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Greenpeace is on the move. Yessss.


"Since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded and sank in April, BP has devoted inadequate resources to the oil spill response, withheld information from the American public, and denied access to spill sites to journalists. So our ship the Arctic Sunrise is heading to the Gulf to do an independent assessment of the impacts. We believe it’s way past time the full, unabridged truth about the extent and nature of this oil catastrophe was told to America and the world."

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I wonder if GP knows what they are getting into...

Thanks RenegadeSon for expl.
8/13/2010 2:06 PM
Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Can you fill in a few more potholes for me please?

1. More recent OP post said that Israeli 'crew' were coming out on board... 12 prisoner crew and 5 in control... 2 assumed dead on body bags... How do you read this was US rogues? Do you mean rogues dressed as spies in the Israeli crew?

2. Back track... so Missouri is a US rogue... not complying with Odessa protocol? They are in possession of the ' GCP thing'? Have successfully quarantined it? (ie. disabled the device)? So, are they the good guys? Does that mean Odessa is up to no good?

3. Is the device owned (made by)by the Odessa alliance? Are the Israeli's playing according to Odessa rules... or are they breakaway unto themselves? And did the Missouri thwart some kind of detonation plan by Israelis?

4. Are the French playing 'Odessa' or 'breakaway' together with US rogues? ie. not the US (other side) that sunk sub.

Have these answers already been established... or still unfolding?
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Greenpeace is on the move. Yessss.


"Since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded and sank in April, BP has devoted inadequate resources to the oil spill response, withheld information from the American public, and denied access to spill sites to journalists. So our ship the Arctic Sunrise is heading to the Gulf to do an independent assessment of the impacts. We believe it’s way past time the full, unabridged truth about the extent and nature of this oil catastrophe was told to America and the world."

[link to www.greenpeace.org]


I wonder if GP knows what they are getting into...

Thanks RenegadeSon for expl.
8/13/2010 2:06 PM
Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

Can you fill in a few more potholes for me please?

1. More recent OP post said that Israeli 'crew' were coming out on board... 12 prisoner crew and 5 in control... 2 assumed dead on body bags... How do you read this was US rogues? Do you mean rogues dressed as spies in the Israeli crew?

2. Back track... so Missouri is a US rogue... not complying with Odessa protocol? They are in possession of the ' GCP thing'? Have successfully quarantined it? (ie. disabled the device)? So, are they the good guys? Does that mean Odessa is up to no good?

3. Is the device owned (made by)by the Odessa alliance? Are the Israeli's playing according to Odessa rules... or are they breakaway unto themselves? And did the Missouri thwart some kind of detonation plan by Israelis?

4. Are the French playing 'Odessa' or 'breakaway' together with US rogues? ie. not the US (other side) that sunk sub.

Have these answers already been established... or still unfolding?
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Prolly have to go back about 40 pages and you will be clearer on some of these questions.
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Can you fill in a few more potholes for me please?

1. More recent OP post said that Israeli 'crew' were coming out on board... 12 prisoner crew and 5 in control... 2 assumed dead on body bags... How do you read this was US rogues? Do you mean rogues dressed as spies in the Israeli crew?

2. Back track... so Missouri is a US rogue... not complying with Odessa protocol? They are in possession of the ' GCP thing'? Have successfully quarantined it? (ie. disabled the device)? So, are they the good guys? Does that mean Odessa is up to no good?

3. Is the device owned (made by)by the Odessa alliance? Are the Israeli's playing according to Odessa rules... or are they breakaway unto themselves? And did the Missouri thwart some kind of detonation plan by Israelis?

4. Are the French playing 'Odessa' or 'breakaway' together with US rogues? ie. not the US (other side) that sunk sub.

Have these answers already been established... or still unfolding?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1069391



How about you go back and read the OP's posts and tell US what you think is going on.

We have no answers - we have the same info in front of us as you do.

It is still unfolding.
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Thanks and eternal gratitude goes to the brave crew of the USCGC Decisive (WMEC-629) and the Olympic Challenger for removing the immediate threat to deeper waters. You are rare heros in this day and age of traitors, spies and turn-coats.

May God bless you and your families a thousand fold for your loyalty and personal sacrifices.

