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Thought I would share this here -

...

Together


Thread: Is there a call, so deep we didn't hear?

Some really beautiful, powerful words and thoughts there, a real treat to see them on GLP, which can be quite an unkind place sometimes. ( a tulip growing in an onion patch )

Some bezerkness in some of those words too! hf
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Profound words BHD, they really are...
And seems to me there is an Integrator in yourself too LOL

hf

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I love that poem!!!
It goes deep indeed,
And does seem to touch bezerkness here and there.

Tnx for sharing!!!!


XxxMzK
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Update:

Newspaper: Louisiana sinkhole swallows another 5,000 square feet (PHOTO)

[link to enenews.com]
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this one from ElQ'a thread.
Thread: LIVE "ELF/ULF" MONITORING OF EARTHQUAKE PRECURSOR SIGNALS ON GLP. QUAKE FORECAST UP TO 6HRS IN ADVANCE...(((Updated Daily))) By ELQ. (Page 950)

hi MzK, Hans, good to hear from you both,
and,
hi and all fellow bezerks!

BHD, love your latest avatar, will want to add to my collection :)

grouphug
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Thought I would share this here -

Is there a call
So deep that we didn't hear
So loud
That we could only turn our backs

Pretend it wasn't there
It wasn't real
Looking at eachothers mask smiling, knowing
Nothing

Is there a truth in you
Still burning
Even the dimmest of flames
To be awakened
There is no real hiding
From reality

<Snip><Snip>

Even the emptiness speaks it
Through the silence
Like golden crystals
Sparkling


We are this
And we do know to fly
To love
And to be real

Together


Thread: Is there a call, so deep we didn't hear?

Some really beautiful, powerful words and thoughts there, a real treat to see them on GLP, which can be quite an unkind place sometimes. ( a tulip growing in an onion patch )

Some bezerkness in some of those words too! hf
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Absolutely, MzK!

Well Done BHD, they say poesy can express the deepest thoughts ~ how true. Thank you.

hf
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But beware, ~ before we get too complacent and,
referring to
John Casti's "X Events" (an ex member of the Rand Corporation):



“We are living in the most technologically advanced society ever known to humankind,” he writes in the concluding chapter,

“yet we continue to sow the seeds of our own destruction, seeds that… are able to develop into the destruction of our entire species.”


You Have Been Warned ~ That Is All.
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But beware, ~ before we get too complacent and,
referring to
John Casti's "X Events" (an ex member of the Rand Corporation):



“We are living in the most technologically advanced society ever known to humankind,” he writes in the concluding chapter,

“yet we continue to sow the seeds of our own destruction, seeds that… are able to develop into the destruction of our entire species.”


You Have Been Warned ~ That Is All.
 Quoting: INTEGRATOR 33673447


Bull fart smell !!!
That is pure fear-mongering !!

Technologically advanced yes, but that is not all to our individual spiritual and holistic advancement ... Many tech is to diffuse and distord.

EVERY SEED is a potential ... destruction is lack of consciousness and lack of faith ...

Utter BS that our species could be entirely destructed !!
We are the result of fractal manifestation !!!
WE are PART of the WHOLE, with destruction of 1 of the species that are part of the WHOLE, the whole structure would change.
Besides, we are not only 3D material manifestations, we are also fractal, quantum, multi dimensional entities in a vessel ...
The VESSEL at its own is not the reflection of an entire race or species ... a species is the combination of flavors and colors and experiences.

We are CO-MPLEX, we are not just a vessel.

WE [our species of vessels and entities] are not limmited to Earth, we are at more dimensions and celestial bodies !
We are fractal and quantum and multi dimensional.

To think we are the only Human species is comparable with thinking that Earth is the only inhabited planet around a sun .... lol ...


XXXK

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Happy Valentine's day - ladies. (and men, if so inclined...)

hearts :red_heart: flowas
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But beware, ~ before we get too complacent and,
referring to
John Casti's "X Events" (an ex member of the Rand Corporation):



“We are living in the most technologically advanced society ever known to humankind,” he writes in the concluding chapter,

“yet we continue to sow the seeds of our own destruction, seeds that… are able to develop into the destruction of our entire species.”


You Have Been Warned ~ That Is All.
 Quoting: INTEGRATOR 33673447


Bull fart smell !!!
That is pure fear-mongering !!

Technologically advanced yes, but that is not all to our individual spiritual and holistic advancement ... Many tech is to diffuse and distord.

EVERY SEED is a potential ... destruction is lack of consciousness and lack of faith ...

Utter BS that our species could be entirely destructed !!
We are the result of fractal manifestation !!!
WE are PART of the WHOLE, with destruction of 1 of the species that are part of the WHOLE, the whole structure would change.
Besides, we are not only 3D material manifestations, we are also fractal, quantum, multi dimensional entities in a vessel ...
The VESSEL at its own is not the reflection of an entire race or species ... a species is the combination of flavors and colors and experiences.

We are CO-MPLEX, we are not just a vessel.

WE [our species of vessels and entities] are not limmited to Earth, we are at more dimensions and celestial bodies !
We are fractal and quantum and multi dimensional.

To think we are the only Human species is comparable with thinking that Earth is the only inhabited planet around a sun .... lol ...


XXXK

(my account is back from banc a tion ... yippiehhhhh !!)
 Quoting: Krispy71


I think you might be a little harsh on Preper regards John Casti's work Krispness.

I've wondered if he is one of the RRRs, after reading the synopsis of the book mentioned.

It depends what frame of mind you read that statement above in. John Casti basically says our destiny is in our own hands, good or bad - its ours to make.

His forte is showing the tangled web we call society, and what happens if you pull on one thread, or worse, break a thread.

The results he speculates on are not what you would expect!

[link to www.viennareview.net]

Have a read, and see if you still feel the same way.

I would consider Casti a bezerker!!

If he was an RRR, then he would have been one of the guys who went against the concensus that the organism is bad, methinks.....


Bio - One of the pioneers of complexity science and systems theory, John L. Casti, Ph.D., is Senior Research Scholar at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis, where he heads an initiative on Extreme Events in Human Society. He worked for many years at the Sante Fe Institute and The RAND Corporation, as well as serving on the faculties of Princeton, the University of Arizona, and New York University. A former editor of the journal Complexity, Casti has published nearly 20 volumes of academic and popular science and received his Ph.D. in mathematics from the University of Southern California. He lives in Vienna, Austria.
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Hi BHD,

No I did not read the info about Casti, but I will lateron the day.

I did not intended to be harsh on PPPI personally
but reacted indeed sec to the lines quoted.

I will see if I am gonna change my opinion...



Happy Valentine's Day to all!!!!!
:love:


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But beware, ~ before we get too complacent and,
referring to
John Casti's "X Events" (an ex member of the Rand Corporation):



“We are living in the most technologically advanced society ever known to humankind,” he writes in the concluding chapter,

“yet we continue to sow the seeds of our own destruction, seeds that… are able to develop into the destruction of our entire species.”


You Have Been Warned ~ That Is All.
 Quoting: INTEGRATOR 33673447


Bull fart smell !!!
That is pure fear-mongering !!

Technologically advanced yes, but that is not all to our individual spiritual and holistic advancement ... Many tech is to diffuse and distord.

EVERY SEED is a potential ... destruction is lack of consciousness and lack of faith ...

Utter BS that our species could be entirely destructed !!
We are the result of fractal manifestation !!!
WE are PART of the WHOLE, with destruction of 1 of the species that are part of the WHOLE, the whole structure would change.
Besides, we are not only 3D material manifestations, we are also fractal, quantum, multi dimensional entities in a vessel ...
The VESSEL at its own is not the reflection of an entire race or species ... a species is the combination of flavors and colors and experiences.

We are CO-MPLEX, we are not just a vessel.

WE [our species of vessels and entities] are not limmited to Earth, we are at more dimensions and celestial bodies !
We are fractal and quantum and multi dimensional.

To think we are the only Human species is comparable with thinking that Earth is the only inhabited planet around a sun .... lol ...


XXXK

(my account is back from banc a tion ... yippiehhhhh !!)
 Quoting: Krispy71


I think you might be a little harsh on Preper regards John Casti's work Krispness.

I've wondered if he is one of the RRRs, after reading the synopsis of the book mentioned.

It depends what frame of mind you read that statement above in. John Casti basically says our destiny is in our own hands, good or bad - its ours to make.

His forte is showing the tangled web we call society, and what happens if you pull on one thread, or worse, break a thread.

The results he speculates on are not what you would expect!

[link to www.viennareview.net]

Have a read, and see if you still feel the same way.

I would consider Casti a bezerker!!

If he was an RRR, then he would have been one of the guys who went against the concensus that the organism is bad, methinks.....


Bio - One of the pioneers of complexity science and systems theory, John L. Casti, Ph.D., is Senior Research Scholar at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis, where he heads an initiative on Extreme Events in Human Society. He worked for many years at the Sante Fe Institute and The RAND Corporation, as well as serving on the faculties of Princeton, the University of Arizona, and New York University. A former editor of the journal Complexity, Casti has published nearly 20 volumes of academic and popular science and received his Ph.D. in mathematics from the University of Southern California. He lives in Vienna, Austria.
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[link to explosivereports.com]
Captain Kirk’s Predecessor: Star Trek Was RAND Corporation Predictive Programming

I posted that on my site a week back and wrote an article about predictive programming, scripting and priming to accompany it.

A brief look at who created and funded these Corporations is interesting. Those who Donated large amounts of money got to put their people in Key positions. They were then able to control the whole thing from the Top down. End of Story.

RAND Corp is a tool of the international Corporations, it does what they want, it doesn't work exclusively for the US government [another registered Corporation] though many are deceived into thinking so.

A look at noted RAND corp members, former members and Board members hows you exactly how the Corporations plug into Governments to control the key areas they do. A whisper in the ear from Raytheon and Rand to the administration yields a result every time.

I will put it simply, RAND corp is more powerful than most current governments on the planet. They are one of the biggest player in manufacturing the future by use of Media and popularism. By projecting the image of the future they increase the chances of that outcome considerably.

We don't know what is going to happen in the future. When we encounter something we have not before the brain looks for anything similar to draw from and pops that up as a first suggestion in the pursuit of answers.

When we think of the future the mind latches onto all the things you might know about the future, these are our Popular Science fiction TV shows movies and Novels, we have nothing else to draw upon.

I hope people see how powerful a tool this is for directing people on Mass to a future you have planned for them. The average person never realizes how slickly they are manipulated.

