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This is spooky folks, the "War of the Worlds" tralier...

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The question I raise regarding the Nagas or Targzissians is what role did they play in the Sumerian myths translated by Zecharia Sitchin? Even Susan Ferguson relates, in her story about Inanna, how Enki mated with Id, a female Nagas, to produce Marduk. Marduk, according to information given by Inanna, became in essence the epitomy of Satan on Earth in his belligerent and defiant actions against the Council. If the female terracotta effigy shows Id and her son Marduk, one can clearly see how he acquired those distinguishing characteristics which we humans associate with the devil. But what bothers me is the genetic compatibility of a blue-skinned Pleiadian and a creature such as a Nagas or Targ (if they are the same). Personally, I think Enki and Id could not have produced a viable offspring unless they were very close genetically, much closer than mythology depicts. Perhaps the Anunnaki were a mixed group of collaborating ET races, and they referred to each other as half-breeds or cousins in an attempt to convey to humans socially familiar relationships (al. loyalties).

We know that the Targs (also called Dracos by humans) can create telepathic illusions and appear to shape shift. I wonder if the real Enki was in fact a Nagas or Targ who wanted to appear to humans as a human-like Pleiadian. We also have Sumerian myths tell how Enki "mated" with many human females in an attempt to produce male offspring, but he had little success. Enki was a biologist and genetic engineer, among other talents. The women only produced females, which a Sumerian cuneiform text says (according to Sitchin) was an attempt to increase the female population of hybrids (Nefilim). Nice explanation so as not to lose face. The dominance of females could be explained genetically if there was sexual incompatibility (no human male Y chromosome) and if Enki´s genetic experiment at producing hybrids was only partially successful. These are just some thoughts I put forth in an attempt to make sense of all the information and possible disinformation or misinterpretation that has been handed down to us.

Inanna told Ferguson that the Targs and Nagas are not one and the same. And yet some of the images depicted by Riley imply otherwise. I think the Targs and Dracos are one and the same, as evidenced by their use of the same icon or logo, the flying dragon! Perhaps the Targs are very distant relatives of the Nagas, but close enough genetically that they could produce viable offspring.

I am fascinated with how the Targs or Nagas or Dracos (whatever you want to call them) seem to fit so deeply into our mythology, fantasies, and fears. Much like the Native Americans, who were decimated and subjugated by the invading Anglo-Saxons, the Nagas may have been decimated and subjugated by an invading group of Pleiadians, who themselves were allied with various other ET races (including the ancestors of the Nagas, the Targzissians).

The victors in these two wars might tend to look down upon their victims as savages, evil, untrustworthy, and dangerous (propoganda) in order to keep them defeated through prejudice, while those who were subjugated hold their suppressors in equal disrespect and contempt. Within any group of victims there would be militant individuals who will strike back at their suppressors when given the opportunity (terrorism).

The suppressors, out of a need to maintain superiority and control, create laws, propoganda, and prejudice which labels their opponents as criminals, evil, or even Satanic. And when the political climate required it, they would depict the other race in the worst possible light (i.e. darkness). If the Nagas were worshipped in a Matriarchal society by our ancestors, one can easily see why the Patriarchy and an all male pantheon of Gods (depicted today by the all male Holy Trinity) was established: There was a fear-based need to eradicate any and all remnants (memory) of that past so that their (our) enemy could not once again regain strength.

I cannot help but reflect on how in the Star Trek movie, Generations, the leader of the Borg is depicted as a diabolical female who controls an all male work force. What a Freudian slip! Was that idea something that bubbled up from the unconscious (where our worst fears are stored) into the minds of the script writers?

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"The question I raise regarding the Nagas or Targzissians is what role did they play in the Sumerian myths translated by Zecharia Sitchin? Even Susan Ferguson relates, in her story about Inanna, how Enki mated with Id, a female Nagas, to produce Marduk. Marduk, according to information given by Inanna, became in essence the epitomy of Satan on Earth in his belligerent and defiant actions against the Council."



[link to www.google.com]

"Assuras=Targs - Nagas or Targzissians (also called Dracos by humans) ? Inanna says they are called the "Nagas" in
sanscrit. Their lineages are described in great length in the Mahabharata."

[link to www.soulinvitation.com]

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

Refer to Agharians and Dracos:


A group of Asiatic or Nordic humans who, sources claim, discovered a vast system of caverns below the region of the Gobi desert and surrounding areas thousands of years ago, and have since established a thriving kingdom within, one which has been interacting with other-planetary systems up until current times.

Professor de Souza, in his capacity as leader of the Brazilian Theosophists, had for years been interested in the Agharti legend, and the more he pondered over the underground king­dom and its network of tunnels, and how it was conceivable that anyone might utilize them without a very special form of transport, the more he came to the conclusion that the Flying Saucers were the answer. That the subterranean dwellers were an advanced people seemed beyond doubt, so if they were cap­able of living and thriving beneath the Earth´s surface there was surely no reason why they should not have developed a form of transport far more sophisticated than anything known on Earth. And the very shape, manoeuvrability and speed with which these craft were credited seemed to make them ideally suited for traversing the network of tunnels that lead to and from the underground kingdom.

In 1957, the ideas of de Souza and Strauss were carefully examined by a writer named O. C. Huguenin in a book called From The Subterranean World To The Sky: Flying Saucers. After declaring that `the hypothesis of the extra-terrestrial origin of the flying saucers does not seem acceptable´, Huguenin wrote: We must consider the most recent and interesting theory that has been offered to account for the origin of flying saucers: the existence of a great Subterranean World with innumerable cities in which live millions of inhabitants. This other humanity must have reached a very high degree of civilization, economic organization and social, cultural and spiritual development, together with an extraordinary scientific progress, in comparison with whom the humanity that lives in the Earth´s surface may be considered as a race of barbarians. According to the information supplied by Commander Paulo Strauss, the Subterranean World is not restricted to caverns, but is more or less extensive and located in a hollow inside the Earth large enough to contain cities and fields, where live human beings and animals, whose physical structure resembles those on the surface. Huguenin then describes how these people, far in advance of the rest of humanity in terms of scientific development, devised machines called Vimanas that `flew in the skies and the tunnels like aircraft, utilising a form of energy obtained directly from the atmosphere´. They were, he says, ´identical with what we know as Flying Saucers´.

[link to www.burlingtonnews.net]


Apparently "soulless" entities which have been associated with the neo-saurian or reptilian genetic lines. These beings are said to hail from the Alpha Draconis star system.


Cybernetic forms controlled by reptilian entities. These would also include those forms which are animated by fallen supernatural or paraphysical entities, whether of ´gray,´ ´human-like´, ´mechanical´ or other configuration. There are some who suggest that human-appearing ´infiltrators´ of this type may exist in our society, and that certain characteristics might give them away--i.e. the eyes, a slightly sulfurous smell, unrefined features such as no fingerprints or ears or other ´body´ parts which seem to have a slight ´artificial´ appearance.

[link to www.worldofthestrange.com]


Reptilian beings who are said to have established colonies in Alpha Draconis. Like all reptilians, these claim to have originated on Terra thousands of years ago, a fact that they use to ´justify´ their attempt to re-take the earth for their own. They are apparently a major part of a planned ´invasion´ which is eventually turning from covert infiltration mode to overt invasion mode as the "window of opportunity" (the time span before International human society becomes an interplanetary and interstellar power) slowly begins to close. They are attempting to keep the "window" open by suppressing advanced technology from the masses, which would lead to eventual Terran colonization of other planets by Earth and an eventual solution to the population, pollution, food and other environmental problems. Being that Terrans have an inbred "warrior" instinct the Draconians DO NOT want them/us to attain interstellar capabilities and therefore become a threat to their imperialistic agendas."

[link to www.worldofthestrange.com]

[link to www.thecomingoftan.com]


This is the underworld. Hindu. aka Agharti, Agharta network, which
includes Mt. Shasta, CA, and other energy centers of earth. These are
the good guys. Their space fleet is called the ´Silver Fleet´.
Andromodans (per Collier) say these lived on the planet Maldek (now the
asteroid belt) and were the lost tribe if Lyrae. They were also called
Ari-an. Note the Celestine Prophecy also mentions humans evolving to a
higher state of ´energy´ or consciousness."

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Capital of Agharta, the Hindu underworld. One opening located in the Gobi desert. This is also associated with Orion and the Nordics. Perhaps the real Shamballah is in Orion and a door is in the Gobi desert. Hindu."

[link to www.think-aboutit.com]

[link to www.galactic-server.com]

[link to home.comcast.net]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
For the hypothetical planet, see Marduk (planet). For the Black Metal band, see Marduk (band).

Marduk and his dragon, from a Babylonian cylinder sealMarduk (Sumerian spelling in Akkadian AMAR.UTU "solar calf"; Biblical Merodach) was the name of a late generation god from ancient Mesopotamia and patron deity of the city of Babylon, who, when Babylon permanently became the political centre of the united states of the Euphrates valley in the time of Hammurabi (18th century BC), rose to the position of the head of the Babylonian pantheon.

Marduk´s original character is obscure, but whatever special traits Marduk may have had were overshadowed by the reflex of the political development through which the Euphrates valley passed and which led to imbuing him with traits belonging to gods who at an earlier period were recognized as the heads of the pantheon. There are more particularly two gods — Ea and Enlil — whose powers and attributes pass over to Marduk. In the case of Ea the transfer proceeds pacifically and without involving the effacement of the older god. Marduk is viewed as the son of Ea. The father voluntarily recognizes the superiority of the son and hands over to him the control of humanity. This association of Marduk and Ea, while indicating primarily the passing of the supremacy once enjoyed by Eridu to Babylon as a religious and political centre, may also reflect an early dependence of Babylon upon Eridu, not necessarily of a political character but, in view of the spread of culture in the Euphrates valley from the south to the north, the recognition of Eridu as the older centre on the part of the younger one.

While the relationship between Ea and Marduk is thus marked by harmony and an amicable abdication on the part of the father in favour of his son, Marduk´s absorption of the power and prerogatives of Enlil of Nippur was at the expense of the latter´s prestige. After the days of Hammurabi, the cult of Marduk eclipses that of Enlil, and although during the four centuries of Kassite control in Babylonia (c. 1570 BC–1157 BC), Nippur and the cult of Enlil enjoyed a period of renaissance, when the reaction ensued it marked the definite and permanent triumph of Marduk over Enlil until the end of the Babylonian empire. The only serious rival to Marduk after ca. 1000 BC is Anshur in Assyria. In the south Marduk reigns supreme. He is normally referred to as Bel "Lord".

When Babylon became the capital of Mesopotamia, the patron deity of Babylon was elevated to the level of supreme god. In order to explain how Marduk seized power, Enûma Elish was written, which tells the story of Marduk´s birth, heroic deeds, and becoming the ruler of the gods. This can be viewed as a form of Mesopotamian apologetics.

In Enûma Elish, a civil war between the gods was growing to a climatic battle. The Anunnaki gods gathered together to find one god who could defeat the gods rising against them. Marduk, a very young god, answered the call, and was promised the position of head god.

When he killed his enemy he "wrested from him the Tablets of Destiny, wrongfully his" and assumed his new position. Under his reign humans were created to bear the burdens of life so the gods could be at leisure.

People were named after Marduk. For example, the Biblical personality Mordechai (Book of Esther) used this Gentile name in replacement of his Hebrew name Bilshan.

Babylonian texts talk of the creation of Eridu by the god Marduk as the first city, ´the holy city, the dwelling of their [the other gods] delight´.

Nabu, god of wisdom, is a son of Marduk.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Enûma Elish:

The epic names three primeval gods: Apsu, the fresh water, Tiamat, the salt water, and their son Mummu, apparently the mist. Several other gods are created, and raise such a clamor of noise that Apsu is provoked (with Mummu´s connivance) to destroy them. Ea (Nudimmud), at the time the most powerful of the gods, intercepts the plan, puts Apsu to sleep and kills him, and shuts Mummu out. Ea then begets a son, Marduk, greater still than himself.

Tiamat is then persuaded to take revenge for the death of her husband. Her power grows, and some of the gods join her. She elevates Kingu and gives him "supreme dominion." A lengthy description of the other gods´ inability to deal with the threat follows. Ultimately, Marduk is selected as their champion against Tiamat, and becomes very powerful. He defeats Tiamat, and forms the world from her corpse. The subsequent hundred lines or so constitute the lost section of Tablet V.

The gods who sided with Tiamat are initially forced to labor in the service of the other gods. They are freed from their servitude when Marduk decides to slay Kingu and create mankind from his blood. Babylon is established as the residence of the chief gods. Finally, the gods confer kingship on Marduk, hailing him with fifty names. Most noteworthy is Marduk´s symbolic elevation over Enlil, who was seen by earlier Mesopotamian civilizations as the king of the gods.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Ultimately, Marduk is selected as their champion against Tiamat, and becomes very powerful. He defeats Tiamat, and forms the world from her corpse."

[link to www.google.com]

[link to www.ldolphin.org]

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
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Marduk and dragons:

[link to www.bible-history.com]

[link to www.bible-history.com]

[link to magic-mirror.4ya.nl]

[link to www.livius.org]

"Originally, Marduk was the city god of Babylon, but in the eighteenth century BCE, he became the supreme god of the Mesopotamian pantheon. As such, he was recognized by the gods of the cities that were subjected by the Babylonian kings. According to myth, Marduk defended the other gods against the diabolical monster Tiamat. After he had killed it, he brought order to the cosmos, built the Esagila, and created mankind. In the poem Enûma êliš it is stated that all other gods are just manifestations of Marduk.

When the Babylonians celebrated New Year (the so-called Akitu festival), they remembered how Marduk had created order in the universe. The heart of this cosmos was Babylon and the Esagila shrine was, therefore, the center of the universe."

[link to www.livius.org]

"But Marduk (or Merodach), a younger god the sun-god armed with bows and arrows, mace and lightning, fought her on the condition that he be recognized as supreme."

[link to www.theserenedragon.net]

Merodach is close to "Merovech" or "Merovee"

[link to www.google.com]

[link to www.google.com]

"In New Testament times the idea of the two spiritual kingdoms is clearly established. The devil is a fallen angel who in his fall has drawn multitudes of the heavenly host in his train. Our Lord terms him "the Prince of this world"; he is the tempter of the human race and tries to involve them in his fall. Christian imagery of the devil as the dragon is mainly derived from the Apocalypse, where he is termed "the angel of the bottomless pit", "the dragon", "the old serpent", etc., and is represented as having actually been in combat with Archangel Michael. The similarity between scenes such as these and the early Babylonian accounts of the struggle between Merodach and the dragon Tiamat is very striking."

[link to www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com]

[link to www.piney.com]

"A universal myth is that of the sun god fighting the dragon and eventually worsting it, which represents the descent of spirit into matter and the eventual sublimation of matter by spirit in the ascending arc of evolution. There are Bel (and later Merodach) and the dragon Tiamat in Babylonia and with the Hebrews; Fafnir in Scandinavia; Chozzar with the Peratae Gnostics; among the Greeks Python conquered by Apollo and the two serpents killed by Hercules at his birth; the fight between Ahti and the evil serpent in the Kalevala; and many other such stories. In the Christian Apocalypse the dragon plays a great part, but it has been often misinterpreted as evil just as Satan or the Devil has been imagined as the foe of divinity and humanity."

[link to www.piney.com]

Now, note this: Merovech and dragons:

[link to www.google.com]

"Of course, throughout history serpents have been used as metaphors for corruptive evil working its way into our society, from the snake in the garden to the cobra that bit Ra, poisoning the sun god and forcing him to reveal his magical secrets to Isis. Serpents are the guardians and the purveyors of secrets. In his book The Sirius Mystery Robert Temple posits that the secret knowledge of the star Sirius that is preserved by the Dogon people of Africa is similar to lost astrological knowledge preserved by the cult of Soth-Isis in Egypt, and that knowledge is related to the mythical origins of the Babylonians preserved by the historian Berossus telling of Oannes, a serpentine sea-being (also piscene) who brought language and culture to Babylon and who eventually transformed into the sea-god Dagon. It´s interesting to consider that Berossus indicates that the Babylonian culture derives its culture from a sea god when one considers the Sumerian myths of Apsu and Tiamat the Serpent Queen, both great beasts of chaos (and chaos was often identified with water) who presented the Tablets of Destiny (writing that could change the world) to their servant Kingu, only to see Kingu and eventually even Tiamat defeated by Marduk, son of Ea, who can be seen as a similar oceanic deity himself...and Marduk was himself identified with dragons. This strange rivalry between serpent and dragon can even be seen in the combat between England and France in the time of King Henry V of Lancaster...for France was the kingdom of Merovech, who confronted Atilla the Hun (who bore the sword of the god of war, according to some) and who claimed descent from, of all thing, a fish-woman hybrid remarkably similar to Oannes/Dagon."

[link to www.onceinoticediwasonfireidecidedtorelaxandenjoythefall.org​]

[link to www.illuminati-news.com]

[link to www.google.com]

""In the Typhonian Tradition the Bear is the constellation of Ursa Major. The stars must be aligned in a specific way in order for Set [Satan] to be properly invoked. To the Priory of Sion (the secret, occult organization dedicated to preserving the Merovingian Bloodline), the Bear was an animal of the Goddess Diana. According to Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, the authors of The Templar Revelation, ´ ...the Merovingian kings, from their founder Merovee to Clovis (who converted to Christianity in 496) were ´pagan kings of the cult of Diana´.´ Picknet and Prince got this information from the Dossiers Secrets of the Priory of Sion.""

[link to watch.pair.com]

"The beasts of Daniel 7 are also found as the composite beast which John saw rising out of the sea in his vision described in Revelation 13:1,2. Please recall that the Bistea Neptunis or "beast of the sea" which is believed to be "ever incarnate in the dynasty of ancient kings" and whose symbol was a fish, clearly identifies the mystical Merovingian Fisher-Kings, who blasphemously claim to be of the bloodline of Jesus Christ:

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
"And the beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD, and his feet were as the feet of a BEAR, and his mouth as the mouth of a LION: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat and great authority."
Since Revelation 13 is identical to Daniel 7, future kingdoms are also symbolically represented. And like Daniel 7, Revelation 13 describes in symbols the British-Israel movement as the BEAST THAT RISES UP OUT OF THE SEA. However, modern prophecy teachers have prevented the identification of beast kingdom as the Merovingian dynasty by erroneously correlating the empires of Daniel 7 with those in Daniel 2. This misinterpretation of Daniel 7 has been a primary factor in perpetuating a general ignorance of the Merovingian conspiracy, and has insured that its direction of world affairs behind the scenes will continue largely unnoticed."

[link to watch.pair.com]

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]

WAKE UP! The Merovingians are Merovee are Merovech are Merodach are Marduk are Nagas... the invasion is occurring right under your nose!!!
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Gobi Desert: Sanskrit Hinduism Dictionary on agarthi


Cave complex under the himalayas from a ruined gobi desert civilization. Their traditions include: following the right hand path, being easy to understand, having a religious orthodoxy, being filled with superstitions, having a priestcraft and using prayers of dubious value. See: shambhala.

