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Tex Tamale User ID: 643200 United States 09/17/2010 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | www.stormpulse.com Quoting: 1221 1093619here too: [link to www.wunderground.com] "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.." Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 566027 Netherlands 09/17/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101500by product of isotopes reaching half life and decaying to the next element through the engineering of the nano's mutating/catalysing the AUganism just thoughts Are you suggesting that heat is a by-product of half life and the decaying process of isotopes? here you can check, whether the golf at a certain location is heating up, if you trust the satellite images of course link: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov] ??? !!!! Oh, my gosh! The Gulf is cooler than the Atlantic? Am I reading that right? The only "warmish" spot in the Gulf is the oil spill? No. Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov] don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so............. Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2 Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book. It is nice to see the open exchanges on this thread. That said, come on -- 1+1=2 If it was only that site that we had as evidence, I would be suspect like you and the other poster flying Netherlands colors with the nice behind he showed me. But you know as well as I do that hurricanes only form in the GOM and the Atlantic (or cyclones in other regions) due to one main factor or ingredient in most all cases - warm water... So that link first given to that site had a date other than current, so was giving false, cooler temp info. When the date is adjusted to this month, it yes, looks like it should. It is that simple. (site + lot's of hurricanes or tropical storms)1+1=2 "Generally, a hurricane begins its formation when a storm passes over a body of 80 degree or higher water." see link to this quote below. Necessary Conditions for Hurricanes to Form 1. 80 degree, or warmer, water temperature, which is at least 150 feet deep 2. A low pressure area with wind disturbance 3. A lack of stability in the air, which allows clouds to develop 4. A centrifugal force, known as a Coriolis Force, stemming from the earth's rotation 5. Moist air, i.e., a thunderstorm, in the lower portion of the atmosphere 6. Low level winds, with directional changes, known as wind shear Read more at Suite101: How Do Hurricanes Form?: What Weather Conditions Support the Storms [link to www.suite101.com] |
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dhlos User ID: 1099426 Greece 09/17/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a very revealing story Is the window of opportunity in Russian-U.S. relations closing? It is always interesting to watch a shooting star or to see an e-mail fall from cyberspace. This time, I received an article "Changing Course in Moscow" by Jeffrey Mankoff from the upcoming September/October issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Mankoff is the author of the book "Russian Foreign Policy: The Return of Great Power Politics." There is clearly a new policy — what Mankoff calls a "dramatic shift" — as President Medvedev is the force behind the efforts to modernize the Russian economy with the help of the United States and the European Union. For former President Vladimir Putin to propose this during the presidency of George W. Bush would have been laughable. The author's argument is fairly obvious, but then he comes across an interesting thought that boils down to two words: two years. It is relationship between the United States and China that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has referred to as the most important issue in the world, followed by the Greater Middle East (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, etc.), and only then by relations between Russia and the West. a lot more here [link to en.rian.ru] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979825 Netherlands 09/17/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | general info Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825no ships appear to be in GOM at the location all the transponders off ? or they are really not there? link: [link to www.marinetraffic.com] That is interesting if true.the methane levels must have gotten too high. spend hours to look for any news. can you all try do the same. call relatives overthere? something is going on I've contacted the few I know and have had friends call and contact family/people that they know down in the Gulf area. It appears that about 95% of the population think the Gulf situation is under control because that is what they've been told. Those who continue to warn about the health issues and demand transparency are considered to be the ones who don't have reliable information. After the ABC report last week that the oil was still there, but underwater, a couple of people called acknowledging that it must be true. They wanted to know what else was going on that hadn't been told. On marinetraffic - at the GOM- I just clicked on the vessels button, chose a random vessel, clicked on that. Takes you to a bunch of ships all nestled up behind Lake Pontchartrain...but none IN the GOM. Don't you find that most of those are tugs in port, and not ocean-going ships? It's been like that since the end of August. Can't confirm or deny history. I do see quite a few tankers and cargo vessels (ocean-going ships) anchored toward the right of the screen. Seems like the hurricane issue could be in play. can you give me a link which hurricane(s) you are talking about and threatening the watertraffic, in the Golf? please can you answer the question? |