RAND corp is not going to tell people the truth, they are going to tell them the truth they want to project to help enable it to happen as they want.[it shows they need our support to make it happen]
Rand Corp is a tool of the Massive Corporational cartel that tries to control the planet and it's resources. It works for them not the average person or for the good of the average person.
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Hiya Cap'n. Whilst I agree whole heartedly on the rand stand, this fella, has a different ring about him.

Maybe that's why he left?

Even aco's account mentions deep divisions amongst players on this particular subject. Not saying this bloke has anything to do with this project, just saying his expertise could be utilised, for sure.
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
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Hiya Cap'n. Whilst I agree whole heartedly on the rand stand, this fella, has a different ring about him.

Maybe that's why he left?

Even aco's account mentions deep divisions amongst players on this particular subject. Not saying this bloke has anything to do with this project, just saying his expertise could be utilised, for sure.
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Hi BHDish ..lol..

Just to come back to Casti.
Yes he has a different ring about him, but [sorry] I dont buy him. He is a trained employee that smells different but with the same indoctrinative twist like the rest.


Still, approaching this topic with novelty isn’t easy; bookstore shelves are lined with doomsday theories. Casti attempts to set X-events apart by defining them as a particular strain of life-altering occurrences, as those that are exclusively man-made, thus leaving giant tsunami, catastrophic earthquakes and the like to others.

Perhaps a more defining feature of this book is his sense of optimism, inherent in the man-made underpinnings of the book’s premise: What we can cause, we can surely prevent.

But when does a man-made debacle become more than just another disaster? Casti’s definition of an X-Event is shrouded in hazy gray. The difference, he writes, lies in their rarity, with an emphasis on surprise, rather than mere frequency, and impact, be they immediate or lasting.

More interesting from a theoretical perspective is his explanation of when and why an X-event takes place. His theory is that, of all factors contributing to the occurrence of an X-event, the law of requisite variety – essentially gaps in degrees of complexity between two or more interacting systems – will result in a monumental and often devastating event bringing systems back into balance. To illustrate this, Casti uses a timely example from the Arab Spring, where Egyptian society (one system) becomes vastly more complex with modern information technology – think Facebook – than the rigid and static dictatorial regime of Hosni Mubarak (the competing system). Which brings with it the problem of events being defined by their rarity: There are no past occurrences on which to calculate probability and no known data from which to assess potential impact.
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- They want to make it seem as if this man is approaching things with novelty ...
>>> which is not true.

- X-events are man-made ..
>>> true [imo]
leaving giant tsunami, catastrophic earthquakes and the like to others ..
>>> false !!! The Japan and Thahiti tsunami were also MAN-MADE,
as were the Japan, Chile and [forgot name] EQ's that changed the axis of the Earth !!!! and all 3 changed the duration of the day by miniseconds or so!

- >>> Yes he has "a sense of optimism" that can mesmerize the reader in believing illusions and half truths and disguised goals/agenda's ...

- "Casti’s definition of an X-Event is shrouded in hazy gray. The difference, he writes, lies in their rarity, with an emphasis on surprise, rather than mere frequency, and impact, be they immediate or lasting."
>>> Man-made X-events are not rare in the past 5000 years of history !!! But yes they have been brought to the public as if they were surprises, first becoz in ancient times people had no Media and MSN ... and nowadays they have institutions like rand that invent and investigate ways to lure and decept the public. Think-tanks think for us and mold and create the mental food most of the populous digest ... The big bad man-made wolf has been disguised beyond average recognition and turns into a surprise at any wanted or desired time.

- "the occurrence of an X-event, the law of requisite variety – essentially gaps in degrees of complexity between two or more interacting systems – will result in a monumental and often devastating event bringing systems back into balance."
>>> !!!!!
Man-made events that bring systems back into balance !!!!
They are creating laws themselves to explain their actions hahahaha!
It is true that NATURE and Universal laws tend to equalize gaps and differences in systems and bring them into a working balance [zero + zero = zero, but zero + minus = action], but these balancing-out-events most of the time are not "devastating" in Nature, coz Nature is a positive feed-back-system ... Nature is based on fractal SUPPORT-systems !
Human and man-made actions are based on ignorance, greed [agenda's] and lack in understanding the complexity of Universal Laws ... "Devastation" is a Human expression called into life and Grammar to trigger frequencies and vibrations of negativity and victimization to serve TPTB and all rand related organizations interlinked with each other.
The Egyptian example Casti made in his quote is BS, it is a clearly well-thought tactic to deliberately oppose party's and people to invoke stress and disharmony at a later point in time. The only BALANCE these "man-made X-event actions" bring is money in the pockets of politicians and warlords and war-industries ...

- quote: "There are no past occurrences on which to calculate probability and no known data from which to assess potential impact."
>>> This is pure bs, imo !
Rand and all its partner-corps and thinky-tanky's are JUST FOR THAT , to calculate potential impact in potential events and gather data to calculate reactions and what plans have to be put in preparation !

- quote: "The end of oil, food shortages and a severe scarcity of clean water could bring life as we know it to a screeching halt."
>>> We all know that there will be no END of OIL ...lol... Food-shortages are not necessary and can be solved easily, and clean water is in the hands of TPTB and water can be cleaned with vibrational frequencies very easy ...
SO : there does not have to be a DOOMSDAY-tendency or scenario !
Like I said, FEAR-MONGERING all along, indoctrination with a different twist and ring to it.