(See also: agarthi , Hinduism, Hinduism Dictionary, Sanskrit Dictionary, Body Mind and Soul)

Gobi Desert: New Age Spirituality Dictionary on Shambhala


1) According to Theosophy, the physical headquarters of the planetary government, situated in the Gobi Desert, Mongolia. 2) An utopia located in the Himalayas

2) the Spiritual birthplace of civilization. See Shambhala, Shangri-la, Agartha

(See also: Shambhala , New Age Spirituality, Body Mind and Soul)

Gobi Desert: Spiritual - Theosophy Dictionary on Gobi Desert, Shamo Desert


(See also: Gobi Desert, Shamo Desert , Mysticism, Mysticism Dictionary, Occultism, Occultism Dictionary)

[link to www.experiencefestival.com]

[link to www.google.com]

[link to www.wisdomworld.org]

"Thousands of years ago, 32 extraterrestrial beings, that represented different civilization united by the forces of light, arrived to Earth in order to establish an Inner Positive Government…the Great White Brotherhood of the planet. This took place in the ancient Shamo Desert, that today is known as the Gobi and is shared by China and Mongolia.

This event, born from the most remote and misterious sands of this Asian desert, was a seed of the light, a call of alert for humanity during a definitive and defining moment in its history. Shambhalla, the spiritual center of the intra terrestrial world of Agartha would become the matrix city and "focus of enlightenment".

Today, it is not difficult to hear from the mouths of Tibetan Lamas about the existence of this enclave, once founded in the past by "Teachers from the Cosmos", with the purpose of counteracting the influence of darkness in the world, and of becoming a beacon of light and information, destined for a future humanity, whose purpose will be to restore the lost order between Heaven and Earth.

As Time Passes By

With the aid of their advanced technology and of a powerful golden disc, built with a combination of otherworldly and earthly elements, they were able to "read" what is known as the Akashic Record, that would be none but what is known as Van Allen´s Belt. Information about the history and origin of our planet and its possible future, as a logical consequence of everything that has transpired, was obtained. This type of information is contained in what is known as "The Book of Those with White Robes" which really consists of a kind of cosmic library, made up of special rock crystals and metallic plates with ideograms. In due time, this information will be revealed for human beings to listen to their true past and origins, to understand their present and, on this basis, to be able to build a future of peace and harmony upon the Earth, well connected with other civilizations from the Universe.

After the 32 extraterrestrial teachers arrived to the Gobi Desert, some 12,000 years ago, what we could call the White Brotherhood´s "Second Generation", consisting of Atlantean survivors, carried on. These had established themselves in subterranean refuges in many parts of the world. Nowdays, the descendants of those that survived Plato´s lost world, still continue living in the subterranean world, protecting the archives that hold the "invisible knowledge" reserved for humanity´s future.

Paititi or El Dorado, in the misterious jungle of Peru, Mount Shasta in California, the Roncador Mountain Range in the Brazilian Matogrosso, the Caverns of Upper Egypt and Lake Titicaca in the Bolivian and Peruvian highlands, are some of the most powerful points that remind us of the secret world of the Keepers of the Eternal Knowledge."

[link to www.misionrahma.com]

[link to www.theos-world.com]

Manuscripts from the Gobi
by Mark Jaqua

[reprinted from Protogonos, Spring 1989]

Many a lost secret lies buried under wastes of sand in the Gobi desert of Eastern Turkestan ... Beneath the surface is said to lie such wealth in gold, jewels, statuary, arms, utensils, and all that indicates civilization, luxury and fine arts ... awaiting the day when the revolution of cyclic periods shall again cause their story to be known for the instruction of mankind.

— Isis Unveiled, Vol. II, pp 361, 598

... well educated and learned natives of India and Mongolia ... speak of immense libraries reclaimed from the sand, together with various reliques of ancient magic lore, which have all been safely stowed away.

— Secret Doctrine, p. xxxiv

Peter Hopkirk´s book "Foreign Devils on the Silk Road" (Un, of Mass. Press, 1984) on the early twentieth century treasure hunt in Chinese Turkestan is a book as full of real-life adventure, mystery and intrigue as one is likely to find. This is a particularly mysterious area of the world, and we are told in Blavtasky´s Secret Doctrine that it is the most occultly significant part of the planet, holding for ages one of the headquarters of the Lodge she represented.

The Gobi desert, where rainfall may come once in ten years, is a vast expanse that stretches some fifteen hundred miles east to west and two to five hundred north and south. It has also been called the "Shamo" desert and more modernly has been geographically divided into the Taklamakan and Gobi deserts. To its south lie India and Tibet, to the north Russia and Mongolia, and to its east, China. Shortly after the beginning of the Christian era trade routes, which later came to be know as the "Silk Road," were established along its northern and southern boundaries. Oasis towns were able to be established along rivers emptying into the desert from the gradually melting glaciers left with the last ice age. As the glaciers gradually melted, the rivers dried up, and the oasis trading towns gradually were abandoned and left to be covered by the drifting sands.

While this area remained untouched for a thousand years, almost at the sounding of a bell in the 1890´s and early twentieth century Western explorers and archeologists began extensive work in the area until 1930 when China would no longer allow foreign exploration. Scores of ancient cities and temples were dug from the sand and tons of artifacts and manuscripts were transported to Western museums, much to the later chagrin of the Chinese. (It is believed by many, that hadn´t the Westerners "pillaged" the area, most of their finds would have been destroyed by later political upheaval, economic development of the areas, etc. A common example was that local farmers were fond of scraping the paint off thousand-year-old frescoes to use as fertilizer.)

In 1895 Sven Hedin of Sweden was the first Westerner to launch an expedition into the area, several years after the discovery of the "Bower Manuscript" by native treasure hunters. This was a fifth century Buddhist text on medicine and "necromancy" and determined to be one of the oldest existing pieces of writing. Various other manuscripts also found their way into western experts´ hands. These discoveries " ... sent a shock-wave through the world of Indian scholarship, pointing to the existence of a forgotten Buddhist civilization in China´s back of beyond."

Sven Hedin´s first valuable find resulted from returning to get a forgotten shovel and stumbling upon a buried city in the dunes at Lou-lan. The library of a Buddhist monastery was discovered at Dandan-uilik that contained Sanskrit texts from the fifth and sixth centuries. A wealth of documents were found in an ancient garbage dump at Niya. At Endere a Buddhist temple was dug from the sand and, among much else, the oldest specimen of Tibetan writing. At Karakhoja Le Coq of Germany found the site so plentiful of finds that he observed an old woman digging up artifacts and manuscripts (which she wanted a high price for!). At Shui-pang a "cartload" of Christian texts dating to the fifth century were found.

Eighth century Manichean texts were found by Le Coq at Karakhoja, although a large number of manuscripts were also tragically lost here when a superstitious native dumped a cartload into the river. Others were discovered to have been destroyed by irrigation water. Nestorian manuscripts were found at sites on the northern border of the Taklamakan. (The Nestorians were an early Christian sect that could not believe that Christ was both divine and human. They were outlawed by the Council of Ephesus in 432 CE and fled eastward.)

The largest manuscript "haul" of all was made initially by Aurel Stein of Britain and later Pelliot of France at Tun-huang at the "Caves of the Thousand Buddhas." Led by rumors, they persuaded a Buddhist monk restoring the cave-temples to reveal a secret chanber he had discovered that was " ... a solid mass of manuscript bundles rising to a height of nearly ten feet, and filling, as a subsequent measurement showed, close to 500 cubic feet." Among them was the oldest block-print book in the world, a "Diamond Sutra" from the ninth century. There were " ... countless manuscripts in Chinese, Sanskrit, Sogdian, Tibetan, Tunic-Turki and Uighure, as well as in unknown languages ... "

Most of the Tun-huang manuscripts ended in the British museum or at the Musee Guimet in Paris. Another cache of texts at Tun-Huang was discovered by Chinese archeologists in the 1940´s and as late as 1977 a Swedish bookseller was offering Tun-Huang manuscripts in his catalog. Of the British-held manuscripts, "Half a century was to pass before these (and then only the complete ones) had been catalogued. In his mongraph, "Six Centuries at Tunhuang," Dr. Lionel Giles, who carried out this titanic task, calculates that in all he had to wade through between ten and twenty miles of closely written rolls of text."

Hopkirk summarises that —

Today the thousands of manuscripts brought back from Chinese Central Asia, written in a multitude of tongues and scripts, are divided among the institutions of at least eight different countries. Very many have still to be translated. The deciphering of one script, or the translation of one collection, can take a man´s entire working life ... Anyone who wishes to understand the contribution these manuscripts have made to the study of Central Asia and Buddhist history can turn to the host of translations, catalogues, monographs and other special studies produced by scholars such as Bailey, Giles, Waley, Maspero, Levi, Konow, Muller, Henning, Hoernle, Pelliot and Chavannes, to name just a few.

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"Thousands of years ago, 32 extraterrestrial beings, that represented different civilization united by the forces of light, arrived to Earth in order to establish an Inner Positive Government…the Great White Brotherhood of the planet. This took place in the ancient Shamo Desert, that today is known as the Gobi and is shared by China and Mongolia."

[link to]

"Great White Brotherhood":

[link to www.google.com]

"So far, archeology knows nothing of the sites of other and far older
civilizations, except the few it has stumbled upon, and to which it has
assigned their respective ages, mostly under the guidance of biblical
chronology. Whether the West had any right to impose upon Universal
History the untrustworthy chronology of a small and unknown Jewish tribe
and reject, at the same time, every datum as every other tradition
furnished by the classical writers of non-Jewish and non-Christian
nations, is questionable. At any rate, had it accepted as willingly data
coming from other sources, it might have assured itself by this time,
that not only in Italy and other parts of Europe, but even on sites not
very far from those it is accustomed to regard as the hotbed of ancient
relics--Babylonia and Assyria--there are other sites where it could
profitably excavate. The immense "Salt Valley" of Dasht-Beyad by
Khorasson covers the most ancient civilizations of the world; while the
Shamo desert has had time to change from sea to land, and from fertile
land to a dead desert, since the day when the first civilization of the
Fifth Race left its now invisible, and perhaps for ever hidden, "traces"
under its beds of sand."

[link to www.gutenberg.org]

[link to www.reptilianagenda.com]

[link to www.illuminati-news.com]

[link to www.ufoindia.org]

[link to roswell.fortunecity.com]

[link to www.thelivingweb.net]

There is no doubt whatsoever that the freemasons are the troops of this conspiracy of a several millenia-long slow-motion alien invasion.

I challenge ANY freemason to dispute the information I have provided here. I will consider your silence to be inability to refute the data.

Freemasons: Your god is Lucifer/Satan. The fallen angels are what you are about. Your objective is to establish a global fascist totalitarian state with a Merovingian king as the head. Your objective is to establish the anti-Christ. If you are a human, you have been totally subverted into the alien agenda. A serpent is your god.

WAKE UP you freemasons who are not free at all but are agents of Lucifer and the fallen angels.
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Dropa Stones and Nagas:

"The story of the Dropa Stones, or more accurately the Dropa Discs begins in the summer of 1938, when a Chinese archaeological expedition begins mapping a series of interlocking caves in a part of the Himilayan Mountains called the Baian Kara Ula Mountains, between the border that divides China and Tibet. The expedition was being led by a Dr. Chi Pu Tei, when they stumbled across a remarkable find. In some of the caves, there were neat lines of graves, and buried in these graves were the remains of a strange people. Averaging about 4 feet in height, they had long spindly limbs and round, large oversized heads. The researchers speculated that they were the remains of apes, but apes are hardly known for burying their dead. More recently it has been suggested that these are the remains of aliens, grey type beings, as we shall see why. As well in other caves there were discovered cave drawings, pictograms of the heavens. The drawings have been carbon dated as being between 10 and 12 thousand years old (reportedly). Then a researcher stumbled across a strange, hand crafted stone disc. It was 9 inches in diameter (approximately), with a 3/4 inch perfectly round
hole in the center of the disc.
This disc was also found to have a "groove" spiraling outward from the center, tightly wound like a Fred Flintstone phonograph album. However, upon further inspection, the groove was found to be no groove at all, but rather a continuous line of written characters or hieroglyphics, unlike any ever seen before. The writing was almost microscopic. In all, 716 of these discs were recovered, ranging in size from several inches to several feet. Nevertheless, the discs and their undeciphered messages sat in the basement of Beijing University. At his point I would like to make two sidenotes. 1. There are unsubstantiated reports (at this time) that the chambers the skeletons, pictograms and discs were in were squared off and gave the appearance of having been created by intense heat melting them. The second one is I personally do not feel that the age of the drawings on the walls can confirm the age of the discs conclusively..
There may have been attempts to decipher the writing between the time they were discovered and 1962, when another Chinese scientist claimed to have unraveled the mystery of the inscriptions. Dr. Tsum Um Nui claimed to do just that, and if his findings are correct, the discs describe possibly our planets first encounters with an alien civilization. Yet the fact is, the stones may well be almost 12,000 years old, and many of the characters were either worn away or were hardly discernable. Yet Dr. Nui transcribed the characters to paper, and after much research, claimed to have decoded the messages. He said the story on the disc describe an alien spaceship crash landing in the mountains, and the occupants initially being met with fear by the tribe known as the Hams. He goes on to say that eventually the aliens made peace with the Hams.

The professor wrote up his findings and presented it to the University for publication. The Academy of Prehistory forbade him to do so. Even so, two years later he did publish his findings in a paper entitled "The Grooved Script Concerning Spaceships Which, as Recorded on the Discs, Landed on Earth 12,000 years ago". No one is quite sure if he got permission to publish his findings or not, but the reaction of the archaeological community was one of scorn and ridicule. As with other findings that challenge accepted scientific doctrine, this far fetched theory was treated no differently. And yet, how do you explain the writing itself ? It is so small you need a magnifying glass to read most of it, and yet many of the characters have been worn away, suggesting an age of at least thousands of years, if not as old as the cave drawings themselves.
Interestingly enough, the isolated area today is inhabited by two tribes of people who call themselves the Ham and the Dropa. They have an average height of 4 feet 2 inches and weigh usually between 38 and 52 pounds. They are yellow skinned with thin bodies and disproportionately large heads. They have very little body hair and have blue irises, unlike most Asians. Make what of it you will, I however doubt that the inhabitants of that area would have been able to reproduce offspring if the original Dropa were indeed alien, which makes me wonder of where their true origins came from. (See my Underworld section). There is also a report that a Russian scientist named W. Saitsew republished the findings of Dr. Nui in 1968. Physically, the stones contained cobalt and other metals, which makes one wonder how primitive people could have inscribed the minute hieroglyphics on such a hard substance.He also tested them
in an oscillograph that produced some more unusual findings. A surprising oscillation rhythm was recorded, as though the discs were once electrically charged or had functioned as electrical conductors. Whatever the true nature of the discs, wherever they came from, they represent a unique challenge to anthropology. If they are man made, how were primitives able to inscribe the discs with such small characters? And if they are indeed the product of extra terrestrials, how profound is that discovery to man kind? If the inhabitants are from under the surface of this planet, why were the "clues" left there? At the very least, the Dropa Stones remain for now one of the greatest mysteries of the unexplained."

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Dowsing Session on the Ruins of City of Kadath Found in Antartica,
New Schwabenland, and Inner Earth

By Philip N. Ledoux
[link to educate-yourself.org]
April 26, 2005

(The following post on chemtrailstrackingusa3 led to an interesting dowse, found after the message. Philip N. Ledoux)

From: steven dainis <platinumchi2u@...
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:33 pm
Subject: Ruins of City of Kadath found in ANTARTICA

What would the NSA be doing barring access to there?

It is long been stated that the 3rd Reich before it was destroyed in Europe had emigrated here to survive in case the 3rd Reich movement failed. New Schwabenland it was/is called, and the 4th Reich headquarters. I believe in 1947, the US Naval fleet got their asses kicked going down there, too. But that was covered up and the CIA was formed that year. NSA formed in 1949.

Now, the poles are entrances to inner worlds and civilazations. They have had plenty of time to make alliances with inner-world folks by now. Maybe they are connected to inner-world Draco leadership headquarters, but I highly doubt that aspect. More like humans, that splintered away eons ago, and continued on inner-Earth and thrived unhindered. I don´s see how bloodthirsty butchers (4th Reich) could form alliances with an advanced form of benevolent humans, but anything is possible. I don´t have time to lay out my thoughts, but this posting I´m forwarding here is genuine. (Philip? pendulum? How about 20 questions? I KNOW you are very busy.....sorry.....I hadda ask!!) Steven.

26 April 2005 02:37

Dowse on: Ruins of City of Kadath found in ANTARTICA

"What would the NSA be doing barring access to there?"

Is NSA barring access? Yes

Is NSA the ultimate authority in that local? No

Is ONI [Office of Naval Intelligence] above NSA? Yes

Is ONI above NSA in that juristiction? Yes

The Russians originally bored and found the lake? Yes

The Americans then tunneled to the location? Yes

Did Americans use the atomic tunneling machine? Yes

"New Schwabenland"

Does New Schwabenland exist in Antantartica? Yes

Is it considered the Fourth Reich? Yes

Is New Schwabenland near Kadath? No

Is New Schwabenland approximately the same depth as Kadath? Yes

Are the Americans in friendly contact with New Schwabenland? No

New Schwabenland has superior technology to the Americans? Yes

Was Admiral Byrd sent with an expedition in 1947 to Antartica? Yes

To destroy New Schwabenland? Maybe

A show of force to then negotiate? Yes

New Schwabenland had the superior force? Yes

Which forced Byrd to retreat? Yes

No negotiations were accomplished? Yes

Is the earth hollow? Yes

Does this inner earth have a central sun? Yes

Is there an advanced civilization in the inner earth? Yes

Factually reported in Admiral Byrd´s "diary"? Yes

The inner earth is populated by giants? Yes

The inner earth is populated by normal sized humans? Yes

There are two civilizations living harmoniously together? Yes

Is New Schwabenland in communication with these civilizations? Yes

The poles are the entrance to the inner earth? Yes

Always have been? Yes

Have previous civilizations tunneled to the inner earth? No

Has New Schwabenland tunneled to the inner earth? No

Has New Schwabenland made physical contact with the inner earth civilizations? Yes

Via the pole openings? Yes

Has New Schwabenland and Inner Earth made alliances? Yes

Have "Dracos" contacted Inner Earth? No

Have Reptilians contacted Inner Earth? No

Does Inner Earth know about Dracos? Yes

Does Inner Earth know about Reptilians? Yes

Are Inner Earth Civilizations "benevolent"? Yes

Are Inner Earth Civilizations war-like? No

If war were brought to the inner earth, the Inner Earth has neutralizing weapons? Yes

Non destructive type weapons? Yes

Neutralize anything? Yes

Similar to Admiral Byrd´s diary? Yes

Are New Schwabenland people allowed to live in the Inner Earth? No

The poisoning and polluting of earth´s surface does not affect the inner earth people? Yes

Because of human´s polluting (etc.) they are not allowed in the Inner Earth? Yes

Through history a few humans have entered the Inner Earth? Yes

These humans have been allowed to live there? Yes

These humans have been allowed to cohabit there? No

Inner Earth fear that interbreeding would introduce destruction? Yes

End of dowse

Philip N. Ledoux

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The ancient Maya had a complex pantheon of deities whom they worshipped and offered human sacrifices. Rulers were believed to be descendants of the Mayan gods and their blood was the ideal sacrifice, either through personal bloodletting or the sacrifice of captives of royal blood.

The Maya vision of the universe is divided into multiple levels, above and below earth, positioned within the four directions of north, south, east and west. After death, the soul was believed to go to the Underworld, Xibalba (shee bal bah), a place of fright where sinister gods tested and tricked their unfortunate visitors.


As with all Myths about Mayan Gods and Goddesses - Mayan Myths discuss connections with being from other realms who came to Earth to seed the planet.

Many people see the story of the Popol Vuh is the story of extraterrestrial Gods who came down and made man in his own image. When they first made man he was so perfect - living as long as they did - he could see far and wide - clairvoyant - and was as perceptive as they were.

They realized that they had made a competitor who was as wise as the Gods themselves. So they destroyed him and started over creating present day man. Modern man lives shorter lifetimes, is not as smart, and is here to act as a servant race to the Gods.

Within their culture they have legends of visiting Gods from outer space. In the last thousand years the being known as Quatzequatl the Great Feathered Serpent was a God who brought the teaching of peace to this part of the world and appeared as a white God with a beard. The drawings of him look almost identical to the drawings of the being known as Ea or Enki in the ancient Sumerian teachings.

In fact they looked like the images we see of Reptilians.


Quatzequatel: Winged God

Mayan god Thoth and Quetzacotal were the same person, Thoth was identified to Atlantis, Egypt, Sumer, then later was identified to Meso America and Peru as Quetzacoatal.

His pyramid was the Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan

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The Black Sun:

Revelation 6:

"(12) I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, (13) and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind."

The Vril Society or The Luminous Lodge combined the political ideals of the Order of the Illuminati with Hindu mysticism, Theosophy and the Cabbala. It was the first German nationalist groups to use the symbol of the swastika as an emblem linking Eastern and Western occultism. The Vril Society presented the idea of a subterranean matriarchal, socialist utopia ruled by superior beings who had mastered the mysterious energy called the Vril Force.

"This secret society was founded, literally, on Bulwer Lytton´s novel The Coming Race (1871). The book describes a race of men psychically far in advance of our own. They have acquired powers over themselves and over things that made them almost godlike. For the moment they are in hiding. They are said to live in caves in the center of the Earth. Soon they will emerge to reign over us."

While researching their classic book, Morning of the Magicians, authors Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels were given the above account by one of the world´s greatest rocket experts, Dr. Willy Ley, who fled Germany in 1933. Dr. Ley said that the Vril Society—which formed shortly before the Nazis came to power—believed they had secret knowledge that would enable them to change their race and become equals of the men hidden in the bowels of the Earth. Methods of concentration, a whole system of internal gymnastics by which they would be transformed.

These methods of concentration were probably based on Ignatius Loyola´s Spiritual Exercises. The Jesuit techniques of concentration and visualization are similar to many occult teachings, especially in shamanic cults and Tibetan Buddhism. The Nazi´s revered these Jesuit Spiritual Exercises, which they believed had been handed down from ancient Masters of Atlantis. The occultists of the time knew that Ignatius was a Basque — some claimed that the Basque people were the last remnant of the Atlantean race — and the proper use of these techniques would enable the reactivation of the Vril for the dominance of the Teutonic race over all others.

The Vril Society believed that whoever becomes master of the Vril will be the master of himself, of others around him and of the world. The belief was that the world will change and the "Lords" will emerge from the center of the Earth. Unless we have made an alliance with them and become "Lords" ourselves, we shall find ourselves among the slaves, on the dung-heap that will nourish the roots of the New Cities that will arise.

In The Unknown Hitler, Wulf Schwarzwaller says:

“In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The Lodge´s objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of "Vril". Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician George Gurdjieff. Both Gurdjieff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with secret Tibetan lodges that possessed the secret of the "Superman." The Lodge included Hitler, Aalfred, Rosenberg, Himmler, Goring and Hitler´s subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that Aleister Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler. Hitler´s unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if one keeps in mind that he had access to the "secret" psychological techniques of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis and the Tibetan lamas and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon.”

The Vril Force and the Black Sun
In Lytton´s The Coming Race, the subterranean people use the Vril Force to operate and govern the world (a few children armed with vril-powered rods are said capable of exterminating a race of over 22 million threatening barbarians). Served by robots and able to fly on vril-powered wings, the vegetarian Vril-ya are — by their own reckoning — racially and culturally superior to everyone else on Earth, above or below the ground. At one point the narrator concludes (from linguistic evidence) that the Vril-ya are "descended from the same ancestors as the great Aryan family, from which in varied streams has flowed the dominant civilization of the world."

The Vril Force or Vril Energy was said to be derived from the Black Sun, a big ball of "Prima Materia" which supposedly exists in the center of the Earth, giving light to the Vril-ya and putting out radiation in the form of Vril. The Vril Society believed that Aryans were the actual biological ancestors of the Black Sun.

This force was known to the ancients under many names, and it has been called Chi, Ojas, Vril, Astral Light, Odic Forces and Orgone. In a discussion of the 28th degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry—called Knight of the Sun or Prince Adept— Albert Pike said, "There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world."

This is the force that the Nazis and their inner occult circle were so desperately trying to unleash upon the world, for which the Vril Society had apparently groomed Hitler. A manifestation of the "Great Work" promulgated by the Adepts of secret societies throughout the ages. The Vril Society latched on to a very old archetype already in the minds of alchemists and magicians, which was only re-interpreted, by Lytton, in light of that age of occult revival and scientific progress.

The idea of mutation and transformation into a higher form of a "god-man" was envisioned, through the Vril-ya, in Buller-Lytton´s The Coming Race. Lytton, himself, was an initiate of the Rosicrucians and was well versed in the arcane-esoteric philosophies (and of course the greatest advances in the sciences of his day). "Through his romantic works of fiction he expressed the conviction that there are beings endowed with superhuman powers. These beings will supplant us and bring about a formidable mutation in th elect of the human race."(J. Bergier)

This is where the philosophy turns dangerous. The moment we speak of an elect and "illumined" class which is above the general populace, you inevitably encounter racism and classism — with fascism in due course. "We must beware of this notion of a mutation," Bergier warns. "It crops up again with Hitler, and is not extinct today."

Bergier and Pauwels were writing in 1960, but today this philosophy is, sadly, once again in the forefront of popular culture. The New World Order, so vehemently opposed, is under the direct influence and guidance of the New Age Movement. A hodgepodge of occult doctrines and dangerous socialism, which hides under a cover of "spiritual enlightenment." Theosophy is considered the main foundation, and its founder, Mme. Blavatsky, was a great admirer of Lytton´s. In The Occult Conspiracy, the excellent researcher, Michael Howard, writes about the compatibility of the two philosophies:

“Blavatsky had read Bulwer Lytton´s novels and was very impressed by their occult content, especially Zanoni and the Last Days of Pompeii. The latter was published in 1834 and dealt with the time between early Christianity and the Mysteries of Isis in Italy in the first century A.D.

Blavatsky´s esotericism was virulently anti-Christian...The racial ideas of Madame Blavatsky, concerning root races and the emergence of a spiritually-developed type of human being in the Aquarian Age, were avidly accepted by the nineteenth-century German nationalists who mixed Theosophical occultism with anti-Semitism and the doctrine of the racial supremacy of the Aryan or Indo-European peoples.”

Vril Powered Nazi UFOs?
Perhaps the most wild claims still circulating about the Vril Society, and its offshoot The Thule Society, is the legends of a secret Nazi UFO program. Presumably the Vril Society established contact with the "Secret Chiefs" or the Vril-ya themselves, and secretly began cooperating with certain German scientists in the late 20´s.

As early as 1936 Hitler was sending teams of "Spelunkers" into caves and mines all over Europe searching for the Vril-ya. The Nazi´s had also explored Antarctica extensively during the years 1937-38. In search of the fabled hole of the South Pole they apparently had success, like Admiral Byrd, in discovering these entrances. It was here that some say they made contact with the "Unknown Superman" who lived in the fabled "Rainbow City".

"In his controversial presentation UFO Secrets of the Third Reich, Vladimir Terziski draws a connection between alien beings and such German secret societies as the Tempelhoff,the Thule, the Vril, and the Black Sun. Terziski tells of an "alien tutor race" that secretly began cooperating with certain German scientists in the late 1920´s in underground bases and began to introduce their concepts of philosophical, cultural, and technological progress." (The Rainbow Conspiracy, p.62)

"With help from extraterrestrial intelligences, Terziski postulates, the Nazis mastered antigravity space flight, established space stations, accomplished time travel,and developed their spacecraft to warp speeds. At the same time the aliens "spread their Mephistophelean ideas" into the wider German population through the Thule and Vril Societies."

"Terziski maintains that antigravity research began in Germany in the 1920´s with the first hybrid antigravity circular craft, the RFZ-1, constructed by the Vril Society. In 1942-43 a series of antigravity machines culminated in the giant 350-foot long, cigar-shaped Andromeda space station, which was constructed in old zeppelin hangars near Berlin by E4, the research and development arm of the SS."(ibid p.62, Brad Steiger)

A familiar tune by now for those familiar with UFOlore. Many books have claimed this as well — although none of them seem to agree on one particular scenario. Many photographs have also turned up as would be expected. Some have been exposed as hoaxes while others remain "unknowns". The Allies confiscated every scrap of Nazi documents, and most are still classified to this day. It is well known that the Germans had some out-of-this-world research for the time. Incidentally, the Vril Society´s existence was verified in the pilfered records and is in the possession of the British.

If in fact the Vril-Ya do exist and the Nazis did indeed establish contact with this superior race, then we could assume that this antigravity propulsion worked on the principles of Vril force. On the other hand, the Nazis, it has already been established, were driven by occult groups, like the Vril society, whose workings extended into the reaches of just such a force that would lead to the discovery Vril. So whether the tale of the Vril-Ya is for real or not is besides the point. Many have discovered this force independently of Lytton´s work. It will continue to be suppressed. And for exactly the reasons that Lytton warned about in his book.

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Vril Society
In November of 1996 I received a video about World War II Germany pre and post - and a secret organization named Vril its name linked to Atlantean time lines and one of its language - composed of sounds and clicks.

The video mentioned that - in Germany at the turn of the century and particularly after WW I many secret societies developed. One of these groups was the Vril Society.

In 1917 four members of the Vril society met in a cafe in Vienna. There was one woman and three men. The woman was a ´spiritual medium´. They met under a veil of mystery and secrecy. They discussed secret revelations, the coming of the new age, the Spear of Destiny, the magical violet black stone, and making contact with ancient peoples and distant worlds.

Their source of power was the Black Sun, an infinite beam of light which - though invisible to the human eye - exists in anti-matter.

The Vril emblem became the Black Sun - a secret philosophy thousand of years old provided the foundation on which the occult practioners of the Third Reich would later build. The Black Sun symbol can be found in many Babylonian and Assyrian places of worship. They depicted the Black Sun - the godhead´s inner light in the form of a cross. This was not much different from the German´s Knight´s Cross.

The woman allegedly channeled information from aliens after which the Thule was crteated. they went on to build something called the Vril Machine. It allegedly was a saucer shape interdimensional time travel machine. Their first flight was allegedly in 1934.

Thule Society members were allegedly the first group to attempt the back-engineering of an extraterrestrial spacecraft. "A German writer, John Von Helsing, describes the discovery of a crashed saucer in the Black Forest in 1936 and says that this technology was taken and combined with the information the Vril Society had received through channeling and was made into a further project called the Haunebu.

German aircraft historian Henry Stevens states, "Haunebu 1 was allegedly the first large flying saucer developed in Germany. According to plans allegedly obtained from classified German SS files, the Haunebu 1 was approximately seventy-five feet in diameter and probably lifted off for the first time in August 1939, a few weeks before the outbreak of World War II.

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In 1919 Karl Haushofer founded a second order, the "BRUDER DES LICHTS" (Brothers of the Light) that later was renamed "VRIL-GESELLSCHAFT". In this united the new Templar order "DIE HERREN VOM SCHWARZEN STEIN" (DHvSS, The Lords of the Black Stone) that emerged in 1917 from the Teutonic Order, and the "SCHWARZE RITTER" (Black Knights) of the Thule and SS elite "SCHWARZE SONNE" (Black Sun).

To compare the THULE and the VRIL-GESELLSCHAFTEN, it is easiest said the Thule-Gesellschaft dealt with material and political interests, while the Vril-Gesellschaft was more oriented towards the OTHER SIDE. But many concepts they shared, like Atlantis, Thule, the basic connection between the Teutons and Mesopotamia, but also the old sacred places like the "Externsteine" (external stones) or the Hausberg at Stronegg were areas of common research.

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George Bush and the alien/Nazi invasion:

[link to www.yale.edu]

"I am speaking of a new engagement in the lives of others, a new activism, hands-on and involved, that gets the job done. We must bring in the generations, harnessing the unused talent of the elderly and the unfocused energy of the young. For not only leadership is passed from generation to generation, but so is stewardship. And the generation born after the Second World War has come of age.

I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation, doing good. We will work hand in hand, encouraging, sometimes leading, sometimes being led, rewarding. We will work on this in the White House, in the Cabinet agencies. I will go to the people and the programs that are the brighter points of light, and I will ask every member of my government to become involved. The old ideas are new again because they are not old, they are timeless: duty, sacrifice, commitment, and a patriotism that finds its expression in taking part and pitching in."

Points of light... brotherhood of light... Lucifer is the "light bearer" --


The invasion is underway!

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BushCo and the Fallen Angel/Aliens:

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[link to www.apfn.org]

[link to www.666beast.com]

[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au]

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You are welcome to attempt to disprove what I have posted here. Calling people names is the last bastion of a losing argument.

Please disprove the case.
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"In his controversial presentation UFO Secrets of the Third Reich, Vladimir Terziski draws a connection between alien beings and such German secret societies as the Tempelhoff,the Thule, the Vril, and the Black Sun. Terziski tells of an "alien tutor race" that secretly began cooperating with certain German scientists in the late 1920´s in underground bases and began to introduce their concepts of philosophical, cultural, and technological progress." (The Rainbow Conspiracy, p.62)

Vladimir Terziski:

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[link to www.magonia.demon.co.uk]

[link to members.fortunecity.com]

Researcher Vladimir Terziski believes, in spite of all the descrip-
tions of ´aliens´ given by abductees, that there are also craft con-
structed by ´the Illuminati´ which are taking advantage of the ´alien´
question by attempting to pass off their own black projects as
´alien technology´. Although Terziski is uncertain as to the exist-
ence of the so-called ´greys´, he does admit his belief in an ancient
human-like society which possesses antigravity craft.
Terziski states that whether or not the ´greys´ exist, the New
World Order may be using the ´external´ alien threat as a means to
bring about world unity after the fall of Russia while "...at the same
time hundreds of valid, but undesirable ET contacts with...more
advanced races are debunked or ignored by the government."
If some researchers are correct, Bavarian Intelligence [the
Illuminati´s Skull & Bones society, the Thule Societies "Nazi"
Empire, and the CIA-NSA network that was ´german´ated from
within the Bavarian Illuminati and Bavarian Thule societies] are
actually working with the ´Greys´ in secret. Even if the ´New World
Order´ declares ´war´ on these creatures, as opposed to a grass-
roots ´human resistance´, one can be assured that this war be a
farce as have other conflicts in the past. It would very well be like
the Korean war conflict wherein SOCIALISTS within the ´United
Nations´ waged a no-win ´police action´ against southeast Asian
COMMUNISTS. General George Douglas MaCarthur for one
accused the Socialist leadership of the U.N. of intentionally
SABOTAGING his forces in Korea by leaking American positions
to their Communist allies. Now in recent years ´Patriot´ organi-
zations have been warning of a possible "RED DAWN" takeover of
the U.S. by Socialist UNITED NATIONS troops who NOW HAVE
within the borders of the United States. (If such a take-over
attempt were to occur, we would suggest that the UNITED
NATIONS complex in New York City increase it´s security by at
least a thousand fold to defend itself from the retaliation that would
follow. Let´s just say that there is an entire ´Army´ of grass-roots
Patriots waiting-in-the-wings to defend America from such a threat
if or when such an invasion is attempted). The Bavarian "National"
Socialists who ultimately control the U.N., such as the Trilaterals,
are reportedly tied-in with the reptilian gray empire, so it is doubtful
that any resistance to the invaders will come through the Trojan-
horse United Nazis (er, excuse us... United Nations!). Such a
´war´ may be the grand finale of a series of outward Machiavellian
´conflicts´ which the Bavarian Empire has allegedly ´arranged´
between nations over the centuries for the purpose of simply
keeping the human race in the state of disorder, chaos, confusion
and fear which is so necessary to ensure the final goal -- an
absolute electronic dictatorship in which every human being will
be ´tagged´ and branded like cattle with an electronic chip implant
which will make them the absolute spiritual, mental and physical
slaves of the ´New World Order´. Multitudes may be deceived into
receiving this "mark" of the Beast (or the "Serpent"?) and in doing
so will have relinquished the greatest thing that they possess,
their FREE AGENCY (and with it, their soul).
Terziski alleges that the Illuminati has been involved in top
secret ´space R&D´ [Research & Development] since the turn of
the century, and that the Nazi´s, the American Eastern Establish-
ment, and the KGB has been involved as well. In other words, the
lower classes of all these nations were themselves largely un-
familiar with such top secret research, although the ´Illuminists´
working in the highest levels of internationalism were and are
intricately involved.
Although it may sound rather incredible, Terziski alleges that he
possesses confirming information such as the "...first video expose
of Nazi UFOs. German/Japanese saucer landings on the moon
and Mars in 1944-46, Marconi group´s landing on Mars in 1956...
video footage of Nazi interplanetary dreadnoughts and of secret
Soviet-American saucer landing on Mars." Although many of the
´Greys´ have been described as being of neo-saurioid configuration,
other ´Greys´ pose a different mystery as to their origin and seem
to be more of a bio-synthetic or ´manufactured´ configuration.
Vladimir Terziski suggests that some of these greys may be "...a
product of the US government´s biogenetic cyborg R&D program."
(Note: There may have been "secret society" ties behind the AXIS
Alliance of World War II. The JESUITS ORDER of ITALY, accord-
ing to researcher Edmond Paris, had strong connections with
Adolph Hitler´s S.S., and in fact may have been working with the
THULE SOCIETY of GERMANY in establishing the S.S. as the
premier German Intelligence Agency. In turn, according to Trevor
Ravenscroft, the Nazi occult lodges were in close contact with the
and JAPAN were the three members of the "AXIS" powers who
fought against the "ALLIED" alliance: the United States, Great
Britain, and to a lesser degree, Russia - Branton)
Terziski is "...a Bulgarian born engineer and physicist, gradu-
ated Cum Laude from the Master of Science program of Tokai
University in Tokyo in 1980. Served as a solar energy researcher,
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, before immigrating to the U.S. in
1984. International UFO researcher with command of English,
Japanese, Russian, German, and Bulgarian. Creator/lecturer of
UFOLOGY-101 course for University level attendance."
In a June 5, 1993 interview with talk-show host Sam Russell
on K-TALK radio in Salt Lake City, Utah, Vladimir Terziski made
the bold assertion that in one way or another, any independent
scientists who discovers the secret of electromagnetic ´free-energy´
antigravity-propulsion is soon bought off, black-listed or killed by
the Bavarian Illuminati, which has for centuries been extremely
determined to maintain their monopoly on such technology and
keep it out of the hands of the masses. The military arm of the
Bavarian Empire, the Third Reich, was allowed to ´field test´ much
of this technology under supervision during World War II as the
Bavarians were intent on establishing the "New World Order", by
force if necessary.
Terziski also stated that a joint German-Japanese ´suicide´
volunteer crew utilizing this ´confiscated´ Illuminati ´free-energy´
technology -- a Hanz-Kohler converter powered ´Dreadnaut´, a giant
craft approximately 230 feet in diameter -- landed on Mars in mid-
January, 1946 after 8 months of heavy flight. He did not say what
became of this expedition, but he did state that the German
Illuminati had established a base on the moon and planted their
swastika flags there years before the Apollo program. Terziski
also stated that a ´secret´ joint American-Russian space program
-- behind-the-scenes of the public program -- had landed men on
the moon BEFORE the Apollo flights as well, and had discovered
the "ex-Nazi" base already in existence there.
One of the more startling claims made by Terziski in this inter-
view was that the German experiments in mind control, genetics,
and hybridization (between humans and animals) -- which were
apparently aided by the discovery and perfection of the microscope
in Germany, including a Teslan scaler-wave microscope which
helped the Germans to unlock the human genome -- were repeated
in ten times their intensity in the underground Nazi South Polar
colony or ´city´. This base-city, rumor has it, is known by it
inhabitants as the ´NEW BERLIN´ and contains a population of
over 2,000,000 people loyal to the Nazi philosophy. These include
so-called pure-bred ´Aryan S.S.´ who apparently utilize slave labor
to expand their underground empire. The genetic experiments in
this underground metropolis (as in the trilateral Dulce-Dreamland-
Luna facilities) is reportedly continuing unabated.
Terziski claims that German occultists gained entrance to
underground repositories below Tibet with the help of Ahrimanic
and Luciferian secret societies in that country, where they gained
access to ancient records from an early civilization which develop-
ed it´s own form of occult-technology. According to Vladimir, the
Nazi´s had made contact with ´half a dozen´ alien races, including
the malevolent reptilians, which may explain why they were so
successful in their technological pursuits. Could the U.S. govern-
ment, fearful of the Nazi Empire/Gray Empire alliance, have chosen
to negotiate with this powerful force rather than stand against it?
["if you can´t beat´em, join´em"]. If so, it may have been a tragic,
pathetic and cowardly decision not only for themselves but for
their and our posterity. Apparently the Germans-Nazis-Illuminati
had established a ´pact´ with the serpent races long years before
the American ´secret/conventional´ hybrid government had done so.
The South Polar base according to Vladimir Terziski is also
actively involved in space travel, and if the theories of W. A.
Harbinson and others are correct, they may in fact constitute the
´Aryan´ blonds who have been seen working with the grays and
reptilians in UFO scenarios in their attempts to abduct, implant
and program the minds of humans in an apparent long-term
agenda to conquer the MINDS of the nations, and therefore the
nations themselves. Failing to do so during World War II in an
overt manner, is Bavarian-Draconian alliance now attempting to
bring about a covert takeover of the planet from their South Polar
installation? Harbinson, the author of the fact-fiction book
´GENESIS´, is convinced that they are...
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Apparently the Germans-Nazis-Illuminati
had established a ´pact´ with the serpent races long years before
the American ´secret/conventional´ hybrid government had done so.

[link to www.meta-religion.com]

[link to www.meta-religion.com]

[link to www.parascope.com]

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[link to www.thirdworldtraveler.com]

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Operation Paperclip was the codename under which the US intelligence and military services extracted scientists from Germany, during and after the final stages of World War II. The project was originally called Operation Overcast, and is sometimes also known as Project Paperclip. [1]

Of particular interest were scientists specialising in aerodynamics and rocketry (such as those involved in the V-1 V-2 projects), chemical weapons, chemical reaction technology and medicine. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval; their service for Hitler´s Third Reich also disqualified them from officially obtaining visas.

The majority of the scientists, numbering almost 500, were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico, Fort Bliss, Texas and Huntsville, Alabama to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology. This in turn led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.

Much of the information surrounding Operation Paperclip is still classified.

Separate from Paperclip was an even-more-secret effort to capture German nuclear secrets, equipment and personnel (Operation Alsos). Another American project (TICOM) gathered German experts in cryptography.

The United States Bureau of Mines employed seven German synthetic fuel scientists in a Fischer-Tropsch chemical plant in Missouri Louisiana in 1946.


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Allen W. DullesAllen Welsh Dulles (April 23, 1893 – January 29, 1969) was the first civilian Director (1953-1961) of the Central Intelligence Agency and a member of the Warren Commission. Dulles was the younger brother of John Foster Dulles, Eisenhower´s Secretary of State and main United Fruit Company shareholder.

Dulles was active in the Office of Strategic Services in Berne, Switzerland during World War II. He worked on intelligence regarding German plans and activities. Dulles´s career was jump-started by the information provided by Fritz Kolbe, a German diplomat and a foe of the Nazis. Kolbe supplied secret documents regarding active German spies and plans regarding the Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter.

In 1953 Dulles became the first civilian director of the Central Intelligence Agency, which had been formed in 1947 as part of the National Security Act; earlier directors had been military officers. The Agency´s covert operations were an important part of the Eisenhower administration´s new Cold War national security policy known as the "New Look".

Under Dulles´s direction, the CIA established MK-Ultra, a top secret mind control research project which was managed by Sidney Gottlieb.

At Dulles´ request, President Eisenhower demanded that Senator McCarthy discontinue issuing subpoenas against the CIA. In March, McCarthy had initiated a series of investigations into potential communist subversion of the Agency. Although none of the investigations revealed any wrongdoing, the hearings were still potentially damaging, not only to the CIA´s reputation, but to the security of sensitive information as well. During the time, Dulles was personally overseeing Operation Mockingbird, a program which influenced American media companies.

Dulles went on to be successful with the CIA´s first attempts at removing foreign leaders by covert means. Notably, the elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh of Iran was deposed in 1953 (via Operation Ajax), and President Arbenz of Guatemala was removed in 1954.

During the Kennedy Administration, Dulles faced increasing criticism. The failed Bay of Pigs Invasion and several failed assassination plots utilizing CIA-recruited operatives from the Mafia and anti-Castro Cubans) directly against Fidel Castro undermined the CIA´s credibility, and pro-American but unpopular regimes in Iran and Guatemala were widely regarded as brutal and corrupt.

Dulles was fired from the CIA by Kennedy in 1961 over Operation Northwoods. Another cover CIA operation aimed at gaining popular support for a war against Cuba by framing Cuba for stage real or simulated attacks on American citizens.

Dulles published the book The Craft of Intelligence (ISBN 1592282970) in 1963.

On November 29, 1963 President Lyndon Johnson appointed Dulles as one of seven commissioners of the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of the U.S. President John F. Kennedy.

Despite his knowledge of the several assassination plots by the CIA against Castro, he is not documented to have mentioned these plots to any investigating authorities during the Warren Commission.

In 1969 Dulles died of influenza, complicated by pneumonia, at the age of 75. He was buried in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore, Maryland.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Dulles was fired from the CIA by Kennedy in 1961 over Operation Northwoods. Another cover CIA operation aimed at gaining popular support for a war against Cuba by framing Cuba for stage real or simulated attacks on American citizens.

Operation Northwoods
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Operation Northwoods was a document drafted in 1962 by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and presented to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara (and possibly President John F. Kennedy himself) on March 13, 1962. Long believed to be residing in the imagination of conspiracy theorists, the document was declassified in recent years by the Freedom of Information Act.

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3 See also
4 Further reading
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The document was drafted with the intent of getting public support for an invasion of Cuba. The Joint Chiefs of Staff argued that the US population would only support military intervention in Cuba in the event of provocative, aggressive action by the island nation against American soldiers, American civilians or Cuban refugees and Cubans in exile. The document frequently refers to staging fake attacks with fake victims, but in other cases does not specify whether the attacks should be fake or real, and for some recommended attacks explicitly notes that they could be real. Had Operation Northwoods been carried out, it would likely have required the coordinative efforts of the Central Intelligence Agency, which is mentioned several times.

Some of the recommendations of Operation Northwoods proposed by the Joint Chiefs were:

Using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba.
Start false rumors about Cuba by using clandestine radios.
Stage mock attacks, sabotages and riots and blame it on Cuban forces
Sink an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military base - reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American War - or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document refers to unmanned drones, fake funerals etc.)
"Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions."
Destroy a fake commercial aircraft supposedly full of "college students off on a holiday" (really an unmanned drone)
Stage a "terror campaign", including the "real or simulated" sinking of Cuban refugees:
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute [sic] to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized."
It has been reported that John F. Kennedy personally rejected the proposal, but no official record of this exists. What is known for certain is that Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara examined and rejected the proposal, and that the President removed General Lyman Lemnitzer as Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly afterward. The continuing press against Cuba by internal elements of the U.S. military and intelligence community (the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion, etc.) prompted President John F. Kennedy to attempt to rein in burgeoning hardline anti-Communist sentiment that was intent on proactive, aggressive action against Communism around the globe. After the Bay of Pigs disaster, John F. Kennedy fired then CIA director Allen W. Dulles, Deputy Director Charles P. Cabell and Deputy Director Richard Bissell and turned his attention towards Vietnam.

Kennedy also took steps to bring discipline to the CIA´s Cold War and paramilitary operations by drafting a National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) which called for the shift of Cold War operations to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and The Pentagon as well as a major change in the role of the CIA to exclusively deal in intelligence gathering.

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You will note that GWB has reconstituted the entire CIA/FBI intelligence community relationship after 911... toward the goals originally foreseen by Dulles. This is no surprise. Dulles was a close associate of Prescott Bush:

Dulles and Bush:

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[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

[link to www.tetrahedron.org]

The Bush´s are in league with the alien/fallen-angel invader Reptilians.
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How the Bush family made
its fortune from the Nazis

Posted by Robert Lederman
February 9, 2002

Note: This article´s author, John Loftus, is a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the Jews, both of which have extensive material on the Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection.

Copyright September 27, 2000
by Attorney John Loftus

The Dutch Connection

How a famous American family
made its fortune from the Nazis

For the Bush family, it is a lingering nightmare. For their Nazi clients, the Dutch connection was the mother of all money laundering schemes. From 1945 until 1949, one of the lengthiest and, it now appears, most futile interrogations of a Nazi war crimes suspect began in the American Zone of Occupied Germany. Multibillionaire steel magnate Fritz Thyssen-the man whose steel combine was the cold heart of the Nazi war machine-talked and talked and talked to a joint US-UK interrogation team. For four long years, successive teams of inquisitors tried to break Thyssen´s simple claim to possess neither foreign bank accounts nor interests in foreign corporations, no assets that might lead to the missing billions in assets of the Third Reich. The inquisitors failed utterly.

Why? Because what the wily Thyssen deposed was, in a sense, true. What the Allied investigators never understood was that they were not asking Thyssen the right question. Thyssen did not need any foreign bank accounts because his family secretly owned an entire chain of banks. He did not have to transfer his Nazi assets at the end of World War II, all he had to do was transfer the ownership documents - stocks, bonds, deeds and trusts--from his bank in Berlin through his bank in Holland to his American friends in New York City: Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker. Thyssen´s partners in crime were the father and father-in-law of a future President of the United States.

The allied investigators underestimated Thyssen´s reach, his connections, his motives, and his means. The web of financial entities Thyssen helped create in the 1920´s remained a mystery for the rest of the twentieth century, an almost perfectly hidden underground sewer pipeline for moving dirty money, money that bankrolled the post-war fortunes not only of the Thyssen industrial empire...but the Bush family as well. It was a secret Fritz Thyssen would take to his grave.

It was a secret that would lead former US intelligence agent William Gowen, now pushing 80, to the very doorstep of the Dutch royal family. The Gowens are no strangers to controversy or nobility. His father was one of President Roosevelt´s diplomatic emissaries to Pope Pius XII, leading a futile attempt to persuade the Vatican to denounce Hitler´s treatment of Jews. It was his son, William Gowen, who served in Rome after World War II as a Nazi hunter and investigator with the U.S. Army Counter Intelligence Corps. It was Agent Gowen who first discovered the secret Vatican Ratline for smuggling Nazis in 1949. It was also the same William Gowen who began to uncover the secret Dutch pipeline for smuggling Nazi money in 1999.

A half-century earlier, Fritz Thyssen was telling the allied investigators that he had no interest in foreign companies, that Hitler had turned on him and seized most of his property. His remaining assets were mostly in the Russian Occupied Zone of Germany (which he knew were a write-off anyway). His distant (and disliked) relatives in neutral nations like Holland were the actual owners of a substantial percentage of the remaining German industrial base. As innocent victims of the Third Reich, they were lobbying the allied occupation governments in Germany, demanding restitution of the property that had been seized from them by the Nazis.

Under the rules of the Allied occupation of Germany, all property owned by citizens of a neutral nation which had been seized by the Nazis had to be returned to the neutral citizens upon proper presentation of documents showing proof of ownership. Suddenly, all sorts of neutral parties, particularly in Holland, were claiming ownership of various pieces of the Thyssen empire. In his cell, Fritz Thyssen just smiled and waited to be released from prison while members of the Dutch royal family and the Dutch intelligence service reassembled his pre-war holdings for him.

The British and American interrogators may have gravely underestimated Thyssen but they nonetheless knew they were being lied to. Their suspicions focused on one Dutch Bank in particular, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, in Rotterdam. This bank did a lot of business with the Thyssens over the years. In 1923, as a favor to him, the Rotterdam bank loaned the money to build the very first Nazi party headquarters in Munich. But somehow the allied investigations kept going nowhere, the intelligence leads all seemed to dry up.

If the investigators realized that the US intelligence chief in postwar Germany, Allen Dulles, was also the Rotterdam bank´s lawyer, they might have asked some very interesting questions. They did not know that Thyssen was Dulles´ client as well. Nor did they ever realize that it was Allen Dulles´s other client, Baron Kurt Von Schroeder who was the Nazi trustee for the Thyssen companies which now claimed to be owned by the Dutch. The Rotterdam Bank was at the heart of Dulles´ cloaking scheme, and he guarded its secrets jealously.

Several decades after the war, investigative reporter Paul Manning, Edward R. Murrow´s colleague, stumbled across the Thyssen interrogations in the US National Archives. Manning intended to write a book about Nazi money laundering. Manning´s manuscript was a dagger at Allen Dulles´ throat: his book specifically mentioned the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart by name, albeit in passing. Dulles volunteered to help the unsuspecting Manning with his manuscript, and sent him on a wild goose chase, searching for Martin Bormann in South America.

Without knowing that he had been deliberately sidetracked, Manning wrote a forward to his book personally thanking Allen Dulles for his "assurance that I was "on the right track, and should keep going.´"Dulles sent Manning and his manuscript off into the swamps of obscurity. The same "search for Martin Bormann"scam was also used to successfully discredit Ladislas Farago, another American journalist probing too far into the laundering of Nazi money. American investigators had to be sent anywhere but Holland.

And so the Dutch connection remained unexplored until 1994 when I published the book "The Secret War Against the Jews."As a matter of historical curiosity, I mentioned that Fritz Thyssen (and indirectly, the Nazi Party) had obtained their early financing from Brown Brothers Harriman, and its affiliate, the Union Banking Corporation. Union Bank, in turn, was the Bush family´s holding company for a number of other entities, including the "Holland American Trading Company."

It was a matter of public record that the Bush holdings were seized by the US government after the Nazis overran Holland. In 1951, the Bush´s reclaimed Union Bank from the US Alien Property Custodian, along with their "neutral" Dutch assets. I did not realize it, but I had stumbled across a very large piece of the missing Dutch connection. Bush´s ownership of the Holland-American investment company was the missing link to Manning´s earlier research in the Thyssen investigative files. In 1981, Manning had written:

"Thyssen´s first step in a long dance of tax and currency frauds began [in the late 1930´s] when he disposed of his shares in the Dutch Hollandische-Amerikanische Investment Corporation to be credited to the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, N.V., Rotterdam, the bank founded in 1916 by August Thyssen Senior."

In this one obscure paragraph, in a little known book, Manning had unwittingly documented two intriguing points: 1) The Bush´s Union Bank had apparently bought the same corporate stock that the Thyssens were selling as part of their Nazi money laundering, and 2) the Rotterdam Bank, far from being a neutral Dutch institution, was founded by Fritz Thyssen´s father. In hindsight, Manning and I had uncovered different ends of the Dutch connection.

After reading the excerpt in my book about the Bush´s ownership of the Holland-American trading Company, retired US intelligence agent William Gowen began to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Mr. Gowen knew every c orner of Europe from his days as a diplomat´s son, an American intelligence agent, and a newspaperman. William Gowen deserves sole credit for uncovering the mystery of how the Nazi industrialists hid their money from the Allies at the end of World War II.

In 1999, Mr. Gowen traveled to Europe, at his own expense, to meet a former member of Dutch intelligence who had detailed inside information about the Rotterdam bank. The scrupulous Gowen took a written statement and then had his source read and correct it for error. Here, in summary form, is how the Nazis hid their money in America.

After World War I, August Thyssen had been badly burned by the loss of assets under the harsh terms of the Versailles treaty. He was determined that it would never happen again. One of his sons would join the Nazis; the other would be neutral. No matter who won the next war, the Thyssen family would survive with their industrial empire intact. Fritz Thyssen joined the Nazis in 1923; his younger brother married into Hungarian nobility and changed his name to Baron Thyssen-Bornemisza. The Baron later claimed Hungarian as well as Dutch citizenship. In public, he pretended to detest his Nazi brother, but in private they met at secret board meetings in Germany to coordinate their operations. If one brother were threatened with loss of property, he would transfer his holdings to the other.

To aid his sons in their shell game, August Thyssen had established three different banks during the 1920´s -- The August Thyssen Bank in Berlin, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart in Rotterdam, and the Union Banking Corporation in New York City. To protect their corporate holdings, all the brothers had to do was move the corporate paperwork from one bank to the other. This they did with some regularity. When Fritz Thyssen "sold" the Holland-American Trading Company for a tax loss, the Union Banking Corporation in New York bought the stock. Similarly, the Bush family invested the disguised Nazi profits in American steel and manufacturing corporations that became part of the secret Thyssen empire.

When the Nazis invaded Holland in May 1940, they investigated the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart in Rotterdam. Fritz Thyssen was suspected by Hitler´s auditors of being a tax fraud and of illegally transferring his wealth outside the Third Reich. The Nazi auditors were right: Thyssen felt that Hitler´s economic policies would dilute his wealth through ruinous war inflation. He had been smuggling his war profits out through Holland. But the Rotterdam vaults were empty of clues to where the money had gone. The Nazis did not know that all of the documents evidencing secret Thyssen ownership had been quietly shipped back to the August Thyssen Bank in Berlin, under the friendly supervision of Baron Kurt Von Schroeder. Thyssen spent the rest of the war under VIP house arrest. He had fooled Hitler, hidden his immense profits, and now it was time to fool the Americans with same shell game.