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childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/17/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ships appear to be moving further inland. Four tankers anchored South of Lake Ponchetrain. Quoting: childoflightI have just checked again and three of the tankers appear to have vanished!!!!!! What the heck is going on. At the time of my post there were four RED squares!!! No doubt about it!!!!!!!! Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101527 Japan 09/17/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Tex Tamale Showing NOTHING near Tampa and Louisiana! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979825 Netherlands 09/17/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ships appear to be moving further inland. Four tankers anchored South of Lake Ponchetrain. Quoting: childoflightI have just checked again and three of the tankers appear to have vanished!!!!!! What the heck is going on. At the time of my post there were four RED squares!!! No doubt about it!!!!!!!! since I wrote about marinetraffic and zero ships I got banned from a site in holland ?????? please note that Dutch chills can live in this site too:)) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101527 Japan 09/17/2010 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: 1221 1093619 At the link the mapping shows that Louisiana has more shipping traffic than Houston, historically. Since the end of August, there has been almost no shipping traffic to the Louisiana port, according to personal watch on marine traffic. Please explain your point in posting. "Factoring in both the volume of ships and the number of other ports each is connected to, these are the top ports in the world: 1 Panama Canal 2 Suez Canal 3 Shanghai 4 Singapore 5 Antwerp 6 Piraeus 7 Terneuzen 8 Plaquemines 9 Houston " Read More [link to www.wired.com] |
acolyte User ID: 1101515 South Africa 09/17/2010 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a very revealing story Quoting: dhlos 1099426Is the window of opportunity in Russian-U.S. relations closing? It is always interesting to watch a shooting star or to see an e-mail fall from cyberspace. This time, I received an article "Changing Course in Moscow" by Jeffrey Mankoff from the upcoming September/October issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Mankoff is the author of the book "Russian Foreign Policy: The Return of Great Power Politics." There is clearly a new policy — what Mankoff calls a "dramatic shift" — as President Medvedev is the force behind the efforts to modernize the Russian economy with the help of the United States and the European Union. For former President Vladimir Putin to propose this during the presidency of George W. Bush would have been laughable. The author's argument is fairly obvious, but then he comes across an interesting thought that boils down to two words: two years. It is relationship between the United States and China that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has referred to as the most important issue in the world, followed by the Greater Middle East (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, etc.), and only then by relations between Russia and the West. a lot more here [link to en.rian.ru] watch a shooting star fall from space boils down to two words: two years Brilliant catch Dhlos :) WOW I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness for it shows me the stars. (Og Mandino) "Credo Quia Absurdum" (I believe it because it's absurd) Links to my forum on GLP are banned so just google "the chani project forum" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101527 Japan 09/17/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | .... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027No. Plug-in today's date and you get the real deal. Looks hot, like it should: [link to polar.ncep.noaa.gov] don't trust the images, following that site 3 months now, went off air for 2,5 days 4 weeks ago, so............. Of course I can trust those images. The mere fact tropical storms and powerful hurricanes form is because of the warmth in those very waters. 1+1=2 Do not trust! It is a modeling site and someone's coloring book. It is nice to see the open exchanges on this thread. That said, come on -- 1+1=2 If it was only that site that we had as evidence, I would be suspect like you and the other poster flying Netherlands colors with the nice behind he showed me. But you know as well as I do that hurricanes only form in the GOM and the Atlantic (or cyclones in other regions) due to one main factor or ingredient in most all cases - warm water... So that link first given to that site had a date other than current, so was giving false, cooler temp info. When the date is adjusted to this month, it yes, looks like it should. It is that simple. (site + lot's of hurricanes or tropical storms)1+1=2 "Generally, a hurricane begins its formation when a storm passes over a body of 80 degree or higher water." see link to this quote below. Necessary Conditions for Hurricanes to Form 1. 80 degree, or warmer, water temperature, which is at least 150 feet deep 2. A low pressure area with wind disturbance 3. A lack of stability in the air, which allows clouds to develop 4. A centrifugal force, known as a Coriolis Force, stemming from the earth's rotation 5. Moist air, i.e., a thunderstorm, in the lower portion of the atmosphere 6. Low level winds, with directional changes, known as wind shear Read more at Suite101: How Do Hurricanes Form?: What Weather Conditions Support the Storms [link to www.suite101.com] Ocean temps don't change that fast in a couple of days, but the colors in someone's coloring book can change anytime they pick up a different color crayon. No trust. I live around here and know where hurricanes come from. The water in the creek coming by my house won't change drastic temperature in a two-day time period. Tired of the BS and want truth, even if it hurts. If we can't get some transparency somewhere, there'll be a few of us who will begin to think that everyone in the Southeast US are already dead, no matter what we do. |
childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/17/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are they about to detonate something down the relief well? Or something? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087035Remember 6 String Woodie's post of a day or so ago? OMEGA ON? Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/17/2010 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wired.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101527cross referenced with shipping routes At the link the mapping shows that Louisiana has more shipping traffic than Houston, historically. Since the end of August, there has been almost no shipping traffic to the Louisiana port, according to personal watch on marine traffic. Please explain your point in posting. "Factoring in both the volume of ships and the number of other ports each is connected to, these are the top ports in the world: 1 Panama Canal 2 Suez Canal 3 Shanghai 4 Singapore 5 Antwerp 6 Piraeus 7 Terneuzen 8 Plaquemines 9 Houston " Read More [link to www.wired.com] AC asked about hurricanes that MIGHT be affecting marinetraffic.com not showing any vessels in the GOM, but some ocean-going vessels are anchored in port. I posted stormwatch.com. I was hedging my bet that the next post was going to be 'but there's no hurricanes in the GOM'...so I posted the cross reference to shipping routes. There were/are two large hurricanes Igor and Julia in the Atlantic...in the path of the shipping lanes. Nothing more from my end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101458 Australia 09/17/2010 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a site i use alot. i can vouch for its accuracy for ocean temp readings off australias east coast. the temp charts ae a little generalised but you can pick your area of intrest and overlap a synoptic chart over it. hope it helps confirm gulf ocean temps, if still needed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101458 Australia 09/17/2010 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | soorry link [link to www.oceanweather.com] |
childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/17/2010 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101458 Not a lot going on in the area weather wise! Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979825 Netherlands 09/17/2010 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: childoflight |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101569 Japan 09/17/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101458 Showing hot spot off Tampa/St Pete, moreso than the well site. Curious since that is where Arctic Sunrise was docked for a few days, plus people breaking out in rash after swimming in their pools at that location. Maybe Tampa/St Pete didn't have a boat cleaning station out in the Gulf like they did at Panama City. Just brought those morphing-metal eating bugs right on into port. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1101569 Japan 09/17/2010 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | something is going on and I and we, this thread, hasn't a clue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825I'm talking realtime now. Exactly the point! And, the reason this thread doesn't die. If there was resolution, good or bad, we'd all go and do something else. |
Czarcasym User ID: 1101589 United States 09/17/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NPR reported that the relief well has intersected the oil/gas well at DWH.I wonder if gas is leaking now!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979825linkie? Relief well intersects blown-out BP well Joining 2.5 miles under Gulf floor is prelude to final plug Snip: Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man on the oil spill, said in a statement that data shows the two wells are joined. The next step will be to pump mud and cement down through the relief well to seal the ruptured well permanently from the bottom. [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] ...Do You Even Couth, Bro... A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it. Jean de La Fontaine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979825 Netherlands 09/17/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anybody a clue who runs marinetraffic? who can give a order to putt OFF the transponder in a certain area? Do we have to think thats something is going on? the fear factor? Disguising certain shiptraffic? questions, yes, no answers, yet |
childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/17/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2us captain :Relaying sudden abnormal thermal activity at Three Submarine chimneys Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011531What i this? An underwater volcanic situation?Whatever it is methane hydrate is probably melting!Any ideas folks? Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |