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I've been to both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And felt totally ashamed standing amongst a sea of black and white clothed school children at both the memorial center and the Palace.

Many witnesses saw the package parachuting down above the Palace, which is pretty much central Hiroshima.

How could it still be standing if a truck was parked next to it? Surely the explosion would have just made a massive glass crater.

I agree that there were ground ops in place, as a good friend of mine who showed me around Hiroshima showed me where cameras were set up on each peak to film it. That story has passed through his family.

Too heavy to fly bombs?
General characteristics
Wingspan: 141 ft 3 in (43.06 m)
Height: 29 ft 7 in (8.5 m)
Wing area: 1,736 sq ft (161.3 m²)
Empty weight: 74,500 lb (33,800 kg)
Loaded weight: 120,000 lb (54,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 133,500 lb (60,560 kg) ; 135,000 lb plus combat load (144,000 lb on record[13])

Remember that the B-29 also carried the X-1 plane aloft, and many other X planes. I cant find a weight for the bombs, but I think they would weigh less than the difference between the stated unloaded weight and the maximum take off weight stated above.

Happy to be corrected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111604



The bombs reported to weigh 9,000-10,000 lbs, total weight not too much but with other issues about size and detonation. Supposedly, the "firing pin" or whatever, was not loaded until after the Enola Gay took off for Hiroshima. The Hiroshima bomb went off central to the courtyard of the Shimii Hospital.

I've never read that there was a crater, but fused glass and complete destruction at ground zero. The Enola Gay did drop something, and pictures were taken from the plane of the mushroom cloud after the explosion. For years people have questioned why there is no picture of bomb after it left the bomb bay of the Enola Gay.
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Definately no crater. Plenty of fused glass. In fact plenty of fused everything, including people and things. The photos in the Hiroshima memorial centre, along with actual samples of everyday items, including the famous 'step' with a man's shadow imprint still on it, make for a sobering visit. The place is usually crawling with school kids.

The Palace still stands, as a memorial of sorts, all be it twisted and crumpled.

Photos of the day at ground zero are horific, but oddly enough structures still exist there.

Definately no crater. River gone for hours apparently.
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I've been to both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And felt totally ashamed standing amongst a sea of black and white clothed school children at both the memorial center and the Palace.

Many witnesses saw the package parachuting down above the Palace, which is pretty much central Hiroshima.

How could it still be standing if a truck was parked next to it? Surely the explosion would have just made a massive glass crater.

I agree that there were ground ops in place, as a good friend of mine who showed me around Hiroshima showed me where cameras were set up on each peak to film it. That story has passed through his family.

Too heavy to fly bombs?
General characteristics
Wingspan: 141 ft 3 in (43.06 m)
Height: 29 ft 7 in (8.5 m)
Wing area: 1,736 sq ft (161.3 m²)
Empty weight: 74,500 lb (33,800 kg)
Loaded weight: 120,000 lb (54,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 133,500 lb (60,560 kg) ; 135,000 lb plus combat load (144,000 lb on record[13])

Remember that the B-29 also carried the X-1 plane aloft, and many other X planes. I cant find a weight for the bombs, but I think they would weigh less than the difference between the stated unloaded weight and the maximum take off weight stated above.

Happy to be corrected.



The bombs reported to weigh 9,000-10,000 lbs, total weight not too much but with other issues about size and detonation. Supposedly, the "firing pin" or whatever, was not loaded until after the Enola Gay took off for Hiroshima. The Hiroshima bomb went off central to the courtyard of the Shimii Hospital.

I've never read that there was a crater, but fused glass and complete destruction at ground zero. The Enola Gay did drop something, and pictures were taken from the plane of the mushroom cloud after the explosion. For years people have questioned why there is no picture of bomb after it left the bomb bay of the Enola Gay.
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My copy of "The Jesuits" by Malachi Martin says the first bomb went off nearly 2000 feet in the air. There is nothing about a submarine transporting a bomb whatsoever in that book.