Sorry BHD and PPPI
I read the link given and did not come back on my earlier impression. I still stand by the words I said before and say above.
I respect that you both have a different perspective and impression ;)


hf xxxMzK
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Clearly, MzK is mostly correct in one respect according to her viewpoint, because she perceives things here and into the future through her vision as a Sixth Density Being and hence, through her Infinite Gateway Portal as defined by The Law of One (see previous quote).

In fact her "sixth sense" view can be proved through the maths of The Quantum World, for those prepared to study this experience.

Since she is wary of the deliberate distortions of the relentless propaganda of the likes of the Rand Corporation and remains sceptical of their outpourings ~ in all probability she is dead right, ~ is this not the deliberate creation of Problems, to provide (man made) Solutions ~ in order to create Fear, General Unrest and Uncertainty?

If so, WHY?

Meanwhile, should we not address the root causes of this, and positively attempt to divert or cure them for the future?

Ask yourself: Why is this happening?

Furthermore, Is there really Anyone out there who is in command or overall control of the entire situation?

Can anyone on this Planet, really grasp The total Reality?

Meantime, here is a snip from The Delta Spectrum Research which is perhaps an encouraging icon:

"Science and religion are ONE when their purposes are one." Cayce (5023- 2)

The New Science based on Sympathetic Vibration uplifts all in hope. This new paradigm does not depreciate or prey upon nature or people. Nor does it reserve itself to the rich or elite. This New Knowledge and Awareness shares Love into ALL aspects of our lives. After all, how can we love ourselves and neighbors one instant then pollute the air, water and food the next? Or how does one love some but hate or fear others? Our mission (should we choose to accept it) is loving those people, things and situations we fear or which appear to us as unlovable. Transmuting the lead of fear or illusion into the gold of love or truth leads us into higher levels of love.

Giving Unconditional Love implies an all encompassing giving and receiving, all of the time and in all ways without demand, condition or reservation.

Unconditional Love flows mightily from the here and now.

Celebrate in your choice!

ALL
~ hf
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
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You must have read what I wrote and then decided not to post earlier today using some sort of Psychic reading of the threads of reality.

It goes a bit with canisters, created tsunami's fraction and he weakening of specific seams of rock such as in the Christchurch quake.

The Christchurch quakes are on going and will be for a decade we have been told. It is because of a certain seam of rock that is old and rotting in rock terms and it is collapsing and will take a decade to Finish settling. I will remind people that Christchurch had never had Earthquakes before the First one it was a quake free area in NZ and many of the older building had never been built to handle any kind of Earthquake. No Quakes and now a decades worth. At the time of the quake two US survey vessels were noted to be almost directly above the area where the epicenter of the first quake was.

Go around fracking up the right places before hand and you can cause whole seams in key place to detach from the seam above and below them.
Sonic booms that are heard. many of these are around known fault lines, some Tesla sonic rupturing perhaps of specific seams of rock perhaps? These are super low frequency and take very substantial amounts of energy to generate.

If you want to play the part of a magician all you need to do it keep the audience looking at the right hand while the left does the trick unnoticed. This where I think the scripts come into play, if people expect something and you show them something close most will never think twice it might not have been as they thought. Created events portrayed as the result of Natural events.

Perhaps strange canisters that wash up are seabed resonators that have come loose from their positions near or in underwater fault lines or weak spots.


After Kobe [96] we were all talking about manufactured Earthquakes as a weapon in the CT nut-house, why have some of those voices gone silent now?

Maybe someone wants the USA to match the cayce version of North America.

As you know I have five theories for absolutely everything, this is all about Globalizing the planet under a single system, it always has been. That means one Law for all World wide, some people are not going to like that at all, they have religious investments in their Laws, they[as peoples and nations] can't be globalized......yet.

World wide disaster as a Globalization effort has been touted before as well as Faked up Alien invasion. Global warming, international sports, the Olympics, world pollution all Global initiatives designed to Globalize the World.

You couldn't Join the Federation in star trek until you had a One World Government, it was one of the requirements.

A New Pearl Harbour. A Global Pearl Harbour, or what ever it takes to make a One World Government under the ruler-ship of the Corporations. A meritocracy on the surface but Rampant Nepotism underneath.

That is "The Plan" how it is achieved puts those who achieve it at the Top of the Pyramid, that is all your in house faction wars summed up simply. Greedy kids playing games with the lives of everybody out of Pure Ego and Naked Greed.

There are many very applicable ways to achieve a One World order, eliminating those who disagree is a good start. In the Army you break the man and remake him in the image you want him. The same process can be applied to the world in general either by financially breaking the World or Physically breaking the world in many places and allowing massive Global pollution and Radiation on such a scale it cause humanity [the survivors] to band together to survive under a single unit. Just pop all the Oil wells and strike all the Nuke reactors in the world and it is good to go to hell and back.

Or the softly softly gradualism approach could just be continued until it reaches it's conclusion.

If you were raised by Head hunters you would think that is normal. If you were raised by racists you would think that is normal. We all think the world we have been raised in is normal, few see it is a wholly manufactured arrangement.
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
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It is possible fracking is being used to stabilize the ground by bleeding off gas deposits. rock is fracked, then a layer of water is used to hold the gas down. This is why so much water worldwide is "gone"

the water layer allows the gas to migrate long distances, as you simply apply a pressure push to herd the gas for collection.

with the arctic hydrate meltoff, I think capturing, and holding out of atmospheric suspention the methane is very important.