As soon as Berlin fell to the allies, it was time to ship the documents back to Rotterdam so that the "neutral" bank could claim ownership under the friendly supervision of Allen Dulles, who, as the OSS intelligence chief in 1945 Berlin, was well placed to handle any troublesome investigations. Unfortunately, the August Thyssen Bank had been bombed during the war, and the documents were buried in the underground vaults beneath the rubble. Worse, the vaults lay in the Soviet Zone of Berlin.

According to Gowen´s source, Prince Bernhard commanded a unit of Dutch intelligence, which dug up the incriminating corporate papers in 1945 and brought them back to the "neutral" bank in Rotterdam. The pretext was that the Nazis had stolen the crown jewels of his wife, Princess Juliana, and the Russians gave the Dutch permission to dig up the vault and retrieve them. Operation Juliana was a Dutch fraud on the Allies who searched high and low for the missing pieces of the Thyssen fortune.

In 1945, the former Dutch manager of the Rotterdam bank resumed control only to discover that he was sitting on a huge pile of hidden Nazi assets. In 1947, the manager threatened to inform Dutch authorities, and was immediately fired by the Thyssens. The somewhat naive bank manager then fled to New York City where he intended to talk to Union Bank director Prescott Bush. As Gowen´s Dutch source recalled, the manager intended "to reveal [to Prescott Bush] the truth about Baron Heinrich and the Rotterdam Bank, [in order that] some or all of the Thyssen interests in the Thyssen Group might be seized and confiscated as German enemy property. "The manager´s body was found in New York two weeks later.

Similarly, in 1996 a Dutch journalist Eddy Roever went to London to interview the Baron, who was neighbors with Margaret Thatcher. Roever´s body was discovered two days later. Perhaps, Gowen remarked dryly, it was only a coincidence that both healthy men had died of heart attacks immediately after trying to uncover the truth about the Thyssens.

Neither Gowen nor his Dutch source knew about the corroborating evidence in the Alien Property Custodian archives or in the OMGUS archives. Together, the two separate sets of US files overlap each other and directly corroborate Gowen´s source. The first set of archives confirms absolutely that the Union Banking Corporation in New York was owned by the Rotterdam Bank. The second set (quoted by Manning) confirms that the Rotterdam Bank in turn was owned by the Thyssens.

It is not surprising that these two American agencies never shared their Thyssen files. As the noted historian Burton Hersh documented:

"The Alien Property Custodian, Leo Crowley, was on the payroll of the New York J. Henry Schroeder Bank where Foster and Allen Dulles both sat as board members. Foster arranged an appointment for himself as special legal counsel for the Alien Property Custodian while simultaneously representing [German] interests against the custodian."

No wonder Allen Dulles had sent Paul Manning on a wild goose chase to South America. He was very close to uncovering the fact that the Bush´s bank in New York City was secretly owned by the Nazis, before during and after WWII. Once Thyssen ownership of the Union Banking Corporation is proven, it makes out a prima facie case of treason against the Dulles and Bush families for giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.


The first key fact to be proven in any criminal case is that the Thyssen family secretly owned the Bush´s Bank. Apart from Gowen´s source, and the twin American files, a third set of corroboration comes from the Thyssen family themselves. In 1979, the present Baron Thyssen-Bornemisza (Fritz Thyssen´s nephew) prepared a written family history to be shared with his top management. A copy of this thirty-page tome entitled "The History of the Thyssen Family and Their Activities"was provided by Gowen´s source. It contains the following Thyssen admissions:

"Thus, at the beginning of World War II the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart had become the holding of my father´s companies - a Dutch firm whose only shareholder was a Hungarian citizen..Prior to 1929, it held the shares of .the August Thyssen Bank, and also American subsidiaries and the Union Banking Corporation, New York.The shares of all the affiliates were [in 1945] with the August Thyssen Bank in the East Sector of Berlin, from where I was able to have them transferred into the West at the last moment"

"After the war the Dutch government ordered an investigation into the status of the holding company and, pending the result, appointed a Dutch former general manager of my father who turned against our family.. In that same year, 1947, I returned to Germany for the first time after the war, disguised as a Dutch driver in military uniform, to establish contact with our German directors"

"The situation of the Group gradually began to be resolved but it was not until 1955 that the German companies were freed from Allied control and subsequently disentangled. Fortunately, the companies in the group suffered little from dismantling. At last we were in a position to concentrate on purely economic problems -- the reconstruction and extension of the companies and the expansion of the organization."

"The banking department of the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, which also functioned as the Group´s holding company, merged in 1970 with Nederlandse Credietbank N.V. which increased its capital. The Group received 25 percent.The Chase Manhattan Bank holds 31%. The name Thyssen-Bornemisza Group was selected for the new holding company."

Thus the twin US Archives, Gowen´s Dutch source, and the Thyssen family history all independently confirm that President Bush´s father and grandfather served on the board of a bank that was secretly owned by the leading Nazi industrialists. The Bush connection to these American institutions is a matter of public record. What no one knew, until Gowen´s brilliant research opened the door, was that the Thyssens were the secret employers of the Bush family.

But what did the Bush family know about their Nazi connection and when did they know it? As senior managers of Brown Brothers Harriman, they had to have known that their American clients, such as the Rockefellers, were investing heavily in German corporations, including Thyssen´s giant Vereinigte Stahlwerke. As noted historian Christopher Simpson repeatedly documents, it is a matter of public record that Brown Brother´s investments in Nazi Germany took place under the Bush family stewardship.

When war broke out was Prescott Bush stricken with a case of Waldheimers disease, a sudden amnesia about his Nazi past? Or did he really believe that our friendly Dutch allies owned the Union Banking Corporation and its parent bank in Rotterdam? It should be recalled that in January 1937, he hired Allen Dulles to "cloak" his accounts. But cloak from whom? Did he expect that happy little Holland was going to declare war on America? The cloaking operation only makes sense in anticipation of a possible war with Nazi Germany. If Union Bank was not the conduit for laundering the Rockefeller´s Nazi investments back to America, then how could the Rockefeller-controlled Chase Manhattan Bank end up owning 31% of the Thyssen group after the war?

It should be noted that the Thyssen group (TBG) is now the largest industrial conglomerate in Germany, and with a net worth of more than $50 billion dollars, one of the wealthiest corporations in the world. TBG is so rich it even bought out the Krupp family, famous arms makers for Hitler, leaving the Thyssens as the undisputed champion survivors of the Third Reich. Where did the Thyssens get the start-up money to rebuild their empire with such speed after World War II?

The enormous sums of money deposited into the Union Bank prior to 1942 is the best evidence that Prescott Bush knowingly served as a money launderer for the Nazis. Remember that Union Banks´ books and accounts were frozen by the U.S. Alien Property Custodian in 1942 and not released back to the Bush family until 1951. At that time, Union Bank shares representing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of industrial stocks and bonds were unblocked for distribution. Did the Bush family really believe that such enormous sums came from Dutch enterprises? One could sell tulip bulbs and wooden shoes for centuries and not achieve those sums. A fortune this size could only have come from the Thyssen profits made from rearming the Third Reich, and then hidden, first from the Nazi tax auditors, and then from the Allies.

The Bushes knew perfectly well that Brown Brothers was the American money channel into Nazi Germany, and that Union Bank was the secret pipeline to bring the Nazi money back to America from Holland. The Bushes had to have known how the secret money circuit worked because they were on the board of directors in both directions: Brown Brothers out, Union Bank in.

Moreover, the size of their compensation is commensurate with their risk as Nazi money launderers. In 1951, Prescott Bush and his father in law each received one share of Union Bank stock, worth $750,000 each. One and a half million dollars was a lot of money in 1951. But then, from the Thyssen point of view, buying the Bushes was the best bargain of the war.

The bottom line is harsh: It is bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Thyssen to give Hitler his start in the 1920´s, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason. The Bush´s bank helped the Thyssens make the Nazi steel that killed allied soldiers. As bad as financing the Nazi war machine may seem, aiding and abetting the Holocaust was worse. Thyssen´s coal mines used Jewish slaves as if they were disposable chemicals. There are six million skeletons in the Thyssen family closet, and a myriad of criminal and historical questions to be answered about the Bush family´s complicity.

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For almost 5000 years, the pyramids have asked more questions than they have answered. Many books have been written which have uncovered incredible facts concerning their construction and their astronomical qualities. We have learned that the Pyramids of Giza are aligned with certain star constellations. It has also been discovered that other similar structures in Mexico and Cambodia also have astronomical significance.

The Great Pyramid of Giza consists of circa 2.3 million stone blocks weighing around 2.5 tons each. Some of the blocks weigh up to 50 tons. Yet despite the vast amount of blocks used, and the incredible weights involved, the mathematical accuracy of the layout of the building is breathtaking. Other such puzzling buildings scattered around the world pose the same questions.

Who built them? How did they acquire such mathematical and astronomical knowledge? And what advanced technology did they use in the construction?

To simply say "The Egyptians built them," is not a satisfactory answer. For if man began at the stone age, progressed to the bronze and then to the iron age, then we have the oldest pyramids popping up somewhere between the stone age and the bronze age. This is akin to saying that at some point in time past, man invented the wheel. Sometime later, another made a cart. But in between the wheel and the cart we find a brand new Mercedes! This is a realistic comparison when considering the construction of the pyramids.

Despite all the recent books written about them, the pyramids remain a conundrum wrapped in an enigma and surrounded by a paradox. Yes, these authors have discovered and charted their astronomical significance. They have unearthed their geometric alignments and mathematical accuracies. And the conclusion they have reached is that some lost civilization or race of advanced people were responsible for these mammoth edifices.

But all these writers have one thing in common. They have failed to inform us as to who these people were and from whence they derived their knowledge and skills. When one or two of these esteemed authors do hazard a guess as to who these mystery architects and builders may have been, their speculations amount to little more than sand castles built on the tidal reach of eternity.

It is my contention that the evidence advanced in this volume will provide satisfactory answers to all these questions.

Buried in ancient Hebrew texts, undiscovered and largely ignored by scholars, lies a wealth of information about a mysterious cabal and little known race of people called the Nephilim.

In the first part of this volume, I have provided a detailed study of this unknown race showing -

Who they were
Where they came from
Where they acquired their mathematical and astronomical knowledge
How they possessed the strength to construct these huge buildings
Why they chose the pyramid shape
Why they align with celestial bodies
Where they went.
In the second part of this book, I have shown how these same age old pyramids portend a future event. Analyzing again the ancient texts, I will provide an examination of the prophecies of the Book of Revelation and of the signs we are told would precede these imminent happenings. In doing so we shall garner the necessary details and information whereby the reader will be able to audition the future.

Finally, having traveled back to an epoch dating to before our world began, and having journeyed forward to espy what lies ahead, this volume will culminate and climax in a phenomenon never before proposed or explored -The Pyramid of The Apocalypse.

You are now invited on a excursion through time and space that may change your perceptions on life forever.

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Chronology, causes and progression of the Messinian salinity crisis


* Paleomagnetic Laboratory Fort Hoofddijk, Utrecht University, Budapestlaan 17, 3584 CD Utrecht, The Netherlands
† Department of Geology, Utrecht University, Budapestlaan 4, 3584 CD Utrecht, The Netherlands
‡ Dipartimento di Scienze della Terra, Università G. D´Annunzio, Campus Universitario, Via dei Vestini 31, 66013 Chieti Scalo, Italy
§ Department de Geologia, Facultad de Ciencias, Universidad de Salamanca, 37008 93106, Salamanca, Spain
Department of Geological Sciences, University of California, Santa Barbara, California 93106, USA

Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to W.K. (e-mail: krijgsma@geo.uu.nl).

The Messinian salinity crisis is widely regarded as one of the most dramatic episodes of oceanic change of the past 20 or so million years (refs 1–3). Earliest explanations were that extremely thick evaporites were deposited in a deep and desiccated Mediterranean basin that had been repeatedly isolated from the Atlantic Ocean,, but elucidation of the causes of the isolation — whether driven largely by glacio-eustatic or tectonic processes — have been hampered by the absence of an accurate time frame. Here we present an astronomically calibrated chronology for the Mediterranean Messinian age based on an integrated high-resolution stratigraphy and ´tuning´ of sedimentary cycle patterns to variations in the Earth´s orbital parameters. We show that the onset of the Messinian salinity crisis is synchronous over the entire Mediterranean basin, dated at 5.96 0.02 million years ago. Isolation from the Atlantic Ocean was established between 5.59 and 5.33 million years ago, causing a large fall in Mediterranean water level followed by erosion (5.59–5.50 million years ago) and deposition (5.50–5.33 million years ago) of non-marine sediments in a large ´Lago Mare´ (Lake Sea) basin. Cyclic evaporite deposition is almost entirely related to circum-Mediterranean climate changes driven by changes in the Earth´s precession, and not to obliquity-induced glacio-eustatic sea-level changes. We argue in favour of a dominantly tectonic origin for the Messinian salinity crisis, although its exact timing may well have been controlled by the 400-kyr component of the Earth´s eccentricity cycle.

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[link to earth.leeds.ac.uk]


The Strait of Gibraltar opened up and flooded the entire Mediterranean basin to a depth of 2 kilometers...

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"The isolated sea
was then thought to have dried out, only filling when the world sea-level rose again during
global warming at the start of Pliocene times. Rough calculations estimate that with no river
input an isolated Mediterranean would evaporate in a few tens of thousands of years, given
the arid climates that characterise glacial maximums. Refilling by the Atlantic pouring back in
through a breached Gates of Gibraltar might take a little longer."

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Pliocene era began:

[link to www-odp.tamu.edu]

[link to eprints.ouls.ox.ac.uk]

"The Pliocene (5.4 - 2.4 million years ago) is the uppermost subdivision of the long Tertiary period which began 64 million years ago; it represents the final stages of a global cooling trend that led up to the Quaternary ice ages.

Generally, the Pliocene world was rather warmer than at present. The ancient distribution of warm-climate ocean plankton, and of animal and plant fossils on the land, shows that mean annual temperatures in the mid-latitudes were often several degrees higher. The greatest warming seems to have been in the Arctic and cool temperate latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere, where temperatures were often warm enough to allow species of of animals and plants to exist hundreds of kilometres north of the ranges of their nearest present-day relatives. Because there was less ice volume near the poles, sea levels may have been as much as 30m higher than at present during the warmest intervals. The peak phases of warmth during the Pliocene were mostly during the interval between 3 and 4 million years ago (the mid-Pliocene), although almost all of the Pliocene was warmer than today´s world.

The causes of the generally warmer climates of the Pliocene are something of a mystery. The warmth may have been related to changes in ocean circulation patterns, perhaps combined with higher concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, as this site by M. Chandler explains."

[link to www.esd.ornl.gov]

So... when ice ages occur, the Straits of Gilbratar cut off the influx of water to the Mediterranean and the Mediterranean dries up to become a salt flat...

The last glaciation ended about 11,000 years ago at which time the world´s oceans raised some 300 feet. It is reasonable to conclude that 11,000 years ago (plus/minus) that the Mediterranean basin was a sandy salty desert...

It is also reasonable to conclude there were humans habitating in the sandy salty desert... perhaps even cities of humans in the desert. Given there are monolithic structures throughout Europe and Egypt as well as in the Mediterranean coasts, it is reasonable to conclude there are monolithic structures currently under the ocean in the Mediterranean basin. It is also reasonable to conclude that the last habitation of those cities/monoliths was 11,000 years ago.

Evidence for monoliths in the Mediteranean Sea:

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[link to www.sojourn.com.my]

[link to www.atlantisquest.com]

[link to www.mysteriousworld.com]

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The name comes from the Arabic name of "Jebel Tariq" meaning Tariq´s mountain. It refers to the Berber Muslim general Tariq ibn-Ziyad who conquered Spain in 711.

On the northern side is Spain and Gibraltar, on the southern side Morocco and Ceuta (a Spanish exclave in North Africa). Its boundaries were known to antiquity as the Pillars of Hercules. There are some small islands, like the disputed Isla Perejil, that is claimed by Spain and Morocco.
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One of the most striking historic names in Northern Syria is Kûl´at Kadmûs, about twelve
hours south-east of Ladakiyeh, probably the former home of Cadmus, who first brought letters
into Greece.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Cadmus Sowing the Dragon´s teeth, by Maxfield Parrish, 1908Cadmus, or Kadmos (Greek: &#922;&#940;&#948;&#956;&#959;&#962;), in Greek mythology, was the son of the king of Phoenicia and brother of Europa.

His father is either Agenor or Phoenix son of Agenor. See Agenor and Phoenix.

After his sister had been carried off by Zeus, he was sent out to find her. Unsuccessful in his search, he came in the course of his wanderings to Delphi, where he consulted the oracle. He was ordered to give up his quest and follow a cow which would meet him, and to build a town on the spot where she should lie down exhausted.

The cow was given to Cadmus by Pelagon, King of Phocis, and it guided him to Boeotia, where he founded the city of Thebes. Robert Graves (The Greek Myths) suggested that the cow was actually turned loose within a moderately confined space, and that where she lay down, a temple to the moon-goddess (Selene) was erected: "A cow´s strategic and commercial sensibilities are not well developed," Graves remarked.

Intending to sacrifice the cow to Athena, Cadmus sent some of his companions to the nearby Castalian Spring, for water. They were slain by the spring´s guardian water-dragon (compare the Lernaean Hydra), which was in turn destroyed by Cadmus, the duty of a culture hero of the new order.

By the instructions of Athena he sowed its teeth in the ground, from which there sprang a race of fierce armed men, called Spartes ("sown"). By throwing a stone among them Cadmus caused them to fall upon each other till only five survived, who assisted him to build the Cadmeia or citadel of Thebes and became the founders of the noblest families of that city.

Cadmus, however, because the dragon was sacred to Ares, had to do penance for eight years by serving that god. At the expiration of this period the gods gave him as wife Harmonia, daughter of Ares and Aphrodite, by whom he had a son Polydorus, and four daughters, Ino, Autonoe, Agave and Semele.

At the wedding all the gods were present; Harmonia received as bridal gifts a peplos worked by Athena and a necklace made by Hephaestus. Notwithstanding the divinely ordained nature of his marriage and his kingdom, Cadmus lived to regret both: his family was overtaken by grievous misfortunes and his city by civil unrest. Cadmus finally abdicated in favor of his son, and retired with Harmonia to Illyria, whose inhabitants proclaimed him their king.

Nevertheless, Cadmus was deeply troubled by the ill-fortune which clung to him as a result of his having killed the sacred dragon, and one day remarked that if the gods were so enamored of the life of a serpent he might as well wish that life for himself. Immediately he began to grow scales and change in form. Harmonia, seeing the transformation, immediately begged the gods to share her husband´s fate, and she did.

In another variation of the story, the bodies of Cadmus and his wife were changed after their deaths; the serpents watched their tomb while their souls were translated to the Elysian fields.

