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Found this site.


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more than you will ever want to read about the Draco and Annunaki. I mean Lots of reading.

None of them come across as good for us. For us, it may a ueston of who is the masters? bad guy A or bad guy B



Sigh ...
Once a crook, always a crook?
Some crooks in a mass, the whole mass a crook too ? ...

Comon !



(directed in general)
READ really and try to open your mind ..
do not only read what you want to see
(or what you have been indoctrinated and seeded/poluted with)
Go beyond and dare to see with your heart and soul,
for they are your real eyes.

There is enough to read and see and feel
that tells the true story,
but you have to be willing to and see the whole picture
of what WAS, what IS, and what could become.
remind yourself that your perception is a tool with power.


Goodnight all hf
 Quoting: Krispy71



No Krispy, not at all. I do not believe they are all crooks.

I do not know WHAT they are.

And, seeing as they have the bigger gun, and I have no true indication of which one is which, just old myths that have been garbled over generations, I would rather err on the worse situation in the way we approach them. If Soemthing comes up to show absolutely who is who, then polarization can occur.

Prepare for the worse, and hope (and pray) for the best.

If you have a potential enemy, you live longer that way.

I do not discount the idea of friendlies. Again, I just do not know for sure which one, if any.

Anything else is a belief system and based on faith, and that is fine. But i have not the faith yet.

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I see Krispy's already gone down the morse code path... forgive my lazyness but I've been mainly referring to 'Only OP's' posts thread to save me hours of reading.

If anyone would humour me, I have some questions ~ it may help bring any other lazy lurkers new to thread up to speed as well as provoke some fresh thinking...

Has there been any confirmation of:

The relevance or otherwise of the morse code idea or was it abandoned because it could compromise the OP? Is that the missing 20%?

Any aircraft being brought down by the Israelies? Was that self-defence or trying to spark an international incident?

Why the Russians were so well prepared?

How long the Chinese submarines had been operating in the area? The first mention of 'chinese assets' is 29th June. So they could have been there in April when DWH sank, had plenty of time to get samples/test weapons/sabotage rig, whatever, and generate reports back to HQ where briefcases prepared for delivery on 29th July.

The deaths of the French sailors on the Emeraude, who 'voted' to continue their mission? As ex-Navy I was never given a vote but then I never had to deal with anything as extraordinary as what I've read here.

Thanks!
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I see Krispy's already gone down the morse code path... forgive my lazyness but I've been mainly referring to 'Only OP's' posts thread to save me hours of reading.
If anyone would humour me, I have some questions ~ it may help bring any other lazy lurkers new to thread up to speed as well as provoke some fresh thinking...

Has there been any confirmation of:
The relevance or otherwise of the morse code idea or was it abandoned because it could compromise the OP? Is that the missing 20%?
Any aircraft being brought down by the Israelies? Was that self-defence or trying to spark an international incident?
Why the Russians were so well prepared?
How long the Chinese submarines had been operating in the area? The first mention of 'chinese assets' is 29th June. So they could have been there in April when DWH sank, had plenty of time to get samples/test weapons/sabotage rig, whatever, and generate reports back to HQ where briefcases prepared for delivery on 29th July.
The deaths of the French sailors on the Emeraude, who 'voted' to continue their mission? As ex-Navy I was never given a vote but then I never had to deal with anything as extraordinary as what I've read here.
Thanks!
 Quoting: fellowearthling



In order as above ...
- I don't recall any morse code relevance from OP's posts - but I don't read every post in detail and may have easily missed it
- OP alluded to the downed aircraft as Venezuelan. It caused some head-scratching because the area we understood all this action was occuring in, was way out of range for Venezuelan aircraft. I think somebody suggested they were returning from Cuba. I looked in the press at the time, but could not find any reference to any related incidents, but it is still a loose end in my mind. Given that so many nations had vessels nearby, I'd say everyone knew in advance something was going on there.
- no idea about the Chinese subs other that what was posted
- no more data about the French sailors. We all presume that the organism being transported back to base posed such a threat to the crew, that a vote was taken on it.

peace

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(Aldous Huxley)
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[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

ISIS Report 20/09/10

*Chemtrails unveiled

*From weather manipulation to geoengineering

*The industrial-military complex for complete weather control against global warming

*The UN enlisted in geoengineering military combat against climate

Moratorium on geoengineering activities
One encouraging piece of information is that, in response to policy interest in geoengineering as a means to control climate, the sub-committee of the United Nations Convention of Biodiversity proposed, in May 2010, a moratorium on geoengineering activities [9]. This proposal will be heard at the Tenth Conference of Parties to the UN Convention of Biodiversity in Nagoya, Japan in October this year (2010).

The Case Orange report further states that the US permits open air testing of chemical and biological weapons, which overrides the civil law mentioned earlier in this article. The authors paraphrase the permissive law thus: “The Secretary of Defense may conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological agents on civilian populations.” It seems that ‘national security’ concerns can be used by the President to overrule environmental and public health considerations. Is the same true in Europe?

