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Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/28/2010 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guy are making me homesick with all this talk of some of my favorite foods. Quoting: Rken 1112677Any way some news from Thailan. News in Thailand is gov. controled. They have been putting out CME info with a dates in 2012 and pictures of UFO's in the news. I guess its going viral Wow ... can u provide a link please :) I love to read about that ! Tnx My wife is Thai and was watching the news the last few days and has heard me take about the afore mentioned subjects. I think she kind of thought I was nuts. So she was informing me of what she heard on the news and perhaps i was not ting tong after all. I will look for some links at some of the expat forums here in Thailand and see what I can find. Well Krispy could not find a news link to what my wife said, however did find this its funny and interesting. enjoy [link to planetx-hercolubus-nibiru.blogspot.com] Tnx Rken!! I will read it, looks very interesting yes :D |
childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/28/2010 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | snip- Quoting: American MentatRespectfully, American Mentat nice to have you back dont go you have insight that is appreciated no matter what some say as long as you carry on being gentle thnx I agree!! :) Regardless of my own thoughts, it is not polite to come into someone elses space shouting. It took some time to appreciate that this thread and probably some others take on their own ecosystem that is different than the general GLP flow. It's because I am part moran, that I fit in so well at GLP (and the first thing I remember my mom telling me when I was a kid was that I was brought here by aliens, true story... for another day). Must be all the EU hospitality here, Americans once insulted rarely invite someone back. :) SO... what about those spirals Dad? I was once given an excellent piece of advice that I am passing on....consider the source....... Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/28/2010 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | snip Quoting: breezyI dont COOK steaks ... I FRY them very quick in a very very hot pan !!! Brown and robust on the outside and juicy and red on the inside !!! Flavored with black-pepper-grain and other yummie spices. Mushrooms marinated in some olive-oil and garlick and herbs on a stick grilled stick. Bottle of soft tasting rich-flavored and a full bodied red wine to go with that. I am half Belgium, and Hans (and Woodster) I can assure you that their beers are much much more a delicacy and heaven for your tongue then Dutch beers which taste like rainwater next to it ...lol... Belgium is the lAND, the Walhalla of the beers. My parrents used to have a cafee (a bar were you could eat also) with MORE THEN 30 kinds of beer to chouse from !!!! And that was just a small pick out of the scala that is presented to bars .... Every single type of beer with it own special and unique taste ! Krispy...when I can afford steak....LOL....(which isn't often)...I cook them exactly like you do...holy smoke... Edit to add : snip cooking details ...lol... - Quoting: 1221 1093619@Krispy +1000 snip- Great minds think alike ...lol... Last Edited by Krispy71 on 09/28/2010 01:52 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1086360 United Kingdom 09/28/2010 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: American MentatMy 2cents on Iran. They welcomed Khomeini because the Shah was perceived as corrupt, in the main. After 30 years of the mullah experience, they look upon the late Shah somewhat more favourably. I know several Iranians and find them open, kind and gentle. There are fewer fanatics than is popularly espoused. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1086360 United Kingdom 09/28/2010 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuxnet? Kola Nuclear Power Plant no. 3 reactor shuts down after a control failure: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] |
childoflight User ID: 281980 Singapore 09/28/2010 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360My 2cents on Iran. They welcomed Khomeini because the Shah was perceived as corrupt, in the main. After 30 years of the mullah experience, they look upon the late Shah somewhat more favourably. I know several Iranians and find them open, kind and gentle. There are fewer fanatics than is popularly espoused. Yes these are a proud people with a culture stretching back for thousands of years. They are unfortunately trapped by a stifling regime.The frustration of the mostly younger population is palpable. Remember the regent tragic death on the street after the stolen election. Those old Mullahs can't last forever and neither can their puppets....... Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds . Albert Einstein. |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/28/2010 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case anyone wants to know, back on page 662 there was a mention of a thread that said to enjoy the FIREWORK on Oct 22. Quoting: HousedadOct 22 is the date of the Orionids meteor shower. Meteor showers, due to their nature, can hide larger meteor in them that are hard to see. Now we are usually not talking large ones, usualy the size of a grain of sand up to a pebble, but a couple could get to be basketball sized. Closer and closer. Tnx for this info Houser ! We need to know all what can happen that day ... then we can be prepared (a bit) ... EDIT: Saw that 1221 posted a link to it :D Tnx 1221 !!! Quoting: 1221 1093619 Last Edited by Krispy71 on 09/28/2010 02:02 PM |
