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Reply inserted in last post BHD in bold blue ;) Haha!! rambling (welcome to my head) I nearly forgot!!
Getting stuff up in to the atmosphere.
Just as they've blanketed the oil with corexit(s) and created methanic/methylhydrate blankets, and further controlled 'layers' by creating elecromagnetic frequencies that attract and repulse certain elements, (calibrators on subs and deep platforms/spas)) including what we call AUgie, the same can be said for the atmosphere.
Its really just an extension of the ocean. In fact everything is just layers and densities... HAARP could be the atmospheric equivalent of a sub based calibrator, creating zoned off layers.
If our atmosphere is also layered, then it stands to reason that you could pump something up there to contain or blanket an area or the Earth from ... something.. (lol)
Chem trails?
Natural potential differences exist, and that's why we get lightening.
If you're a Gaia type, like me, and accept the chem trail phenominon as real, then an increase in volcanic erruptions, and hurricanes etc. might be an offensive against this action, just as the deep drilling and spill, might be countered by AUgie as a reaction.
So a few scenarios come to mind.
We dont know what we're doing, and the planet is cleaning it up....
We know what we're doing, and we know the planet will TRY to clean it up, and for what ever reason, we want to get something from this process...
(Nexed's option) All of the above.
We're doing it to illicite a response that we think will have a certain outcome, which will benefit a particular type of person, or being, yet to arrive here.
We DID look at the atmospheric connection. I think we need to see both atmospheric, land and ocean events concurrently, and see the reactions as concurrent too.
I dont think we're thinking big enough peeps.
Remove the HUmanity from the equation, as the folks perpetrating this I dont think give a poop about the average Joe, and then start applying scenarios.
Split the planet in half? Send the continental USA in to space? Land the moon on earth, - gently... Silly, but I think maybe that kind of scale.
Quoting: BadHairDay Yeah the AIR-LAYERS are logic !!! Good to bring it up into consciousness :D there's one thing that kept on blinking like a bulp in my head : How about AIR-QUAKES ????... Ruptures and mega disturbances in the layers of air ... Like flying in 1 layer and suddenly encountering a different layer could be like flying into a wall !! Different make-up in chemistry and thus different in electro-magnetic reading ... just like when ships & subs loose buoyancy over a methane-field or in distorted EM-vortexes .... The birds in the air would instantly be chocked and/or brainfried [their internal magnetic compass-organ] by these EM-fields, the same goes for fish in the water ... Indeed HAARP and the sub-callibrators could cauze air- & water-quakes ... Remember that GOLD is needed in an atmosphere to keep it healthy and alive ! Volcano's spew it out into the atmosphere ... Keep on coming BHD  XXX MzK Air quakes, what a cool idea K. On another thread, there were all these folks attacking a fella about sound in space. I cant remember the thread name. But it came down to "you cant hear any sound in space, because sound needs air to be heard! Dummy"K: What a DUMMY was the one making that remark !!! Sound IS in Space ! There is NOTHING in the Universe that does not make a sound !! All is vibration, and made out of vibrating elements and matter ! Even an ATOM is making sound !
The only thing is you need the RIGHT SPECTRUM and technology to be able to translate it into our SPECTRUM of known sounds. Compare it with Ultra Violet Light : we cant SEE it but it is there and can be made visible with the right tools! lol !!!!
So it is NOT that SOUND needs AIR !!! But sounds needs the RIGHT SPECTRUM to be heard [for the macro and micro world].
If there was NO SOUND in Space [becoz many believe it is a vacuum and there is no air in free Space], how could it be that the SOUNDS of PLANETS were recorded ???? And of the Sun ???Well that is the case for us Humans, as it's how we've developed physically. I pointed out that sound waves can travel through space fine, and do get heard when they hit our atmosphere, in which case, they then take on meaning as "sound" that we can hear. They get TRANSLATED in to sound at that point. K: Yeah thats correct. When Space-waves hit our solar-systems heliosphere [outer layer & bubble] it is "heard" by every planet and heavenly body that is a part of our system.