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sing it schwester, I have a small detachment ringing my area I hope that doesn't mean I in the middle of something!! Now seriously I haven't "seen" one yet except in CCTV and maybe heard one around 2:am eastern time this morning that gave me a healthy dose of respect. I will say this much there has been rumbling and vibration like dozers running nearby and an ocillatating hum and compression engine running all night long for last 4 days...It stops during the day! I don't like the sound and I feel uneasy standing out and listening to it! Everybody is hearing it around here!



Is Dick Cheney moving to your neighborhood? Same noise was described by neighbors after he moved into the Vice-President's residence in D.C.


As I am a Licenced Commercial General Contractor and have a few pieces of tracked equipment, I know what building or construction sounds like for sure even to the point I can get close to saying what is being done. It sounded like a Harleys blasting off in the distance but he never left or ever had to deselerate for hours in addition to the other stuff dozer vibrations, the worst thing is the ocillating hum hum....Also I still can't figure why a commercial power meter would have a IR strobe inside the glass on top, come on after dark and shut off at first light, Anybody know what that is about?
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modern meters are fitted or some, retro fitted with remote dump(read) ability. early versions were ir near line of sight, post versions rf, proximity. this access is proximity none the less and if I remember correctly, polls data at top of every cycle of the bandwith during load. as for on at dusk off at dawn, simple, load is during night. as for the sound, its would be a guess to say, possibly generators, pumps (sump or hydronic) or compressors, of whatever type even oxygen supply generators. imo
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Hmmm - I disagree with most of what you have said here:

- we have no idea that an embassy is even being used, let alone which country.

- I really do not think China controls the Vatican at all

- yes, Japan really raped China before and during WWII

- I do not believe the A bombs were transported to Japan via any submarine. I have made extensive research into the WWII bomb blasts, mainly over claims that such detonation were geometrically located in space and time. The bombs detonated in the air ABOVE ground zero - not at ground level.

- Please show me where Malachi Martin says the abomb was transported via submarine.

- Woody is a nice guy - but I don't think he is part of OP's project or team at all. Wanna clarify this Woody?
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I'm guessing on the OP stuff and agree that we don't really know what is going on.

It was likely Bruce Cathie who first wrote about the difficulty of detonation of atomic bombs because of the space/time equation, which if true, means that it would be nearly impossible to make a successful bomb drop from an airplane. Cathie's argument was that there would not be a war between superpowers using atomic bombs because the possible detonation coordinates can be calculated in advance and defended against.

It is possible, as mentioned in various sources, that the Port Chicago explosion in California was actually a test of a smaller version of "Fat Boy." Look at the picture at the link and see similarities to some Hiroshima aftermath pics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Malachi Martin infers the use of German submarine in his book "The Jesuits." I've checked the index for "submarine" and the word is not listed. When I have a little time, I'll thumb through the book and find the reference and post

I did not mean to infer that Woodie is part of OP' team, but stand by my opinion of his "code" as given.
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. this rise is estimated to be possibly double in population. speculation is the increased population may not be organic, possibly hybrid or controlled non organic in nature. tests are still ongoing.

my guess is nano gone wrong, imo. thoughts first is that aracno increased because of insect increase, abundance of food. but now some have speculated that the aracno is non organic, hybrid or controlled like their counterparts.

scratching my head, and wondering if AUgie could have jumped and created a new strain ? Anything is possible.
I can say that myself personally, it does seem to appear that there is an extra ammount of bugs this season, and have been invaded by more spiders than normal. some of the insects and spiders seem to act immune to the normal consumer pesticides I have used for sometime now that have done what it is intended to do, kill bugs. Some appear to have no ill effect upon them at all, especially the spiders. (like they just laugh at getting juiced) LOL

just wanted to add my opinion to some info and see if it links to the AUgie senerio at all.

your thoughts ?
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Hey AC1120820, whilst I would never squash anyone's ideas or trample their posts, I dont agree with your info.

I cant see how China and the Vatican relate to each other?
Can you point me to a book or some info?

