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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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OK Folks ~

Go right ahead ~

ignore leading questions about strange canisters (R*E*N*O) (v. canisters in government briefcases), unregistered ships sinking, Zionists, Russia and Reno, another huge unexplained oil disaster (the main BEZERK topic?
) ~

yet again, affecting wildlike in Australia and New Zealand [BHD?].


Not your scene? Can't cope? Not your reality, BEZERKERS?

Never mind ~ here's yesterday's NEWS from NASA, which just might be as important? Try this instead.


"NASA held a media teleconference yesterday (Thursday) Feb. 7th, to discuss asteroid 2012 DA14 [/b]which will have a very close flyby of Earth on Feb. 15, 2013. Also discussed are NASA's effhuhe oil disasterorts to find potentially hazardous near-Earth objects.

I would suggest NASA
is a bit more nervous than they project. I believe I counted between 11 and 15 disclaimers during their conference. They also produced three videos - also with punctuated disclaimers. I'm not saying they are hiding information, I'm just saying there's probably a few beads of sweat on those monitoring".

[See: by Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media]

That's It now. Over to you BEZERKER Folks.
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Something like 10% of the worlds submarines are gathered in the Gulf of Mexico. What the fuck are they all doing there or rather what the fuck are they looking for? DED shows 12 US, 2 French, 3 British, 2 Russian, 1 Canadian, 3 German, 1 Israeli and 2 Unknown submarines
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there is an activating stargate there that has a counterpart in nibiru
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Something like 10% of the worlds submarines are gathered in the Gulf of Mexico. What the fuck are they all doing there or rather what the fuck are they looking for? DED shows 12 US, 2 French, 3 British, 2 Russian, 1 Canadian, 3 German, 1 Israeli and 2 Unknown submarines
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there is an activating stargate there that has a counterpart in nibiru
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correction, the one which has a counterpart in nibiru is in iraq. the one in the gulf may be a more generic portal
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Thank you AC for this information!!!

Really the Israeli's again?
Just like the hypersonic fast silent Isri sub in the GOM.... (Check OP's ONLY)

And remember J I M Stone with his research that prooved Isri involvement in planting heavy unusual safety camera systems at Fukushima! Never executed or done by Isri's before!!!

Many months ago after the CHrist Church EQ and Fukushima, I suspected a connection there and looked at plate tectonics and suggested that CC was used to lateron trigger certain dynamics that would add in the Japan disaster, by using the connected magma chambers.
Japan was not hit by Nature and natural forces, but by operational intended forces with dark agenda's.

The fusion of China and Japan after the 13e Oct briefcase-event was a direct threat to the crown and dominion that the other worldparties want to obtain... The Brits and the US-Isri bonds...
I bet that the capt of that ship you mention was talking to PM Puttin' s advisors!!!!


Good note indeed about the smuggling and the empty canisters....

XXX MzK



...


Follow up on this -

I recieved a call from AMSA, regards my email and phone call.

The gentleman was quite short with me, and mentioned that they had ruled out the Rena as being the source. It was, apparently the first thing they thought of. In fact 'impossible' was the word he used, citing that currents would not allow anything to travel from the tip of NZ to East coast OZ.

"For that to happen, the container would have done a full lap of the Pacific. Impossible. It would get caught up in the gyre.

Besides, the Rena was not carrying aluminium phosphate, or anything harmful, a side from the recycled oil.

[really?.... how about the ferrosilicate??]

So, thanks for your interest, but you are incorrect".

"We believe it came off a ship during a recent storm. Have you contacted any news services with this information? Have you spoken to any one else about this, out of interest? Have you seen or do you have one of these canisters?"

BHD - "Nope..."

"Good, good. OK, I just thought that I would do you the courtesy of a phone call to clear this up."






WTF?!!!! Bit creeepy! hiding
 Quoting: BadHairDay



Yeah can believe that felt scary...
But you know what it feels like to me?
To much effort to deny... And make sure you did not have or collect such a canister!
To me it tells that we came to close near the truth.
Watta u think would happen if it became public that the RENA did carry secret contents/cargo not listed on official shipping lists?
Thus they have all benefit to silence every leak-danger..... Or wake up a passionate Sher(un)lock Holmes.

There might be a possibility these canisters are indeed not directly FROM the RENA, but are deffinatelly related or connected with the operation behind this ship...
I do trust my instincts and when something is screamed so loud in my head, then somewhere there ISvgl a CONNECTION, but not as obvious as thought.

That's my penny on it....


XXX MzK
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The RENA was interesting. A Joint owned ship 49% being owned by Israel. It had been previously impounded in Australia [I think] and was deemed not to be fit for sea. The Vessel had been long suspected in being involved in smuggling things for the Israeli government [this is just information that became available in the MSM press].

You don't know what they dropped off first before the crash.
It reminded me of the Mikhail Lermontov incident.
1986 16 Feb the vessel indicated to be the Mikhail Lermontov Sunk in the Marlborough Sounds. It lies directly between the Two US operated Spy Bases in NZ.