Make sure everyone backs these boys & girls! For there's few of them remaining.
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Thanks and eternal gratitude goes to the brave crew of the USCGC Decisive (WMEC-629) and the Olympic Challenger for removing the immediate threat to deeper waters. You are rare heros in this day and age of traitors, spies and turn-coats.

May God bless you and your families a thousand fold for your loyalty and personal sacrifices.

Make sure everyone backs these HEROES! For there's few of them remaining.
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Thanks and eternal gratitude goes to the brave crew of the USCGC Decisive (WMEC-629) and the Olympic Challenger for removing the immediate threat to deeper waters. You are rare heros in this day and age of traitors, spies and turn-coats.

May God bless you and your families a thousand fold for your loyalty and personal sacrifices.

Make sure everyone backs these boys & girls! For there's few of them remaining.
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You mean this one with its crew? [link to www.uscg.mil]
and "Olympic Challenger" - a Norwegian surface vessel capable to support subsea installations etc.
[link to www.sulphurdailynews.com]

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How about you go back and read the OP's posts and tell US what you think is going on.

We have no answers - we have the same info in front of us as you do.

It is still unfolding.
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An imaginative perspective of the Gulf situation based on OP’s messages, various reports and some of the limited information available to the US public:

Oil companies, with the knowledge of US officials, have been experimenting with new energy research in the Gulf. Nano-tech may be involved.

Israel has been secretly developing the “Sampson Option” to force a piece of the continental shelf to break off for the purpose of causing great damage to the US coast. We know that US Navy operatives are on board an Israeli super-sub. This takes planning and the infiltration would have had to occur well before the oil spill.

Permits for the Macondo wells were issued last year and subsequently drilling started. BP oil has been acting as a drilling cover for the Israeli operation and hitting the oil reservoir was not intentional. BP made an initial effort to cap the well, which was unsuccessful because the seabed was cracked.

February 13th BP officials notified the US Government the well head was out of control.

February 15th, the US Department of Defense made public its decision to allow BP to stop the oil flow and take charge of the spill recovery effort. The government does not have equipment or expertise for the project, and the corporate effort is required to hold the DoD harmless.

The publicized plan was to drill relief well “B” to siphon off the oil and cap Well “A.” BP had not told that the seabed was cracked.

We do not know when BP began spraying Corexit to submerge the oil into underwater plumes and also, possibly for the purpose of magnetizing the oil plumes.

Secretly (without official US consent), BP staged a blowout of relief well “B” to explain the oil spill to the public so they would not have to tell the seabed was cracked.

SeaWorld in Florida was contacted and Dawn Brancheau, 40, an experienced whale trainer at the tourist attraction, trained Shamu to carry an explosive charge to the Deepwater Horizon Rig. SeaWorld and the trainer were not told the true purpose of the training.

February 23, Shamu received instruction to “grab and dive” and drowned Dawn Brancheau in front of the SeaWorld spectators. Shamu was moved to a holding location.
[link to abcnews.go.com]

The Deepwater Horizon rig was set for the sabotage. The “high holy” day of April 19th, both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld we seen on the rig.

April 20th, a rig worker “jarred” the drilling handle breaking up part of the drilling apparatus according to rig engineer “Mike” on 60 Minutes. This breakup made installing a BOP extremely difficult.

Shamu carried an explosive charge to the rig on a suicide mission and 11 rig workers were killed in the explosion. Later, Shamu’s burned and charred body is found floating in the oil spill area of the Gulf of Mexico.

Sinking of the DH rig was forced by excessive use of water cannons which filled the ballast tanks.

BP in charge had total control of media and public access to the crime scene.

Complicent officials of various US agencies shut down, or failed to publish vital testing and other information which could help protect Coastal residents.

BP stalls the fix of the second well (B) giving Israel time to continue with the Sampson project. Other countries are alarmed that the US is not accepting assistance with the oil spill. Various countries become pro-active in GOM for intelligence purposes.

June 26th, OP posts on glp “Something went BEZERK…” and we get the story of the French submarine. Several posts later, we learn that many countries have subs in the GOM playing cat-and-mouse. There is concern about a micro-organism which has morphing ability. We do not know if the organism is natural and let loose from the frozen floor of the seabed, or if it is nano-tech from energy research.

French ship, and others, have difficulty with the organism. Russia sends help in the form of a calibrator which can be fitted onboard. Russia appears to have prior experience with the organism, possibly from Lake Vostok research, or with nano-bots. We don’t know.