When that same Space-wave travels on in our solar-system and reaches the atmosphere of a planet, it will be felt [vibration] by every living organism on this planet, but the translation and how it affects you/it reaches you is dependant on the spectrum you use to see and hear !
The outer shell of the Heliosphere and out atmosphere act like A DRUMHEAD [the sensitive skin layer that transports the vibrations of the hit to the shell, and according to size and material a sound will be heard, just also like the eardrum, or tympanic membrane]
It could be possible that some animals or lifeforms not only can HEAR space-waves or Air-quakes but even are able to SEE them, The eye and the ear are very narrowly linked is is proven with the study on birds and how they see/feel/sense the changes in the magnetic field. Study turned out that they SEE the magnetic lines and the magnetic field.
Your size and make-up determines how you will experience a wave or sound,
this implies that SOUND is what it is but your RECORDING TOOLS [depending on how big or small you are] determine on how and in which spectrum this sound is translated and if it has any impact.
Our EYES and EARS [and hairs!] determine the SPECTRUM that is able to receive/percept/observe.
Imo that is 1 of the reasons why some lifeforms act differently to being in space and are able to multiply and trive in space without being harmed by any ray's or without having gravity !
THINK back about the PHOBOS-GRUNT space-mission and the experiments they carried out on the oldest specimen of lifeforms on Earth ... bacteria and worms and jelly's etc proved to be doing well in space !!!
I think that in case of the Jelly's : they perceive/receive the world/reality IN A DIFFERENT SPECTRUM, and thats why radio-activity is not a threatening vibration to them, the same goes for THE BLACK FUNGUS in Chernobyl !Oh yeah, it was in relation to the booms, that's right. So a sound is silent as it travels through space, and in most cases would fizzle out because the wave lengths and power behind them are not great enough to travel exceptionally long distances (I think) but in some cases, such as a super nova maybe? Some remnants might make it here? Maybe. It was an idea only. K: No sweet monkey, ... a sound is NEVER SILENT !
In fact SILENCE is an illusion,
silence is the inability to incorporate a certain specific vibration [or more] into your spectrum of hearing/sensing.
As shown before : everything is vibration, thus everything has sound, but not all can be registered coz our ears do not cover every sound-spectrum just like our eyes cant see ultra-violet light that does affects us, and there are rays of light and waves of sounds that we cant see/hear and which do not affect us.
Sound travelling in space is a wave, or a stream of oscillating particles that vibrate and form a harmonic effect. It does not "fizzle out" becoz the power behind it is not great enough, it is not that certain particles just fall still and do nothing any more ... but it is that environmental influences [different electro-magnetic and gravitational fields, penetrating gamma ray's, disturbing commets etc] can change the TONE and vibration of particles and waves so that they will sound different. They dont "fade out" they just change designation. Just like when a neutrino changes the designation [ratation-speed-vibration] of a particle this is only witnessed becoz the RESULT is visible to us > Cherencov Radiation ! ...
This particle did not fade-out, but it only changed.
Life and the Universe are a never ending story of recycling !!!! NOTHING GOES LOST !!!! Everything IS, always and forever !
This is NOT a spiritual dogma, but an UNIVERSAL LAW.Which brings me to you air quakes K. Could the start of an air quake cause a deep 'low' for instance, which then brings in a rush of air, which then creates a swirl, which makes a hurricane? And this is maybe an equalising effect that the planet needs to do to balance out energy perhaps? Using that same method, man-made weather, which maybe the HAARP stations are used for, creates the same? But rather than the weather event being an equalising thing, the planet must then react to the artificial weather event, and do something else to compensate? K: Yes BHD I think it could, that it is 1 of the results that we witness of it.
Just forget the term AIR, WATER, LAND/solid ... It are all different designations of vibrational particles, yes LAYERS.
But they are indeed interlinked for sure !
Its not the "rush of air" that brings a change and creates a swirl, but it is the change of TONE and vibration that creates THE CHANGE.