I have provided a basic outline of the main evidence arising from the Case Orange report. It makes an important contribution to opening up otherwise secretive agendas that have no place in any self-declared democracy. Other significant reports include an important paper by Dr Ilya Perlingieri, entitled “The Consequences of Toxic Metals and Chemical Aerosols on Human Health” [10]. She states: “Over the past decade, independent testing of Chemtrails around the country have shown a dangerous, extremely poisonous brew that includes: barium, nano-aluminium coated fibreglass (known as CHAFF), radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dessicated blood, mould spores, yellow fungal mycotoxins, ethylene dibromide and polymer fibres. Barium can be compared to the toxicity of arsenic [11] and is known to adversely affect the heart. Aluminium has a history of damaging brain function.” I need hardly add that ethylene dibromide is a highly toxic agricultural pesticide.

Now that we are party to this information we must to act on it. It is vital that we support the moratorium taking place in Japan this October. Do write to your MPs and tell them that these global activities are not the stuff of 'conspiracy theories'; and that they are taking place without public consultation and without any attempt to warn of their likely repercussions.
 Quoting: bevvy


Thank you Bevvy for this post. It is crucial information. One thing that I didn't see here is that anything smaller than 10nm crosses the blood-brain barrier....from the blood via the lungs, right into the nervous system via the brain....lovely - NOT!
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I see Krispy's already gone down the morse code path... forgive my lazyness but I've been mainly referring to 'Only OP's' posts thread to save me hours of reading.
If anyone would humour me, I have some questions ~ it may help bring any other lazy lurkers new to thread up to speed as well as provoke some fresh thinking...

Has there been any confirmation of:
The relevance or otherwise of the morse code idea or was it abandoned because it could compromise the OP? Is that the missing 20%?
Any aircraft being brought down by the Israelies? Was that self-defence or trying to spark an international incident?
Why the Russians were so well prepared?
How long the Chinese submarines had been operating in the area? The first mention of 'chinese assets' is 29th June. So they could have been there in April when DWH sank, had plenty of time to get samples/test weapons/sabotage rig, whatever, and generate reports back to HQ where briefcases prepared for delivery on 29th July.
The deaths of the French sailors on the Emeraude, who 'voted' to continue their mission? As ex-Navy I was never given a vote but then I never had to deal with anything as extraordinary as what I've read here.
Thanks!



In order as above ...
- I don't recall any morse code relevance from OP's posts - but I don't read every post in detail and may have easily missed it
- OP alluded to the downed aircraft as Venezuelan. It caused some head-scratching because the area we understood all this action was occuring in, was way out of range for Venezuelan aircraft. I think somebody suggested they were returning from Cuba. I looked in the press at the time, but could not find any reference to any related incidents, but it is still a loose end in my mind. Given that so many nations had vessels nearby, I'd say everyone knew in advance something was going on there.
- no idea about the Chinese subs other that what was posted
- no more data about the French sailors. We all presume that the organism being transported back to base posed such a threat to the crew, that a vote was taken on it.

peace

-
 Quoting: nexuseditor

To add to Duncan's reply: The Russians had previous experience with either the same or similar organism in Lake Baikal, and had worked out a "control" mechanism they called a calibrator, with which they generously equipped some of the subs in the GoM.
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[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

ISIS Report 20/09/10

*Chemtrails unveiled

*From weather manipulation to geoengineering

*The industrial-military complex for complete weather control against global warming

*The UN enlisted in geoengineering military combat against climate

Moratorium on geoengineering activities
One encouraging piece of information is that, in response to policy interest in geoengineering as a means to control climate, the sub-committee of the United Nations Convention of Biodiversity proposed, in May 2010, a moratorium on geoengineering activities [9]. This proposal will be heard at the Tenth Conference of Parties to the UN Convention of Biodiversity in Nagoya, Japan in October this year (2010).

The Case Orange report further states that the US permits open air testing of chemical and biological weapons, which overrides the civil law mentioned earlier in this article. The authors paraphrase the permissive law thus: “The Secretary of Defense may conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological agents on civilian populations.” It seems that ‘national security’ concerns can be used by the President to overrule environmental and public health considerations. Is the same true in Europe?

I have provided a basic outline of the main evidence arising from the Case Orange report. It makes an important contribution to opening up otherwise secretive agendas that have no place in any self-declared democracy. Other significant reports include an important paper by Dr Ilya Perlingieri, entitled “The Consequences of Toxic Metals and Chemical Aerosols on Human Health” [10]. She states: “Over the past decade, independent testing of Chemtrails around the country have shown a dangerous, extremely poisonous brew that includes: barium, nano-aluminium coated fibreglass (known as CHAFF), radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dessicated blood, mould spores, yellow fungal mycotoxins, ethylene dibromide and polymer fibres. Barium can be compared to the toxicity of arsenic [11] and is known to adversely affect the heart. Aluminium has a history of damaging brain function.” I need hardly add that ethylene dibromide is a highly toxic agricultural pesticide.