46 US Navy ships and several thousand sailors are pulled from the Gulf area and sent to Costa Rica.

Sealife is dying off for lack of oxygen and the Gulf Loop is broken which will prevent warm Gulf waters from reaching Europe in the winter. Oil is falling with the rain in Southeast USA. Beaches have oil and tarballs landing. Gulf Coast residents are getting sick and some are hemorrhaging.

OP reports that various countries have agreed to ODESSA protocols for the Gulf.

Oil spill site is declared a crime scene and OP reports there is blocking of some vessels, Possible BP is being blocked from removing evidence.

The US Navy sends its newest nuclear submarine, Missouri into Atlantic duty and OP reports that its destination may be the Gulf.

OP reports that Israel has a super-sub in the Gulf which can dive lower than any of the other submarines and it becomes somehow “blocked” in GOM by other submarines.

OP reports four theatres of activity. We are not sure of the locations.

OP reports organism has been contained. Missouri then reports it is “excepting” the protocol. The US Navy is agreeing to the protocol. This could mean that the Missouri is on its way to other waters.

OP reports that US Navy Operatives onboard the Israeli submarine have signaled that the Sampson option has been disabled.

The Samson option may have been intended to initiate WIII.
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How about you go back and read the OP's posts and tell US what you think is going on.

We have no answers - we have the same info in front of us as you do.

It is still unfolding.



An imaginative perspective of the Gulf situation based on OP’s messages, various reports and some of the limited information available to the US public:

Oil companies, with the knowledge of US officials, have been experimenting with new energy research in the Gulf. Nano-tech may be involved.

Israel has been secretly developing the “Sampson Option” to force a piece of the continental shelf to break off for the purpose of causing great damage to the US coast. We know that US Navy operatives are on board an Israeli super-sub. This takes planning and the infiltration would have had to occur well before the oil spill.

Permits for the Macondo wells were issued last year and subsequently drilling started. BP oil has been acting as a drilling cover for the Israeli operation and hitting the oil reservoir was not intentional. BP made an initial effort to cap the well, which was unsuccessful because the seabed was cracked.

February 13th BP officials notified the US Government the well head was out of control.

February 15th, the US Department of Defense made public its decision to allow BP to stop the oil flow and take charge of the spill recovery effort. The government does not have equipment or expertise for the project, and the corporate effort is required to hold the DoD harmless.

The publicized plan was to drill relief well “B” to siphon off the oil and cap Well “A.” BP had not told that the seabed was cracked.

We do not know when BP began spraying Corexit to submerge the oil into underwater plumes and also, possibly for the purpose of magnetizing the oil plumes.

Secretly (without official US consent), BP staged a blowout of relief well “B” to explain the oil spill to the public so they would not have to tell the seabed was cracked.

SeaWorld in Florida was contacted and Dawn Brancheau, 40, an experienced whale trainer at the tourist attraction, trained Shamu to carry an explosive charge to the Deepwater Horizon Rig. SeaWorld and the trainer were not told the true purpose of the training.

February 23, Shamu received instruction to “grab and dive” and drowned Dawn Brancheau in front of the SeaWorld spectators. Shamu was moved to a holding location.
[link to abcnews.go.com]

The Deepwater Horizon rig was set for the sabotage. The “high holy” day of April 19th, both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld we seen on the rig.

April 20th, a rig worker “jarred” the drilling handle breaking up part of the drilling apparatus according to rig engineer “Mike” on 60 Minutes. This breakup made installing a BOP extremely difficult.

Shamu carried an explosive charge to the rig on a suicide mission and 11 rig workers were killed in the explosion. Later, Shamu’s burned and charred body is found floating in the oil spill area of the Gulf of Mexico.

Sinking of the DH rig was forced by excessive use of water cannons which filled the ballast tanks.

BP in charge had total control of media and public access to the crime scene.

Complicent officials of various US agencies shut down, or failed to publish vital testing and other information which could help protect Coastal residents.

BP stalls the fix of the second well (B) giving Israel time to continue with the Sampson project. Other countries are alarmed that the US is not accepting assistance with the oil spill. Various countries become pro-active in GOM for intelligence purposes.

