissues. If you can afford it - the Elanra Therapeutic Ioniser/Ionizer is the ONLY negative ion generator on the planet that outputs negative ions of OXYGEN.

H peroxide burns your throat on the way down, and if you take it after meal its a no-brainer coz it starts oxidising your food etc. Plus, people sell you 'food grade' when its not (medical grade is best) and that is a big problem. And then you have to know how to dilute and store it - but the worst problem of all is

if you are caught with large quantities of hydrogen peroxide at your place, you can be automatically deemed a terrorist (see the UK for examples of that)

lol

I DO think the h peroxide is great for external wounds and infections though - which I see is what your point is (duh me)

Look up Oxygen Therapies for more info and debates on all the modalities and delivery systems - its a fascinating topic. Lots of people have cured themselves of various cancers using oxygen therapies as the primary treatment, hence its popularity for 2-3 decades now.

oh dear - going off topic - soz
 Quoting: nexuseditor


interesting, but think of the effect on the iron in your blood, would it not induce and multiply iron oxide bacterium ?
ph would become more acidic rendering under 7.0ph.
3% food gade HP not illegal as consumer omd commodity.
well it might be frowned upon if thats all your suitcase contained before boarding a flight.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
6 String Woodie

User ID: 992677
United States
10/01/2010 12:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
night ya'all gotta get zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
more fishin through the weekend.
catch up with you later.
"The wisdom listens when Knowledge speaks". - Quoted by: Jimi Hendrix
TutuWuwu

User ID: 940739
United States
10/01/2010 12:49 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
night ya'all gotta get zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
more fishin through the weekend.
catch up with you later.
 Quoting: 6 String Woodie

Fair winds & tight lines, Woodster
Horizonal time for me too...nite, All!
You can't have a firm grip on anything when you are pointing your finger.
- Randi Rhodes
breezy

User ID: 680963
United States
10/01/2010 12:53 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
nite housedad, nite Hans, nite woody...nite tutu, nite nexus..(begins to sound like the bezerkers are going to bed)

edited to add nexus..

Last Edited by breezy on 10/01/2010 12:53 AM
1221
User ID: 1093619
United States
10/01/2010 12:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Sorry ChildoFlight-
I tried to quote the two of us separately (like I've seen dhlos do) but failed.

perhaps you have to open two windows/tabs and do your c/p in one...then go back to the original reply window so you don't lose it by going back and forth to capture more than one quote??
 Quoting: breezy


I think that's what I did? Opened original as quote, then opened a second as quote, C/P the second quote into the first quote. It moved everything around and didn't work the way I envisioned. Thanks, Breezy. I will try again :) As it makes for an easier read. So much info these days!
breezy

User ID: 680963
United States
10/01/2010 01:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
Sorry ChildoFlight-
I tried to quote the two of us separately (like I've seen dhlos do) but failed.

perhaps you have to open two windows/tabs and do your c/p in one...then go back to the original reply window so you don't lose it by going back and forth to capture more than one quote??


I think that's what I did? Opened original as quote, then opened a second as quote, C/P the second quote into the first quote. It moved everything around and didn't work the way I envisioned. Thanks, Breezy. I will try again :) As it makes for an easier read. So much info these days!
 Quoting: 1221 1093619

OK let me try this...see I quoted you...now I have another window with glp and this thread open too...so I am going to go to that other window and copy something else, and bring it here...we will see what happens...

nite housedad, nite Hans, nite woody...nite tutu, nite nexus..(begins to sound like the bezerkers are going to bed)

edited to add nexus..
 Quoting: breezy


if this works...I hit quote on the other window, and it went to the reply screen, then I copied it and brought it back here to this window...

let's see if it worked..(maybe there's an easier way yet?)hmmm, it did work...and now I'm editing it to say good night..LOL

Last Edited by breezy on 10/01/2010 01:13 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750833
United States
10/01/2010 01:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
So did the navy sink a french sub or what?

Did this thread go off topic at some point?
1221
User ID: 1093619
United States
10/01/2010 01:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
hmmm...let me do a test...since all BEZERKERS seem to have gone zzzzzzzzzzz.
Won't be too intrusive. Thanks Breezy
1221
User ID: 1093619
United States
10/01/2010 01:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
nite housedad, nite Hans, nite woody...nite tutu, nite nexus..(begins to sound like the bezerkers are going to bed)

edited to add nexus..
 Quoting: breezy


folks, fishing was a very interesting day, there are a couple more fishing days ahead, I will sum it up together there after. meanwhile, keep the popcorn popping.
 Quoting: 6 String Woodie

Just a test

News