On your point of the too heavy for flight bombs being delivered by sub, how did they get them inside? At Nagasaki, how did they unload a German sub at port unnoticed?
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When the Mongols invade the near East and then the West, they never advanced beyond Rome. It was about 1240 that the warriors went back to China, or intermingled with the conquered. Our history books tell us it was for the Khan's funeral, and some books give other reasons. The fact is, they left and did not return.

The Knights Templar were the soldiers for the Vatican and they got beat. About 60 years later is when the Pope conspired with King Philip of France to disband the Knights and take possession of the "goods" removed from the Holy Land.

In the meantime, China set up relations with the Vatican and thereafter the Church sent emissaries to China, bringing back instructions from the Warlords. History books to not tell us this, but think about it. The Church had to concede to the Mongols or suffer the same consequences as the Russians and all the other peoples they conquered. This saved the rest of Western Europe from being taken by the Mongols and destroyed. There had to have been a deal. The Mongols did not just walk away.

Martin, in his book, only infers the use of German submarines because the bombs could not be transported by air. He also inferred the use of a truck to the hospital grounds for placing the bomb in Hiroshima. He did not write much about Nagasaki. I'll look for the reference and post when I can find it.
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This is GirlFriend.
KremPP reporting Problems with two unofficially acquired Mistral class vessels from France. Transcripts show that the software for Strategic Theatre Command, Nuclear and ICBM Encrypted Communications, ELF and Satellite Relay is now unexpectedly incompatible.

Embassy reports from China that 12 Committee members and 39 Party Members have been arrested for treason.

Japanese Embassy reports confirming that Japan has also now received Diplomatic Briefcases from China with opening sequence date of October 15th and not the 13th like the others.
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Welcome back!!!!

Thank you for the information! We have been waiting with anticipation.

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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. this rise is estimated to be possibly double in population. speculation is the increased population may not be organic, possibly hybrid or controlled non organic in nature. tests are still ongoing.

my guess is nano gone wrong, imo. thoughts first is that aracno increased because of insect increase, abundance of food. but now some have speculated that the aracno is non organic, hybrid or controlled like their counterparts.

scratching my head, and wondering if AUgie could have jumped and created a new strain ? Anything is possible.
I can say that myself personally, it does seem to appear that there is an extra ammount of bugs this season, and have been invaded by more spiders than normal. some of the insects and spiders seem to act immune to the normal consumer pesticides I have used for sometime now that have done what it is intended to do, kill bugs. Some appear to have no ill effect upon them at all, especially the spiders. (like they just laugh at getting juiced) LOL

just wanted to add my opinion to some info and see if it links to the AUgie senerio at all.

your thoughts ?
 Quoting: 6 String Woodie



Something is very different this year here in the Southeast US. Not a single Japanese Beetle or Wooly Worm. Very few Catawba worms and few wasps. Not a single wasp nest was built under the eaves of the house this year.

We have spiders everywhere, all kinds, some I haven't seen before. Also, a lot of snakes this year, much more than usual. My little Jack Russell got snake bit this summer (she usually gets them) and was paralyzed for three days. She's OK now.
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Hey AC1120820, whilst I would never squash anyone's ideas or trample their posts, I dont agree with your info.
[snip]
Martin, in his book, only infers the use of German submarines because the bombs could not be transported by air. He also inferred the use of a truck to the hospital grounds for placing the bomb in Hiroshima. He did not write much about Nagasaki. I'll look for the reference and post when I can find it.
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The hospital Martin refers to is not Shimii, but Shimai.
Shimai means "sisters" but in reference to the hospital at the time meant "end" or "termination". It was a place where people waited to die.

Shimai Hospital still survives today, and is over 15Km away from the blast centre (further around the bay)


Sorry AC1120820, I'm not conducting a bashing session, but I am passionate about this subject and have been there. When I first read Martin's book I was fascinated, but it all seemed to unravel when I actually started looking in to things. I have no doubts that some of his info is true, but there is lots of speculation and padding too.
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I'm guessing on the OP stuff and agree that we don't really know what is going on.