American Mentat User ID: 1062754 United States 09/28/2010 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360My 2cents on Iran. They welcomed Khomeini because the Shah was perceived as corrupt, in the main. After 30 years of the mullah experience, they look upon the late Shah somewhat more favourably. I know several Iranians and find them open, kind and gentle. There are fewer fanatics than is popularly espoused. Here we have the hand of the US in the manipulation of the affairs of a future enemy. Can we say mujahideen anyone? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Why is it so important for the governments in Iran and Afghanistan to be hostile to us? Or do you not think there was that much of a plan ahead? Last Edited by Least Servant on 09/28/2010 02:00 PM :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
dhlos User ID: 1111143 Greece 09/28/2010 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: American MentatMy 2cents on Iran. i have many persian friends they all live outside iran they left iran because of the inslamification of their country how would any of us like it if a religious figure was head of state? most iranians are caught in the middle, between a rock and a hard place they are an ancient race and deserve respect for that but dont forget it was the cia that replaced the Shah and installed that first religious leader Ayatolah Homeini (spelling?) whom subsequently turned on his installers and the energy fight started much like the the osama story (but not quite if you know what i mean;) |
American Mentat User ID: 1062754 United States 09/28/2010 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuxnet? Kola Nuclear Power Plant no. 3 reactor shuts down after a control failure: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360I just blatantly stole you post and put it in a new thread hoping for pin. You have the credit for the info! Thread: BREAKING w/ CONFIRMATION!!! Nuclear Alert at Russian Powerplant, Reactor Reported Down, STUXNET ATTACK? Last Edited by Least Servant on 09/28/2010 02:05 PM :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case anyone wants to know, back on page 662 there was a mention of a thread that said to enjoy the FIREWORK on Oct 22. Quoting: Krispy71Oct 22 is the date of the Orionids meteor shower. Meteor showers, due to their nature, can hide larger meteor in them that are hard to see. Now we are usually not talking large ones, usualy the size of a grain of sand up to a pebble, but a couple could get to be basketball sized. Closer and closer. Tnx for this info Houser ! We need to know all what can happen that day ... then we can be prepared (a bit) ... EDIT: Saw that 1221 posted a link to it :D Tnx 1221 !!! EarthSky’s meteor shower guide for 2010 [link to earthsky.org] Thx MzK GO TEAM BEZERKER! |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/28/2010 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: American MentatMy 2cents on Iran. Ancient history shows us why, I believe. This is not for spiritual belief but for scriptual history. Just want to be clear :) Irans conflicts are both religious-political and secular-political. The Iranian lineage is from Ismael. Ishmael - son of Abraham and Hagar the Egyptian. He was the child "born after the flesh" and not the child "by promise" and was sent from home on the birth of Isaac. His descendants, the Ishmaelites, were a wandering race, living by plunder, having commercial relations and intermarrying with the heath nations of Canaan. I beleive it is possibly as simple as black and white - good vs. evil- Cain/Abel the knowledge of "opposition in all things = balance. Their fate and lineage. I agree, the music is entrancing. Just my 2 c Last Edited by fairflight on 09/28/2010 02:08 PM "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