June 26th, OP posts on glp “Something went BEZERK…” and we get the story of the French submarine. Several posts later, we learn that many countries have subs in the GOM playing cat-and-mouse. There is concern about a micro-organism which has morphing ability. We do not know if the organism is natural and let loose from the frozen floor of the seabed, or if it is nano-tech from energy research.

French ship, and others, have difficulty with the organism. Russia sends help in the form of a calibrator which can be fitted onboard. Russia appears to have prior experience with the organism, possibly from Lake Vostok research, or with nano-bots. We don’t know.

46 US Navy ships and several thousand sailors are pulled from the Gulf area and sent to Costa Rica.

Sealife is dying off for lack of oxygen and the Gulf Loop is broken which will prevent warm Gulf waters from reaching Europe in the winter. Oil is falling with the rain in Southeast USA. Beaches have oil and tarballs landing. Gulf Coast residents are getting sick and some are hemorrhaging.

OP reports that various countries have agreed to ODESSA protocols for the Gulf.

Oil spill site is declared a crime scene and OP reports there is blocking of some vessels, Possible BP is being blocked from removing evidence.

The US Navy sends its newest nuclear submarine, Missouri into Atlantic duty and OP reports that its destination may be the Gulf.

OP reports that Israel has a super-sub in the Gulf which can dive lower than any of the other submarines and it becomes somehow “blocked” in GOM by other submarines.

OP reports four theatres of activity. We are not sure of the locations.

OP reports organism has been contained. Missouri then reports it is “excepting” the protocol. The US Navy is agreeing to the protocol. This could mean that the Missouri is on its way to other waters.

OP reports that US Navy Operatives onboard the Israeli submarine have signaled that the Sampson option has been disabled.

The Samson option may have been intended to initiate WIII.
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Yep, that seems about right...


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How about you go back and read the OP's posts and tell US what you think is going on.

We have no answers - we have the same info in front of us as you do.

It is still unfolding.



An imaginative perspective of the Gulf situation based on OP’s messages, various reports and some of the limited information available to the US public:

Oil companies, with the knowledge of US officials, have been experimenting with new energy research in the Gulf. Nano-tech may be involved.

Israel has been secretly developing the “Sampson Option” to force a piece of the continental shelf to break off for the purpose of causing great damage to the US coast. We know that US Navy operatives are on board an Israeli super-sub. This takes planning and the infiltration would have had to occur well before the oil spill.

Permits for the Macondo wells were issued last year and subsequently drilling started. BP oil has been acting as a drilling cover for the Israeli operation and hitting the oil reservoir was not intentional. BP made an initial effort to cap the well, which was unsuccessful because the seabed was cracked.

February 13th BP officials notified the US Government the well head was out of control.

February 15th, the US Department of Defense made public its decision to allow BP to stop the oil flow and take charge of the spill recovery effort. The government does not have equipment or expertise for the project, and the corporate effort is required to hold the DoD harmless.

The publicized plan was to drill relief well “B” to siphon off the oil and cap Well “A.” BP had not told that the seabed was cracked.

We do not know when BP began spraying Corexit to submerge the oil into underwater plumes and also, possibly for the purpose of magnetizing the oil plumes.

Secretly (without official US consent), BP staged a blowout of relief well “B” to explain the oil spill to the public so they would not have to tell the seabed was cracked.

SeaWorld in Florida was contacted and Dawn Brancheau, 40, an experienced whale trainer at the tourist attraction, trained Shamu to carry an explosive charge to the Deepwater Horizon Rig. SeaWorld and the trainer were not told the true purpose of the training.

February 23, Shamu received instruction to “grab and dive” and drowned Dawn Brancheau in front of the SeaWorld spectators. Shamu was moved to a holding location.
[link to abcnews.go.com]

The Deepwater Horizon rig was set for the sabotage. The “high holy” day of April 19th, both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld we seen on the rig.

April 20th, a rig worker “jarred” the drilling handle breaking up part of the drilling apparatus according to rig engineer “Mike” on 60 Minutes. This breakup made installing a BOP extremely difficult.

Shamu carried an explosive charge to the rig on a suicide mission and 11 rig workers were killed in the explosion. Later, Shamu’s burned and charred body is found floating in the oil spill area of the Gulf of Mexico.

Sinking of the DH rig was forced by excessive use of water cannons which filled the ballast tanks.