It was likely Bruce Cathie who first wrote about the difficulty of detonation of atomic bombs because of the space/time equation, which if true, means that it would be nearly impossible to make a successful bomb drop from an airplane. Cathie's argument was that there would not be a war between superpowers using atomic bombs because the possible detonation coordinates can be calculated in advance and defended against.

It is possible, as mentioned in various sources, that the Port Chicago explosion in California was actually a test of a smaller version of "Fat Boy." Look at the picture at the link and see similarities to some Hiroshima aftermath pics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Malachi Martin infers the use of German submarine in his book "The Jesuits." I've checked the index for "submarine" and the word is not listed. When I have a little time, I'll thumb through the book and find the reference and post

I did not mean to infer that Woodie is part of OP' team, but stand by my opinion of his "code" as given.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1120922


Yes. I am very familiar with Bruce Cathie's work. He is a good friend of mine, for nearly 25 years now. Nexus actually published the last book he wrote back in the mid-90s - "The Harmonic Conquest of Space". His reference to the a-bombs over Japan was indeed to prove the geometric harmonics required to split the atom - and even he mentioned the curious fact that they exploded nearly 2000 feet above the ground.

Nexus was also one of the first and only mags to publish information about the Port Chicago explosion being atomic. I got some heat over that - plus more corroborating info in the process. To this day most Americans never heard about it being an atomic explosion though.

If you have a copy of "The Jesuits" there, go to chapter 17 - "The Second Basque" Its basically about the basque born, Jesuit Father General Pedro Arrupé - and how he was posted in his early career to Japan. Guess where? Nagasaki and Hiroshima. He was there when the abomb dropped - seems to have given him an epiphone moment. He mentions in that chapter how high the bomb was ABOVE the ground when it went off.
Even using the logic that the bomb was too heavy for aircraft, how could anyone have 'tossed' such a heavy thing nearly 2000 feet up into the air?

Kudos to you though - for even knowing who Bruce Cathie is, and the significance of his research, and for knowing that Port Chicago explosion may have been atomic.
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. this rise is estimated to be possibly double in population. speculation is the increased population may not be organic, possibly hybrid or controlled non organic in nature. tests are still ongoing.

my guess is nano gone wrong, imo. thoughts first is that aracno increased because of insect increase, abundance of food. but now some have speculated that the aracno is non organic, hybrid or controlled like their counterparts.

scratching my head, and wondering if AUgie could have jumped and created a new strain ? Anything is possible.
I can say that myself personally, it does seem to appear that there is an extra ammount of bugs this season, and have been invaded by more spiders than normal. some of the insects and spiders seem to act immune to the normal consumer pesticides I have used for sometime now that have done what it is intended to do, kill bugs. Some appear to have no ill effect upon them at all, especially the spiders. (like they just laugh at getting juiced) LOL

just wanted to add my opinion to some info and see if it links to the AUgie senerio at all.

your thoughts ?



Something is very different this year here in the Southeast US. Not a single Japanese Beetle or Wooly Worm. Very few Catawba worms and few wasps. Not a single wasp nest was built under the eaves of the house this year.

We have spiders everywhere, all kinds, some I haven't seen before. Also, a lot of snakes this year, much more than usual. My little Jack Russell got snake bit this summer (she usually gets them) and was paralyzed for three days. She's OK now.
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yep, snakes are plenty, heard nothing on them just the insects and spiders.

another opion of mine is if they are controlled, could it be they are to go after and destroy food sources in ag, storage or even whats being stored in the cupboards? ok, I'm reaching far into left field. just tossing it out there.
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. [snip]

your thoughts ?
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Hey Woodster. Hows it hanging? Still to the right and down?!!!

Here in OZ we too are preparing for a massive locust plague.(I mentioned that in gest a few pages back)

Your earlier posts suggesting world wide food shortages have anything to do with locust and other crop eating insects? Hence our need to turn to other food types.

Algy, its whats for dinner.... vom.
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. [snip]

your thoughts ?


Hey Woodster. Hows it hanging? Still to the right and down?!!!