This is what happened.
The vessel at the bottom of the Sounds is clearly not the same vessel as the one entered in the Loyd's of London register. It had 3 NZ pilots on board for the Strait crossing and navigation of the Marlborough Sounds. According the Maritime inquiry the Vessel scraped on one side [the side facing down on the bottom] but marks are visible on the upward facing side also. It scraped on both sides, a passenger vessel was loaded down to the loading limit lines, that is damn near impossible for a passenger vessel, it would have to be loaded with cargo as well to do that and a lot of cargo.

What happened after hitting the rocks was even more remarkable. The Ship then continued into the sounds before taking on enough water to start listing. Rather than call NZ authorities as the Pilots suggested the Captain called Russia directly and started a conversation in Russian that we can only speculate about. At this point the captain took control and beached the Ship nose first on one of the many sandy beaches that line the Sounds and many adjoining bays. At this stage passengers say they witnessed three rubber dinghy's with about 20 or more people dressed in black on board depart the ship paddle for the shore and disappear into he scrub.
The ship was perfectly beached and safe, but the Captain then decides to back it out to more deep water still refusing the pilot's request to contact NZ Authorities. He then proceeds to find the spot where the vessel lies and let it sink, finally contacting NZ authorities to come and pick up the disembarking passengers on the life boats.

The Russian government spent 12 months recovering whatever was in the bottom of that Ship and banned all people from the spot and diving in the Area while they completed their task. The NZ Government said there was no need for an Inquiry into the incident which caused an Immediate strike by the NZ maritime Union as this was unprecedented and they forced the inquiry to take place.
Without the inquiry we would not have known the ship was beached and in good order then put back to water and allowed to sink, while in communication with he Russian government the whole time. For some strange reason the ships manifest was out by 28 crew, no explanation was ever offered as to why.

Who knows what the Russians were up to, clearly they had found another Ship dressed it up as the Mikhail Lurmentov tasked for some sort or purpose if not exactly what took place later. Whatever it was, it was very heavy equipment and was fine with being underwater.

When the RENA went into the rocks I wondered what the Israeli's were smuggling into the country. NZ has had problems with their spy's. The Previous PM kicked them out of the country for 6 months[closed their embassy] while we kept 6 of their spies on ice, all for being caught making Fake passports for their spies using the dead names of NZ kids from cemeteries, the classic really. It made countries look much harder at NZ passports which wouldn't have made our Allies happy who also use fake NZ passports but with NZ sanction.

A group of Israeli spies was uncovered during the aftermath of the Christchurch Earthquake and quickly covered up after 5 phone calls from the Israeli PM to the NZ PM in the space of 4 hours, apparently unprecedented in NZ Israel relations. The NZ PM when questioned just said they were chatting. It was quickly covered up and had to be rewritten after some of the NZ press were a little quick off the mark and used real facts instead of supplied facts.

We know the Israeli's come here to spy on what the USA is spying on. They might be doing something else [like spying on UFO flight testing or observing what gets sent to Antarctica from NZ] but we are not sure.
Interestingly enough we know the NZ Spy agency was using the Spy bases to intercept U.N communications during the 80's, aorund 80% of what they were doing involved spying on the U.N. [presumably on behalf of HRM, or the CIA/NSA].
I know a guy who was in Coms in the NZ Army who had done some exercises in the Spy base. He just told me it was a communications set up that could transmit and pickup on transmissions pretty much everywhere on the planet. The Twin Domes are usually covered so no satellites can see which direction the dishes are facing.

There is one in the South Island of NZ and one in the North, and the Mikhail Lurmentov is in a linctly between the two.

Who knows what was on the RENA. My Brother looked into it, a lot of the containers were listed as Empty, he says that is where you smuggle stuff, the empty containers are always on the outside of the stacks to protect the good cargo. The real valuable containers are on the inside compartments, those would have been intact for the most part.
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 Quoting: MzK 33867305


how come i get banned 6 wks for that and you seem unaffected? cool2
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<snip>
This was interesting, part of a piece I was researching to right up on practical methods of Altering reality. Part of a bigger picture.
[link to www.wakingtimes.com]
It had many connections to pieces I had already written and a few I had read. It was the Aboriginal piece that connected for me as I have seen scientific experiments showing we are set back .35 seconds behind the breaking wave of reality. The experimenters didn't understand their own experimental results and had draw other conclusions [such as we have no free will] but the implications were there for people who were a fraction more worldly than them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858603


Thanks for this one, AC603!!

Was thinking about BHD's earlier post, challenging us to speak on our 'big picture' take... Couldn't put it into words that would make sense. This article touches on that wordless knowing nicely!

Thank goodness! My head nearly exploded last night while trying to pin that butterfly down! lol

Reading the article triggered a memory...
I had a dreamtime visit with a grandmother during a particularly difficult bit of life. I wanted her advice so badly that I found myself at a 'school between lives' where she was/is/will be? an admin of sorts. After our visit, and being told to have a look around, I insisted to my 'guide' that I had to return to life and fulfill my obligations. She was adamant that I could Not return... It just wasn't done.

I insisted and began to run away from the school towards the distant forest. This snippet from the article linked describes that 'run' perfectly.