BP in charge had total control of media and public access to the crime scene.

Complicent officials of various US agencies shut down, or failed to publish vital testing and other information which could help protect Coastal residents.

BP stalls the fix of the second well (B) giving Israel time to continue with the Sampson project. Other countries are alarmed that the US is not accepting assistance with the oil spill. Various countries become pro-active in GOM for intelligence purposes.

June 26th, OP posts on glp “Something went BEZERK…” and we get the story of the French submarine. Several posts later, we learn that many countries have subs in the GOM playing cat-and-mouse. There is concern about a micro-organism which has morphing ability. We do not know if the organism is natural and let loose from the frozen floor of the seabed, or if it is nano-tech from energy research.

French ship, and others, have difficulty with the organism. Russia sends help in the form of a calibrator which can be fitted onboard. Russia appears to have prior experience with the organism, possibly from Lake Vostok research, or with nano-bots. We don’t know.

46 US Navy ships and several thousand sailors are pulled from the Gulf area and sent to Costa Rica.

Sealife is dying off for lack of oxygen and the Gulf Loop is broken which will prevent warm Gulf waters from reaching Europe in the winter. Oil is falling with the rain in Southeast USA. Beaches have oil and tarballs landing. Gulf Coast residents are getting sick and some are hemorrhaging.

OP reports that various countries have agreed to ODESSA protocols for the Gulf.

Oil spill site is declared a crime scene and OP reports there is blocking of some vessels, Possible BP is being blocked from removing evidence.

The US Navy sends its newest nuclear submarine, Missouri into Atlantic duty and OP reports that its destination may be the Gulf.

OP reports that Israel has a super-sub in the Gulf which can dive lower than any of the other submarines and it becomes somehow “blocked” in GOM by other submarines.

OP reports four theatres of activity. We are not sure of the locations.

OP reports organism has been contained. Missouri then reports it is “excepting” the protocol. The US Navy is agreeing to the protocol. This could mean that the Missouri is on its way to other waters.

OP reports that US Navy Operatives onboard the Israeli submarine have signaled that the Sampson option has been disabled.

The Samson option may have been intended to initiate WIII.
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I'd say that filled a few potholes...
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OP reports that Israel has a super-sub in the Gulf which can dive lower than any of the other submarines and it becomes somehow “blocked” in GOM by other submarines.

OP reports four theatres of activity. We are not sure of the locations.

OP reports organism has been contained. Missouri then reports it is “excepting” the protocol. The US Navy is agreeing to the protocol. This could mean that the Missouri is on its way to other waters.

OP reports that US Navy Operatives onboard the Israeli submarine have signaled that the Sampson option has been disabled.

The Samson option may have been intended to initiate WIII.

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Valid assumptions - given the ambiguous nature of much of the information available.

I have a couple of slightly differing options to throw in:

- the 'problem/organism/ from down there (in the GoM), has either arisen 'naturally' as a result of sea-floor changes; or caused by man, ie sonic drilling, or both. This organism has definitely been encountered before by the Russians. (They have had a few strange sub accidents over the last decade or two).

- other info suggests the Russians, around June 20, gave technology and info to various assets - which can be used to protect vessels from whatever it is, and further, which could 'fix' the problem. My take is that the Russians consider whatever it is to be a global threat. Info suggests that the Russians basically gave the Americans 101 days (ends Sept 30) to fix the problem with this new tech/info - else they will come in and do it themselves with whoever else was aboard the agreement/protocols. It would appear that the Russians certainly have the agreement of various nations on this.

- the 'Israeli' sub was clearly NOT acting in concert with the other nations' vessels. I suspect it was a 'black' sub, which has the ability to give off any 'call sign' of any nation it wanted, within reason. This could explain the presence of other nation's special forces units aboard. Maybe this mission was so sensitive that they were all keeping an eye on each other?
I suspect that this 'Israeli' sub - was there on behalf of the non-US Navy part of the Govt - with its own option/technology to 'fix the problem'. Maybe it was going to do something more drastic to stop whatever the problem was - hence the Samsom Option reference. Options here range from some super secret weapons technology (likely); to blowing itself up to plug a gap/kill the problem (who knows).