Now that we are party to this information we must to act on it. It is vital that we support the moratorium taking place in Japan this October. Do write to your MPs and tell them that these global activities are not the stuff of 'conspiracy theories'; and that they are taking place without public consultation and without any attempt to warn of their likely repercussions.


Thank you Bevvy for this post. It is crucial information. One thing that I didn't see here is that anything smaller than 10nm crosses the blood-brain barrier....from the blood via the lungs, right into the nervous system via the brain....lovely - NOT!
 Quoting: TutuWuwu



You know, sometimes I really have to wonder. So many people scream about the chemtrails and the vaccines and HAARP and they worry about being poisoned by TPTB

but then they go home and poison themselves with vaccines, soft drinks, sugars, drugs, caffeine, inhaling carpet moulds, inhaling solvents, etc etc.

Even worse, they put aftershave, perfumes and shampoos onto their skin - in some ridiculous belief that smelling nice for a few hours is more important that letting solvents get into your blood stream and into the brain.

For the record folks - YOUR SKIN IS YOUR SECOND STOMACH. You should NEVER put ANYTHING on your skin that you cannot ingest. If its poison in your stomach, its poison to your body. Everything you put on your skin goes into your bloodstream while bypassing every natural or god-given defence mechanism.

My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)
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[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

ISIS Report 20/09/10

*Chemtrails unveiled

*From weather manipulation to geoengineering

*The industrial-military complex for complete weather control against global warming

*The UN enlisted in geoengineering military combat against climate

Moratorium on geoengineering activities
One encouraging piece of information is that, in response to policy interest in geoengineering as a means to control climate, the sub-committee of the United Nations Convention of Biodiversity proposed, in May 2010, a moratorium on geoengineering activities [9]. This proposal will be heard at the Tenth Conference of Parties to the UN Convention of Biodiversity in Nagoya, Japan in October this year (2010).

The Case Orange report further states that the US permits open air testing of chemical and biological weapons, which overrides the civil law mentioned earlier in this article. The authors paraphrase the permissive law thus: “The Secretary of Defense may conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological agents on civilian populations.” It seems that ‘national security’ concerns can be used by the President to overrule environmental and public health considerations. Is the same true in Europe?

I have provided a basic outline of the main evidence arising from the Case Orange report. It makes an important contribution to opening up otherwise secretive agendas that have no place in any self-declared democracy. Other significant reports include an important paper by Dr Ilya Perlingieri, entitled “The Consequences of Toxic Metals and Chemical Aerosols on Human Health” [10]. She states: “Over the past decade, independent testing of Chemtrails around the country have shown a dangerous, extremely poisonous brew that includes: barium, nano-aluminium coated fibreglass (known as CHAFF), radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dessicated blood, mould spores, yellow fungal mycotoxins, ethylene dibromide and polymer fibres. Barium can be compared to the toxicity of arsenic [11] and is known to adversely affect the heart. Aluminium has a history of damaging brain function.” I need hardly add that ethylene dibromide is a highly toxic agricultural pesticide.

Now that we are party to this information we must to act on it. It is vital that we support the moratorium taking place in Japan this October. Do write to your MPs and tell them that these global activities are not the stuff of 'conspiracy theories'; and that they are taking place without public consultation and without any attempt to warn of their likely repercussions.


Thank you Bevvy for this post. It is crucial information. One thing that I didn't see here is that anything smaller than 10nm crosses the blood-brain barrier....from the blood via the lungs, right into the nervous system via the brain....lovely - NOT!



You know, sometimes I really have to wonder. So many people scream about the chemtrails and the vaccines and HAARP and they worry about being poisoned by TPTB

but then they go home and poison themselves with vaccines, soft drinks, sugars, drugs, caffeine, inhaling carpet moulds, inhaling solvents, etc etc.

Even worse, they put aftershave, perfumes and shampoos onto their skin - in some ridiculous belief that smelling nice for a few hours is more important that letting solvents get into your blood stream and into the brain.

For the record folks - YOUR SKIN IS YOUR SECOND STOMACH. You should NEVER put ANYTHING on your skin that you cannot ingest. If its poison in your stomach, its poison to your body. Everything you put on your skin goes into your bloodstream while bypassing every natural or god-given defence mechanism.

My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)
 Quoting: nexuseditor


Favorite rant of mine for years and years, as well, Duncan. We could go on for days and seasons, amirite? I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I have to hug someone who has perfumey crap all over their body. The thing that gets my bloomers in a ginormous wad is that they spend billions to convince you to pay waaay too much money to poison yourself!

