Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

Childoflight in what region do you live, for it could match with my observations in the morning. (in Holland)
time difference with glp time: 6 hours

funny he"? but no, not yet. in october.
and I can tell you this too: since half july it went in small steps of 4-6 min. It has resulted now to be 60 min.

I am in Nebraska and it is presently 3.15 am. In addition to the above I have noticed that sun has been setting way way North for a couple of years.In addition we have few bugs now,hardly any butterflies and periods where we are devoid of birds.I have not turned my water sprinkler on this Summer for the first time ever and the trees here started to change colour 2 weeks ago!!!!!

so time difference is 7 hours, its 10 AM here.
so far I understand, your observations supports mine.

When and what were the circumstances when he said this?

You can watch sunrise and sunset on ooogle earth along with the timing. Click the little sun icon.

Since 3 weeks I start to use a compass on a fixed place.
but its a small one, but I try to examen whether there is a change too.

I like to rely on my observations, if you don't mind

I am retiring at the end of next month and will begin to watch more carefully then.I am relieved that I am not the only one.

Sorry, but it has not been shown to us that it is a lie that the sea bed is cracked open to an oil/gas reservoir in the Gulf of Mexico. I find it difficult to believe that Matt Simmons could easily be fooled.

perhaps you like to start a new thread?
I've the impression that very short times of dizziness can be part of it (rather quick changes in magnetic/sunpositions), when you are a sensitive person.
And, yes, a sort very high siss in your head.

Perhaps there is significance in comparing your observations with the great eye-in-the-sky.

I have given up on starting threads.They never last long and the effort involved is simply not worth it.BTW I also have the siss in the head that you are alluding to!Another point .Our storms always used to come from the Southwest but a few years ago this changed and now they come from tge Northwest!!!!!Always the Northwest!

There is a lot of symbolism in "101" and from an average person's point of view, "101" usually means an entry level, or beginning class. I take it that "MMC" is a new process.

Still don't know about "PS" and hope Woodie gives us a little help with this.

B3 UP

PS

MMC

101

JPL STAND BY

The sun thing: natural progression of seasons. Try looking at sun shadow at 12:00 GMT in London, you find that the shortest shadow deviates by 12 minutes either way - that's why it's called Greenwich <b>Mean</b> (average) Time. Caused by the 3 degree axis wobble, 3/360 x 24 x 60 = 12 minutes.

It's difficult to pin down an "overlay" for what's going on in the GoM. Could be the discovery of primordial seeding / terraforming material that NASA / JPL want to dump on Mars. Could be a deliberate attempt to stop the Gulf Stream / Atlantic Conveyor and thus freeze Europe (and to a lesser extent Russia) out of the economic equation. All sorts of scenarios.

Whether he was putting out accurate info or not is not the question I was interested in answering. He is dead and this thread lives on supposedly putting out insider info.

So only two conclusion I can see. Its dis info that they want out or its all just a sham. I can't imagine them allowing a leak this long with out stopping it if it as posted coming from personnel in a French embassy

Yesterday at around the time of the posts by OP warning of something heating many of us could not see any ships in the Gulf on the Marine Traffic map.They reappeared en masse at lunchtime.A poster here showed that transponders can be turned off if it is a matter of National Security so who knows???

2689, you are missing the point for those of us who are directly affected by the Gulf and that is, we do not have a reliable source of information that we can believe.

Government information is shown to be untruthful based on what we see, hear and smell and first-hand reports we find. BP is considered to be criminal corporate lying scum.

This thread stays alive in hopes that there will be enough information in a combined effort to gives us options to consider in order to make responsible choices.

Look what just popped up:

"MMC-NEWS
Saturday September 18th 2010

Busted BP well no longer ‘threat’ to Gulf: US official

WASHINGTON (AFP) .....
“I’m very pleased to announce that with the new blow-out preventer on this well, the cement that was previously put into this well, that this well does not constitute a threat to the Gulf of Mexico at this point,” said Admiral Thad Allen, the US official overseeing the spill response.

A new valve known as a blow-out preventer was placed over the well on Friday after crews removed the damaged device, which will now be examined by investigators looking into the causes of the disaster.

......
Allen said efforts would likely resume this week to finish a relief well that will intercept the Macondo allowing a final “kill” operation from below the seabed. ...."

[link to mmc-news.com]

Woodie, please help us with "PS." Thanks

"press release

Sept. 15, 2010, 11:37 a.m. EDT

NEW YORK, Sep 15, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) ......

MMC is a global professional services firm providing advice and solutions in the areas of risk, strategy and human capital. It is the parent company of a number of the world's leading risk experts and specialty consultants, including Marsh, the insurance broker and risk advisor; Guy Carpenter, the risk and reinsurance specialist; Mercer, the provider of HR and related financial advice and services; and Oliver Wyman, the management consultancy. With over 50,000 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $10 billion, MMC provides analysis, advice and transactional capabilities to clients in more than 100 countries. "

[link to www.marketwatch.com]

The way it looks is that B3 is up and ready to go, JPL is on stand by awaiting the go ahead from BP's new risk-management contractor to get things settled out.