"“One morning he left his friends at Cotton Wood Island in Nevada and said he was going to the mouth of the Gila River in southern Arizona. He didn’t want anyone else along, but when he was out of sight, the others began tracking him. Beyond the nearby dunes his stride changed. The tracks looked as if he had just been staggering along, taking giant steps, his feet touching the ground at long irregular intervals, leaving prints that became further and further apart and lighter and lighter in the sand. When they got to Fort Yuma they learned that he had arrived at sunrise of the same day he had left them,” thus arriving before he departed. The runner’s altered perception enabled him to accomplish this feat; he did not allow himself to be bound by normal perceptions of time and space."

Now, if we can only figure out how to apply this knowledge (we all hold) in beneficial ways here... !
whistling a tune while dancing on the razor's edge

Thanks again!
hf
 Quoting: SouthernLight


reminds me of Carlos Castenada...
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Isis' vid on mercury >> gold. Very interesting.



hf
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from the comments setion.....



haviturway1000 1 month ago

"Alchemy - 'the speeding up of nature.' Lead eventually becomes gold, like a piece of coal can become a diamond. The stone for the alchemists was not about the&#65279; money, it was about the 'philosophy' - the 'wisdom' ('Sophia') gained from transmutation. How, you might ask? With the stone you can take lead & turn it into gold.Okay, now what? Well, keep turning up the heat and something very strange occurs. The diatomic element becomes a monatomic element of exotic matter. When it cools it looks like

a clear sheet of window pane glass. Only it's 'gold' aka Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements - aka ORMES. Next step - 'brake' it. Not, 'break' (although you have to&#65279; do that 1st), but 'brake' - transliterated means, 'to dissolve' in a mortar & pestle (the Alchemist's 'cup') into a fine white powder. Then? Ingest it. It is a pure light energy source, that is anti-gravitic, inter-dimensional & transferable to the 'host.' When you ingest 'the stone' you 'become' the host. Research it, it's true.

I know, I have been ingesting this amazing substance, that traditional science cannot explain, nor find on their spectrograph, for&#65279; nearly a decade. What has 'trans-mutated' in me, is my consciousness awareness. This is the 'red pill.' It was called by many names throughout written history in every 'corner' of the World. Even that term ("corner of the world") comes from Alchemy - "Squaring the Circle." Read the 'story' of Moses again. It is all about that calf he threw into the furnace & ground

to a powder. That's 'the food' they ate - ORMES - Hebrew for, "Tree of Life" - that bore the 'fruit' of the tree of knowledge of good & evil. This infamous 'tree' was called the tree of knowledge of truth & falsehood (originally) - because you can 'see' when someone is not being truthful. It's a blessing & a burden, so don't think it is just a 'gift' w/o caveats. There's so much more - Many intuitive developments & Spiritual insight await if&#65279; you're also inclined to know for yourself, like I did."



Shewbread

[link to www.subtleenergies.com]


...sun...


float
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OK Folks ~

Go right ahead ~


That's It now. Over to you BEZERKER Folks.

 Quoting: integrator


What? No research? No opinions or even speculation of your own, Fellow BEZERKER?

(whoopsie! note to self: Read in Sequence!
you DID do some digging... so sorry!)


Undoubtedly, you saw the defensive reaction (thinlyveiledthreat)... Jump on in there! lol
Surely, there are only a Few sharks in that water.

Sometimes, it seems prudent to watch from the sidelines and observe what grows in that petri dish, jmho.

hf

edited to add

603's full post is probably spot on...

<snipped>

Who knows what was on the RENA. My Brother looked into it, a lot of the containers were listed as Empty, he says that is where you smuggle stuff, the empty containers are always on the outside of the stacks to protect the good cargo. The real valuable containers are on the inside compartments, those would have been intact for the most part.
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Last Edited by SouthernLight on 02/08/2013 02:19 PM
We know more than we know and understand less than we think.
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Hey guys,
Just to let u know I am not on banca-tion but hard at work. And the next few days also.

Big hugs and all nice experiences,

OMG.. experience!
I almost forgot what I felt yesterday evening.

I was sitting in the train back home from a long intensive day of work and coaching. I was traveling facing the tail ofthe train, so my back towards the direction we move in.
I was pretty exhausted, and that made me more sensitive.
When I closed my eyes I was in a way "seeing" and "feeling" and sensing elements and particles passing through my body. I felt the atoms of the environment outside pass and cross trough the atoms of my body, and saw them disappear in the distance!
It was so clear that I was not SOLID... yes this was a kind of transparency experience. It was a fantastic sensation! So aware!
So beautiful to experience particles zapp trough like elongated shooting stars on a nightsky, almost like a soft and kind meteor shower passing trough your body that doesn't feel solid.. more like a consciousness then matter.
So peaceful this sensation!

I wonder ... I didn't got overloaded by the charge or data of the passing - traveling - crossing particles... And in this moment THAT makes it almost resembling neutrinos passing Earth and traveling trough matter without much interaction, but only the tails can be witnessed as Cherencov radiation!


Wauw....


XXX MzK
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Hey guys,
Just to let u know I am not on banca-tion but hard at work. And the next few days also.

Big hugs and all nice experiences,

OMG.. experience!
I almost forgot what I felt yesterday evening.