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Old Article, but like so many, shows how long this has been in the works

Chemtrails And Terror
In The Age Of Nuclear War

The following article appeared in the Idaho Observer and is reproduced here for fair use only:
By Amy Worthington
Idaho Observer
6-3-4

'In their quest to remain top dog in the kill chain, the purveyors of perpetual war have deliberately dimmed earth,s life-giving sunlight5 and reduced atmospheric visibility6 with lung-clogging particulates and polymers. This ecological terrorism has severely compromised public health, according to thousands of testimonials. Years of mass appeals to legislators, media and military officials for information, and for cessation of catastrophic atmospheric degradation, have fallen on deaf bureaucratic ears. Public awareness of what befalls us remains as murky as our skies because those "in the know" are muzzled by national secrecy laws and Americans have no authority to challenge matters of national security. Left to gather clues, we know this much so far:

1. At least part of the aerosol project has been dubbed Operation Cloverleaf,7 probably due to its multi-faceted operations, which include: weather modification, military communications, space weapons development, ozone and global warming research plus biological weaponry and detection testing.

2. Dumping tons of particulate matter from aircraft has geo-engineered our planetary atmosphere into a highly charged, electrically-conductive plasma useful for military projects.8 The air we breathe is laden with asbestos-sized synthetic fibers and toxic metals, including barium salts, aluminum, and reportedly, radioactive thorium.9 These materials act as electrolytes to enhance conductivity of military radar and radio waves.10 Poisonous on par with arsenic and a proven suppressant of the human immune system,11 atmospheric barium weakens human muscles, including those of the heart.12 Inhaled aluminum goes directly to the brain and medical specialists confirm that it causes oxidative stress within brain tissue, leading to formation of Alzheimer's like neurofibrillary tangles.13 Radioactive thorium is known to cause leukemia and other cancers.14

3. Only a small percentage of the military,s atmospheric modification projects are visibly obvious. What we can,t see is equally dangerous. The ionosphere, the earth and its inhabitants are continually bombarded with high frequency microwaves used to manipulate the charged atmosphere for weather modification, information gathering and for tectonic (earthquake-producing) weaponry.15 Independent chemtrail researcher Clifford Carnicom confirms that we are also continuously subjected to extremely low electromagnetic frequencies (ELF) pulsing at 4 hertz multiples, frequencies known to profoundly affect human biological and mental functioning.16

4. There is a well-documented biological component to continuously ongoing atmospheric studies in which nations and regions are furtively inoculated via specially designed delivery systems with combinations of viruses, bacteria, fungi, mycoplasma, desiccated blood cells and exotic biological markers so that testmasters can assess human, animal and plant response.17

5. The multi-organizational megalith perpetrating these bio-chem projects against humanity includes the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) and its research arm DARPA, plus the Department of Energy (DOE) with its huge network of national labs and universities. Private defense contractors and pharmaceutical companies are heavily involved.18 Cooperating governments of other nations and probably some United Nations agencies are complicit, since the aerosol projects are global in scope.'


'Cloverleaf particles and polymers saturating the air we breathe are smaller than 10 microns (PM 10) and are invisible to the human eye. By comparison, a human hair is 60 to 100 microns in thickness. Scientists and the EPA report that because PM10 and sub-micron pollution particles bypass lung filters and enter the blood stream, they cause radical changes in the endocrine and nervous systems. 38 They can trigger high blood pressure and cause heart attack within two hours of inhalation.39 They cause the blood to become sticky, making it tougher for the heart to pump and increasing the risk of blood clots and vessel damage.40 Now researchers in Taiwan document "a significant increase" in the number of stroke victims when PM10 pollutant levels rise.41 The American Lung Association confirms that we are breathing more toxic air than ever.42 No wonder nationwide asthma rates have been soaring in recent years.43

Tiny synthetic filaments called polymers are part of the brew. In 1990, a NATO report detailed how high-flying aircraft can modify the atmosphere by spraying polymers to absorb electromagnetic radiation.44 U.S. patent number 6315213 describes how cross-linked aqueous polymers dispersed into a storm diminish rain.45

Polymer chemist Dr. R. Michael Castle has studied atmospheric polymers for years. He has found that some of them contain bioactive materials, which can cause "serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin."46 He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores, which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe.47 Allergies anyone?

We can safely bet that into our particle-enriched air, experimenters are also dumping nanoparticles, developed for a variety of military and industrial uses. These engineered carbon molecules, as small as one-thousandth the diameter of human hair, display bizarre chemical properties and are known to trigger organ damage.48 A recent study at Southern Methodist University found that fish exposed to one type of nanoparticle suffered severe brain damage after only 48 hours.49

The military,s aerosol operations have been climate altering to the extreme. Air traffic is a huge source of greenhouse pollution. Increasing that traffic exponentially in order to scatter tons of heat-trapping metallic particulates and heat-liberating barium salts have undoubtedly led to accelerated global warming. Greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, including carbon dioxide, have reached a record high this year.50 As carbon dioxide levels rise, oxygen levels decrease.

In 1996, Scientists for Global Responsibility compiled a report contending that dangerous geoengineering, as proposed by Teller and the Global Change Research Coordination Office, would be absolutely ineffective in mitigating global warming. The report noted that climate engineering research is funded by industry with a vested interest in continued high consumption of fossil fuels.51 The hair-brained scheme of particle engineering was contrived to ensure that industry polluters will never be forced to decrease their greenhouse gas emissions. But because warming and pollution trends have worsened drastically since the aerosol projects began, we must suspect that the warming mitigation program is a hoax and that chemtrailing is really intended, among other things, to create a series of "hobgoblins."