IMHO, excessive amounts of methane in the air, in the northern and southern extremes could lead to a methane cycle (similar to the water cycle)

this would supercool the north and south, freezing water into ice cap/glaciers

any methane trapped under the ground water, or tied up in hydrates will not enter the atmosphere
I wonder if that was the real purpose of the DWH. change gasious methane into crystals sequestered on the floor of the gulf, instead of the buildup in the air

[link to www.eia.gov]

In some areas, most notably the Midwestern United States, natural aquifers have been converted to gas storage reservoirs. An aquifer is suitable for gas storage if the water bearing sedimentary rock formation is overlaid with an impermeable cap rock. While the geology of aquifers is similar to depleted production fields, their use in gas storage usually requires more base (cushion) gas and greater monitoring of withdrawal and injection performance. Deliverability rates may be enhanced by the presence of an active water drive

[link to www.astrobio.net]

this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room no one wants to address

dr
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Thanks for that RoXY!
Just found your UFO thread too!
Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos

Those Alien Races vids on page 18 are Most Excellent! Wow!
hf
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Thanx, that's always nice to read!

I've put a lot of time in that thread and it certainly paid out 'cos it became a proper library of worthwhile-to-watch-&-read UFO videos, articles and links.

(btw, one of the coolest gadgets for GLP 'gold star members' is the 'remove post' button, which gives you the possibility to moderate your own thread and delete troll & shill posts. Keeps the thread tidy!)
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Nice reply ac nz!
I can only agree with all your words and views.


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To supercool the glacier north and south by methane cycles is an interesting theory, and would fit in tptb agenda's to keep the illusion that the poles haven't switched... And to keep ancient things they dont want to become public by melt, hidden....


Tnx dr


XxxMzK


Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
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It is possible fracking is being used to stabilize the ground by bleeding off gas deposits. rock is fracked, then a layer of water is used to hold the gas down. This is why so much water worldwide is "gone"

the water layer allows the gas to migrate long distances, as you simply apply a pressure push to herd the gas for collection.

with the arctic hydrate meltoff, I think capturing, and holding out of atmospheric suspention the methane is very important.

IMHO, excessive amounts of methane in the air, in the northern and southern extremes could lead to a methane cycle (similar to the water cycle)

this would supercool the north and south, freezing water into ice cap/glaciers

any methane trapped under the ground water, or tied up in hydrates will not enter the atmosphere
I wonder if that was the real purpose of the DWH. change gasious methane into crystals sequestered on the floor of the gulf, instead of the buildup in the air

[link to www.eia.gov]

In some areas, most notably the Midwestern United States, natural aquifers have been converted to gas storage reservoirs. An aquifer is suitable for gas storage if the water bearing sedimentary rock formation is overlaid with an impermeable cap rock. While the geology of aquifers is similar to depleted production fields, their use in gas storage usually requires more base (cushion) gas and greater monitoring of withdrawal and injection performance. Deliverability rates may be enhanced by the presence of an active water drive

[link to www.astrobio.net]

this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room no one wants to address

dr
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


It is possible fracking is being used to stabilize the ground by bleeding off gas deposits. rock is fracked, then a layer of water is used to hold the gas down. This is why so much water worldwide is "gone"

the water layer allows the gas to migrate long distances, as you simply apply a pressure push to herd the gas for collection.

with the arctic hydrate meltoff, I think capturing, and holding out of atmospheric suspention the methane is very important.

IMHO, excessive amounts of methane in the air, in the northern and southern extremes could lead to a methane cycle (similar to the water cycle)

this would supercool the north and south, freezing water into ice cap/glaciers

any methane trapped under the ground water, or tied up in hydrates will not enter the atmosphere
I wonder if that was the real purpose of the DWH. change gasious methane into crystals sequestered on the floor of the gulf, instead of the buildup in the air

[link to www.eia.gov]

In some areas, most notably the Midwestern United States, natural aquifers have been converted to gas storage reservoirs. An aquifer is suitable for gas storage if the water bearing sedimentary rock formation is overlaid with an impermeable cap rock. While the geology of aquifers is similar to depleted production fields, their use in gas storage usually requires more base (cushion) gas and greater monitoring of withdrawal and injection performance. Deliverability rates may be enhanced by the presence of an active water drive

[link to www.astrobio.net]

this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room no one wants to address

dr
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That's truly excellent thinking dr. Percieved negatives, that are actually attempts at a positive outcome, but in reality are still negatives as the perportraitors have always had a negative, control agenda.

The issue of reserves certainly is an issue for the US, given all the recent geo instability.

But, as Cap'n said, is that geo instability man made or natural? - or a man made attempt to control a natural event?

This is where I'm trying to keep my mind focussed regarding the original storyline and events mentioned in this thread.

We know that the start of the thread wasnt the start of the story. Working out what started this cascade series of events will eventually flush out whether its contrived spin, or one part of an even bigger play.

Thanks for taking the time to respond dr.
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


You must have read what I wrote and then decided not to post earlier today using some sort of Psychic reading of the threads of reality.

It goes a bit with canisters, created tsunami's fraction and he weakening of specific seams of rock such as in the Christchurch quake.

