Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

That reminds me of when I was in this little pub in Italy and these three chicks sat down at my table and...........

Wait,that wasn't me it was someone else. nevermind

I'm just curious why any person should be so passionate about a conversation between other persons, which is none of your concern.There are millions of people conversing all over the planet; why do you care that they shut up? They aren't doing it in your hearing; you need not listen. Can you understand that? Little psychotic, aren't you?

Ya think?

No shit!! Just the other day I was talkin to myself and I kept buttin in

The DGI DH insists that we must take the air today.

I'll be out of doom-range for a number of hours. Will try to hook back up later today.

Till then!

The telescope will be looking for neutrinos from the most violent astrophysical sources, such as star explosions, gamma ray bursts, and cataclysmic phenomena involving black holes and neutron stars.

Neutrinos are the smallest known subatomic particles, which became a subject of research in the 1950s. Neutrinos travel at near the speed of light and are so tiny that they can usually pass through solid matter without colliding with atoms.

The IceCube telescope will be equipped with some 5,000 Digital Optical Modules buried under the ice at depths of 1.4-2.5 km. (how do they place them there?)

The modules will transmit experimental data for 25 years.

The pay sucks but I love this job.

OK, why would the subs be having such a problem with this stuff, yet the ROV's seem to be swimming in it and are doing ok? Unless it is the cargo itself which is drawing said fibers to the hull? I don't see how anything biologic could be able to transmit some sort of homing/drawing beacon. What is the freaking cargo!?

Also, how many folk are the usual compliment for a sub? We now have 8 dead, 3 (I think) already transported off several days ago, so they are down 11 men? Anyone w/ experience in this area know if this is credible for sub operations?

understood watcher. magnetic hull? what is the benefit of this?

Found my confirmation of why they are claiming it is an oil spill...

Territorial waters only extend to 12 miles from the shore, but the Exclusive Economic Zone extends to 200 miles.

Apparently I am late to the game, this deep seabed mining issue has been around for decades and the UN has had conventions based solely on this issue. It all makes sense now though, why all the foreign ships in the Gulf, why Obama refused access... THEY KNOW WHAT IS UP. The other countries aren't fooled by this 'oil spill' and it also makes sense why they would use military to protect the site. The US and BP know they are deep shit for this.

[link to www.whoi.edu]

To regulate seafloor mining, in 1994 the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea spawned the International Seabed Authority, or ISA, an independent treaty organization. It has jurisdiction over the seabed outside the exclusive economic zones that surround nations’ shorelines—an area it efficiently calls The Area. The term refers only to the seafloor, not to the waters above it (they’re called the “high seas” in legal parlance). The rules dictate that the ISA make licensing decisions and, remarkably, that a portion of all profits from mining in The Area be used to benefit the world’s developing countries.

ahhhh, radar can't detect them then?

I am the harbringer of doom and ice cream. The sub sandwich has plenty of meat on it to hot seat the controls. Not to worry. But if they start losing them at a greater rate soon, then ....

Here is info on the magnetization and demagnetization of sub hulls. It is NOT in stick figure form :)

[link to books.google.com]

If it is a Class 212 sub (which by the way is pretty much the same sub that the French are using) it has a compliment of 27, 5 officers 22 enlisted. And the German version has an 'antimagnetic' hull.. Hmmm.

Last Edited by RenegadeSon on 07/04/2010 02:27 PM

sub hulls are hydrophobic by design to better hydrodynamics thus fuel efficiency/speed

maybe thats why the fibers are attracted to the hull

Actually being magnetic is bad, so they run degaussers over the hull and the newer boats have them built in. Magnetic is bad.

What we have here gentlemen is a space compression/decompression device. It could be used to cause what you call gravity to put pressure on a large land or subsea area. If damaged and forced out of alignment, the spurious radiation and motion displacment even on a molecular level would be very bad. The body will only last so long. If the crew is losing weight fast, that is a clue.

A true doomsday weapon. Dangerous as hell.

Fiction or fact

The mad hatter wants to know.

Stop it!! You're scaring the kids,dammit

From what I can gather, the metals used in the hull + travelling through seawater + earth's natural magnetic pull + propulsion system creates the magnetization of a sub.

NOW, what is causing the DEmagnetization and resultin corrosion is the $64K question.

an omega-3 fatty acids straight bellybutton concert sounds less than good. Leaving with full hookers is interesting. Wonder where the sandwich and hookers are going?

Have to run, have a family thing, be back in a few hours.

critical situation with hull ... . ,
hull demagnetizing issues getting irreversible , crew feeling disorientated, do isotope readings on ports side where the metallic fiber flocking was worst and growing

(polkadots = SE)

Demagnetising subs

[link to www.phys.unsw.edu.au]

To make the situation even more tricky, often it is desirable to actually set a particular magnetism into the hull of the vessel. This is done with the intention of having a permanent magnetism in the ship or submarine that will automatically oppose the induced magnetism (from the Earth’s magnetic field) at the zone of operation. This scenario places an even greater demand on the skill and specific knowledge of those scientists and technicians operating the equipment.

The aim of my PhD project was to bring a more scientific approach to the problem. In doing so I have looked at various theories of magnetism in materials and also constructed a scale model of the Navy’s magnetic treatment facility (MTF) where deperms are performed. Investigations included: looking at how the shape of a ship or submarine determines how it gets magnetised; how much influence magnetic cargo has on the vessel’s magnetism and, most importantly, scientific alternatives to the present deperm process. One possible alternative was tested on the model MTF in the lab. It was actually based on the way media like computer disks are bulk erased in the magnetic recording industry. This process is known to physicists as “anhysteretic magnetisation”.

Someone logging into this thread,not being fully aware of my role here,well...they are goin to think I'm crazy.

And I'm apt to agree with them.

It's OK. We'll vouch for ya ;) And in the meantime, we should further the discussion on banana pudding and omega-s fatty acids and hookers.

Didn't opie say info was on 30 hour delay? Wonder if we are now current or more is coming?

you'r not crazy. It's the resto f us that have gone off the deep end. You're fine. One lump or two with your cup of oil?

Have a feeling there is much more.

and the why not

I wonder if dragging the hookers to another area is a good idea...

The ROV's are not magnetised themselves ... the sub are !

Magnetisme + magnetisme gives problems ...

It is not only the cargo ... it is the combination of the water being magnetised, the compounds in the water that may be magnetised or magnetical, the subs that use magnetisation

"This is done with the intention of having a permanent magnetism in the ship or submarine that will automatically oppose the induced magnetism (from the Earth’s magnetic field) at the zone of operation."

"how much influence magnetic cargo has on the vessel’s magnetism and, most importantly, scientific alternatives to the present deperm process"

"If you want to donate a particular magnetism, then you have to have some additional magnetic field, applied over and above the alternating fields, throughout the anhysteretic magnetisation. This will bias the final magnetisation to a value that is purely a function of the additional magnetic field."
[link to www.phys.unsw.edu.au]