The establishment,s modus operandi for maintaining a fierce and lucrative hold upon the collective American mind has been defined precisely by satirist H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) who wrote: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and thus clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

In The Report from Iron Mountain published in 1967, just as the Pentagon,s lucrative Vietnam War was being revved into high gear, establishment braintrusters confirmed that perpetual war is absolutely vital for controlling and manipulating the masses. The document even suggested a number of options for creating fictitious enemies, noting that perpetual war induces populations to give blind allegiance to political authority.52'

[link to ihsite.com]

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Beevy- grateful you posted this info. I am afraid that the years of exposure we have all been exposed to has severely compromised our health of miind and body. I do hope people realize the seriousness of this deliberate attack on the world populace and seek ways to clean themselves up. We will need our health and strength to endure what is upon us.

God Bless!

P.S. [link to carnicom.com]

Link above is an excellent link of much time and study of this grave issue.
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earthling, I was giving support to your reasoning behind the Russians' experience with the organism.

At least as early as the 1970s, Russia was in Lake Vostok, under the ice, but in warm water. It is possible that they had experience with the organism there, which they found awake and functional in the warm waters of Lake Vostok. There may have been an incident with personnel, because a little over ten years ago, a group of people were put on a medi-vac at McMurdo in Antarctica.

Additional experience was likely acquired underwater in Lake Baikal allowing the Russians to develop technology needed to deal with the organism

I don't recall that we know whether the magnetism giving trouble to the subs in the Gulf was a result of attraction of the organism, or something in the Corexit to magnetize the hydrocarbons.

Anyway, I like your mention of colloidal gold. If a way can be found to stop the morphing and settle the AU into a colloidal mixture, we might have a least a piece to a solution to the hazards in the Gulf for leaving creatures.

Responsible corporations must be brought to task for this and required to release proprietary information. For all we know, anything being done in the Gulf at this time only continues the damage and allows more profits to the corporations. There must be adequate oversight.

Blue skies and sunshine for all.





Trying to simplify some bit's and pieces ~ feel free to point out any errors...

Points:

"... very deep [frozen] hole, underwater, in the GOM..."

"... very 'old' stuff leaks [is warmed and comes out of hibernation] out..."

"Apparently the Russians have been deeper on land [and underwater in Lake Vostok, Antarctica and Lake B, Russia].."


Suggestions of priority to theories:...

This suggested 'mad scientist' would be attached to a group intent upon creating an 'algae oil' as has been suggested several times on this thread. There is support for that idea based upon stock activity over the past 12-18 months.

Some salient points there AC 1142909 ~ I won't dispute any.

I'm not sure if the communication quite hit the mark though...

I was trying to either have verified or shot down a possible link to why Russian sailors had their hands on an 'empirical calibrator to Em (translation problem)', as per one of OP's earlier statements.

Part of my reasoning was based on their experience at dealing with very deep drilling operations that get out of hand.

Another wee ~ un-verified ~ part of my thinking related to the 'Em' component in that communication. It seems probable imo the magnetic anomalies caused by the huge amounts of whatever it is floating around the GOM and making many people sick, may have disrupted submarine and surface vessels navigation equipment enough that they would require re-calibration to compensate for errors...?

You may be aware with the term 'de-gaussing' which can be performed on vessels? Perhaps this 'emp cal' unit did something like that ~ I don't know but if something starts screwing with your compass at sea, you can be royally screwed.

Of course surface vessels should still have their GPS/SatNav systems so it would apply to submerged submarines a lot more so.

Also, why did the US Navy move all those vessels to Costa Rica in early July?

Getting totally off-topic... if it is colloidal gold, it may help mop up a few nasty's...
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The cloud reminded me of the circular Russian cloud formation (watched it on youtube)

BUT I did not see what you found until you enlarged the image. Interesting.


@BHD...is that how your AV's hair got like that?
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Thank you Bevvy for this post. It is crucial information. One thing that I didn't see here is that anything smaller than 10nm crosses the blood-brain barrier....from the blood via the lungs, right into the nervous system via the brain....lovely - NOT!
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Tutu-

That info was in the post bevvy posted just above this one...hope you did not miss it...it was excellent. Bored my husband to death reading it to him over the phone as he was driving home from work!! :)


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28 October 2010 Last updated at 07:47 ET Help

Russia's Shiveluch volcano is erupting in Kamchatka, spewing ash to a height of 10 kilometres above sea level.

Ash from the volcano has covered the settlement of Ust-Kamchatsky, about 90 kilometres away.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Thread: BREAKING.....Huge Eruption over in Russia


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The cloud reminded me of the circular Russian cloud formation (watched it on youtube)

BUT I did not see what you found until you enlarged the image. Interesting.


@BHD...is that how your AV's hair got like that?