I don't know why these guys want to use Asian flags to rile us. Kinda leads me to believe that they don't have even a foggy notion of what they are doing.

That's OK. Fresh meat to chew on.

GREAT link Czarcasym!! From the main page of that link, at the bottom left of the page I found two links. The first link is a U.S. gov abstract on nanotechnology called Nanotechnology: The Future is Coming Sooner Than You Think and the second link is an article called: Welcome to NanoWorld Nanotechnology and the Precautionary Principle Imperative

I've bolded parts of the article below, but the entire article is quite enlightening:

~snip

"World Peace, Universal Prosperity"
The pressure for rapid development of nanotech is enormous. The surprising properties of materials at the nano scale have opened up a new universe of industrial applications and entrepreneurial dreams. Largely unnoticed, hundreds of products containing nano-sized particles have already reached the market -- metal surfaces and paints so slick they clean themselves when it rains; organic light-emitting diodes for computer screens, digital cameras and cell phones; sub-miniature data storage devices (aiming to hold the Library of Congress in a computer the size of a sugar cube); specialty lubricants; long-mileage vehicle tires; nano-reinforced plastics for stronger automobile fenders; lightweight military armor; anti-reflective and scratch-resistant sun glasses; super-slippery ski wax; powerful tennis rackets and long-lasting tennis balls; inkjet photographic paper intended to hold an image for 100 years; high-contrast MRI scanners for medical diagnosis; efficient drug and vaccine delivery systems; vitamins in a spray; invisible sunscreen ointments containing nano particles of titanium or zinc; anti-wrinkle cosmetic creams; and so on.

And this is just the beginning. Nanotech wasn't possible until the invention in the 1980s and early 1990s of ways to arrange individual atoms under software control. Nano particles, nanotubes and carbon nano crystals called Bucky Balls (after Buckminster Fuller) are now being manufactured in ton quantities for industrial use. Currently technologists are working feverishly to coax nature's most successful nano factory, the living cell, to grow useful new nano assemblies. It is no exaggeration to say that the field of nanotech is gripped by something approaching a gold rush mentality. Worldwide, governments are spending an estimated $3 billion per year on nanotech research, and the private sector is thought to be spending at least that much. The U.S. government alone will spend at least $3.7 billion on nano R&D during the next four years. The global market for nano products is expected to reach $1 trillion in 10 years or less. Any day of the week you can check in at and catch a glimpse of the gold rush in action.

But for some prominent proponents of nanotech, this is about more than money -- it is about reinventing the entire world, including humans, as they now exist. According to the U.S. National Science Foundation, nanotechnology is the foundation stone of NBIC -- a revolutionary convergence of nanotech, biotech (manipulation of genes), info tech (computers), and cogno tech (brain function). In a report sponsored by the National Science Foundation and the Department of Commerce, the technologists and politicians who are promoting this revolution say it is "essential to the future of humanity" because it holds the promise of "world peace, universal prosperity, and evolution to a higher level of compassion and accomplishment." They say it may be "a watershed in history to rank with the invention of agriculture and the Industrial Revolution." The ultimate aim of this revolution has been an explicit human goal for at least 400 years -- the "conquest of nature" and the enhancement of human capabilities.

Whatever else it may offer, the nanotech revolution entails a radical new approach to industrial production with the potential to change every existing industry, plus create new ones. Typical manufacturing today -- even construction of the tiniest computer circuit -- relies on "top-down" techniques, machining or etching products out of blocks of raw material. For example, a common technique for making a transistor begins with a chunk of silicon, which is etched to remove unwanted material, leaving behind a sculpted circuit. This "top-down" method of construction creates the desired product plus waste residues.

In contrast, nanotech makes possible "bottom-up" construction in which atoms are arranged under software control -- or in ideal cases they will self-assemble, just as living cells self-assemble -- into the desired configuration with nothing left over, no waste. Instead of cutting trees into lumber to make a table, why not just "grow" a table? Thus nanotech seems to offer the possibility of waste-free manufacturing and therefore a cleaner environment. Furthermore, nanotech may help remediate past pollution. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is funding research on releasing nano particles into the environment to detoxify mountains of toxic waste remaining from the 20th century's experiment with petroleum-based chemistry.

Insuring a Nanotech Future
Nevertheless, without denying plausible benefits, critics want nanotech's potential problems brought into the open:

* Unless nanotechnology is shared generously, it may create a "nano divide" similar to the "digital divide" that exists now between those with ready access to computers and those without.
* Humans given enhanced mental or physical capabilities may gain great advantage over normal people. On the other hand, some people may be coerced to accept dubious or unwanted enhancements.
* Inequalities within and between nations may be exacerbated if individuals and corporations gain monopoly control of nanotech by patenting the building blocks of the universe -- a precedent set in 1964 when Glenn T. Seaborg was issued a patent on an element he discovered and named Americium.

In the longer term, some leading technologists like Ray Kurzweil, inventor of the first reading machine for the blind, and Bill Joy, one of the founders of Sun Microsystems, fear that nanotech will give individuals -- inadvertently or intentionally -- destructive potential greater than the power of atomic weapons. As Joy wrote in 2000, "I think it is no exaggeration to say we are on the cusp of the further perfection of extreme evil, an evil whose possibility spreads well beyond that which weapons of mass destruction bequeathed to the nation-states, on to a surprising and terrible empowerment of extreme individuals."