- it would appear that the Americans, who have been holding out from coming aboard this agreement/protocol - have just recently 'come aboard'. But - I notice that it seems to be the US Navy that has accepted the protocols - does this automatically imply the US Govt? Given that the US Navy is a virtual entity unto itself, and that it has been openly discussed by the French on the DED channels that it would consider a coup against the rest of the USA if martial law was declared - maybe only the US Navy is 'aboard', and not the rest of the US? I wonder whether they came into agreement after this most recent 'Israeli' sub incident; or before it. I'd say that information was obtained down there by that sub - which lead to decisions being made, which lead to a change in plans, so to speak, for the sub. This would explain the fight amongst the crew on the sub.

- sooo - does this mean the Americans or Russians are STILL going to 'nuke/whatever' it is down there that worries them all so much? Will the technology being used to 'fix' the problem be detrimental to the local inhabitants of the GoM? If so, would they be told to evacuate? Or does somebody desire another disaster to use - say for martial law and tightening the grip on the public - in which case they would not be told. Looking at Obama and his kids swimming in the gulf, and eating the local seafood - I'm thinking that there is no plan to move people out of that area at all. Far from it.

or maybe the whole organism/splash zone problem in the GoM will be fixed without anybody in the public (except for GLPers) even knowing the situation existed in the first place.

Through the posts of the OP, we have had a very limited and narrow glimpse of another layer of what goes on behind the scenes. How nations and factions will cooperate on some things, then, with a sudden change of information - are competing with deadly force. We see how much activity happens which never makes mainstream news.

One has to wonder, how many other potentially HUGE situations like this have come and gone in the past - and we never heard a twinkle about any of it?

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OP reports that Israel has a super-sub in the Gulf which can dive lower than any of the other submarines and it becomes somehow “blocked” in GOM by other submarines.

OP reports four theatres of activity. We are not sure of the locations.

OP reports organism has been contained. Missouri then reports it is “excepting” the protocol. The US Navy is agreeing to the protocol. This could mean that the Missouri is on its way to other waters.

OP reports that US Navy Operatives onboard the Israeli submarine have signaled that the Sampson option has been disabled.

The Samson option may have been intended to initiate WIII.




Valid assumptions - given the ambiguous nature of much of the information available.

I have a couple of slightly differing options to throw in:

- the 'problem/organism/ from down there (in the GoM), has either arisen 'naturally' as a result of sea-floor changes; or caused by man, ie sonic drilling, or both. This organism has definitely been encountered before by the Russians. (They have had a few strange sub accidents over the last decade or two).

- other info suggests the Russians, around June 20, gave technology and info to various assets - which can be used to protect vessels from whatever it is, and further, which could 'fix' the problem. My take is that the Russians consider whatever it is to be a global threat. Info suggests that the Russians basically gave the Americans 101 days (ends Sept 30) to fix the problem with this new tech/info - else they will come in and do it themselves with whoever else was aboard the agreement/protocols. It would appear that the Russians certainly have the agreement of various nations on this.

- the 'Israeli' sub was clearly NOT acting in concert with the other nations' vessels. I suspect it was a 'black' sub, which has the ability to give off any 'call sign' of any nation it wanted, within reason. This could explain the presence of other nation's special forces units aboard. Maybe this mission was so sensitive that they were all keeping an eye on each other?
I suspect that this 'Israeli' sub - was there on behalf of the non-US Navy part of the Govt - with its own option/technology to 'fix the problem'. Maybe it was going to do something more drastic to stop whatever the problem was - hence the Samsom Option reference. Options here range from some super secret weapons technology (likely); to blowing itself up to plug a gap/kill the problem (who knows).

- it would appear that the Americans, who have been holding out from coming aboard this agreement/protocol - have just recently 'come aboard'. But - I notice that it seems to be the US Navy that has accepted the protocols - does this automatically imply the US Govt? Given that the US Navy is a virtual entity unto itself, and that it has been openly discussed by the French on the DED channels that it would consider a coup against the rest of the USA if martial law was declared - maybe only the US Navy is 'aboard', and not the rest of the US? I wonder whether they came into agreement after this most recent 'Israeli' sub incident; or before it. I'd say that information was obtained down there by that sub - which lead to decisions being made, which lead to a change in plans, so to speak, for the sub. This would explain the fight amongst the crew on the sub.