Here in OZ we too are preparing for a massive locust plague.(I mentioned that in gest a few pages back)

Your earlier posts suggesting world wide food shortages have anything to do with locust and other crop eating insects? Hence our need to turn to other food types.

Algy, its whats for dinner.... vom.
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LOL - AC still hanging. shortages were not given a cause, leaves it open for interp. my opinion has been weather and enviromental related. the insect thing just brings new cards to the table, and can go many different dirrections. still scatching my head. a lot of attention on this thread about AUgie, so I'm trying to see if the bugs can fit in somewhere. its only opinions there after.

when I was in my preteen years we had a locust swarm come in and they ate the piss out of everything green. they were freaky, and much more so with young eyes and during a time in my life where I couldnt get enough sci fi flicks or outer limits on TV it was wild.

hope all is well with you oz.
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. [snip]

your thoughts ?


Hey Woodster. Hows it hanging? Still to the right and down?!!!

Here in OZ we too are preparing for a massive locust plague.(I mentioned that in gest a few pages back)

Your earlier posts suggesting world wide food shortages have anything to do with locust and other crop eating insects? Hence our need to turn to other food types.

Algy, its whats for dinner.... vom.
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To the left - pay attention!
edit to say> Oh, that's right - you're down under.

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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. [snip]

your thoughts ?


Hey Woodster. Hows it hanging? Still to the right and down?!!!

Here in OZ we too are preparing for a massive locust plague.(I mentioned that in gest a few pages back)

Your earlier posts suggesting world wide food shortages have anything to do with locust and other crop eating insects? Hence our need to turn to other food types.

Algy, its whats for dinner.... vom.

To the left - pay attention!
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maybe it gravitates to the other side down under. LOL
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too much. info overload. trying to link new info to fit the AUgie senerios. did AUgie jump to domestic insects ? there has been a huge rise in insects and aracno, especially in southern regions. [snip]

your thoughts ?


Hey Woodster. Hows it hanging? Still to the right and down?!!!

Here in OZ we too are preparing for a massive locust plague.(I mentioned that in gest a few pages back)

Your earlier posts suggesting world wide food shortages have anything to do with locust and other crop eating insects? Hence our need to turn to other food types.

Algy, its whats for dinner.... vom.

To the left - pay attention!



maybe it gravitates to the other side down under. LOL
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HA! I edited while you were writing the same thing!
Good to see ya Woody!
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hello tut, always a pleasure to see you too.
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Something is very different this year here in the Southeast US. Not a single Japanese Beetle or Wooly Worm. Very few Catawba worms and few wasps. Not a single wasp nest was built under the eaves of the house this year.

We have spiders everywhere, all kinds, some I haven't seen before. Also, a lot of snakes this year, much more than usual. My little Jack Russell got snake bit this summer (she usually gets them) and was paralyzed for three days. She's OK now.



yep, snakes are plenty, heard nothing on them just the insects and spiders.

another opion of mine is if they are controlled, could it be they are to go after and destroy food sources in ag, storage or even whats being stored in the cupboards? ok, I'm reaching far into left field. just tossing it out there.
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Rats are my biggest concern about food storage. I have metal bins handy if needed and ALL food is kept in hard containers. The Jack Russell keeps them away from the house, but plenty in the wild in the woods and they are aggressive.

When winter gets cold, they climb onto the engine under the hood of my car and chew the ignition wires. Have tried moth balls to keep them out of the car engine, but does not always work. I hope everyone is thinking ahead about proper storage of food and supplies.
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hello tut, always a pleasure to see you too.
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Those spideys sound terrible! Have you tried borax? That's what we used on boats - non toxic and all. Lay down some rails around where they hang out. it gets rid of all bugs for three generations.
edit to say> It dehydrates 'em

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Something is very different this year here in the Southeast US. Not a single Japanese Beetle or Wooly Worm. Very few Catawba worms and few wasps. Not a single wasp nest was built under the eaves of the house this year.

