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breezy User ID: 680963 United States 09/23/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do EMPs affect Ham/shortwave??? Quoting: childoflightAnyone know?? Seems like what I have read, it does. [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] no wonder I have 4,000 bookmarks |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/23/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do EMPs affect Ham/shortwave??? Quoting: Tex TamaleAnyone know?? Seems like what I have read, it does. [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] Man, my shortwave is 200 miles away from me at the moment. Ok just got off the phone with ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio™ 1) YES, EMP's will affect all electronics. Older stuff (ie: radios w tubes) they think might still work. 2) #1 being said for emergency two things that will keep you in the loop with info are a scanner (local level info) and a SW radio WITH sideband 3) local Ham operators can be o-o-led in your neck of the woods. Some are involved with ARRL and some are not. ARRL is into emergency operations. as an a side, when I asked about EMP's this well versed gentleman's I was speaking with said with a very concerned voice "Why do you think something bad is going to happen?" More as I find it... WOW, 1221, that's great info! Is a sideband an option to select any station as opposed to preset stations? And what does o-o-led mean? No surprise about older technology working. Wish I had one of those puppies! |
Just AC User ID: 1107495 United Kingdom 09/23/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here i go again Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047611playing lawyer again i have to make you privy to this filename (as sent to me): rimhighway12 it is most probably a sat picture (must be) please help identify the markings BEZRKERS pull your socks up on this one it was sent to my mail by an unknown sender (i guess he must of noticed it when i posted it about 50pgs back [link to img841.imageshack.us] Very intriguing image dhlos!! If you zoom in on those boxes you get more detail, but I still can't figure out what it is. The image is titled 'rim highway' Does "rim highway 1 and 2" work? I'm just sayin, the image title under properties is 'RIM HIGHWAY' You do recall the many earlier OP mentions of the rim dont you? |
Tex Tamale User ID: 643200 United States 09/23/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do EMPs affect Ham/shortwave??? Quoting: breezyAnyone know?? Seems like what I have read, it does. [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] no wonder I have 4,000 bookmarks You only have 4000? LOL "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.." Thomas Jefferson |
TutuWuwu User ID: 940739 United States 09/23/2010 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that Hams were the only ones getting any information out and there were distinct efforts to jam their signals. There were many complaints in the Ham radio papers resulting in some of the ham radio frequencies being re-allocated to UPS (the brown truck people) Quoting: Hans The MagnificentDa bastids! But, Hans, don't you think that, when push comes to shove, the pi rates will take over at least some re peaterz? You can't have a firm grip on anything when you are pointing your finger. - Randi Rhodes |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/23/2010 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do EMPs affect Ham/shortwave??? Quoting: Tex TamaleAnyone know?? Seems like what I have read, it does. [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] Man, my shortwave is 200 miles away from me at the moment. Ok just got off the phone with ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio™ 1) YES, EMP's will affect all electronics. Older stuff (ie: radios w tubes) they think might still work. 2) #1 being said for emergency two things that will keep you in the loop with info are a scanner (local level info) and a SW radio WITH sideband 3) local Ham operators can be o-o-led in your neck of the woods. Some are involved with ARRL and some are not. ARRL is into emergency operations. as an a side, when I asked about EMP's this well versed gentleman's I was speaking with said with a very concerned voice "Why do you think something bad is going to happen?" More as I find it... WOW, 1221, that's great info! Is a sideband an option to select any station as opposed to preset stations? And what does o-o-led mean? No surprise about older technology working. Wish I had one of those puppies! He explained sideband as a feature to make sure the SW radio you have or get has. Allows you to listen to transmissions far away. Don't wanna say the name cuz I'm not sure about the word ban thingy. And same with o-o-led. It's a search you can do on net to find local ham operators. Hope that made sense. Sorry about the double post. |
dhlos User ID: 1105356 Greece 09/23/2010 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360dont know thinking maybe 1.sea floor rising 2.organism pathway(hence filename) 3.nuke (or derivative) detonation waiting for more info...: |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/23/2010 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360I have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/23/2010 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | level3 : Quoting: 1221 1093619Thread: Who is level3.com? Wow thats interesting. If level 3 went down it would take everything else with it, i would think. BEZERKERS- Lots of info today got me thinking about pre-planning for an alternate means of communication. I'm out of my realm on the specifics, but if someone knows...are there any Ham operators among us? Is there a frequency we could listen to? And is it a short wave radio thats needed? Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated :) If someone will decide on a frequency and post, I'll contact a couple of local HAMs. We are rural, but sometime get info because of a nearby nu clear power plant here in Southeast US. Very good...I'm gonna do the same...getting SoCal in the loop. Looks like Tutu, you (1221) and I are all neighbors....more or less! "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/23/2010 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that Hams were the only ones getting any information out and there were distinct efforts to jam their signals. There were many complaints in the Ham radio papers resulting in some of the ham radio frequencies being re-allocated to UPS (the brown truck people) Quoting: Hans The MagnificentSo...Hans A Magnificent man (HAM) :) Despite the above, is it possible for us to all find/get/agree on a frequency/station to be able to listen communicate in the event of no other comms? |