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gonna have to flip that AV upside down, or right side up as at were :)
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You know, sometimes I really have to wonder. So many people scream about the chemtrails and the vaccines and HAARP and they worry about being poisoned by TPTB

but then they go home and poison themselves with vaccines, soft drinks, sugars, drugs, caffeine, inhaling carpet moulds, inhaling solvents, etc etc.

Even worse, they put aftershave, perfumes and shampoos onto their skin - in some ridiculous belief that smelling nice for a few hours is more important that letting solvents get into your blood stream and into the brain.

For the record folks - YOUR SKIN IS YOUR SECOND STOMACH. You should NEVER put ANYTHING on your skin that you cannot ingest. If its poison in your stomach, its poison to your body. Everything you put on your skin goes into your bloodstream while bypassing every natural or god-given defence mechanism.

My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)
 Quoting: nexuseditor


Ha ha Nexus...kind of preaching to the choir here i Think...but it is appreciated for those not aware!!
I believe most here eat organic and medicate naturally etc....But great point!!

edit to say...when one spends so much time and money and know how/studying to keep oneself healthy...it is infuriating to know that all your efforts are destroyed by these hideous programs infecting and affecting our soil, seeds air/planet!

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......

President Obama was briefed this morning on a power failure at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming that took 50 nuclear ICBMs, one ninth of the U.S. missile stockpile, temporarily offline on Saturday.


[link to www.weeklystandard.com]


i'm willing to bet that the shutdown was one of the diplomatic pouch pre-announcements of the 13th

a statement to the world - " your nuclear deterrent is useless "

1st show - wall 48hr activation
2nd show - the disappearing village
3rd show - icbm shutdown

dhlos
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dhlos, Please help me reconcile the "disappearing village and wall activation" story.

Just prior to apparent nu clear meltdown under the wall, a report of a village disappearing, a second disappearing, a denial then a report of relocating villagers.

The notice of the wall activation also came at about the time of the nu clear incident.

What did I miss that a village "disappeared" as opposed to having been a part of the meltdown?

Has anyone run a timeline of the activities at the Wall?

I agree that the icbm no go was a storyline in the Chinese communication to the embassy.
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WOODIE AND OTHERS----- I just posted the following on the UVB

thread, and wanted to post it here as well. If any of you have any insight

(other than "swamp gas or lens flare"), I would like your thoughts








--- Just have a question. In the beginning of this thread, you said the

"stars would move". Lately, when I look up at the sky at night, and I have

been doing that a great deal recently, I am seeing them move constantly. This

is what I see. There are numerous "geometric" shapes--more like outlines

of lights. The shapes seem to be triangles and/or quadrangles with a narrow

end. If you can imagine that these shapes have what I would call "perimeter

lights", but on each shape, a different set of the lights are lit. All of them

shine purple, green, and red. One could say they are satellites, but that

would mean that there are over 75 satellites visible just from my back

porch (I live in an area with big trees). Anyways, if I look steadily at these

light(stars), they move. They remain within the same general area, but

frequently move up, down, sideways. The thing is, it is not just one star

moving, but several stars, or the whole geometric shape which moves. What it

looks like, is as though there were huge "ships", which are in the sky with

intermittent lights on to give the illusion of "stars". But because these stars are

actually ships, they have to keep moving back into place to keep up the

illusion. The same way that a boat at anchor would move and bob but not

actually go anywhere.





I have called several of my children out to see it , and they saw it

immediately, and my husband, who thought I was nuts, was out in the quiet

of the middle of the night, watching. He told me the next morning that

I definitely was not nuts.





With all the talk of a fleet of huge ships (which may not be in a visible

spectrum) coming to earth, I would like to hear your (and others)

opinion(s). Thanks, PM
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The cloud reminded me of the circular Russian cloud formation (watched it on youtube)

BUT I did not see what you found until you enlarged the image. Interesting.


@BHD...is that how your AV's hair got like that?



1rof1


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When women glow and men chunder, as I recall.

You lot also walk about upside down and never realize it, now don't ya?


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Found this site.


[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]



more than you will ever want to read about the Draco and Annunaki. I mean Lots of reading.

None of them come across as good for us. For us, it may a ueston of who is the masters? bad guy A or bad guy B



Sigh ...
Once a crook, always a crook?
Some crooks in a mass, the whole mass a crook too ? ...

Comon !



SNIP

No Krispy, not at all. I do not believe they are all crooks.

I do not know WHAT they are.

And, seeing as they have the bigger gun, and I have no true indication of which one is which, just old myths that have been garbled over generations, I would rather err on the worse situation in the way we approach them. If Soemthing comes up to show absolutely who is who, then polarization can occur.

SNIP

Anything else is a belief system and based on faith, and that is fine. But i have not the faith yet.
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House Dad, you just jogged my memory. In one of GF's posts she mentioned the Australian Aborigines. I think I know what it related to now. Not in substance, but 'why'.

The Aborigine history is not written, although it is captured on rock paintings and carvings, but instead is told over and over in the form of stories, performed as song and dance.