We have spiders everywhere, all kinds, some I haven't seen before. Also, a lot of snakes this year, much more than usual. My little Jack Russell got snake bit this summer (she usually gets them) and was paralyzed for three days. She's OK now.



yep, snakes are plenty, heard nothing on them just the insects and spiders.

another opion of mine is if they are controlled, could it be they are to go after and destroy food sources in ag, storage or even whats being stored in the cupboards? ok, I'm reaching far into left field. just tossing it out there.



Rats are my biggest concern about food storage. I have metal bins handy if needed and ALL food is kept in hard containers. The Jack Russell keeps them away from the house, but plenty in the wild in the woods and they are aggressive.

When winter gets cold, they climb onto the engine under the hood of my car and chew the ignition wires. Have tried moth balls to keep them out of the car engine, but does not always work. I hope everyone is thinking ahead about proper storage of food and supplies.
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if these things are controlled, energize those containers to short them little bastards.
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'down under' down under!! Classic. Yes, our dunnys spiral flush the other way too.

Things are good here Woodie. Relatively speaking.

I did say about an hour ago, that I best be off and do some work....

Cya all.
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hello tut, always a pleasure to see you too.

Those spideys sound terrible! Have you tried borax? That's what we used on boats - non toxic and all. Lay down some rails around where they hang out. it gets rid of all bugs for three generations.
edit to say> It dehydrates 'em
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yep, done that, use to get huge bags of it in Mojave when I would pass through there often. makes a mess though. I have not used borax here in florida. spider sappin up the rails of borax, now thats a site.

little miss muffet
sat on her tuffet
smokin her pot in the park

along come a spider
sat down beside her
and said
busted bitch I'm a narc



yark, yark, yark
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No idea why, but I have always trusted the spiders. I live in NEO and have seen the hairiest spiders ever in almost 30 years. But I cannot bring myself to kill them, beside they keep out just about everything else from the house.
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Just wanted to clarify something I said about Martin's book.
About 'padding'. By that I guess when it was recommended to me bu my Mum of all people, whe said it read like a spy thriller. (similar to this thread) I knew there must have been some embellishment and padding to make it read like that was all I meant. Regards the bomb, that info really motivated me to look more deeply in to it. I was very dissappointed that the 'facts' were either incorrectly written and reported or totally false, which called the rest of the read in to question.
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No idea why, but I have always trusted the spiders. I live in NEO and have seen the hairiest spiders ever in almost 30 years. But I cannot bring myself to kill them, beside they keep out just about everything else from the house.
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That would include me if I lived there!
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Hi Woodie,

If that's the case, I'm sealing my windows and back door. And triple sealing my foods with heavy duty storage containers. That is just wild. But, anything is possible.

How ya doing? Going easy on the fishing, I've heard debates both for bad and good, but I personally refuse to eat any fish products. period.



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hello tut, always a pleasure to see you too.

Those spideys sound terrible! Have you tried borax? That's what we used on boats - non toxic and all. Lay down some rails around where they hang out. it gets rid of all bugs for three generations.
edit to say> It dehydrates 'em



yep, done that, use to get huge bags of it in Mojave when I would pass through there often. makes a mess though. I have not used borax here in florida. spider sappin up the rails of borax, now thats a site.

little miss muffet
sat on her tuffet
smokin her pot in the park

along come a spider
sat down beside her
and said
busted bitch I'm a narc



yark, yark, yark
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You funny hunny!
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Hi Woodie,

If that's the case, I'm sealing my windows and back door. And triple sealing my foods with heavy duty storage containers. That is just wild. But, anything is possible.

How ya doing? Going easy on the fishing, I've heard debates both for bad and good, but I personally refuse to eat any fish products. period.



spock
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hello isis going ok. sorry, gtta get some zzzzzzzz early start this morning. take care ya'all catch up later
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No idea why, but I have always trusted the spiders. I live in NEO and have seen the hairiest spiders ever in almost 30 years. But I cannot bring myself to kill them, beside they keep out just about everything else from the house.
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When I lived in the wilds of Hawaii, the cane spiders, a bashful if large lot, kept down the cockroaches and the gekkos ate the skeeters - all I had to do was watch the show.
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