I was sitting in the train back home from a long intensive day of work and coaching. I was traveling facing the tail ofthe train, so my back towards the direction we move in.
I was pretty exhausted, and that made me more sensitive.
When I closed my eyes I was in a way "seeing" and "feeling" and sensing elements and particles passing through my body. I felt the atoms of the environment outside pass and cross trough the atoms of my body, and saw them disappear in the distance!
It was so clear that I was not SOLID... yes this was a kind of transparency experience. It was a fantastic sensation! So aware!
So beautiful to experience particles zapp trough like elongated shooting stars on a nightsky, almost like a soft and kind meteor shower passing trough your body that doesn't feel solid.. more like a consciousness then matter.
So peaceful this sensation!

I wonder ... I didn't got overloaded by the charge or data of the passing - traveling - crossing particles... And in this moment THAT makes it almost resembling neutrinos passing Earth and traveling trough matter without much interaction, but only the tails can be witnessed as Cherencov radiation!


Wauw....


XXX MzK
 Quoting: MzK 34061732


OK Folks ~

Go right ahead ~


That's It now. Over to you BEZERKER Folks.

 Quoting: integrator


What? No research? No opinions or even speculation of your own, Fellow BEZERKER?

(whoopsie! note to self: Read in Sequence!
you DID do some digging... so sorry!)


Undoubtedly, you saw the defensive reaction (thinlyveiledthreat)... Jump on in there! lol

Surely, there are only a Few sharks in that water.

Sometimes, it seems prudent to watch from the sidelines and observe what grows in that petri dish, jmho.

hf

edited to add

603's full post is probably spot on...

<snipped>

Who knows what was on the RENA. My Brother looked into it, a lot of the containers were listed as Empty, he says that is where you smuggle stuff, the empty containers are always on the outside of the stacks to protect the good cargo. The real valuable containers are on the inside compartments, those would have been intact for the most part.
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 Quoting: SouthernLight


Hi MzK What a remarkable and timely experience for you, with such clarity but .. be sure to morph back into our classical time frame, before you let go!

This BEZERK enjoys your FEEDBACK!

hf

BTW look at the main GLP site, for sure, where its said:

"Just talking Kabbalah and Alchemy,

Hope the Big Fish is caught..

Jupiter is going into Exhaltation this summer in Cancer. Might be a royal baby"
.

Illuminati | Hermetic Masonry | Zionism | Prophecy | Mystery Schools | Astro Theology menu ...

.. .and go to "To The Freemasons" about 5 down?

There you will find an interesting exposition of the schisms in that organisation, where possibly

The Big Fish
(few as there may be) reside, awaiting capitivity, in

The Underwater Weavers Basket!

YES! Southern Light

hf

I agree with you, 603 with his take on the R*E*N*A

see previous researches,

and the implications with amazing insight, has most certainly put his finger on sunken cargoes, illicit vessels, mysterious washed up canisters, (Good hairless knight has so far, gone quiet on this?), Trillions of unearned and corrupted DOLLARS $$$, Zionists, Russians whoever else, where The Biggest SHARKS

are lurking about, ~ best to watch the petrie dish and the GOM laboratory, on the sidelines? Why Not!

Recall: The Spotlight of Consciousness is a Sunlight By Itself.

THAT IS ALL ~ LOL.
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REMEMBER THAT TANKER "RENA" , OFF THE COAST OF NZ?


Well there are new posts and information that agree with my earlier statements that this EVENT WAS SET IN MOTION and was PART OF BEZERK !
I suggested that RENA was USED to OFFLOAD something in the waters, maybe to fight AUgie, or for other purposes.


I bolded some lines ...
Thx to Agapao:


This poster had alot to say on GLP and GHD I thought it tied in with your line of thought.

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Re: !!!!OIL SPILL TRAGEDY unfolding on pristine NEW ZEALAND coast, NEW UPDATES!!!

Another thing to consider, in light of Fukushima/Fullford conspiracies, is the placement of ordinance for future use. Something on the seabed. Keep in mind other factors as well IF looking at the conspiracy mindset. Like the Titanic not actually hitting an iceberg and being fired upon by a German U-boat which is the most likely scenario. The explanation that an ice berg could sink a ship to me is perposterous. I run my ship in 4 to 5 foot solid blue ice every year at speeds of 10 to 12 knots for hundreds of miles. Just saying. If this Greek ship was trying to save itself, perhaps, just perhaps, it intentionally ran up on the shoal to keep from going down. It is why someone must talk to the officers and be ready to record the statement and have their bullshit meter on High. I am sure the officers are scared shitless though and being censored by their lawyers preparing for a mega lawsuit. After all this is said and done and the ship is gone, New Zealand citizens should employ side scan sonar, I'm sure someone has this, and sweep the entire area for things on the seabed. If the area is shoaled enough it may even be possible to dive anything that is found. After all, TPTB should be salvaging any containers that fell. Especially if they contain toxic material. I would also scan local fault lines and other strategic areas on the seabed as it would be very easy for a dive team to float with nuetral boyancy a container without being detected by overhead cameras. All in all, please be dilligent with the ongoings of this event. I'm telling you many things do not add up. If you watch you'll probably reveal suspicious activity which can be exploited and ultimately prevent some malicious plans on part of the blood drinkers. Fair winds and following seas. I gotta go.

As of today the are saying 80 containers have washed overboard yet on the 12th they said 88. They claim 30 are missing but are not saying what is in them. They must know what is in them or at least what the manifesto says (but of couse that doesnt have to be correct) We sent quite a few containers to UK so I have some idea of the paper work involved.