Others, such as the insurance industry, have more mundane concerns about nanotech -- chiefly, the potential health and environmental hazards of tiny particles. In May of this year, Swiss Re, the world's second-largest reinsurance firm, issued a report calling for the Precautionary Principle to guide nanotech development. Swiss Re itemized a host of potential problems that it says need to be resolved before nanotech products are fully deployed, including these:

* One of the new properties of nano-sized particles is their extreme mobility. They have "almost unrestricted access to the human body," Swiss Re points out, because they can enter the blood stream through the lungs and possibly through the skin, and seem to enter the brain directly via olfactory nerves. Once in the blood stream, nano particles can "move practically unhindered through the entire body," unlike larger particles that are trapped and removed by various protective mechanisms.
* If they become airborne, nano particles can float for very long periods because -- unlike larger particles -- they do not readily settle onto surfaces. In water, nano particles spread unhindered and pass through most available filters. So, for example, current drinking water filters will not effectively remove nano particles. Even in soil, nano particles may move in unexpected ways, perhaps penetrating the roots of plants and thus entering the food chains of humans and animals.
* One of the most useful features of nano particles is their huge surface area. The smaller the particle, the larger its surface in relation to its mass. A gram of nano particles has a surface area of a thousand square meters. Their large surfaces give nano particles some of their most desirable characteristics. For example, drug-coated nano particles may one day transport pharmaceuticals directly to specific sites within the human body. Unfortunately, their large surface also means that nano particles may collect and transport pollutants. Furthermore, their large surface means nano particles are highly reactive in a chemical sense. As Swiss Re noted, "As size decreases and reactivity increases, harmful effects may be intensified, and normally harmless substances may assume hazardous characteristics."

Nano particles may harm living tissue, such as lungs, in at least two ways -- through normal effects of chemical reactivity, or by damaging phagocytes, which are scavenger cells that normally remove foreign substances. Phagocytes can become "overloaded" by nano particles and cease functioning. Worse, overloaded phagocytes retreat into deeper layers and so become unavailable to protect against foreign invaders. Successive particles are then able to do their full reactive damage, and other invaders, such as bacteria, may penetrate unhindered.

The surface reactivity of nano particles gives rise to "free radicals," which are atoms containing an "unsatisfactory" number of electrons (either too few or too many for stability). Free radicals swap electrons with nearby atoms, creating further instabilities and setting off a cascade of effects. Free radicals give rise to inflammation and tissue damage, and may initiate serious harm, such as growth of tumors. On the other hand, some free radicals are beneficial, destroying invaders. So the role of nano particles in producing free radicals remains to be clarified.

Hello-oo-oo Nobody home, it echoes in here.5:00 AM Pacific time. I'm going for a short bike ride in the brisk air if nobody wants to be online.
Bis Später <See You later>
Hans

great find guys
wow

I have no problem with that, I think everyone would like to know the truth. Keep digging

OK I know it is Sorcha, but...
>The true state of how far the United States has fallen from its once most admired position of being a ‘beacon of freedom’ to the world went on full display today with the firing of veteran Washington D.C. newsman named Doug McKelway for his daring to report to the American people that challenging the British oil giant BP over the Gulf of Mexico oil catastrophe would be a “risky strategy” because “the one man who has more campaign contributions from BP than anybody else in history is now sitting in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama.”

The firing of McKelway follows by a few weeks the grim warning of a ‘September Surprise’ set to destroy the US and Global financial markets issued by Obama’s personal public speaking trainer, and popular author, Tony Robbins, who told the American people that news shows in his country were engaged in vast cover-up to keep from them the truth of what was going to happen... Rest at link -->
[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

China and Japan exchange mutual attacks over disputed gas field

Japanese officials said Friday that China had shipped drilling equipment to a disputed gas field in the East China Sea, according to reports.
Foreign minister Katsuya Okada Friday confirmed that Japan had seen the ship transports several days ago, and had repeatedly inquired Beijing about them through diplomatic channels, according to an Agence-France Presse report.

Okada reportedly made the statement before he stepped down, as part of a cabinet reshuffle in Japan, MarketWatch reports.

Tensions between the countries have heightened since Japan arrested the captain of a Chinese fishing boat that collided with the Japanese coast guard this month.

If China drills, Japan may also test drill in a nearby area, the report said, according to Bloomberg.

[link to english.pravda.ru]

If you ride a bike in the Northwest in the dark, DO NOT PUT LIGHTS OR REFLECTORS ON IT! It just makes it easier for them to aim at you. Guy chased me into a field. I was hoping he would follow me into the field and get stuck. He probably thought I was a school kid on the way to school and he was going to do his bit to ease the school overcrowding problem.
I'm going to rig some kind of padded bag on the handlebars with a ½ dozen eggs in it. Next one come for me his windshield will be a sticky mess. At least it will slow him down.

Last Edited by Hans The Magnificent on 09/18/2010 09:04 AM