American Mentat User ID: 1062754 United States 09/28/2010 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a post pirate of 4chan levels today: MURMANSK – The No. 3 reactor block of the embattled Kola Nuclear Power Plant was shut down today by its automatic switch off in what is a seeming series of more and more incidents at the Kola, and well as other Russian NPPs. Anna Kireeva, Charles Digges, 28/09-2010 - Translated by Charles Digges Quoting: 2012PortalIn a release on Kola NPP’s website, operators said that, “at 1:38 am on September 28, the automatic protection switch of the No. 3 reactor block shut the unit down as a result of a malfunction in one of the elements in the system responsible for pressure control in the first compartment. The reason for the malfunction is being ascertained.” Ironically, the malfunction falls on the Russian national holiday celebrating workers of the nuclear industry, September 28. Kola NPP is located 200 kilometres south of the Kola Peninsula’s regional centre of Murmansk in Russia’s Far Northwest. full article here: [link to www.bellona.org] :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/28/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the heads up on this AM. This is not good and I feel for the people of that area. "Bellona asserts that both reactors should be decommissioned at precisely the moment their engineered lifespan runs out. For reactor No. 3, that would mean 2011, and No. 4, 2012. Taking reactors out of service is a very long process demanding the formation of special funding pools aimed at the dismantlement of Kola NPP’s reactors No. 1 and No. 2 – which have already exceeded their engineered lifespan – and then No. 3 and No. 4." Goes on to say that 85% of the people DO NOT want to live by these things. God Bless them. "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
American Mentat User ID: 1062754 United States 09/28/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pinned! Thread: BREAKING w/ CONFIRMATION!!! Nuclear Alert at Russian Powerplant, Reactor Reported Down, STUXNET ATTACK? Thanks to the AC who posted that... I am reppin' for BEZERK on the mainboard. :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113215 United States 09/28/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Tutu- Quoting: 1221 1093619There's a group of protesters (as you say old Hippies) carrying signs that stand about a dozen strong almost every Friday night on a quasi main street corner here in my neck of the woods -- I always honk for them! I wonder who, if anyone, would be carrying signs if not for them? Gotta give em credit, I say. What are these old Hippies protesting? |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuxnet? Kola Nuclear Power Plant no. 3 reactor shuts down after a control failure: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360Thanks my British friend. Good catch! |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/28/2010 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Tutu- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113215There's a group of protesters (as you say old Hippies) carrying signs that stand about a dozen strong almost every Friday night on a quasi main street corner here in my neck of the woods -- I always honk for them! I wonder who, if anyone, would be carrying signs if not for them? Gotta give em credit, I say. What are these old Hippies protesting? Probably what i would protest about - Growing old! :) "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
BlissNinny User ID: 1087173 United States 09/28/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unrelated perhaps... I was listening to some Persian music last night and almost fell into a trance... I find it hard to believe that a nation with so much wisdom in their ancient blood would go so far into the realm of fanatism without some kind of larger vision. Quoting: fairflightMy 2cents on Iran. Ancient history shows us why, I believe. This is not for spiritual belief but for scriptual history. Just want to be clear :) Irans conflicts are both religious-political and secular-political. The Iranian lineage is from Ismael. Ishmael - son of Abraham and Hagar the Egyptian. He was the child "born after the flesh" and not the child "by promise" and was sent from home on the birth of Isaac. His descendants, the Ishmaelites, were a wandering race, living by plunder, having commercial relations and intermarrying with the heath nations of Canaan. I beleive it is possibly as simple as black and white - good vs. evil- Cain/Abel the knowledge of "opposition in all things = balance. Their fate and lineage. I agree, the music is entrancing. Just my 2 c Fairlight, I disagree. The descendants of Ishmael are the Arabs, of Semitic origins just like the Jewish people (all are sons of Abraham). The Persians are Caucasians, and not of the same racial heritage at all - this is one reason they have been at odds with the Arabic countries (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Palestinians, etc). Their original religion came from Zoroaster, and they found their own form of Islam by blending it with Zoroastrianism into an Ismailian (Shi-ite)lineage of Islam. |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Tutu- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113215There's a group of protesters (as you say old Hippies) carrying signs that stand about a dozen strong almost every Friday night on a quasi main street corner here in my neck of the woods -- I always honk for them! I wonder who, if anyone, would be carrying signs if not for them? Gotta give em credit, I say. What are these old Hippies protesting? War-same as in the 60', as I understand it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113215 United States 09/28/2010 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | snip Quoting: Krispy71I dont COOK steaks ... I FRY them very quick in a very very hot pan !!! Brown and robust on the outside and juicy and red on the inside !!! Flavored with black-pepper-grain and other yummie spices. Mushrooms marinated in some olive-oil and garlick and herbs on a stick grilled stick. Bottle of soft tasting rich-flavored and a full bodied red wine to go with that. I am half Belgium, and Hans (and Woodster) I can assure you that their beers are much much more a delicacy and heaven for your tongue then Dutch beers which taste like rainwater next to it ...lol... Belgium is the lAND, the Walhalla of the beers. .......... "Walhalla of the beers" Krispy, is that a common phrase for the Belgian-Dutch? In the US, we're told that "Walhalla" is an old German term which means "Garden of the Gods." Please explain. Thanks. |
fairflight User ID: 1071336 United States 09/28/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuxnet? Kola Nuclear Power Plant no. 3 reactor shuts down after a control failure: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: 1221 1093619Thanks my British friend. Good catch! My apologies AC... Good find!!! "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself." |
BlissNinny User ID: 1087173 United States 09/28/2010 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the heads up on this AM. Quoting: fairflightThis is not good and I feel for the people of that area. "Bellona asserts that both reactors should be decommissioned at precisely the moment their engineered lifespan runs out. For reactor No. 3, that would mean 2011, and No. 4, 2012. Taking reactors out of service is a very long process demanding the formation of special funding pools aimed at the dismantlement of Kola NPP’s reactors No. 1 and No. 2 – which have already exceeded their engineered lifespan – and then No. 3 and No. 4." Goes on to say that 85% of the people DO NOT want to live by these things. God Bless them. My sister was one of the first to bring alcohol treatment programs from the West to the USSR. She was astonished to find out that they issued vodka three times a day to all nuclear power plant workers, telling them that it protected them from radiation exposure. FWIW. |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuxnet? Kola Nuclear Power Plant no. 3 reactor shuts down after a control failure: [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: fairflightThanks my British friend. Good catch! My apologies AC... Good find!!! Oh...no worries Fair. British AC and I seem to keep our eyes on same things- I just hadn't acknowledged his last post to me last night. Didn't wanna miss this one too:) Also AM gave credit! |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the heads up on this AM. Quoting: BlissNinny 1087173This is not good and I feel for the people of that area. "Bellona asserts that both reactors should be decommissioned at precisely the moment their engineered lifespan runs out. For reactor No. 3, that would mean 2011, and No. 4, 2012. Taking reactors out of service is a very long process demanding the formation of special funding pools aimed at the dismantlement of Kola NPP’s reactors No. 1 and No. 2 – which have already exceeded their engineered lifespan – and then No. 3 and No. 4." Goes on to say that 85% of the people DO NOT want to live by these things. God Bless them. My sister was one of the first to bring alcohol treatment programs from the West to the USSR. She was astonished to find out that they issued vodka three times a day to all nuclear power plant workers, telling them that it protected them from radiation exposure. FWIW. Cousin of Tutu...Hans was mentioning the vodka aspect in another industry as well! |
American Mentat User ID: 1062754 United States 09/28/2010 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also AM gave credit! Quoting: 1221 1093619No credit to me... I am a post pirate who isn't doing his job for shit at work today. I am NOT anyone's hero today... unless you count stealing a paycheck from the state as heroic. lol :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113215 United States 09/28/2010 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | .......... Quoting: BlissNinny 1087173My sister was one of the first to bring alcohol treatment programs from the West to the USSR. She was astonished to find out that they issued vodka three times a day to all nuclear power plant workers, telling them that it protected them from radiation exposure. FWIW. Well, does it? Does vodka contain iodide? |