 Quoting: Agapao


bump2
FIRST: We heared the CODE 88 before !!!
Remember the 88 dead Cubans on a vessel in the gom ?

SECONDLY: We all remember OP saying that explosives were arranged on the oceanfloors and trenches to be detonated. A special sequence and keys were needed to activate them. There are several OP-posts that speak of the attempts to destroy these 'weapons' ... Remember also the SAMPSON-option ...
These "Explosives" are most probably also used to create/induce the EQ's and Tsunami that hit Fukushima/Japan.
You will find proof and confirmation reading through the ONLY OP's POSTS-thread : [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


-OP 1:56 AM 7/23/2010 Good day, I just want you to know that at 01:18 this morning paris time 2us reported that they Observed around 88 dead on an abandoned cuban registered surface vessel. (my girlfriend think most may be cuban refugees, but I'm not sure) 2us captain reported monitoring a chinese vessel giving "limited" assistance to a US surface vessel who was towing and evacuating the cuban vessel. the US surface Vessel was NOT from the US Coast Guard but they followed high level bio quarantine procedure (translation problem) (pag 338)
 Quoting: OP



So not only the CODE 88 was used but it both linked to TOXIC circumstances and L3 BIO HAZARD conditions !!!

To me the change from 88 into 80 indicates that things/situations have changed or goals have been reached according to plan ...

(L3 = level 3, ... or not ?)
Remember L3 ??? --->



11/17/2010 4:12 PM

I just got home and found this in the email. Originally recieved this at 11:53 am EST. from acolyte

(Received and Posted AS-IS two hours ago PARIS Time)

TIOTE, Zero"2" at all Zero"6" Stations. Report all Zero"6" Positives's.
A Big positive that L3 Backbone have been compromised for the past 7 Days.
Monitoring in place. STB on L3.
14 Hours ago Ossetia received Running Silent Order from KremPP.,, Priority Alert status scheduled for 21 November until 26 November. This includes Commercial Airliners. REPEAT. This Includes ALL Commercial Airlines on A GLO"B"AL ALERT,., Fighter Escorts (MIL-AF) not possible.
Egypt has joined China. REPEAT. Egypt no longer part of ODESSA.
Call Sign Designations: "SIERRA 1" , "WHISKEY 4" and "JULIET 3"

 Quoting: OP



More info and posts on the "Toxic CARGO" and lost/missing 80/88 containers


--snip--
With regards to the hazardous cargo - all of that cargo has to have the Masters approval before it's loaded and usually the hazardous cargo is loaded last...chances are that these containers are in the top stacks so may have allready gone overboard. The location of these containers also depends on which port they are meant to be discharged.
 Quoting: BorgQueen



"The Rena's skipper and second officer have faced a further charge when they reappeared in Tauranga District Court today.
Maritime New Zealand announced earlier this morning both men, who have name suppression, faced a fresh charge under the Resource Management Act.
It related to the "discharge of harmful substances from ships or offshore installations".
The RMA charge carries a maximum penalty of a fine of $300,000, or two years' imprisonment, and $10,000 for every day the offending continues.
The Master and Second Officer (Navigation) had earlier been charged by Maritime New Zealand (MNZ) under the Maritime Transport Act, "for operating a vessel in a manner causing unnecessary danger or risk".
At their appearance in the Tauranga District Court this morning they were remanded on bail to appear again before Christmas.
Meanwhile the Rena has held together overnight, despite fears the stricken container ship was finally about to break.
...
A storm enveloping the already battered cargo vessel was forecast to have brought swells of up to 5m overnight, prompting fresh warnings of oil spills and more lost containers."
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Breezy


Funny to mention is that in Tauranga a SHIP LOST POWER a few days before ...

Ship runs aground at Tauranga harbour entrance
[link to www.stuff.co.nz]
snips:
The Schelde Trader was leaving port when it lost power, he said.
He said the ship appeared to have sustained only minor damage and was not taking on water or losing oil.
The ship had just taken on fuel for a long trip to the Pacific Islands and was also loaded with containers though he did not know what was in them.
He said the last similar case he could remember was about 18 months ago.
The grounding comes nearly a month after the container ship Rena hit the Astrolabe Reef off the Tauranga coast. The 236 metre-long Rena remains on the reef as salvors try to pump oil from it.



haven't we heard about a couple cruise ships, and at least one English naval vessel totally losing power out on the seas?? HMS Astute, and cruise ships...MSC Opera 5/2011, Carnival Fascination 7/2010, Carnival Splendor 11/2010 in different parts of the world) interesting and bears watching...


Tnx to Phillip:

A blogger has been barred from sending updates on the Rena salvage operation after posting a string of behind-the-scenes insights into the disaster and the perils and logistics of the salvage. The postings on the "Antipodean Mariner" blogsite are from a crew member of the Go Canopus, a multi-purpose tug recovering oil from the Rena.

Recent posts reveal frustration at the 12-month timetable to remove the ship's containers and suggest the officer on watch on the night of the disaster altered course, putting the Rena on a collision course with the Astrolabe Reef.
The posts ran almost daily for three weeks and dwell on the challenges facing the salvors, including the stench and maggots from rotting freezer containers.
But the blogger signed off on Thursday after a New Zealand regulatory agency objected and he was warned of a non-disclosure clause in his contract. The posts were being followed in New Zealand, Australia, Southeast Asia, Russia and Scotland.