dhlos User ID: 1105356 Greece 09/23/2010 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Krispy71I have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... yes you must be correct krispy well spotted |
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Hans The Magnificent User ID: 1100190 United States 09/23/2010 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that Hams were the only ones getting any information out and there were distinct efforts to jam their signals. There were many complaints in the Ham radio papers resulting in some of the ham radio frequencies being re-allocated to UPS (the brown truck people) Quoting: TutuWuwuDa bastids! But, Hans, don't you think that, when push comes to shove, the pi rates will take over at least some re peaterz? If south America is any indication, the first thing revolutionaries do is take over a local broadcast station.If S HTF many stations will pop up out of nowhere. The knowledge is everywhere. Your unban request was denied. About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still. Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol. |
TutuWuwu User ID: 940739 United States 09/23/2010 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | level3 : Quoting: fairflightThread: Who is level3.com? Wow thats interesting. If level 3 went down it would take everything else with it, i would think. BEZERKERS- Lots of info today got me thinking about pre-planning for an alternate means of communication. I'm out of my realm on the specifics, but if someone knows...are there any Ham operators among us? Is there a frequency we could listen to? And is it a short wave radio thats needed? Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated :) If someone will decide on a frequency and post, I'll contact a couple of local HAMs. We are rural, but sometime get info because of a nearby nu clear power plant here in Southeast US. Very good...I'm gonna do the same...getting SoCal in the loop. Looks like Tutu, you (1221) and I are all neighbors....more or less! Left coast is more than less;-) Don't forget Hans and Breezy. Depending on your locale, I'm in the middle, I think of that particular spread. You can't have a firm grip on anything when you are pointing your finger. - Randi Rhodes |
RenegadeSon User ID: 1107705 India 09/23/2010 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Krispy71I have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... I would agree Krispy, they look like shadows of high wispy clouds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001520 United States 09/23/2010 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Krispy71I have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... methane gas? |
Hans The Magnificent User ID: 1100190 United States 09/23/2010 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note that Hams were the only ones getting any information out and there were distinct efforts to jam their signals. There were many complaints in the Ham radio papers resulting in some of the ham radio frequencies being re-allocated to UPS (the brown truck people) Quoting: 1221 1093619So...Hans A Magnificent man (HAM) :) Despite the above, is it possible for us to all find/get/agree on a frequency/station to be able to listen communicate in the event of no other comms? Pick one Edit: Beautiful day 68ºF I will go for a short bike ride and think. Back in ½ hr. Last Edited by Hans The Magnificent on 09/23/2010 02:38 PM Your unban request was denied. About the Avatar: It is Die Wasserturm (The Watertower)in Mannheim Germany a local landmark.I used to make wishes on it as a kid. It seems to come through for me still. Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort But Doctor: I drive too fast to worry about cholesterol. |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/23/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | level3 : Quoting: fairflightThread: Who is level3.com? Wow thats interesting. If level 3 went down it would take everything else with it, i would think. BEZERKERS- Lots of info today got me thinking about pre-planning for an alternate means of communication. I'm out of my realm on the specifics, but if someone knows...are there any Ham operators among us? Is there a frequency we could listen to? And is it a short wave radio thats needed? Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated :) If someone will decide on a frequency and post, I'll contact a couple of local HAMs. We are rural, but sometime get info because of a nearby nu clear power plant here in Southeast US. Very good...I'm gonna do the same...getting SoCal in the loop. Looks like Tutu, you (1221) and I are all neighbors....more or less! Fairflight...and excellent neighbors to have! |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/23/2010 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty clouds on the left, shadows on the right. Zoom, look close. The're pretty high to cast a shadow that far away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360The sun must be just (before or) after noon ... coz the shadowcastings are not deformed ... They (the shadows) are almost IDENTICAL in SIZE to the shapes (faint clouds) above it. The normal clouds are closer to the seasurface. |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/23/2010 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001520I have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... methane gas? Methane is a heavy gas, I believe it rolls along the ground like propane. "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/23/2010 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | level3 : Quoting: 1221 1093619Thread: Who is level3.com? Wow thats interesting. If level 3 went down it would take everything else with it, i would think. BEZERKERS- Lots of info today got me thinking about pre-planning for an alternate means of communication. I'm out of my realm on the specifics, but if someone knows...are there any Ham operators among us? Is there a frequency we could listen to? And is it a short wave radio thats needed? Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated :) If someone will decide on a frequency and post, I'll contact a couple of local HAMs. We are rural, but sometime get info because of a nearby nu clear power plant here in Southeast US. Very good...I'm gonna do the same...getting SoCal in the loop. Looks like Tutu, you (1221) and I are all neighbors....more or less! Fairflight...and excellent neighbors to have! "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/23/2010 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | level3 : Quoting: TutuWuwuThread: Who is level3.com? Wow thats interesting. If level 3 went down it would take everything else with it, i would think. BEZERKERS- Lots of info today got me thinking about pre-planning for an alternate means of communication. I'm out of my realm on the specifics, but if someone knows...are there any Ham operators among us? Is there a frequency we could listen to? And is it a short wave radio thats needed? Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated :) If someone will decide on a frequency and post, I'll contact a couple of local HAMs. We are rural, but sometime get info because of a nearby nu clear power plant here in Southeast US. Very good...I'm gonna do the same...getting SoCal in the loop. Looks like Tutu, you (1221) and I are all neighbors....more or less! Left coast is more than less;-) Don't forget Hans and Breezy. Depending on your locale, I'm in the middle, I think of that particular spread. Duly noted. You've got mail. |
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RenegadeSon User ID: 1107705 India 09/23/2010 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty clouds on the left, shadows on the right. Zoom, look close. The're pretty high to cast a shadow that far away. Quoting: Krispy71The sun must be just (before or) after noon ... coz the shadowcastings are not deformed ... They (the shadows) are almost IDENTICAL in SIZE to the shapes (faint clouds) above it. The normal clouds are closer to the seasurface. From the source image. 2010/195 - 07/14 at 18 :55 UTC |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/23/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty clouds on the left, shadows on the right. Zoom, look close. The're pretty high to cast a shadow that far away. Quoting: RenegadeSonThe sun must be just (before or) after noon ... coz the shadowcastings are not deformed ... They (the shadows) are almost IDENTICAL in SIZE to the shapes (faint clouds) above it. The normal clouds are closer to the seasurface. From the source image. 2010/195 - 07/14 at 18 :55 UTC oops ..lol... ;) |
RenegadeSon User ID: 1107705 India 09/23/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dirty clouds on the left, shadows on the right. Zoom, look close. The're pretty high to cast a shadow that far away. Quoting: Krispy71The sun must be just (before or) after noon ... coz the shadowcastings are not deformed ... They (the shadows) are almost IDENTICAL in SIZE to the shapes (faint clouds) above it. The normal clouds are closer to the seasurface. From the source image. 2010/195 - 07/14 at 18 :55 UTC oops ..lol... ;) Yes but, UTC would be 6 hours earlier central time..or 12:55PM Last Edited by RenegadeSon on 09/23/2010 02:48 PM |
Tex Tamale User ID: 643200 United States 09/23/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do EMPs affect Ham/shortwave??? Quoting: 1221 1093619Anyone know?? Seems like what I have read, it does. [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] Man, my shortwave is 200 miles away from me at the moment. Ok just got off the phone with ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio™ 1) YES, EMP's will affect all electronics. Older stuff (ie: radios w tubes) they think might still work. 2) #1 being said for emergency two things that will keep you in the loop with info are a scanner (local level info) and a SW radio WITH sideband 3) local Ham operators can be o-o-led in your neck of the woods. Some are involved with ARRL and some are not. ARRL is into emergency operations. as an a side, when I asked about EMP's this well versed gentleman's I was speaking with said with a very concerned voice "Why do you think something bad is going to happen?" More as I find it... WOW, 1221, that's great info! Is a sideband an option to select any station as opposed to preset stations? And what does o-o-led mean? No surprise about older technology working. Wish I had one of those puppies! He explained sideband as a feature to make sure the SW radio you have or get has. Allows you to listen to transmissions far away. Don't wanna say the name cuz I'm not sure about the word ban thingy. And same with o-o-led. It's a search you can do on net to find local ham operators. Hope that made sense. Sorry about the double post. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, got cha! Thanks!! "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.." Thomas Jefferson |
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Tex Tamale User ID: 643200 United States 09/23/2010 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dhlos, clouds and the shadows of clouds. You're not thinking nuke are you? They're pretty unusual clouds. Quoting: RenegadeSonI have to agree with you after studiing the enlargements. The dark shapes are the same as the white faint shapes .... thought the SHAPES are different and odd !!! The clouds north-west from number 1 are normal clouds, their shadow is normal ... the odd clouds are higher imo ... I would agree Krispy, they look like shadows of high wispy clouds I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think the dark clouds are shadows of the white clouds, but I don't have an alternative guess as to what they might be though. "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.." Thomas Jefferson |
Tex Tamale User ID: 643200 United States 09/23/2010 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whooze in Arizona? Quoting: Ahim-saSorry friend, still looking for a fellow Texan! "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.." Thomas Jefferson |