As if to convince any that doubt whether myth has kept its power, modern Greeks contend that there is little doubt that Cadmus was originally a Boeotian, that is, a Greek hero. In later times the story of a Phoenician immigrant of that name became current, to whom was ascribed the introduction of the alphabet, the invention of agriculture and working in bronze and of civilization generally. But the name itself is Greek rather than Phoenician; and the fact that Hermes was worshipped in Samothrace under the name of Cadmus or Cadmilus seems to show that the Theban Cadmus was originally an ancestral Theban hero corresponding to the Samothracian. The name may mean "order," and be used to characterize one who introduces order and civilization.

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You note the water-dragon in the above legend. This is equivalent to the Nagas... water-dragons. You note that Cadmus is equivalent to Hermes.

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The ancient city, the ruins of which are called Palaeopoli ("old city"), was situated on the north coast. Considerable remains still exist of the ancient walls, which were built in massive Cyclopean style, as well as of the Sanctuary of the Great Gods, where mysterious rites took place which were open to both slaves and free people (in contrast to the Eleusinian Mysteries).

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We speak first of Those whom the Samothracians call Great Gods, and whom the Books of the Augurs call the Mighty Gods, for they did not dare to mention Their terrible names. Indeed, their awful-sounding names were kept secret for untold ages, until they were revealed by Mnaseas: Axieros, Axiokersa, Axiokersos and Kasmilos (or Kadmilos). Isopsephia gives the numbers of Their names: 986, 1007, 1276, 571 (or 375). Some say the first three are a Holy Triad, Father, Mother and Daughter; others say They are two Gods [Axieros, Axiokersos] attendant on a Goddess [Axiokersa]. The fourth is the Messenger, who completes the Quaternity; He carries the unmentionable Basket, into which only Initiates may peer and retain their sanity. Servius says Kasmilos´ name is Etruscan, others say it is Hittite.
ij. Nigidius Figulus, who knew the gorey secrets of Etruscan soothsaying and magic, swore that it was sacrilege to reveal Their unhallowed story, but some say the Great Ones came to earth in a flaming star, which shattered the rocks when it crashed into the island of Samothrace; there the Great Gods made Their home. They are Lords of the Terrifying Tempest. Their dance is the bedlam of spears rattled against oxhide shields.

iij. Those who are initiated into the Mysteries of the Great Gods are granted the Purple Sash and the Magnetic Iron Ring. In this way Initiates stay in contact with the Great Gods. Artemidorus said that these same Mysteries are held on an island near Britain.

iv. The Romans were under the protection of the Great Gods, for the Romans were descended from Aeneas, who came from Troy, and the Trojans were descended from Dardanos, who came from Samothrace. Dardanos brought sacred images of the Great Ones with him, and these same images were taken to Rome by Aeneas; this was the origin of the Roman Great Gods, the Penates, who protected the state for more than one thousand years.

v. The Samothracian priests who celebrated the frenzied rites of the Great Ones were called Sai, but Servius said that when their cult was brought to Rome, the maniacal dancers for the Great Gods were named Salii. These, twice twelve in number, donned ancient armor and the peaked Phrygian cap. On their left arms they held the mysterious figure-of-eight shields that had fallen from heaven; their right hand held the sacred staff, which they beat against their shields, performing inscrutable ritual gestures. They sang the Carmen Saliare, the incomprehensible syncopations of which were unintelligible to even the earliest Romans; all but a few maddening fragments of these unholy verses have been consigned to the flames.

vi. Some say the Kabeiroi are the same as the Samothracian Great Gods, but They are Chthonian Crab-Beings said to be descended from Hephaistos, who was raised in an undersea grotto, and from Kabeiro, who was a daughter of Proteus. Some say They are Demons who serve Rhea. The principal Kabeiroi are Kabeiros and Kabeiria, from whom came the three male Kabeiroi, who with Kabeiros are the Astral Semina (Star Seeds), and three female Kabeirides, who with Kabeiria are the Elemental Semina (Material Seeds); together They continually recreate the world. Philo Byblius, who called Them the Children of Sudek (or Saduk), says They were the first scribes of Thoth, and recorded the dark secrets He divulged to Them.

vij. Their unutterable names are dark and potent; the youngest He-demon was named Esmounos (Isopsephia = 1035). These Crabs [Karkinoi] walk cockeyed like their father, and like Him live in the sea as well as on land; their claws are like tongs for working metal [karkinoi].

[link to www.cs.utk.edu]

Cadmus, in Greek legend, son of Agenor and founder of Thebes. Misfortune followed his family because he killed the sacred dragon that guarded the spring of Ares. Athena told him to sow the dragon´s teeth, and from these sprang the Sparti [sown men], ancestors of the noble families of Thebes. Cadmus married Harmonia, daughter of Ares and Aphrodite. At their wedding he presented her with a sacred robe and necklace, made by Hephaestus, which later brought misfortune to their possessors (see Amphiaraüs; Alcmaeon). They had four daughters—Ino, Semele, Autonoe, and Agave. In their old age Cadmus and Harmonia were turned into serpents by Zeus and sent to live in the Elysian fields.


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FROM the very day when the first mystic found the means of communication between this world and the worlds of the invisible host, between the sphere of matter and that of pure spirit, he concluded that to abandon this mysterious science to the profanation of the rabble was to lose it.

The Kabiri or the Kabirim [the name is Phoenician] were Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, and were held in the highest veneration at Thebes, in Lemnos, Phrygia, Macedonia, and especially at Samothrace. They were mystery gods, no profane having the right to name or speak of them. Herodotus makes of them Fire-gods and points to Vulcan as their father. The Kabiri presided over the Mysteries, and their real number has never been revealed, their occult meaning being very sacred.

The Kabiri were also Assyrian gods. In Hebrew the name means "the mighty ones," Gibborim. In Samothrace, an island famous and renowned for its Mysteries all over the world -- perhaps the oldest ever established in our present race -- they were the Samothraces. The latter are considered identical with the Kabiri, Dioscuri and Corybantes. The names of the Samothraces were mystical, denoting Pluto, Ceres or Proserpine, Bacchus and Æsculapius, or Hermes. At one time all the deities connected with fire, whether they were divine, infernal or volcanic, were called Kabirian. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

Those who know anything of the Samothracian mysteries will remember that the generic name of the Kabiri was the "Holy Fires," which created on seven localities of the island of Electria (or Samothrace) the "Kabir born of the Holy Lemnos" (the island sacred to Vulcan). According to Pindar, this Kabir, whose name was Adamas, was, in the traditions of Lemnos, the type of the primitive man born from the bosom of the Earth. He was the archetype of the first males in the order of generation, and was one of the seven autochthonous ancestors or progenitors of mankind.

A Mystery, imparted to but very few initiates, was enacted once every seven years during the Mysteries, and the records of it are found self-imprinted on the leaves of the Thibetan sacred tree, the mysterious Kounboum, in the Lamasery of the holy adepts. In the shoreless ocean of space radiates the central, spiritual, and invisible sun. The universe is his body, spirit, and soul; and after this ideal model are framed all "things." These three emanations are the three lives, the three degrees of the gnostic Pleroma, the three "Kabalistic Faces," for the ANCIENT of the ancient, the holy of the aged, the great En-Soph, "has a form and then he has no form." The invisible "assumed a form when he called the universe into existence," says the Sohar, the Book of Splendor. The first light is His Soul, the Infinite, Boundless, and Immortal breath; under the efflux of which the universe heaves its mighty bosom, infusing intelligent life throughout creation. The second emanation condenses cometary matter and produces form within the cosmic circle; sets the countless worlds floating in the electric space, and infuses the unintelligent, blind life-principle into every form. The third produces the whole universe of physical matter; and as it keeps gradually receding from the Central Divine Light its brightness wanes and it becomes DARKNESS and the BAD -- pure matter, the "gross purgations of the celestial fire" of the Hermetists.

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Thus we may fairly conclude that, like the Samothracian legend of a great flood caused by the bursting of the Black Sea and its consequent union with the Mediterranean, the Cashmeer legend furnishes no evidence of human tradition stretching back into the mists of geological time, but is simply the shrewd guess of intelligent observers, who used their wits to supplement the evidence of their eyes. However, it is to be observed that the Cashmeer story hardly falls under the head of flood legends, since it recounts the desiccation rather than the inundation of a mountain basin. No doubt if the event really happened as it is said to have done, it must have caused a tremendous flood in the lowlands beyond the valley ; but as the disastrous consequences can only have concerned other people, the Cashmeerians naturally say nothing about it.

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** Faber and Bishop Cumberland would make them all the later pagan personifications, as the former writer has it, of "the Noetic Ark, and no other than the Patriarch (Noah) and his family" (!) See his "Kabiri," Vol. I., 136; because, we are told, "after the Deluge in commemoration of the event, the pious Noachidae had established a religious festival, which was, later on, corrupted by their impious descendants; demons or hero-gods; and at length unblushing obscenity usurped the name and garb of religion" (Vol. I., p. 10.). Now this is indeed putting an extinguisher upon the human reasoning powers, not only of antiquity, but even of our present generations. Reverse the statement, and explain after the words "Noah and his family" that what is meant by that patriarch and family is simply the Jewish version of a Samothracian mystery, of Saturn, or Kronos-Sadic and his Sons, and then we may say Amen.

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(a) This verse (47) relates to the Fifth Race. History does not begin with it, but living and ever-recurring tradition does. History -- or what is called history -- does not go further back than the fantastic origins of our fifth sub-race, a "few thousands" of years. It is the sub-divisions of this first sub-race of the Fifth Root-Race which are referred to in the sentence, "Some yellow, some brown and black, and some red, remained." The "moon coloured" (i.e., the First and the Second Races) were gone for ever -- ay, without leaving any traces whatever; and that, so far back as the third "Deluge" of the Third Lemurian race, that "Great Dragon," whose tail sweeps whole nations out of existence in the twinkling of an eye. And this is the true meaning of the Verse in the COMMENTARY which says:

"The GREAT DRAGON has respect but for the ´SERPENTS´ of WISDOM, the Serpents whose holes are now under the triangular stones," i.e., "the Pyramids, at the four corners of the world."

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PINDAR The Lizard King:

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Nagkon Wat (Nakhon Wat) An imposing temple -- situated about five miles south of Nakhon or Ankhor, the ancient capital of Kampuchea (Cambodia) -- composed of three concentric rectangular enclosures, each rising above the other. "After the Pyramids this is the most occult edifice in the whole world. . . . entirely built of stone, the roof included, . . . the stones fitting so closely that the joints are even now hardly discernible" (TG 223).

Native historians attribute the foundation of the temple to the Prince of Roma, a legendary hero, while European scholars place it in the 13th century under Buddhist influence. This does not account for the preponderating scenes from ancient Hindu mythology, for the figures sculptured in the Egyptian manner (the side turned toward the front), for the man-fish deity (similar to Dagon of ancient Babylon) sculptured several times on the walls, or for the kabeirian gods of Samothrace, with their parent Vulcan. Though the Kabiri were once universally worshiped as the most ancient of the Asiatic mystery-gods, this worship was abandoned 200 years BC, and the Samothracian Mysteries had been completely altered by that time (IU 1:566).

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THEOSOPHY, Vol. 52, No. 2, December, 1963 (Pages 43-50; Size: 22K) THE TIMELESS KABIRI(1)

FROM the very day when the first mystic found the means of communication between this world and the worlds of the invisible host, between the sphere of matter and that of pure spirit, he concluded that to abandon this mysterious science to the profanation of the rabble was to lose it.

The Kabiri or the Kabirim [the name is Phoenician] were Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, and were held in the highest veneration at Thebes, in Lemnos, Phrygia, Macedonia, and especially at Samothrace. They were mystery gods, no profane having the right to name or speak of them. Herodotus makes of them Fire-gods and points to Vulcan as their father. The Kabiri presided over the Mysteries, and their real number has never been revealed, their occult meaning being very sacred.

The Kabiri were also Assyrian gods. In Hebrew the name means "the mighty ones," Gibborim. In Samothrace, an island famous and renowned for its Mysteries all over the world -- perhaps the oldest ever established in our present race -- they were the Samothraces. The latter are considered identical with the Kabiri, Dioscuri and Corybantes. The names of the Samothraces were mystical, denoting Pluto, Ceres or Proserpine, Bacchus and Æsculapius, or Hermes. At one time all the deities connected with fire, whether they were divine, infernal or volcanic, were called Kabirian. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

Those who know anything of the Samothracian mysteries will remember that the generic name of the Kabiri was the "Holy Fires," which created on seven localities of the island of Electria (or Samothrace) the "Kabir born of the Holy Lemnos" (the island sacred to Vulcan). According to Pindar, this Kabir, whose name was Adamas, was, in the traditions of Lemnos, the type of the primitive man born from the bosom of the Earth. He was the archetype of the first males in the order of generation, and was one of the seven autochthonous ancestors or progenitors of mankind.

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The Kabiri were also Assyrian gods. In Hebrew the name means "the mighty ones," Gibborim.

The Gibborim were the giants... the children of the fallen angels mating with human women.


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The Kabiri or the Kabirim [the name is Phoenician] were Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, and were held in the highest veneration at Thebes, in the Lemnos, Phrygia, Macedonia, and especially at Samothrace. They were mystery gods, no profane having the right to name or speak of them. Herodotus makes of them Fire-gods and points to Vulcan as their father. The Kabiri presided over the Mysteries, and their real number has never been revealed, their occult meaning being very sacred.

The Kabirim, the "mighty ones," are identical with our primeval Dhyan-Chohans, with the incorporeal and corporeal Pitris, and with all the rulers and instructors of the primeval races, which are referred to as the Gods and Kings of the divine Dynasties. It matters little whether it is Isis, or Ceres -- the "Kabira" -- or again the Kabiri. Every nation has either the seven and ten Rishi-Manus and Prajapatis; or the ten and seven Sephiroth, etc., etc. One and all have been derived from the primitive Dhyan-Chohans of the Esoteric doctrine, or the "Builders" of the Stanzas. From Manu, Thot-Hermes, Oannes Dagon, and Edris-Enoch, down to Plato and Panadores, all tell us of seven divine Dynasties, of seven Lemurian and seven Atlantean divisions of the earth; of the seven primitive and dual gods who descend from their celestial abode and reign on Earth, teaching mankind Astronomy, Architecture, and all the other sciences that have come down to us.

These Beings appear first as "gods" and Creators; then they merge in nascent man, to finally emerge as "divine-Kings and Rulers." But this fact has been gradually forgotten. It is the Kabiri who are credited with having revealed, by producing corn or wheat, the great boon of agriculture. What Isis-Osiris the once living Kabiria has done in Egypt, that Ceres is said to have done in Sicily; they all belong to one class. To them, the Kabiri or Titans, is ascribed the invention of letters (the Devangari, or the alphabet and language of the gods), of laws and legislature, of architecture, as of the various modes of magic, so-called; and of the medical use of plants. Hermes, Orpheus, Cadmus, Asclepius, all those demi-gods and heroes to whom is ascribed the revelation of sciences to men.

The Kabiri were also Assyrian gods. In Hebrew the name means "the mighty ones," Gibborim. In Samothrace, an island famous and renowned for its Mysteries all over the world -- perhaps the oldest ever established in our present race -- they are the Samothraces. The names of the Samothraces were mystical, and at one time all the deities connected with fire, whether divine, infernal or volcanic were called Kabirian. The modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

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Amesha-Spentas (Avestan) (from a not + mesha, mara mortal, mutable + spenta benefactor, holy, soul-healing; cf Sanskrit svanta)

Immortal benefactors; six in number: Vohu-Manah, Asha-Vahishta, Khshathra-Vayria, Spenta-Armaiti (love), Haurvatat (perfection), and Ameretat (immortality). The first three are attributes of Ahura Mazda, abstractions without form. These male positive creative forces leave their impressions in the mental world and give birth to the second trinity, who lead man to freedom. "The Amshaspends, (are)

our Dhyan-Chohans or the ´Serpents of Wisdom.´ They are identical with, and yet separate from Ormazd (Ahura-Mazda). They are also the Angels of the Stars of the Christians -- the Star-yazatas of the Zoroastrians -- or again the seven planets (including the sun) of every religion. The epithet -- ´the shining having efficacious eyes´ -- proves it. This on the physical and sidereal planes. On the spiritual, they are the divine powers of Ahura-Mazda; but on the astral or psychic plane again, they are the ´Builders,´ the ´watchers,´ the Pitar (fathers), and the first Preceptors of mankind" (SD 2:358).

"Zarathushtra is the Divine Universal Force that directs everything within the universe towards perfection. This force is known as Amesha-Spenta" (Shahrestani, Al-Melal Va Al-Nehal). This force is equivalent to the Gnostic primeval ruler or governor, the closest being to the creator; the active mind or intellect which is the source of divine bliss and providence, with the Manichaen pure or holy spirits; the Hebrew elohim, the Arabic Malaeka (angels); the Koranic soul within the angels; and the theosophic dhyani-chohans or dhyani-buddhas. They are the rulers of the seven globes of the earth-chain.

A verse in the Ormazd Yasht (prayer to Ahura Mazda) hints at another aspect of the Amesha-Spentas connected with the afterdeath state. Each one is named, and the verse ends: these "are the reward of the holy ones, when freed from their bodies, my creatures" (v 25).

Some consider Ahura Mazda as the chief of the six Amesha-Spentas, but this is valid only when Ahura Mazda is taken for the pure, unmanifested light and not as the father of all creation.


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These are DEMONS, people.
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In Genesis, the book of Enoch and the book of Jubilees along with many other sources, we are told that the Elohim came to earth and took women as wives and had children by them.

These children were mighty men of renown (they were giants) and both they and their parents have become known as what we now call mythological gods.
The book of Enoch tells us that they had much knowledge and taught man many things, such as: Medicine, Alchemy, Astrology, the art of make-up, DNA, etc.
The pyramids are one example. Archeologists have unearthed dry cell batteries, paintings that show light bulbs, televisions, airplanes, etc. There is nothing new under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9 That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So, there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, "See this, it is new"? Already it has existed for ages which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things; And also of the later things which will occur, there will be for them no remembrance, among those who will come later still.
Genesis 6:1-4: "Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the Sons of the Elohim saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
1. Armaros: Taught men the resolving of enchantments
2. Araquiel: Taught men the signs of the earth
3. Azazel: Taught men to make knives, swords, and shields, and to devise ornaments and cosmetics.
4. Baraqijal: Taught men astrology
5. Ezequeel: Taught men the knowledge of the clouds.
6. Gadreel: Introduced weapons of war
7. Kokabel: Taught the science of constellations
8. Penemue: Instructed mankind in writing and taught children the bitter and sweet, and the secrets of wisdom.
9. Sariel: Taught men the course of the moon.
10. Semjaza: Taught men enchantments, root-cutting etc.
11. Shamshiel: Taught men the signs of the sun.
“Tertullian says that the ... works of nature, the secrets of metals, the virtues of plants, the forces of magical conjurations, and ‘all those alien teachings that make up the science of the stars’ - that is to say, the whole corpus of the ancient magico-hermetic sciences was revealed to men by the fallen angels.”