The Christchurch quakes are on going and will be for a decade we have been told. It is because of a certain seam of rock that is old and rotting in rock terms and it is collapsing and will take a decade to Finish settling. I will remind people that Christchurch had never had Earthquakes before the First one it was a quake free area in NZ and many of the older building had never been built to handle any kind of Earthquake. No Quakes and now a decades worth. At the time of the quake two US survey vessels were noted to be almost directly above the area where the epicenter of the first quake was.

Go around fracking up the right places before hand and you can cause whole seams in key place to detach from the seam above and below them.
Sonic booms that are heard. many of these are around known fault lines, some Tesla sonic rupturing perhaps of specific seams of rock perhaps? These are super low frequency and take very substantial amounts of energy to generate.

If you want to play the part of a magician all you need to do it keep the audience looking at the right hand while the left does the trick unnoticed. This where I think the scripts come into play, if people expect something and you show them something close most will never think twice it might not have been as they thought. Created events portrayed as the result of Natural events.

Perhaps strange canisters that wash up are seabed resonators that have come loose from their positions near or in underwater fault lines or weak spots.


After Kobe [96] we were all talking about manufactured Earthquakes as a weapon in the CT nut-house, why have some of those voices gone silent now?

Maybe someone wants the USA to match the cayce version of North America.

As you know I have five theories for absolutely everything, this is all about Globalizing the planet under a single system, it always has been. That means one Law for all World wide, some people are not going to like that at all, they have religious investments in their Laws, they[as peoples and nations] can't be globalized......yet.

World wide disaster as a Globalization effort has been touted before as well as Faked up Alien invasion. Global warming, international sports, the Olympics, world pollution all Global initiatives designed to Globalize the World.

You couldn't Join the Federation in star trek until you had a One World Government, it was one of the requirements.

A New Pearl Harbour. A Global Pearl Harbour, or what ever it takes to make a One World Government under the ruler-ship of the Corporations. A meritocracy on the surface but Rampant Nepotism underneath.

That is "The Plan" how it is achieved puts those who achieve it at the Top of the Pyramid, that is all your in house faction wars summed up simply. Greedy kids playing games with the lives of everybody out of Pure Ego and Naked Greed.

There are many very applicable ways to achieve a One World order, eliminating those who disagree is a good start. In the Army you break the man and remake him in the image you want him. The same process can be applied to the world in general either by financially breaking the World or Physically breaking the world in many places and allowing massive Global pollution and Radiation on such a scale it cause humanity [the survivors] to band together to survive under a single unit. Just pop all the Oil wells and strike all the Nuke reactors in the world and it is good to go to hell and back.

Or the softly softly gradualism approach could just be continued until it reaches it's conclusion.

If you were raised by Head hunters you would think that is normal. If you were raised by racists you would think that is normal. We all think the world we have been raised in is normal, few see it is a wholly manufactured arrangement.
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I never knew that about CC, Cap'n. And, no, I hadnt read your article yet! Must be turned in to the same station! LOL
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


You must have read what I wrote and then decided not to post earlier today using some sort of Psychic reading of the threads of reality.

It goes a bit with canisters, created tsunami's fraction and he weakening of specific seams of rock such as in the Christchurch quake.

The Christchurch quakes are on going and will be for a decade we have been told. It is because of a certain seam of rock that is old and rotting in rock terms and it is collapsing and will take a decade to Finish settling. I will remind people that Christchurch had never had Earthquakes before the First one it was a quake free area in NZ and many of the older building had never been built to handle any kind of Earthquake. No Quakes and now a decades worth. At the time of the quake two US survey vessels were noted to be almost directly above the area where the epicenter of the first quake was.

Go around fracking up the right places before hand and you can cause whole seams in key place to detach from the seam above and below them.
Sonic booms that are heard. many of these are around known fault lines, some Tesla sonic rupturing perhaps of specific seams of rock perhaps? These are super low frequency and take very substantial amounts of energy to generate.

If you want to play the part of a magician all you need to do it keep the audience looking at the right hand while the left does the trick unnoticed. This where I think the scripts come into play, if people expect something and you show them something close most will never think twice it might not have been as they thought. Created events portrayed as the result of Natural events.

Perhaps strange canisters that wash up are seabed resonators that have come loose from their positions near or in underwater fault lines or weak spots.


After Kobe [96] we were all talking about manufactured Earthquakes as a weapon in the CT nut-house, why have some of those voices gone silent now?

Maybe someone wants the USA to match the cayce version of North America.

As you know I have five theories for absolutely everything, this is all about Globalizing the planet under a single system, it always has been. That means one Law for all World wide, some people are not going to like that at all, they have religious investments in their Laws, they[as peoples and nations] can't be globalized......yet.

World wide disaster as a Globalization effort has been touted before as well as Faked up Alien invasion. Global warming, international sports, the Olympics, world pollution all Global initiatives designed to Globalize the World.

You couldn't Join the Federation in star trek until you had a One World Government, it was one of the requirements.

A New Pearl Harbour. A Global Pearl Harbour, or what ever it takes to make a One World Government under the ruler-ship of the Corporations. A meritocracy on the surface but Rampant Nepotism underneath.

That is "The Plan" how it is achieved puts those who achieve it at the Top of the Pyramid, that is all your in house faction wars summed up simply. Greedy kids playing games with the lives of everybody out of Pure Ego and Naked Greed.