A post last Sunday says: "AIS data suggests that the officer of the watch altered the vessel's course to make directly for the pilot station. Unfortunately for him (and the ship) there was a well-charted reef between him and the pilot!"
The ship's second officer was tasked with the navigational watch, the Herald reported last month. He faces charges along with the Rena's captain.
A seafaring source noted that several variables could affect any decision to change course, such as out-of-date charts, incorrect setting or failure to account for tide or wind.

A Maritime NZ spokeswoman said the organisation was not responsible for closing down the blogsite. With two investigations under way, it could not comment about the change-of-course claim.

What the blogger wrote:
-Thursday, October 27
"I would hate to guess what the daily cost is for all of this. Personnel, hotel bills, helicopters, support boats and shipping charter costs are not cheap, so the NZ taxpayer will end up footing a phenomenal bill for it all ... No doubt that will all come out during the upcoming electioneering."

-Thursday, Nov 3
"Spare a thought for the salvage team. Apparently the stench of rotting flesh is now all-pervasive on board the Rena, with many of them retching continuously in certain work areas."

-Friday, Nov 4
"Prior to working on the poop [deck], the salvors had to run a fire pump ... to wash the maggots overboard. The fish are getting very fat and thriving out here."

-Monday, Nov 7
"We have been advised that the container salvage reps ... quoted a rate of removal of three containers per day and estimated that it would take a year to unload. WTF! - that rate makes even the Brisbane wharfies look good.
"Mother Nature will have it emptied for them long before a year is out. A summer cyclone will have it unloaded in less than 24 hours. I would be appalled if Maritime NZ signed up for that deal ..."

-Tuesday, Nov 8
"Spare a thought for the personnel on the Awanuia. They are moored 30m down wind of the stern of the Rena. Every moment on deck they would be exposed to the stench emanating from the rotting contents of the freezer containers. I would assume that their air condition system is set to recycle.
"...It is probably not noticeable to the casual observer, but there is further compression buckling of the hull apparent at the water line at low tide ... To the non-mariners, think of her as slightly bent to the left, like a banana. It appears that the incessant harmonic motions of wind, tide, tidal stream (tide-induced current), waves and swell, appear to have finally severed the spine of the Rena. The Dutch salvage rep on board ... confirmed that there is now a 60cm movement in all directions, between the forward and aft sections."
[link to antipodeanmariner.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Phillip



While the salvage operation continues all boats are banned from entering a massive area around the shipwreck. And it could take seven months to empty Rena. ONE News reporter Heather du Plessis-Allan said fishing boats sit in Tauranga harbour and local fishermen said they cannot wait seven months or more to be allowed back into their fishinggrounds. Deep Star Charters Operator Garth le Lievre claims Rena has cost him half his business already.

[link to tvnz.co.nz]

 Quoting: Tauranga


Why the BANNING? (just like with the DWH ...)
And why does it has to take SEVEN MONTHS ?? Why so long ???


An other strange occurance is that they sprayed COREXIT when there was NO FRESH OIL !!!.

Phillip: "They sprayed Corexit during the first 36 hours and then stopped as the media jumped on it like bees to honey....and thank god for that....."

BHD: " An interesting admission by those who use corexit regularly, is that "you have to get the corexit on it [the oil] within the first 36 hours, after that it is less effective." And they refer to 'fresh' oil too. Oil that is fresh out the ground.
The gunk coming out of the Rena is not fresh in any regard."



Well, so far BEZERKNESS reagarding the RENA.
Tnx all.

 Quoting: Krispy71


Just freshly reminding you Folks about the R*E*N*A disaster ~ to follow this up go to this GLP site, then search: RENA.

Put 2 and 3 together, then hurry and join all the dots...!

BTW The suggestion to watch the new site ~ "To The Masons," talking about catching The Really Big, GREEDY Sharks ~ in The Underwater Weavers Basket !

Has been equally hurriedly removed from the main GLP site

Are you surprised?

Really Big Sharks don't like the idea of being caught any more than you and I do!

THAT IS ALL.
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Hello P/P/P/I

Tnx for bringing up those earlier posts. I still stand behind what I posted back then.


As said before, no time to do propper research right now. As from Wednesday I am free again.


Have a nice day all.
Xxx MzK
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Hello P/P/P/I

Tnx for bringing up those earlier posts. I still stand behind what I posted back then.


As said before, no time to do propper research right now. As from Wednesday I am free again.


Have a nice day all.
Xxx MzK
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Hi, Kerispy ~ thanks for your reassurance about the earlier posts.

BEZERKERS here really owe it to you for your hard work and many initatives, in researching and developing this particular site.

I am in the middle of browsing through all the refs to RENA ~ and possible connections to AuGie and GOM. and have found remarkable insights from BHD, agapo, Cosmos and so on.

I will highlight some KEY issues shortly for the sake of the record once you are back in business shortly.

LoL hf
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Interesting DNA thread today...

DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…
Thread: DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…

from the link provided:
"The team achieved incredible results using vibration and language. For instance, they successfully transmitted information patterns from one set of DNA to another. Eventually, they were even able to reprogram cells to another genome — they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without lifting a single scalpel or making one incision."