Tertullian’s assertion is confirmed elsewhere in a statement attributed to Hermes himself:

“The ancient and sacred books teach that certain angels burned with desire for women. They descended to earth and taught all the works of nature. They were the ones who created the Hermetic works, and from them proceeds the primordial tradition of this art.”

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These new star god kings now began to manipulate the gentic structure of man through cross breeding and alterations.
The moment we Christians are Raptured out from the world, the alien invasion will begin. So why do they want to do this. Number one is to reduce the population through war, disease, and fammine.
So if UFOs are real, where do they come from? The UFO technology came from the star gods back after the flood.
If Christians are speculating whether or not aliens can be saved, they are just adding to the confusion, since "aliens" are really spirit beings inhabiting genetically engineered bodies.
A revealing aspect of this is that most, though by no means all, of the contact is done telepathically, or by other occult means, such as automatic writing. The people who do this kind of communication with "aliens", are, again, called "contactees",
because it is usually the "aliens" who initiate the original contact with each person. Sometimes the same "alien" or "aliens" contact more than one person. They give names to identify themselves. One of the names thus given is "Ashtar".
This word happens to be essentially the same word as the name of a pagan goddess worshipped in several ancient cultures. See Ephesians 6:12. That verse refers to the demonic powers behind pagan religions.
It appears that the same powers are responsible for the "contactee" phenomenon.
When one looks at history we find many major religion´s that have been started from angelic visitations and messages. The Jehovah Witnesses, Mormonism, Islam and almost anything new is no exception to this.
The whole New Age movement receives their information from Spirit guides through channeling and automatic writing.
Angels taught false religions [link to www.touchet1611.org]
Even in the Old Testament, God knew how great the temptation would be, and warned numerous times not to follow any other beings except Him:
demons are a result of an unholy relationship between fallen angels and the daughters of men that occurred in the antediluvian period.
When the flood came, the human bodies of those giants, male and female, perished, but their spirits, which were half angels, roamed the earth in the spirit realm.
Demons are different to angels they are disembodied spirits whereas angels have spiritual bodies.
Another scripture that supports this teaching that the angels married the daughters of men is Jude 1:6, And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation,
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
The only other theory supplied on the origin of demons, is the idea of a Luciferian world as expostulated between Genesis one verses one and two.
Aside from these two suggestions no other satisfactory explanation has been forthcoming.
But why aliens? Well, understanding why they would choose to masquerade as ‘benevolent aliens’ has multiple purposes. One being that at the midpoint of the Tribulation, Satan and his angels will be physically and visibly cast down to earth and bound here.
These evil angels taught women in the ways of witchcraft! They taught them to forget God, and His ways, and to worship the forces of nature -- which is witchcraft. The size of these giants, we are told, was humongous.
Is this where the ancient legends of huge giants in the earth originated? What about the child´s fable about Jack and the Beanstalk? Obviously, these huge giants completely disrupted the ecosphere, and became a curse to habitat earth.
Fear, dread and terror would have been rampant, as their appetites turned from fleshly animals to cannibalism -- human flesh and blood itself! As the giant in the nursery rhyme said: "Fee, fie, foe, fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman!"
There may be more to this old "legend" than we have been told!
The book of Enoch goes on: "And Azaz´el [Hebrew, meaning "strong one or goat who goes away, or disappears", another name for Satan the adversary] taught the people (the art of) making swords and knives, and shields and breastplates;
and he showed to their chosen ones bracelets, decorations, (shadowing of the eye) with antimony, ornamentation, the beautifying of the eyelids,all kinds of precious stones, and all coloring tinctures and alchemy.
And there were many wicked ones and they committed adultery and erred, and all their conduct became corrupt" (Enoch 8:1-2).
The people of the earth groaned under the oppression which resulted from the tyranny and brutality of the new "overlords" of the earth. They cried out to God, "You see what Azaz´el has done; how he has taught all (forms of) oppression upon the earth. And they revealed eternal secrets which are performed in heaven (and which) man learned. (Moreover) Semyaz, to whom you have given power to rule over his companions, co-operating, they went in unto the daughters of the people on earth; and they lay together with them -- with those women -- and defiled themselves, and revealed to them every (kind of) sin. As for the women, they gave birth to giants to the degree that the whole earth was filled with blood and oppression" (Enoch 9:6-9).
"Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, made them see that which was behind them, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint (cosmetics), the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind(silver, gold, diamonds, rupees, etc.), and of all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered. Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways." The Book of Enoch Chapter 8:1-2.
"Thou hast seen what Azazyel has done, how he has taught every species of iniquity upon the earth, and has disclosed to the world all the secret things which are done in the heavens. "
´Samaza also has taught sorcery, to whom thou hast given authority over those who are associated with him. they have gone together to the daughters of men; have lain with them; have become polluted; and have discovered crimes to them (Oral Sex). The women likewise have brought forth giants (Gibborim)." The Book of Enoch Chapter 9: 5-8.
gods taught humans
What might have the Mayans been referring to when they described their gods coming from the sky to teach them complex mathematical and astronomical principles?
I believe it’s rooted in fact. The Mayans, the Egyptians, Native American, South American and Oriental Cultures all tell very similar versions of this story – that so called gods came from the sky, mated with human women and in many cases introduced fantastic new technologies to the people. We’re most familiar with the Greek and Roman gods, and the story is the same: some god had a child by a human woman, and "that’s how Hercules was born."
But there’s a HUGE difference when you look for this story in the Bible. The Bible speaks of them as opposing God and hurting mankind, not helping. Other religions called them their gods, and offered them worship and sacrifice, but Genesis 6 classifies them as wicked angels. They were abducting women, creating a hybrid race on the earth, and society became so corrupt that God wiped everyone out and started over. I’d say that the Bible certainly does refer to these gods who were advancing our technology, but the Bible is also rather unique among ancient sources, in saying that they were evil.
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[link to www.mysteriousworld.com] "Watchers" in The Book of Enoch — that brought about the violence and corruption of the Earth that moved God to bring the Flood. Instead of giving mankind the gifts of charity, kindness and love, which God preferred and were ultimately much better for man, the Watchers, and their evil progeny, the Nephilim, gave mankind gifts of technology which, though they seemed to be desirable on the face of it — "pleasing to the eye" — they ultimately proved to be deadly. The actual effect of the increase of technology was, instead of improving man´s lot, it merely gave him the ability to kill his fellow man more efficiently.

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By now, readers, you should be well aware that the issue of the "aliens" bringing technology to humans (the Area 51 myth) is actually a long-time actuality/truth from the very earliest times of history. The Holy Bible is the story of this and God´s Plan to overcome this Luciferian contamination.
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´Samaza also has taught sorcery, to whom thou hast given authority over those who are associated with him. they have gone together to the daughters of men; have lain with them; have become polluted; and have discovered crimes to them (Oral Sex). The women likewise have brought forth giants (Gibborim)." The Book of Enoch Chapter 9: 5-8.


Samaza = Shamhesh = Shemhazi = Lucifer = Satan = Helel... all the same entity.
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Lest you think that this information is poppycock, understand that the United States is being pulled into a fascist police state by the Nazis now. You are advised to read and understand this:

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By Glen Yeadon

There were little warning signs but few were paying attention when George Bush the poppy ran for president in 1988 and 1992. First during the campaign it surfaced that one of his campaign staffers was a distributor of pro-Nazi propaganda. Before the ink was dry on the individual’s resignation, further revelations showed there were in fact a number of ex-Nazis on Bush’s campaign staff including Laszlo Pastor and Yaroslav Stetsko. Pastor was a member of the Hungarian Arrow Cross during WWII and served as an envoy to Germany. The Arrow Cross was known to be excessively brutal even to their Nazi allies. Stetsko served as the prime minister of the short lived Ukrainian puppet government. During the short reign of this puppet regime over 100,000 Jews were slaughtered in Lvov. George Bush’s insensitivity towards victims of the holocaust is underlined by his employment of Fred Malek, a well-known collaborator with former Nazis in both his presidential campaigns.

Upon winning the presidential race, George Bush, the poppy placed his assets in a blind trust headed by his close friend William Stamps Farish III. That appointment should have triggered alarm bells that something very dark and sinister is buried in the Bush family’s past. His grandfather William Stamps Farish sold the Japanese the gasoline used in the attack on Pearl Harbor. Likewise, the elder Farish supplied Hitler’s war machine with oil and tetraethyl lead. George Bush’s father, Prescott was close friends with the elder Farish and remained so even after the elder’s testimony before congress provoked Harry Truman to cry out "This is Treason."

In fact, during the war, Prescott had three companies seized from him for trading with the Nazis. To understand the web of intrigue and follow the money from the Holocaust to the Bush family we need to start with the period immediately surrounding WWI. By 1916 August Thyssen could see that Germany had already lost the Great War and he needed to protect his fortune. His eldest son had been groomed to run the family steel business in the Ruhr. His second son Heinrich discreetly changed his citizenship from German to Hungarian and married the Hungarian aristocrat Baroness Margrit Bornemisza de Kaszon. Near the end of the war August Thyssen opened the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart in Rotterdam. Holland was a neutral country during the war and the new bank would serve as the perfect location to launder funds from the Thyssen Bank in Berlin and protect his fortune from allied financial demands. At the end of the war Heinrich now going by the name of Baron Thyssen Bornemisza de Kaszon moved to Rotterdam and became the principal owner of the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart. All that remained to be done in August Thyseen’s plan was to set up an American Bank.

In 1922, Averell Harriman traveled to Germany to set up a branch of W.A. Harriman in Berlin. Harriman had hired George Herbert Walker, George Bush’s grandfather to run both the New York and Berlin branches of his expanding investment firm. During his stay in Germany Harriman had met the Thyseen family and agreed to help the Thyssen’s set up an American bank.

In 1923, Germany was in economic shambles and Thyssen met with his friend General Ludendorff, who advised him that Germany’s hope lied with Hitler and the Nazi Party. Thyssen soon became a financial backer of the Nazis and Hitler.

Early in 1924, Hendrick J. Kouwenhoven, the managing director of Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, traveled to New York. Meeting with Walker and the Harriman brothers, they founded the Union Banking Corporation. In 1926, August Thyssen died the eldest son Fritz expanded the Thyssen empire by creating United Steel Works. Thyssen also brought Fredich Flick on board. The Thyssen-Flick union was designed to suppress the union movement. As a result of the merger of Thyssen and Flick, George Walker hired his son in law Prescott Bush to manage the United Steel Works account. One division of United Steel Works consisted of both Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and the Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company. Both were located in the mineral rich Silesian area of Poland. The arrangement was extremely profitable for all four men: Thyssen, Flick, Walker and Bush until the depression started in 1929. Congressional investigations after the war showed that United Steel had supplied 50.8 percent of the pig iron in Nazi Germany and likewise was a major supplier of all other ferrous based metal products needed by Hitler’s war machine. Hence, one of the largest munitions makers in Nazi Germany was funded by Prescott Bush, the father and grandfather of two future US Presidents.

Due to the depression, Harriman merged with Brown forming the Brown Brothers and Harriman firm. Internally the stock of Consolidated Silesian Steel Company was held by the Harriman 15 Corporation formed by Harriman and Bush. Two thirds of the stock was owned by Flick. By 1934, with Hitler in solid control of Germany the profits from the Thyssen-Flick union soared to over a hundred million. Both Union Bank and the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart were overflowing with money. Prescott Bush became managing director of Union Bank and took over the day-to-day operations of the German plan.

In 1939, the Nazis invaded Poland ending a dispute over taxes between Consolidated and the Polish government. The Nazis original plan was to replace the workers in Polish factories with Soviet prisoners. However, that portion of the Hitler-Stalin agreement was never implemented. Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation was located near the Polish town of Oswiecim. When the plan to use Soviet prisoners as forced labor fell through, the Nazis began shipping Jews, communists, gypsies and other minority populations to the camp the Nazis had set up. This was the beginning of Auschwitz. The reason Auschwitz was located there was because of the abundant supplies of coal which could be processed into aviation fuel. I.G. Farben soon built a plant near Auschwitz to take advantage of not only of the nearby coal deposits but also of the slave labor supply available at Auschwitz. According to a Dutch intelligence agent, Prescott Bush managed a portion of the slave labor force in Poland.

Thyssen and Flick sold Consolidated Steel to UBC. Under the complete control of Harriman and Bush’s management, the company became Silesian American Corporation, which became part of UBC and Harriman´s portfolio of 15 corporations. As the 1930s progressed and it became clearer that war was imminent, Bush and Harriman hired the Dulles brothers to conceal the Nazi money and ownership in Union Bank. In concealing the involvement of the Nazis in Union Bank, Prescott Bush and Harriman undoubtedly knew that they were already engaged in an activity that was probably illegal and certainly not in the best of interests of their country. Once war broke out however, Bush’s activities on the behalf of the Nazis through Union Banking became tantamount to treason.

The reader should understand that the concealing of Nazis assets located in the United States through a maze of corporate shells often based in Switzerland was an integral part of the German battle plan. In fact, the Nazi had a word for it, tarnung or to camouflage. The primary aim of these concealed Nazi corporations was to wage economic warfare by creating production bottlenecks for their adversary. The reader should also be aware that two Americans were present during the secret meeting of the German elite that brought Hitler to power. Those two Americans were John Foster and Allen Dulles.

Two of the directors of Union Banking Groninger and Kouwenhoven, were Nazi directors of the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, formerly the von Heydt Bank. Von Heydt was also a Nazi and has been identified as the intermediary between the Guaranty Trust and Adolf Hitler. Both Groninger and Kouwenhoven contributed lavishly to Himmler’s Circle of Friends. There were over forty firms around Auschwitz using slave labor from the death camp. Soon the Nazis had a massive store of gold from dental fillings, glasses and jewelry. The Nazis extracted the fillings of its victims after being informed by Degussa that the company could refine it into marketable gold bullion. Degussa was awarded an exclusive contract with the Nazis to refine all gold. The company was also joint owners with I.G. Farben of Degesch, a firm that produced Zyklon-B cyanide tablets used in the gas chambers. Due to the hoard of gold fillings stacking up at Auschweitz, Degussa built a smelter there. The bullion was then shipped back to Berlin and commingled with the Nazis gold stash. Undoubtedly some of it made its way back to the banker in charge of United Steel Works, Prescott Bush.

On October 20, 1942 the United States government seized Union Banking under the Trading with the Enemy Act. During that summer, The New York Tribune had exposed Bush and Thyssen whom it called Hitler’s Angel. Union Bank’s books revealed a myriad of Nazi money and holding companies. Officials realized they had only scratched the tip of the iceberg. On November 17, 1942, the government seized Silesian American Corporation and placed its operation under the Government Alien Property custodian office.

Following the war, authorities seeking to locate the Dutch Royal family’s jewelry discovered the transaction papers of the Silesian American Corporation in the books of Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart. The bank manager, H.J. Kounhoven came under intense scrutiny and was shocked by the discovery. Soon Kounhoven traveled to New York to inform Prescott Bush. Dutch authorities date the meeting as soon after Christmas 1947. Two weeks later, the otherwise healthy Dutch banker died of a heart attack. Coincidentally, this was the method of choice of the Gehlen network for liquidating people. The Nazis had perfected a method of inducing heart attacks that autopsies could not detect.

On February 8, 1951, Thyssen died in Argentina. Following his death, the Alien Property Custodian released the assets of the Union Banking Corporation to Brown Brothers Harriman. The remaining shareholders quietly cashed in their remaining shares. Prescott Bush received $1.5 million for his share in Union Banking’s blood money.

This brief article has only scratched the surface of the sordid association of Prescott Bush with the Nazis as he had yet a third company seized from him during the war. In his first run for senator, Prescott was defeated after his position within the eugenics movement was disclosed. George the poppy has followed in his father’s footsteps and retained many of the same family connections with the Nazis. For instance, as chairman of the Republican Party he presided over the formation of the Ethnic Heritage groups of the Republican Party. This was a reward for the Nazi quislings from Eastern Europe for helping in the election of Nixon as president. When two or more ethnic groups were vying for control over a particular group invariably the group with close ties to the Nazis won out. George also shows the same intense interest in population control. Perhaps it was for his beliefs in eugenics, George appointed Draper as his expert on population. Or perhaps it was more of a reward for past services rendered by Draper to the Bush family. Draper was the former general placed in control of the military government‘s economic division after the war. Draper was a rabid racist and member of the Eugenics Society. He was also a former employee of Dillion and Reed, the large Wall Street brokerage house that floated the largest German bond offerings including one for United Steel Works. In his position as economic czar of Germany, he stopped the dismantling of an I.G. Farben plant and was in the ideal slot to protect his former clients that armed Hitler, including Bush.

The same close associations are apparent with Bush junior. One interesting pattern in international relations is ready observed that the Israeli government moves to the hard right whenever a Bush is in the Oval Office. Considering, Israel has one of the best intelligence agencies in the world and a perhaps the most extensive data base on the holocaust, could the Israeli hard-liners be blackmailing the Bushes? Do they have a smoking gun that would at once end the political aspirations of the entire Bush clan as well as place the family wealth at risk for damages suffered during the Holocaust? One researcher already says the family wealth is at risk in such suits; the ties are that strong.

Any reasonable person understands that the tragedy of 9-11 was allowed to happen. Only the White House can order the interceptors to stand down, once an aircraft deviates from its flight plan or contact is lost. Within 30 minutes of the time the golfer’s plane that decompressed failed to follow directions from the control tower a fighter was alongside and shadowed the plane until it ran out of fuel and crashed in the midwest. The story that no fighters were available is simply a lot of bullshit. There are probably no less than a dozen or more airports within range of New York and Washington DC with fighter squadrons on standby. Yet, Bush wants us to believe that the entire East Coast was left unprotected with no fighters to provide air cover including the restricted airspace over the White House. The 9-11 tragedy was the Reichstag fire and the so-call Patriot Act, the enabling act for another fascist government.

With American blood about to stain the sands of the Mideast why hasn’t the media focused on the merchant of death, who armed Saddam? They would need to look no further than George Bush, the poppy and Vice President Dick Cheney. Poppy Bush is rubbing his hands with glee counting potential profits for his Carlyle Group. The group holds stocks in defense industries that armed Saddam during the Reagan years and provided arms for the US military. This is the way the Bush family makes it money. Just ask Prescott. It didn’t take Dick long to learn that secret. After the first Bush administration in which Cheney was the head of defense, he became head of Halliburton.While at Halliburton, Dick sold hundred of millions of dollars worth of dual use equipment to Iraq.

Stand behind the young soldiers and wave a flag for them, as they are mere canon fodder for this fascist clique. Don’t wave a flag for the most corrupt administration in the history of the country that’s hell-bent on installing a fascist regime beholding to no one other than corporate interests.

Your freedom depends on it.

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Another "War in Heaven"

Once again, within the next few years, there is going to be "war in heaven" and Satan the devil will be cast out, and down to this earth. In the book of Revelation we read that in the time just ahead of us, Satan is once more going to stage an attack on God´s throne in heaven. John records:

"And there was WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (Rev.12:7-9).

History repeats itself! Just as angels were cast out of heaven aeons ago, and left their first estate during the time of Noah, and performed wicked acts upon the earth, so once again -- in OUR TIME -- they will again be cast down to the earth, after suffering defeat in a great cosmic conflict -- war in heaven!