There are many very applicable ways to achieve a One World order, eliminating those who disagree is a good start. In the Army you break the man and remake him in the image you want him. The same process can be applied to the world in general either by financially breaking the World or Physically breaking the world in many places and allowing massive Global pollution and Radiation on such a scale it cause humanity [the survivors] to band together to survive under a single unit. Just pop all the Oil wells and strike all the Nuke reactors in the world and it is good to go to hell and back.

Or the softly softly gradualism approach could just be continued until it reaches it's conclusion.

If you were raised by Head hunters you would think that is normal. If you were raised by racists you would think that is normal. We all think the world we have been raised in is normal, few see it is a wholly manufactured arrangement.
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I never knew that about CC, Cap'n. And, no, I hadnt read your article yet! Must be turned in to the same station! LOL
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The first CHCH earthquake had one of the biggest g-forces ever recorded in an Earthquake, almost all sideways, so it was not a big quake by big force and movement. I have experienced 7.1 where I live and 6.7's both stronger than the Christchurch quakes, the fault line where those EQ's occurred in less than a kilometer from where I live now, the house I live in survived with no structural damage. The NZ building code is to thank for that.

No other Earthquake anywhere ever had produced as many chains of Earthquakes after an event like the CHCH one, just a day ago they had a 3.7. They have been told to expect a decade of this. I don't buy the rotten rock seam theory, one of my school teachers was Top geologist who did work in Antarctica he told us where the oldest rock seams in the country were [near where I live] so I am thinking some process to fracture the rock seam in many places and then something to drive the water into the seam and high speed from the sea where the Quake was centered.

My oldest Daughter lives in CHCH so I get what is happening over there. I would suggest more than a few international trauma psychologists have been studying people there. I knew some who went to Hati after the quake there and Bali after the Tsunami on boxing day. What they do is very Travis stocktake studying people who have been through trauma and observing their breaking points and how their behavior changed as they approached the breaking point.

CHCH is a mess not because of broken infrastructure [most of that is sorted] it is the lack of housing, as so many houses were written off people still needed places to live and new houses are yet to be completed and some areas are too unstable for building while other parts are unaffected.
Some people have chosen to live in a condemned house and use gas to cook heat water. Some people are living in cars, not thousands just hundreds but it makes things hard to do when there is no accommodation.

The most stable and qauke free area in the country, now ten years worth of quakes to come.
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


It is possible fracking is being used to stabilize the ground by bleeding off gas deposits. rock is fracked, then a layer of water is used to hold the gas down. This is why so much water worldwide is "gone"

the water layer allows the gas to migrate long distances, as you simply apply a pressure push to herd the gas for collection.

with the arctic hydrate meltoff, I think capturing, and holding out of atmospheric suspention the methane is very important.

IMHO, excessive amounts of methane in the air, in the northern and southern extremes could lead to a methane cycle (similar to the water cycle)

this would supercool the north and south, freezing water into ice cap/glaciers

any methane trapped under the ground water, or tied up in hydrates will not enter the atmosphere
I wonder if that was the real purpose of the DWH. change gasious methane into crystals sequestered on the floor of the gulf, instead of the buildup in the air

[link to www.eia.gov]

In some areas, most notably the Midwestern United States, natural aquifers have been converted to gas storage reservoirs. An aquifer is suitable for gas storage if the water bearing sedimentary rock formation is overlaid with an impermeable cap rock. While the geology of aquifers is similar to depleted production fields, their use in gas storage usually requires more base (cushion) gas and greater monitoring of withdrawal and injection performance. Deliverability rates may be enhanced by the presence of an active water drive

[link to www.astrobio.net]

this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room no one wants to address

dr
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Nice post doc,good to see you back ;0)
btw speaking of elephants in the room, what dja make of this latest
dog and pony from your old nemesis pre/per/ the creeper?
imo beautifully subtle riposte from mz K, yes??
Dived and Rule???
Its what's for dinner :(
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Sorry to jump off that topic, but I needs some help.

Interested in any alternate ideas on what 'fracking' could be a cover for. Any ideas, crazy or otherwise.

The craziest one being it is to mine/harvest gas.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


It is possible fracking is being used to stabilize the ground by bleeding off gas deposits. rock is fracked, then a layer of water is used to hold the gas down. This is why so much water worldwide is "gone"

the water layer allows the gas to migrate long distances, as you simply apply a pressure push to herd the gas for collection.

with the arctic hydrate meltoff, I think capturing, and holding out of atmospheric suspention the methane is very important.

IMHO, excessive amounts of methane in the air, in the northern and southern extremes could lead to a methane cycle (similar to the water cycle)

this would supercool the north and south, freezing water into ice cap/glaciers

any methane trapped under the ground water, or tied up in hydrates will not enter the atmosphere
I wonder if that was the real purpose of the DWH. change gasious methane into crystals sequestered on the floor of the gulf, instead of the buildup in the air

[link to www.eia.gov]

In some areas, most notably the Midwestern United States, natural aquifers have been converted to gas storage reservoirs. An aquifer is suitable for gas storage if the water bearing sedimentary rock formation is overlaid with an impermeable cap rock. While the geology of aquifers is similar to depleted production fields, their use in gas storage usually requires more base (cushion) gas and greater monitoring of withdrawal and injection performance. Deliverability rates may be enhanced by the presence of an active water drive

[link to www.astrobio.net]

this is the 10,000 pound elephant in the room no one wants to address

dr
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Nice post doc,good to see you back ;0)
btw speaking of elephants in the room, what dja make of this latest
dog and pony from your old nemesis pre/per/ the creeper?
imo beautifully subtle riposte from mz K, yes??
Dived and Rule???
Its what's for dinner :(
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When I first started to investigate forums two years ago I learned when you want to know something and you don't really know but you have seen enough glimpses to guess, all you do is push peoples buttons until they react and make a mistake over react and confirm your suspicions.
I didn't do it alone and made sure I had witnesses to what I was doing.