....!
We know more than we know and understand less than we think.
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Hello P/P/P/I

Tnx for bringing up those earlier posts. I still stand behind what I posted back then.


As said before, no time to do propper research right now. As from Wednesday I am free again.


Have a nice day all.
Xxx MzK
 Quoting: MzK 34061732


Hi, Kerispy ~ thanks for your reassurance about the earlier posts.

BEZERKERS here really owe it to you for your hard work and many initatives, in researching and developing this particular site.

I am in the middle of browsing through all the refs to RENA ~ and possible connections to AuGie and GOM. and have found remarkable insights from BHD, agapo, Cosmos and so on.

I will highlight some KEY issues shortly for the sake of the record once you are back in business shortly.

LoL hf
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Hi PPPI

No one ows me anything!!!!!!!!!

I did the hard work and research with pleasure and unconditionally!!!

This site is a compilation of many people their devotion, passion and pleasure! Many people inspired me and without them this thread wouldn't have been what it is and has become.
Dont put me on a pedestal, we are a joined effort.


XXX Mzk
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@MzK: Glad to see you here again! :) and happy your work is so busy. Do you get time-and-a-half (Extra pay) for all the extra hours you are working?

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Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als Schrecken ohne Ende." Deutsche Sprichwort
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Interesting DNA thread today...

DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…
Thread: DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…

from the link provided:
"The team achieved incredible results using vibration and language. For instance, they successfully transmitted information patterns from one set of DNA to another. Eventually, they were even able to reprogram cells to another genome — they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without lifting a single scalpel or making one incision."

....!
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Most interesting that the researchers were Russian.

It will be interesting to see whether any other country's researchers can do the same experiment.

My gut tells me the ones who will be able to, will be the same countries with deep ice lake access in Antarctica.

With great power and knowledge, comes great responsibility.

Are 'we', collectively, up for it?
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Interesting DNA thread today...

DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…
Thread: DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…

from the link provided:
"The team achieved incredible results using vibration and language. For instance, they successfully transmitted information patterns from one set of DNA to another. Eventually, they were even able to reprogram cells to another genome — they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without lifting a single scalpel or making one incision."

....!
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Most interesting that the researchers were Russian.

It will be interesting to see whether any other country's researchers can do the same experiment.

My gut tells me the ones who will be able to, will be the same countries with deep ice lake access in Antarctica.

With great power and knowledge, comes great responsibility.

Are 'we', collectively, up for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30857551


WHos we?
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Hello P/P/P/I

Tnx for bringing up those earlier posts. I still stand behind what I posted back then.


As said before, no time to do propper research right now. As from Wednesday I am free again.


Have a nice day all.
Xxx MzK
 Quoting: MzK 34061732


Hi, Kerispy ~ thanks for your reassurance about the earlier posts.

BEZERKERS here really owe it to you for your hard work and many initatives, in researching and developing this particular site.

I am in the middle of browsing through all the refs to RENA ~ and possible connections to AuGie and GOM. and have found remarkable insights from BHD, agapo, Cosmos and so on.

I will highlight some KEY issues shortly for the sake of the record once you are back in business shortly.

LoL hf
 Quoting: integrator

Hi PPPI

No one ows me anything!!!!!!!!!

I did the hard work and research with pleasure and unconditionally!!!

This site is a compilation of many people their devotion, passion and pleasure! Many people inspired me and without them this thread wouldn't have been what it is and has become.
Dont put me on a pedestal, we are a joined effort.

XXX Mzk
 Quoting: MzK 34131665


OK KRISPERS ~ have it your own way but, without you, GHK (Good Hairless Knight)

and a few others,

Bezerkers
wouldn't be where they are, today
!

In spite or perhaps because of several lurkers, guaranteed to toss in their sneyd remarks and non sequiturs ~

like Hans the Malevolent and his Hook, Line and Stinker approach?

Back to RENA & Associates, the immediately central focus of our problem, we need a few researchers in USA,

to souse out the owners and major controllers of this giant wasps nest?

A few very Big, Greedy Sharks here, awaiting capture in the Giant Underwater Net, Loom & Shuttle?

Any offers?

Meantime thanks anyway.
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Hi PPPI

For me personally you are crossing some lines regarding your personal outings about people who I see as my friends... Like about Hans and BHD. I personally dont like the tone you are setting and the vibration you are resonating.

Maybe you are not aware about the way you are experienced.
There are many skills that you contributed with in this thread, and many thank you for that, but many do not understand and like the way you are transpiring and manifesting right now. ... Dont mean this harshly but it's a bit agressieve and dominant.
Please soften up my friend.
I know you want forward, and are sometimes disappointed in the tempo in which people and subjects go in this thread... Some things need time my dear, you can't hurry up a collective entity that we all togetter have become. There is or are no captains, but only consciously growing and developing souls-people who are respected for their own being and unique contribution.

Showing respect for exactly that and giving space to development and uniqueness has made this thread great and survive.

You, I, nobody can make people speed up and understand (=absorb) more then they are ready for or able to in that and each moment. We always have to respect that.
It's okay.
Its all as it is right....


Take a breath and enjoy the sensation.

The RENA is in a petrydish... Have faith and relax.