 [[[wauwww ... >>LICID MOMENT , light-bulp moment<< ... wormholes must be the same effect and result but then in space !!! Lol, a wormhole [or warp-tunnel] is a kind of Space-hurricane ! Created by changing sound very lokaly, [by creating a space-quake] and the designation [place of out-come] is the result of the harmonics used !!!]]]
I agree that Mother Nature can use these TOOLS to equalise and balance, and that the Elite use it to manipulate and experiment but totally have no clue what they are playing with, and in which manner small RIMPLES can be klinked to great EVENTS {the butterfly effect}.
Yes and Earth has to compensate the stupidness of the Elite ... [but in fact it is not only Earth that does this, her organisms and lifeforms do that untill into the very small ... but also her sibling planets do aid in that and her parent the Sun does that ... our solar-system is also an emphatic UNITY.Now this is getting interesting............ If they know this, from observation, and hypothesise, as we have above, that air is just one form layered matter, and the next down is water (ocean) then what if we manifest the same artificial experiment in oceans? A result is measured etc, and the NEXT layer is land... Deep drilling, and set off the artificial event, and wait for the data to come streaming in........... A BEZERK event? Is this what they have been doing for the last 30 years? Looking at ways of provoking a response, and seeing what the outcomes are? I bet nuclear weapons testing are also part of that. K: Yes ... [I'm seeing a man in a penned yard, with a whip, trying to put a bridle on a wild horse atm] K: The Elite trying to handle and control wild Earth ...OK, air, water, land - what about the outer parts of the system? The Van Alen belts and beyond, into the next relationship, which might be the moon, or the next planet? K: Yes everything in the same MEDIUM in the same Unity, like our solar-system is only one part or cell in a layer in the Universe.
The Universe consists of many multiple layers, yes. We know they did atmospheric tests and exploded nukes within the Van Alen belts. That's how they mapped them in the first place. [also taking out the worlds first (6) sattelites - oops]. K: Think about BOMBING the MOON ! An experiment not only to throw up H20 water-particles ... they already KNEW water was on the moon, but this "experiment" gave them a means to correct an old lie that "there was no water on the moon becoz there was no air or atmosphere".
WATER does NOT NEEDS AIR to exists in Space !
Water and ice are in space :
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
[link to www.nasa.gov]
QUOTE ARTICLE : "Amorphous ice is not like the ice we see here on Earth – it requires intense cold and low pressure to form. These required conditions rarely if ever form on Earth, so this type of ice is found predominately in interstellar medium."
Below your post I will c/p a very important snip of info out of this new research, which ties in with what I said above about lifeforms who can trive in space, and with the Phobos-Grunt LIVE experiment [was a Russia-China experiment].OK, back to the land/sea bit. Japan is also doing the deepest drilling ever, off their coast. They also have the Fukushima event, and many known volcanos. They also have tested wave weapons, and have had atomic blasts on their soil. The Nomuras are in plague proportions around their coasts. They have an insular culture, derived, alledgedly, from an alien visitor. K: Alien visitor ...
This reminds me of a link that my friend Gary posted on fb:
Source:
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
[link to www.nasa.gov]
QUOTE NASA:
Explanation: Is this an alien? Probably not, but of all the animals on Earth, the tardigrade might be the best candidate. That's because tardigrades are known to be able to go for decades without food or water, to survive temperatures from near absolute zero to well above the boiling point of water, to survive pressures from near zero to well above that on ocean floors, and to survive direct exposure to dangerous radiations. The far-ranging survivability of these extremophiles was tested in 2011 outside an orbiting space shuttle. Tardigrades are so durable partly because they can repair their own DNA and reduce their body water content to a few percent. Some of these miniature water-bears almost became extraterrestrials recently when they were launched toward to the Martian moon Phobos on board the Russian mission Fobos-Grunt, but stayed terrestrial when a rocket failed and the capsule remained in Earth orbit. Tardigrades are more common than humans across most of the Earth. Pictured above in a color-enhanced electron micrograph, a millimeter-long tardigrade crawls on moss.