- sooo - does this mean the Americans or Russians are STILL going to 'nuke/whatever' it is down there that worries them all so much? Will the technology being used to 'fix' the problem be detrimental to the local inhabitants of the GoM? If so, would they be told to evacuate? Or does somebody desire another disaster to use - say for martial law and tightening the grip on the public - in which case they would not be told. Looking at Obama and his kids swimming in the gulf, and eating the local seafood - I'm thinking that there is no plan to move people out of that area at all. Far from it.

or maybe the whole organism/splash zone problem in the GoM will be fixed without anybody in the public (except for GLPers) even knowing the situation existed in the first place.

Through the posts of the OP, we have had a very limited and narrow glimpse of another layer of what goes on behind the scenes. How nations and factions will cooperate on some things, then, with a sudden change of information - are competing with deadly force. We see how much activity happens which never makes mainstream news.

One has to wonder, how many other potentially HUGE situations like this have come and gone in the past - and we never heard a twinkle about any of it?

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Yes, Nexuseditor... I agree that the US contingent is 'split'... So the pieces on the board are: Russians-Europeans (Odessa)... US - two parts ... black ops sub disguised as Israeli (maybe)... and a monster from the deep with the Greenpeace cavalry coming to save the day.. Sorry, I didn't mean to trivialise... Just impish humour pops out sometimes.

And most seem to agree that BeePee is the fall guy to do the dirty oily work... Too many holes/cracks... not enough fingers to plug them. I read they have the technology to see the huge methane bubble chamber from satellite... They have sonic technology to map floor/crust layers... Experts have commented how dangerous and risky it was to drill so deep and near these 'fluid' zones/shelves.

So... what is the agenda? Some commented to split off shelf... But wouldn't that mean the shelf is unsupported or weak underneath (maybe hollow) If that's right... then why split off shelf? Why change land masses? Who benefits?

If Europe freezes over... needs more oil/gas... and Iran has plenty... Plus talk by US about nuking Iran? And lots of opposition from China, Russia-Europe on that one. Is this like a chess move where you distract Russia-Europe in GOM... for something else in the pipeline? GOM already mucked up gulf stream... Eurasia stuffed. Now if they knock over the Queen piece (Iran)... bingo... No fuel for the others.

What do you think?
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I really find this thread absurd who else finds it utterly fucking stupid?
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I really find this thread absurd who else finds it utterly fucking stupid?
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Oh, we must be on to something...
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I really find this thread absurd who else finds it utterly fucking stupid?
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Yeah, but its just so funny to read, like watching headless chickens. You know its wrong, but you have to laugh.
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I personally have found this thread to be fascinating!If it were a work of fiction OP by now would have had enough content for a magnus opus!I feel that as usual where there is smoke there is fire!For anyone who follows the WE WHO WATCH video feeds it is obvious that all is not as it is being reported by the MSM.No fly zones,and fines have been imposed to dissuade the curious minds and strident view points have been silenced even permanantly!This is scary stuff which would be accepted in the communist block but IT IS HAPPENING right here in the LAND OF the so-called FREE!!!!!!!Yes something is BADLY WRONG down there and I believe that this thread has attempted to shine a light on it!Thanks for the recent posts that have very nicely summed up the action so far!For those that havn't noticed this thread has continued on and off the front page and mostly without a pin for several weeks.As I said before there is no smoke without fire.............
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I personally have found this thread to be fascinating!If it were a work of fiction OP by now would have had enough content for a magnus opus!I feel that as usual where there is smoke there is fire!For anyone who follows the WE WHO WATCH video feeds it is obvious that all is not as it is being reported by the MSM.No fly zones,and fines have been imposed to dissuade the curious minds and strident view points have been silenced even permanantly!This is scary stuff which would be accepted in the communist block but IT IS HAPPENING right here in the LAND OF the so-called FREE!!!!!!!Yes something is BADLY WRONG down there and I believe that this thread has attempted to shine a light on it!Thanks for the recent posts that have very nicely summed up the action so far!For those that havn't noticed this thread has continued on and off the front page and mostly without a pin for several weeks.As I said before there is no smoke without fire.............
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Greenpeace is on the move. Yessss.


"Since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded and sank in April, BP has devoted inadequate resources to the oil spill response, withheld information from the American public, and denied access to spill sites to journalists. So our ship the Arctic Sunrise is heading to the Gulf to do an independent assessment of the impacts. We believe it’s way past time the full, unabridged truth about the extent and nature of this oil catastrophe was told to America and the world."