XxxMzK
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I stand corrected, KRISPY.

Bearing in mind, The Spotlight of (your) consciousness is a Sunlight by Itself

Seems by your observations you may be becoming a sixth density entity?

From The Law of One which really speaks for itself, we can learn:

Q: "In your last statement did you mean that the sixth density entities are actually creating manifestations of the sun in their density?

Could you explain what you meant by that?"

Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body.

Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

Questioner: "Then could you say that sixth-density entities are using that mechanism to be more closely co-Creators with the infinite Creator?

Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct as seen in the latter portions of sixth density seeking the experiences of

The Gateway Density.
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is this the official MySQL thread to test the indexing capability of InnoDB??
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Interesting DNA thread today...

DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…
Thread: DNA Science and What Russian Researchers Have Surprisingly Discovered…

from the link provided:
"The team achieved incredible results using vibration and language. For instance, they successfully transmitted information patterns from one set of DNA to another. Eventually, they were even able to reprogram cells to another genome — they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without lifting a single scalpel or making one incision."

....!
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Most interesting that the researchers were Russian.

It will be interesting to see whether any other country's researchers can do the same experiment.

My gut tells me the ones who will be able to, will be the same countries with deep ice lake access in Antarctica.

With great power and knowledge, comes great responsibility.

Are 'we', collectively, up for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30857551


WHos we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20574169


The collective Human race
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is this the official MySQL thread to test the indexing capability of InnoDB??
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Maybe, or kindergarten for a few...
[link to www.a-i.com]

to add:
The Hal Nursery
list of the 'Hal' (bot) personalities you can speak with
[link to www.a-i.com]

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Valuable web resources

This is the best video sniping site, you don't have to buy the app, just use it and let it use Java.

Keepvid.com

Internet explorer hates this, but Google chrome works fine.
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Thanks RoXY. Is it like Jdownloader?

Watching these YT (and other) vids on a wide screen TV is so much nicer!!
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Valuable web resources

This is the best video sniping site, you don't have to buy the app, just use it and let it use Java.

Keepvid.com

Internet explorer hates this, but Google chrome works fine.
 Quoting: RoXY


Thanks for that RoXY!
Just found your UFO thread too!
Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos

Those Alien Races vids on page 18 are Most Excellent! Wow!
hf
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Where in Kalgoorlie?
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Thought I would share this here -

Is there a call
So deep that we didn't hear
So loud
That we could only turn our backs

Pretend it wasn't there
It wasn't real
Looking at eachothers mask smiling, knowing
Nothing

Is there a truth in you
Still burning
Even the dimmest of flames
To be awakened

Somewhere in between those good intentions
And half-hearted tries
Did we get lost
Of ourselves?

And balance is dawning
From all that we see
All that we fear
Where will that take us?

Will be lost at a sea
Even to confused to drown
Will we be like the dinosaurs
Outdated, out of time
Out of truth?

Or is there just this
Light to grasp
Heart to hold
That heartbeat of us all
To remember
To be

Could we make that choice
For ourselves
For all
For balance to grow
Grow for real
Through you, through me
Together

Could we go that deeper
Letting go of all that does not matter
Truly

To be that difference
That truth we always were
To shine

Balance will be
Will spring
Into what is
And what will come

Do we flow with it
Or fight against it
Fight ourselves

To loose or win
It doesn't matter
Is not real

War start inside ourselves
Hiding our fears
Our dreams
So deep

Light and darkness
What do we fear the most

Could there be just a road between
A balance
In you

Could there be a truer tone
For you
And all

Of our innermost
With words of flames
Truth is written

Our essence
Our spirit
Knows

Do you?
Care




We are what we make it
Our mask gives us choice
We are, till we break it
True balance will be


How long can even the biggest ego keep knocking at a closed door
That will never open
Before the ego is translucent
Oneness aligned

How many times will we try to force love
To take the light with power
To see it slip
Like grains of sand
Through our fingers
Gone

There are no real weapons
Only distractions
Of what is real

The destroyer
Of what is wrong
What is fake
Has no weapons
Only love
And fire

Fire of our Spirit
Reminding
Within the deepest mirror
Waters dark

To veil that golden egg
Cosmic new birth

Dawning from and through
Those of truth are walking

Balance will be
Real balance

Not how we think
Perception doesn't matter

Have faith
And be
Who you are

We might have deluded our minds by our shallow choices
We might have closed our hearts by turning away from that true love

Searching for reason in what is bend and detached
Looking for unity in what is separated and closed down

Bleeding our innocent hearts
Dishonoring our true Spirit

Yet there is really no real hiding
No place to forget it all

Still we may hear that call in our every heartbeat, every breathe
The very moment we make the deepest choice
The true intention

We are more than this
We are not empty shells at the shore
Waiting for the next wave to flow us away

We are the Ocean
The true Source dawns from us
Through us

There is no real hiding
From reality

Even the emptiness speaks it
Through the silence
Like golden crystals
Sparkling

We are this
And we do know to fly
To love
And to be real

Together


Thread: Is there a call, so deep we didn't hear?

Some really beautiful, powerful words and thoughts there, a real treat to see them on GLP, which can be quite an unkind place sometimes. ( a tulip growing in an onion patch )

Some bezerkness in some of those words too! hf





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