Unless you wipe out the entire species, the history will always be passed on. i.e. rocks crumble, tablets get lost, scrolls get hidden away.

Well the Aborigines are still with us, and so are their stories. I bet the OZ mission was to listen to a story, possibly 50,000 years old to see if 'something' that is occurring now, had ever occurred a loong time ago.

+++ may not be blood related, but refer to (3) x events that occurred in the past, all with positive outcomes. The dissappointment (anti-climax) may be that no-one ascended, or things may not have changed.

[I did touch on this ages ago, but your comment jogged my memory.]
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Thank you Bevvy for this post. It is crucial information. One thing that I didn't see here is that anything smaller than 10nm crosses the blood-brain barrier....from the blood via the lungs, right into the nervous system via the brain....lovely - NOT!



Tutu-

That info was in the post bevvy posted just above this one...hope you did not miss it...it was excellent. Bored my husband to death reading it to him over the phone as he was driving home from work!! :)


edit spelling
 Quoting: fairflight

FF, I've been following chemtrails since before Clifford Carnicom got into it.
Back when Will Thomas was the only one coordinating the gathering of the goop and getting lab analysis. Back then, I guess it has to have been 10 to 15 years ago, folks who were subject to this spraying, Texas and California, were jamming the hospital emergency rooms with mysterious diseases. It was a while before they figured out that it was the mycoplasma (Dr. Russell Blaylock figured that out) and there were many deaths. They change the ingredients of the spray according to what they want to do, but the delivery system stays in place. Yes. I read both posts. This is why health maintenance involves much more vigilance and individual responsibility than ever before. Our old systems are no longer reliable. Regular cleansing and heavy metal chelation are a necessity anymore.
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You know, sometimes I really have to wonder. So many people scream about the chemtrails and the vaccines and HAARP and they worry about being poisoned by TPTB

but then they go home and poison themselves with vaccines, soft drinks, sugars, drugs, caffeine, inhaling carpet moulds, inhaling solvents, etc etc.

Even worse, they put aftershave, perfumes and shampoos onto their skin - in some ridiculous belief that smelling nice for a few hours is more important that letting solvents get into your blood stream and into the brain.

For the record folks - YOUR SKIN IS YOUR SECOND STOMACH. You should NEVER put ANYTHING on your skin that you cannot ingest. If its poison in your stomach, its poison to your body. Everything you put on your skin goes into your bloodstream while bypassing every natural or god-given defence mechanism.

My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)


Ha ha Nexus...kind of preaching to the choir here i Think...but it is appreciated for those not aware!!
I believe most here eat organic and medicate naturally etc....But great point!!

edit to say...when one spends so much time and money and know how/studying to keep oneself healthy...it is infuriating to know that all your efforts are destroyed by these hideous programs infecting and affecting our soil, seeds air/planet!
 Quoting: fairflight


Damn it!! ... and I jokingly told my wife that painting myself in chocolate would not be fattening..
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FF, I've been following chemtrails since before Clifford Carnicom got into it.
Back when Will Thomas was the only one coordinating the gathering of the goop and getting lab analysis. Back then, I guess it has to have been 10 to 15 years ago, folks who were subject to this spraying, Texas and California, were jamming the hospital emergency rooms with mysterious diseases. It was a while before they figured out that it was the mycoplasma (Dr. Russell Blaylock figured that out) and there were many deaths. They change the ingredients of the spray according to what they want to do, but the delivery system stays in place. Yes. I read both posts. This is why health maintenance involves much more vigilance and individual responsibility than ever before. Our old systems are no longer reliable. Regular cleansing and heavy metal chelation are a necessity anymore.
 Quoting: TutuWuwu


Thank you Tutu....wish more were aware! Am so amazed when in public and the skies are grided and I mention to a passer-by "look at those nasty chemtrails" and their response is Blank stare or "what? What is a chemtrail"...makes me sad.
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My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)
 Quoting: nexuseditor



yeah, that. that makes no sense.

simply b/c the people you are talking about, (me for example) do NOT go home and put stuff on THEIR CHILDREN, who do not HAVE a blood brain barrier, at least not one that is fully developed. putting a little lotion on your skin is not even minutely comparable to inhaling aluminum particles.


It's the 1 in TWENTY children born today who struggle with autism spectrum disorders that are paying the price for heavy metal toxicity...not you and I who have a fully developed immune system and a fully developed blood brain barrier.
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......

President Obama was briefed this morning on a power failure at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming that took 50 nuclear ICBMs, one ninth of the U.S. missile stockpile, temporarily offline on Saturday.


[link to www.weeklystandard.com]


i'm willing to bet that the shutdown was one of the diplomatic pouch pre-announcements of the 13th

a statement to the world - " your nuclear deterrent is useless "

1st show - wall 48hr activation
2nd show - the disappearing village
3rd show - icbm shutdown

dhlos



dhlos, Please help me reconcile the "disappearing village and wall activation" story.

Just prior to apparent nu clear meltdown under the wall, a report of a village disappearing, a second disappearing, a denial then a report of relocating villagers.