[link to www.greenpeace.org]
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Hopefully we will get some truth.We have had very little so far.
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Greenpeace is on the move. Yessss.


"Since the Deepwater Horizon offshore rig exploded and sank in April, BP has devoted inadequate resources to the oil spill response, withheld information from the American public, and denied access to spill sites to journalists. So our ship the Arctic Sunrise is heading to the Gulf to do an independent assessment of the impacts. We believe it’s way past time the full, unabridged truth about the extent and nature of this oil catastrophe was told to America and the world."

[link to www.greenpeace.org]

Hopefully we will get some truth.We have had very little so far.
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Greenpeace will come to an unfortunate end if they find anything. What do you think all the subs and ships will do eh? lolz. peace
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I really find this thread absurd who else finds it utterly fucking stupid?


Yeah, but its just so funny to read, like watching headless chickens. You know its wrong, but you have to laugh.
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Thanks Nexus and Ac terrific summaries.
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I really find this thread absurd who else finds it utterly fucking stupid?


Yeah, but its just so funny to read, like watching headless chickens. You know its wrong, but you have to laugh.


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Have you really read this thread in it's entirety?Funny is not a word I personally would use to describe it!It has been very interesting and as a poster recently noted we have been afforded a glimpse into a very dark world that is playing out behind the scenes and which TPTB would like to keep hidden for various reasons primarily for control of the masses.I personally think there is some truth to it all!A poster tonight appears to have been able to place much of it in perspective.There are a couple of questions I still have though.......Does the Louisiana earthquake have a place in the course of events and remember that video of the sea floor rising and exploding after a ROV stuck it's arm into it?????Something about these two events is nagging at me........
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Thanks Nexus and Ac terrific summaries.
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I surely second that emotion!
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Jesus Christus, Nexus.

That would infer things like the CIA or God knows what organization in the the US or other government having a Black Project of huge proportions.

It still can be any other government or a covert subversive part of one.

Hell, it still could be part of the Anglo American Solution paid for by Huge finacial interests. I stil have the Georgia guidestones and other things gnawning at the back of my mind.

It fits, though, in a sick way.


I can see it now, The CIA and Homeland security put this abomination together to create a world scale disaster so they could push the takeovers via martial law and then suspend constitutions.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

If you don't have a big enough crisis to form the base of what you want, then create one.

Only a idiotic Academic IDEALIST (read socialist)would consider an insanity like that. To them, "The end justifies the means" is worth any cost that the people have to pay.


Anyone come to mind?

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Navy coup d'etat anyone?

See the OP posts for July 5th.

The Navy knows something stinks.

They have thrown a sabot into the works by calling in all the other governments navies.

Now the move of the ships to Costa Rica and the massive international naval exercises that are about to happen make sense. They have known about this crap for a while now.

Like you said, Nexus, Just because it identifies as a Israeli sub does not mean it is one.

It does take a real big leap of faith to imagine the Israelis having a sub that can do what the OP has posted. Considering that they have to get theirs from Germany.

But it is only a baby step to imagine the money and logistics of the US government being able to put a critter like that together.

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I think you are getting close. Think...Who would be that evil? dick
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One more thing.

It is really hard to imagine multiple US operatives on a Israeli Submarine. As I posted earier, that would be no mean feat.

But, Havng Navy personnel (or Navy trained) onboard a nuclear submarine run by a clandestine government agency is a logical step. The Navy has all the expertise.
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Yet another. Someone mentioned how could the operatives on board have gotten information out of the submarine that they were sabotaging the euipment.

Easy. The most secure information transmision systems are operated by the Navy. It would be Navy personnell manning the communications,

They would probably have Navy machinist mates running the reactor and turbines, Communications, Sonar, and most of the operations work of the ship.

But they would be commanded at all levels by Black Project(Clandestine Agency) personnel. How many of those personnel would there be?

The USS Virginia SSN-774 lists 14 officers and 120 enlisted.

Not so wild that they would have 12 people on the deck at gunpoint and two in body bags.

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I can see it now. Obama to Michelle: "live it up while you can, hon, Because some of those fun vacation spots are gonna be gone soon. It won't matter what they say about taking too many extravagant vacations afterward." (satire)

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