FB-QUOTE KRISPY:
Gary I definitely think this is a primordial species. Almost all species of extremophiles [wih huge RNA-restore-capability] are primordial imo. It is thought [and I agree ..lol..] that the first lifeforms were RNA-based instead of DNA-based. Only when surroundings and habitats became less extreme and [what WE NOW would call] "hostile and/or acid", only THEN the RNA-based shifted to more DNA-based. DNA works best a more steady environment. ... Just love this stuff
there was also an interesting vid posted about Tardigrades or "Water Bears",
[link to www.youtube.com]
that showed that this little creature could withstand space and conditions of being without water for a long time ...
I say that when this creature's amino acids come in contact with water, it pops out again of its shell and hybernation !
[Just like when amino acids come in contact with amorphous ice ... *See green text below*]
... and just like AUgie does .... There's a lot in that last sentence, even before bringing in anything of a bezerk nature!! Tie in the discussion on waves and layers and I think something might be starting to gell? Only one perspective mind you. Be interested in others.. Source: [ link to www.sciencedaily.com] [ link to www.nasa.gov] AMORPHOUS ICE
The Cosmic Ice Lab is one of the few facilities on Earth where scientists are able to study this type of ice. Using its powerful particle accelerator, this lab has the capability to simulate the cosmic and solar radiation needed to drive these chemical reactions. This is important to understanding the chemistry of ice in regions below the surface of planets and icy moons.
In a small vacuum chamber, Gerakines is able to create his own little patch of deep space. Air is pumped out of the chamber until the pressure drops so low it’s about billions of times lower than the pressure found on Earth, the chamber is then chilled to -433 degrees Fahrenheit (or 15 Kelvin). To produce ice, Gerakines opens a valve and inserts water vapor – instantly freezing the molecules and forming ice.
Amorphous ice is very different from the ice we see on Earth. As shown in the image on the left, ice on Earth is very structured and crystalline typically forming the snowflakes and ice cubes. The mage on the right is amorphous ice which almost acts like a mineral and has a rating of 2.5 on the Mohs hardness scale – comparable to the strength of fingernails.
Despite the lack of amorphous ice on Earth, it is considered the most common form of water in our universe. Thought to be left over from the early stages of the universe, amorphous ice is scattered across the universe, on icy comets and moons, and predominately as particles no larger than dust grains. When creating this type of ice in the lab, Gerakines observes its best to limit the thickness of the ice to about half a micrometer – a strand of spider’s silk is thicker than the ice Gerakines works with every day.
This ultrathin ice is potentially laced with a variety of cosmic chemicals, including amino acids. Scientists have spent many years identifying a vast array of amino acids including the ones involved in life in meteorites and comets. Since water is the major form of frozen material in the universe, it’s likely amino acids have come in contact with water at some point.
Currently Gerakines is experimenting with three separate samples of ice each laced with a different amino acid – glycine, alanine, and phenylalanine. The exciting part of these experiments occurs when the ice is blasted with radiation. Previous studies with amorphous ice used ultra-violet light in place of radiation. Cosmic radiation can penetrate planetary or lunar surfaces and reach hidden ice sources. To simulate radiation, Gerakines uses a proton beam generated from the facilities high-voltage particle accelerator. By using this proton beam, a million years’ worth of radiation damage can be done in a short time. This allows Gerakines to observe the ice as if it was exposed as well as buried at different depths in comets, planets, or icy moons.
He takes each of the three samples of ice/amino acid mixtures, blasts them with radiation and compares them to samples of only amino acids blasted by the same radiation. In between blasts he uses a technique called spectroscopy to measure amino acid breakdown and observe any chemical by-products. The results verified predictions that increased radiation exposure leads to increase amino acid breakdown. The addition of the amorphous ice actually helped slow the amino acid breakdown. This was not predicted as a by-product of water breakdown is hydroxyl (OH) – a chemical “bully” known for attacking other compounds. Spectroscopy confirms the hydroxyl production, but ultimately the water acts as a radiation shield just like rock or soil would.
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