The notice of the wall activation also came at about the time of the nu clear incident.

What did I miss that a village "disappeared" as opposed to having been a part of the meltdown?

Has anyone run a timeline of the activities at the Wall?

I agree that the icbm no go was a storyline in the Chinese communication to the embassy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145233




dhlos, apology for waffling, but I'm taking back my last comment about the icbms in the storyline. The AF screwup was an inside job. Pretty sure about that. I'd been looking for something about the AF nu clear mis-handling and it didn't show until now.

Don't forget about the "coup" which also is being worked from the inside.

[link to www.airforcetimes.com]

"Monday Jun 9, 2008 10:39:01 EDT

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley and Secretary Michael W. Wynne were forced to resign Thursday during hastily arranged meetings with their Pentagon bosses.

Moseley was summoned from the Corona leadership summit at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, to an early morning meeting at the Pentagon with Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to discuss a report on the Air Force’s problems handling nuclear weapons."

Lots more at the link. It's a mess!
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FF, I've been following chemtrails since before Clifford Carnicom got into it.
Back when Will Thomas was the only one coordinating the gathering of the goop and getting lab analysis. Back then, I guess it has to have been 10 to 15 years ago, folks who were subject to this spraying, Texas and California, were jamming the hospital emergency rooms with mysterious diseases. It was a while before they figured out that it was the mycoplasma (Dr. Russell Blaylock figured that out) and there were many deaths. They change the ingredients of the spray according to what they want to do, but the delivery system stays in place. Yes. I read both posts. This is why health maintenance involves much more vigilance and individual responsibility than ever before. Our old systems are no longer reliable. Regular cleansing and heavy metal chelation are a necessity anymore.


Thank you Tutu....wish more were aware! Am so amazed when in public and the skies are grided and I mention to a passer-by "look at those nasty chemtrails" and their response is Blank stare or "what? What is a chemtrail"...makes me sad.
 Quoting: fairflight


My friend, and a lot of others with Morgellons swear that it was propagated through chemtrails. Her ultimate solution, after trying everything else under the sun, was the pHenominal water and alkaline skin gel. Although I do not have Morgellons, I suffered all summer with a mysterious skin infection that was systemic. The allopathic doctors and naturopath i went to were stumped on the diagnosis and their treatments were expensive and useless. The pHenominal treatment, because it corrects the pH in the entire body stopped the problem instantly. www.mrsa30day.com
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FF, I've been following chemtrails since before Clifford Carnicom got into it.
Back when Will Thomas was the only one coordinating the gathering of the goop and getting lab analysis. Back then, I guess it has to have been 10 to 15 years ago, folks who were subject to this spraying, Texas and California, were jamming the hospital emergency rooms with mysterious diseases. It was a while before they figured out that it was the mycoplasma (Dr. Russell Blaylock figured that out) and there were many deaths. They change the ingredients of the spray according to what they want to do, but the delivery system stays in place. Yes. I read both posts. This is why health maintenance involves much more vigilance and individual responsibility than ever before. Our old systems are no longer reliable. Regular cleansing and heavy metal chelation are a necessity anymore.


Thank you Tutu....wish more were aware! Am so amazed when in public and the skies are grided and I mention to a passer-by "look at those nasty chemtrails" and their response is Blank stare or "what? What is a chemtrail"...makes me sad.
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Me three.
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My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)



yeah, that. that makes no sense.

simply b/c the people you are talking about, (me for example) do NOT go home and put stuff on THEIR CHILDREN, who do not HAVE a blood brain barrier, at least not one that is fully developed. putting a little lotion on your skin is not even minutely comparable to inhaling aluminum particles.


It's the 1 in TWENTY children born today who struggle with autism spectrum disorders that are paying the price for heavy metal toxicity...not you and I who have a fully developed immune system and a fully developed blood brain barrier.
 Quoting: cinderella


That's just another testament to the pervasive toxicity of the environment and products promoted. Autism has been connected to vaccines in children. You can blame Big Pharma, IMO.
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My point - stop spending so much time worrying about how TPTB are poisoning you - and start understanding that they achieve this by getting YOU to poison yourself with your diet and lifestyle.

(Soz Tutu - not directed at you or Bevvy - your post triggered a favourite rant of mine.)


yeah, that. that makes no sense.

simply b/c the people you are talking about, (me for example) do NOT go home and put stuff on THEIR CHILDREN, who do not HAVE a blood brain barrier, at least not one that is fully developed. putting a little lotion on your skin is not even minutely comparable to inhaling aluminum particles.


It's the 1 in TWENTY children born today who struggle with autism spectrum disorders that are paying the price for heavy metal toxicity...not you and I who have a fully developed immune system and a fully developed blood brain barrier.
 Quoting: cinderella


Cinderella-
I read it a different way, more like do what YOU have control over personally, not that one was more important than the other. IMO
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Hmmm...


10-26-10 SoS Clinton, Defense Sec Robert Gates leaves US- for 2 week Asia Pacific region tour

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