1221 User ID: 1093619 United States 09/28/2010 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the topic of algae fuel being brought to market some pages back...interesting article. U.S. Navy Buys 20,000 Gallons Of Algae Fuel September 17, 2010 ...The U.S. Navy wants to get half of its fuel from sources other than oil, and algae makes a lot of sense for the Navy. I am well aware that turning algae into fuel is an intensive process. But I also imagine that down the road, it could streamlined to fit on a large naval vessel, which could theoretically never need to be refueled again, save for driving through an algae bloom. ...Nevermind the military implications… a fleet that never had to refuel would be a tremendous advantage, and it is something that could make its way into commercial shipping as well. [link to gas2.org] BEZERK: Fuel for Thought |
Live for Yahweh User ID: 1060540 Costa Rica 09/28/2010 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something keeps rolling around in my mind/soul... Quoting: dhlos 1111143What would be more exceptable to a mass population? The announcement of existence and future contact with aliens (bad,good,or otherwise) Or... The anouncement of existence and future contact with demons? (bad,bad,or bad)? I remain open minded, but given my years of experience on this planet, I have come to understand that there are two forces that rule the universe and beyond. Good and Evil. It makes more sense to me that the corrupted powers would and have tapped into this powerful force. Can not help but think often of the verse: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Personally, I would be far more terrified of demons and powerful evil forces than I would of Aliens. If they can convince the world populations to accept these Aliens as possible friends and in reality, they are demons from another dimension, then we have much to be afraid of. Did you notice how many of the retired military men and Hastings mentioned either aliens OR beings from another dimension??? Just throwing out thoughts... ...and the potato salad would def have to be German...it is the best!!! I ran a catering biz for years, even longer if you count cooking for 6 children :) Edited for spelling very well said in my opinion i tend towards the idea that this is about us accepting evil as benign whilst at the same time fighting those who are actually here to help remember the ptb would never release the info if they were not FORCED to do so this whole process damages tptb status quo as the guys in the press conf said themselves now i know (dont ask cant substantiate) that they have NO CHOICE but to get there first in order to further steer public opinion about something that is imminent and real in christian terms gog and magog One must understand and not many do because they do not read their bibles. The Gog and Magog war does not happen in our lifetime, but after 1000 years of reigning with Yahushua in heaven. After a 1000 years we return to earth with Yahushua with the New Jerusalem City. Please read the following: Rev 20:4-7 4-I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Yahushua and because of the word of Yahweh. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of Yahweh and of Yahushua and will reign with him for a thousand years. Satan's Doom 7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of Yahweh's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. |
Krispy71 User ID: 962920 Netherlands 09/28/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today sept 28, 2010 was an important day for BP and the GOM: Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Commission Meeting [link to www.c-spanvideo.org] Is the Coast Guard working for BP in the Gulf of Mexico [link to expertvoter.org] Gulf of Mexico oil drilling moratorium may be lifted early [link to dailycaller.com] snip: The new rules impose a “significant number” of new technical requirements on drilling, he said, but they should be no surprise to the industry. They were outlined in a report issued a month after BP’s well blew out on April 20. Scientist says more than 50% of oil still in Gulf [link to dailycaller.com] “The remaining fraction—over 50% of the total discharge—is a highly durable material that resists further dissipation,” oceanographer Ian MacDonald said in prepared testimony to the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling. “Much of it is now buried in marine and coastal sediments. There is scant evidence for bacterial degradation of this material prior to burial.” The comments—the strongest contradiction yet of last month’s U.S. government estimate that the remaining oil appeared to be degrading quickly—came on a day when commissioners also repeatedly questioned responders about initial estimates... Barack Obama under fire for grossly underestimating Gulf oil spill White House commission finds that administration lost public trust and may have sabotaged clean-up operations from Ghuwaaardian : ... .co.uk/environment/2010/sep/28/barack-obama-gulf-oil-spill |