What I have learned is how people are professionally manipulated. The rees method is pretty useful on the right thread or environment, some people play upon your humanity by playing the victim to garner your support. The best manipulators pretend to be your friend, they will grease your ass so you open up and let down your guard. If you want to find out more you have to let them play you and not let on to see where they try and lead you.

What I have learned is many of my first assumptions were incorrect, some way off. Better to reserve judgment and wait and see.

I don't know K or Integrator personally. If I form a firm opinion that will define my mental viewpoint and might lead me into an incorrect assumption or the over looking of information.

I try and use the two polar opposites of mental inquiry, the believing mind and the doubting mind. You have to invest a little belief in things to truly see if they are real. I learned to make mental spaces to see if the idea flies.
This all comes from being taught philosophy many years ago. Philosophy is all about attacking reality with mental arguments and differing perspectives to see if you can define more of it. If the bird still flies afterwards [after trying with a group of people to shoot it down] it doesn't mean it is true, just a possibility to be taken seriously until disproved.

What we choose to believe in defines and confines us, so I try and take the Third Path.

We all live in different user defined realities, what we believe becomes true for us. This is why the media is hell bent on making sure you heard it from them first, that way they create your reality.

I have learned in the last year not to react blindly or take sides.
We produce our emotions no-one else does. So someone can't make me angry it is me that makes me angry not them, we can choose to react or not, it is up to us.
When people are emotional Logic and Reason takes a back seat to naked personal expediency and selfishness.

Play it calm, be authentic to yourself, don't react when provoked, that is the game. After a time it stops being a front and becomes your strength as you gain genuine control over yourself and you finally get to be you with none of the Bullshit. You have to nail your Ego, that is how most people are controlled.

If you want to manipulate someone you just appeal to their Ego. 95% of people are run by their Ego, it makes them happy and satisfied, but it is also behind the pain and unhappiness [most people never realize this] it is your personal ruler until you hold that sucker down and choke it to death.

I'm not here to play games on this thread, I'm just sharing a little of what I think I know and I fully admit I could be wrong on everything. There are some interesting ideas here and some good solid thinkers and theory builders.

When you go hunting it is the Stalk that is all the fun, once the trigger is pulled all the fun is over. The search for knowledge and answers can be similar.

Funny we were discussing Globalizing Ideas and strategies earlier on the thread and now we have some Meteors in Russia [or so it seems]. What did Von Bruan say, Cold war then terrorists, after that threats from space and Alien Threats if required.
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@ Cap'n Kee-way
Thanks for the response and just to say not angry just an old habit of meeting arrogance and pomposity with ridicule (me bad,bit of a shit stirrer ;o))
and of-course what goes around etc

You proly know this but just in case and in light of your recent post, in the mid
seventy's Gene Roddenberry became part of Andrija Puharich's Lab Nine
which may have informed some of the later plot lines of "Star Trek next gen/
Deep Space 9" also a close collaborator, James Hurtak's "the keys of Enoch"
all channeled stuff eagerly embraced by SRI, no-doubt Rand, the alphabet agencies, Hollywood etc and put to good deception winning hearts and minds toward immanent return of the gods!!!
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@ AC NZ 21858603

Great respect for your words and opinion.
I really like the info you bring on in this thread and the energy that accompanies it.



@ AC France

Yes you seem to be a stirrer :)
PPPI (Integrator) knows that I respect him for his knowledge on many fronts. He and I are just different goose in the same flock called bezerk.
There are no hard feelings, to none on the thread ...
(there are only a few who show up once-in-a-while that make my guard on extra guard. Dont trust them for a nikkel ...lol.. but hard feelings, not really, just like AC NZ said you know the game they play.)




BTW, is ISIS okay ???
Havent seen from her a while
scratching



xxxMzK
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@ AC NZ 21858603

Great respect for your words and opinion.
I really like the info you bring on in this thread and the energy that accompanies it.



@ AC France

Yes you seem to be a stirrer :)
PPPI (Integrator) knows that I respect him for his knowledge on many fronts. He and I are just different goose in the same flock called bezerk.
There are no hard feelings, to none on the thread ...
(there are only a few who show up once-in-a-while that make my guard on extra guard. Dont trust them for a nikkel ...lol.. but hard feelings, not really, just like AC NZ said you know the game they play.)




BTW, is ISIS okay ???
Havent seen from her a while
scratching



xxxMzK
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Hiya MzK,

Thanks for asking, I've just had lots to deal with lately.

So much happening on so many fronts (and occulted events too). Everyone's discussions and personal opinions on things are much appreciated.

smile_hear
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Yes, as was Bush, Clinton, the Pope, etc.

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