Satan´s final battle to seize God´s Throne in heaven will fail, and he and his angels will be hurled down to the earth, filled with seething hatred. John goes on:

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Rev.12:7-12).

At that coming time Satan will launch a persecution of the people of God such as has never before occurred in all history. It will be a time of terrible tribulation and suffering.

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman [the church of God, those truly zealous and obeying the commandments of God] were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place [a place of safety, security and refuge!], where she is nourished for a time, times, and half a time [three and one half years], from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to MAKE WAR against the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:13-17).

When Satan and his demons are cast back down to this earth, filled with boiling hatred and seething violence, they will once again seek to pervert and destroy mankind. In a final attempt to avert their fate, they will embark on a program of sexual experimentation, deviation, and programming to attempt to find a "magic bullet" to enable them to defeat God, and His Plan!

Demonic accounts of the rape and seduction of human beings by "flying saucer" aliens, today, is just the beginning of another round -- a "third irruption" -- of angelic beings cohabiting with women. Once again, the fruits will be devilish -- confusion, chaos, sensuality, strife, and every evil work (James 3:14-16). There may not be literal "giants," physically, this time. But there will be "men of renown," of incredible ability, walking in our midst -- perhaps looking just like other human beings. The strange absorption of the motion picture industry today with demonic rape and seduction -- movies such as "Rosemary´s Baby," the "Amityville Horror," and others like "Independence Day," "Armageddon," and "Alien" -- seems to be focussing the world´s attention on such concepts, in a perverted manner.

Once again, Satan the devil and his angels are "pulling out the stops" and going "all out" to get their "revenge" on God by perverting the ways of God upon the earth, as they did in Noah´s time! Jesus´ meant literally what He said! "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man"!

Satan isn´t finished yet. But his time is almost up. But for those of us who worship and serve the Creator God, and Jesus Christ His Messiah, the time has come for us to prepare ourselves as never before, and get ready to meet our Redeemer, Saviour, coming King of kings and Lord of lords! As Jesus Himself said: "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh" (Luke 21:28)

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The megalithic Olmec civilization that left such a mark in the archaeological record of Mesoamerica, was that which developed from the Anakin/Fomorian survivors of the defeat they received at the hands of the Egyptians in Spain -- more than 1,200 years before the death of Christ!

The customs of these people (megaliths, child-sacrifice, place-naming) all point to their origins in North Africa and Canaan. The mystery of the Olmec is solved -- by studying the traditions and archaeological records of a people, as well as accepting the records of by-gone historians, we can arrive at the truth and lift the veil that continues to cloud the view of the "experts" of this world!

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These were a savage group who became sea demons. They were another of the original groups that invaded Ireland. Ultimately, they were defeated by Tuatha de Denann,and they were driven into the sea.

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tuatha de danann

Form the Irish meaning Children of the Goddess Danu, Tuatha de Danann is probably the most important race of færies. The had a monarchical society, and they were a magical race. The Tuatha de Danann flew into Ireland with their four magical possessions: The Lia Fail (stone of destiny), the spear of their warrior god Lug, the sword of Nuadu, and the inexhaustible cauldron of the god good the Dagda. They banished the Firbolg and defeated the demonic Fomorians. Many centuries later they were defeated and driven to their otherworldly kingdom, Tir nan Og by the Milesians. There in Tir nan Og, they remain ageless and beautiful, still practicing magic. Many think that all færies are descended from the race of Tuatha de Danann.

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One of the last invasions of Ireland recorded in the book is that of the Milesians, also known as the Gaels or the Sons of Mil. These people are said to be the true ancestors of the Irish race.

The legend of the Milesians is an amazing one, and covers half the then known world. This very amended version of the story starts in Scythia, the name given by the ancient Greeks after about 800 BC to the homeland of the Scythians in the southeast part of Europe, eastward from the Carpathian Mountains to the Don River.

Scythia was ruled by the King Fenius and was the land of a nomadic people famous for their horsemanship. One day a poisonous snake bit the King´s grandson Gaedhuil (Green Gael). His father, Nuil, carried the boy to the Israelites, where Moses healed him with his staff.

Moses told the boy that his descendants would travel to a land where there were no snakes, an island in fact that lay in the setting track of the sun (to the west). Later in the story after much traveling either Gaedhuil, with a new name of Milesius, or a son of Gaedhuil with this name is found in Spain. Here he has a wife named Scota who is the daughter of an Egyptian Pharoah and he is a King of the land.

Milesius had a brother named Ith, who discovered an Island. In the course of investigating whether it was the legendary Innisfail (Island of Destiny), Ith was wounded by the Tuatha de Danaan (Gaelic for People of the Goddess Danu), and died on the journey home to Spain. Upon their arrival home, the remaining explorers found that King Milesius had died. His sons along with their mother Scota led a force that returned to punish the Tuatha de Danaan for killing Ith. After a large battle they conquered the Tuatha de Danaan and took control of Ireland. The mother Scota was killed in the fight and her surviving sons, Eber and Eremon, became rulers of the land.

Eremon took the northern half of the Island while Eber took the south. The northeastern corner was given to the people of their brother Ir who had also died in the fight, and the southwestern corner was given to their cousin Lughaid, the son of Ith who had died discovering the island.

The sixteenth century scholar, O´Flaherty, fixes the Milesian invasion of Ireland at about 1000 B.C. - the time of Solomon. Others give varying dates for this invasion from 3,500 BC to 300 BC. Like other legendary histories based on oral tradition, monks who interpreted them from a Christian perspective documented these stories. Over the passage of time these stories have been augmented and changed so that it has become virtually impossible to sift fact from fiction.

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Giants in Spain:

Commenting on this find, Henry H. Halley writes: "This seems like a tradition of Babel." The site, he adds, "is now an immense hole 330 feet square, which has been used as a quarry from which to take bricks. When standing it consisted of a number of successive platforms one on the top of another, each smaller than the one below, a sanctuary to Marduk on the top." Halley also explains the Bible´s description of a tower with its top in heaven as "an expression of the vast pride of the first builders of ´ziggurats,´ the artificial temple hills of Sumeria and Babylonia . . . Ziggurats still exist in ruin at Ur and Erech (modern Warka) and their construction illustrates Genesis 11:3, 4. Their whole purpose whenever found was idolatrous worship and herein lay the sin of the Babel builders."79

Following the tower´s overthrow, the people of Babel found themselves no longer able to understand one another, so they began scattering toward all points on the compass. But still blessed with robust health and long life, these clans flourished. When their numbers became too great, many pushed out into other lands. Unfortunately, during these migrations, they once more encountered the evolved Nephilim people. And when these fallen, earthbound sons of God saw that the daughters of Noah were more beautiful than their own, they took them for wives. So the Gibborim, the huge, hellish children born of such marriages, once more appeared on earth.

Though these movements occurred in dim antiquity, the ancient historians have been able to track many of them. Gomer´s clans, for instance, settled in "Higher Asia," in lands not too distant from one another. Here they came in contact with some Nephilim flood survivors and apparently entered a close association with them, for, after being defiled by genes from this "strange flesh," they eventually evolved into a race of giants. From them, affirms the Celtic scholar Paul Pezron, sprang the enormous blond Sacae that overran parts of Asia and Asia Minor and some Fertile Crescent countries, possibly including Canaan. In later times, having changed their derisive name Sacae to Celtae, they conquered most of Europe.

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Pezron, who traced the Gomarian giants´ early entrance into the European provinces, discovered that they came by two routes. The Cimbrians entered from the north. These people ... were better known unto the Greeks by the name of Cimmerians.... I have clearly enough proved that these last were called Sacae, while they continued in the Upper Asia, and I have shewn there were two sorts of them, viz. the more civilized Sacae, who coalesced into societies in Bactriana and the adjacent countries, and the vagrant and wild Sacae, who were known by the name "Nomades".... While the Cimbri followed this northern route into Europe, their gigantic cousins, the Gomarian Sacae, advanced along the southern route. Having filled Hircania, Margiana, and Bactriana, these giants soon irrupted into greater Armenia. They afterwards invaded Syria, settled colonies as far as Arabia, and became neighbors of the Chaldeans. Yet, for all these expansions, many Gomerians remained unsatisfied.

A representation of the route of the "Aryan Invasion", ca. 2000 b.c. The Aryan Invasion Theory posits that a mass migration of peoples took place during the third millennium b.c. and afterwards, moving out from the Caucasus and conquering towards the four winds. One or more waves of Aryan peoples migrated out of the Caucasus region in Central Asia, one half parting from the main body and moving east into Persia, India, and parts unknown to the east (the Magogians), whereas the remaining half (the Gomerians) continued northward and westward to settle Europe. A different group of Gomerians, the "Gomerian Sacae", had proceeded due west through Asia minor instead to conquer southern Europe. Other Gomerians likely invaded south into Canaan, where they were known as the "Amorites", the giants that the Israelites drove out and destroyed by the time of King David, ca. 1000 b.c. Image from Armenian Highland.

"This nation", explains Pezron, "besides that it was naturally inclined to war, was moreover, as it hath always been, of a roving, uneasy and ambitious nature. And therefore the people resolved to make their way yet farther, and to enter into the provinces of western Asia, called "Asia the Lesser." In the first wave of this expansion, they overran Cappadocia and Pontus. Strabo, a native of that country, reports that many of these Sacae afterward settled around the southern shores of the Black Sea.


In ancient legends about the people of the Black Sea,
the "People of the Flood" were known as CIMMERIANS,
who in ancient times lived on the Black Sea.

We shall show that these are the same
as the Mesopotamian SUMERIANS and SAMARIANS
as well as the Pharaonic Egyptian KEMET
- the hieroglyphic name for the land of Old Kingdom Egypt -
and that the name CIMMERI is Indo-European,
on the basis of Latvian ZIEMELI "northerners".

Herodotus, the Greek father of history, reports the legend
that the Cimmerians were driven out of the Black Sea region
over the Caucasus into Mesopotamia by the Scythians.

Hence, we also have written "historical" reason
to seek the Cimmerians of the Black Sea
in the Sumerians or Samarians of Mesopotamia.
This people will not have changed their name that quickly.

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German Prodigy
Giants Who Became Gods

The "German Giant" claimed a height of nine feet six inches. On August 15,1664, Pepys went to Charing Cross, "and there saw the great Dutchman that is come over, under whose arm I went with my hat on, and could not reach higher than his eyebrows with the tip of my fingers. He is a comely and well-made man, and his wife a very little but pretty comely Dutch woman." Pepys then adds: "It is true, he wears pretty high-heeled shoes, but not very high, and do generally wear a turban, which makes him show yet taller than he really is." One of his handbills reads: "The true Effigies of the German Giant, now to be seen at the Swan, near Charing Cross, whose stature is nine foot and a half in height, and the span of his hand a cubit compleat. He goes from place to place with his wife, who is but of an ordinary stature, and takes money for the shew of her husband."48

Giants Who Became Gods
The Celtae, especially the princes who commanded them, says Paul Pezron, "exceeded all others in bulk and strength of body; and hence it is that they have been looked upon to be terrible people, and as it were Giants."49 The names of Celt and Gaul, he adds, came from Celtic words meaning about the same thing, with both signi-fying a "potent, and valiant man."50

Pezron, who traced the Gomarian giants´ early entrance into the European provinces, discovered they came by two routes. The Cimbrians entered from the north. These people, explains the Celtic historian, "were better known unto the Greeks by the name of Cimmerians.... I have clearly enough proved that these last were called Sacae, while they continued in the Upper Asia, and I have shewn there were two sorts of them, viz. the more civilized Sacae, who coalesced into societies in Bactriana and the adjacent countries, and the vagrant and wild Sacae, who were known by the name Nomades."51

The wild Nomadan Sacae at first dwelled near the rise or spring of the Jaxartes, not far from Mount Imaus. When the land became not big enough to bear their ever-growing numbers, they followed die example of their Gomarian Sacae cousins who had earlier fallen upon Armenia. But the Nomadan Sacae made their great push in the opposite direction, i.e., toward the northern parts of Asia, then westward. After "many rovings and inroads," they settled for a time above the Euxine or Black Sea, toward the Palus Maeotidis. "There it was, in all probability," thinks Pezron, "that they changed their name, and assumed that of Cimbrians or Cimmerians." In Latin, he goes on to say, Cimbri "properly signifies Warriors, or rather Men of War. . . . But the Greeks, especially the poets, whose business it was to soften these barbarous names, gave them that of Cimmerians. Being thus settled about the Palus Maeotidis, and having fixed their habitations, they communicated their name to that famous straight,52 which has since then been called the Cimbrian or Cimmerian Bosphorus."53

Pezron invites those inclined to doubt this to check the ancient historians, such as Poseidonius, Diodorus Siculus, Strabo, and Plutarch. Poseidonius, for example, mentions that the Cimbrians derived from gug and guas, this word means giant in their tongue and signifies a "proud, insolent, arrogant, haughty" man were great rovers, that they loved to plunder, and that they carried their arms as far as the Palus Maeotidis. He also confirms that the Cimmerian, that is, Cimbrian Bosphorus, was called according to their name.

Moreover, continues Pezron, "we may be confident, and that upon very good grounds, that this colony of the Cimbrians, or rather Nomadan Sacae, was very ancient, since it preceded the time of Inachus, who reigned in Greece about 2000 years before the nativity of our Saviour. Further, I have met with some ancient fragments, which may be produced elsewhere, wherein the Cimmerians acknowledge themselves, they were originally shepherds, descended of those Scythians, called Sacae; that they formerly dwelt in Asia. . . . These Cimbrians, the offspring of the Asiatick Sacae, were without dispute the true Celtae, as those historians, who have wrote of them, sufficiently intimate."54

While the Cimbri followed this northern route into Europe, their gigantic cousins, the Gomarian Sacae, advanced along the southern route. Having filled Hircania, Margiana, and Bactriana, these giants soon irrupted into greater Armenia. They afterward invaded Syria, settled colonies as far as Arabia, and became neighbors of the Chaldeans. Yet, for all these expansions, many Gomarians remained unsatisfied. "This nation," explains Pezron, "besides that it was naturally inclined to war, was moreover, as it hath always been, of a roving, uneasie and ambitious nature. And therefore the people resolved to make their way yet farther, and to enter into the provinces of western Asia, called Asia the Lesser."55 In the first wave of this expansion, they overran Cappadocia and Pontus. Strabo, a native of that country, reports that many of these Sacae afterward settled around the southern shores of the Black Sea.56

Though these migrations occurred in dim antiquity, the names of the principal chieftains involved in the southern advance have amazingly survived. While going through the books of the most ancient historians, Pezron learned that a prince named Acmon, the son of Maneus, headed the plundering giants, and that he had a brother named Doeas, who accompanied him on all his campaigns.

After seizing Cappadocia and Pontus, Acmon for some little while gloried in his conquests—but apparently not for long. "The warlike humor of that prince," says Pezron, "excited ... by his ambition, would not let him rest quiet there; to say nothing of the riches and fruitfulness of the neighboring provinces, which were powerful motives to a people that loved to make new incursions, and frequently to change their habitation. Acmon therefore and his brother, having passed the river Halis, made his way into the Greater Phrygia."57

Following his conquests in Asia Minor, Acmon and his tall subjects built at least two cities. Probably the first was Themicyra, on the southern shores of the Black Sea. Acmon named this place in honor of Themis, his granddaughter. "For Thamisker, or Themisker," remarks Pezron, "still signifies the city of Themis, in the Celtick language.... It was this Themis, by the way, that the ignorant and superstitious Greeks have made to be the goddess of justice; whereas she was no other than a famous she-magician, or heathen prophetess, who spoke the truth without flattery, and whom they had set up to administer justice; for this was common enough among the Scythians."58 Soon after they became masters of Phrygia, the Sacae also founded Acmonia. According to the Argonauts of Apollonius, and some other authors, this city was located near the river Thermodon. Both Stephen of Byzantium and Alexander Poly histor identify its builder as Acmon, son of Maneus. It became a well-known city in antiquity, and for a long time it preserved that prince´s name. "Cicero somewhere speaking of it, calls it Acmona," remarks Pezron. "And what is still more, we find it noted in Ptolemy´s Geography, and the medals of some Roman emperors."59

The first historians also left evidence that the Gomarian giants who followed Acmon into Asia Minor worshipped him and possibly his brother Doeas as gods. Both in Cappadocia and Phrygia, woods and groves were consecrated to this prince, as to a god or hero. And in Cappadocia, not far from Themicyra, comments Pezron, there still exist vast plains "called Doeantes, according to his brother Doeas ... who accompanied him in this expedition."60

After the Sacae entered into Upper Phrygia, relates Pezron, they began calling themselves Titans and gave Acmon the title of Most High. The Phoenician historian Sanchoniathon61 confirms that this prince was addressed as the Most High, or Elion in the Phoenician tongue, and Altissimus in the Greek. He also mentions that the Most High came to a violent end on a hunt when, with an "overforwardness," he encountered some wild beasts. After his death, however, Acmon´s people still reckoned him "among the Number of the Gods," and his children continued to offer sacrifices and oblations to him. He was succeeded in all his dominions by his giant son Uranus, who by the Titans was also worshipped as a god. And so it happened that when the Greeks of ancient times came under the dominance of the Titans, they enthusiastically embraced the giants´ religious beliefs and also bowed themselves down to Uranus, wor-shipping him as a Man of Heaven.62

Now, continues Pezron, there is no question but that Uranus descended from Acmon. For evidence he cites Sanchoniathon´s test-mony that Elion, that is, the Most High, fathered Uranus.63 In his book De Natura Deorum, Phornutus also speaks of Uranus as the son of Acmon.64 And "Simias of Rhodes, an ancient and famous author, in his book de Alls, gives Uranus the name of Acmonides, as being the son of Acmon." Furthermore, Hesy****s himself held this opinion. An accurate and learned grammarian, he defined the name Acmonides in this manner: "It signifies Uranus; for as much as that this person was the son of Acmon."65

Oddly enough, notes Pezron, from this single family of giant Gomarian princes came "those who have passed for the greatest and ancientest gods of the heathen world. Tho´ in reality they were no other than mortal men, and even men that were guilty of horrible irregularities, amidst all their power and authority: For who has not heard of the shameful disorders, both of Saturn, who was the son of Uranus, and of Jupiter, whom they revered as his grandson? Lo, these were the great deities of Athens and Rome; these the omnipotent and sovereign gods of the Greeks and Romans: Such was the blindness of mankind in those ignorant and obscure ages of the world."66

Now in his history, Sanchoniathon reveals that after the giant Uranus succeeded Acmon, he married his own sister. "She was called Terra," explains Pezron; "for her true name, which the Grecians have happily preserved for us, was Titea, in Latin Titaea: But this word, which signifies earth or earthly, is also taken from the Celtick language: For tit among them signified earth, as well as among the Hebrews. . . . But here I must note, that as Titea in the Celtick language signifies Earth, so Uran and Uren is as much as to say, a Man of Heaven; for in this language Ur is a man . . . and en even at this very day signifies heaven: And that which is singular, is [by] the Grecians called the heavens from this prince´s name, as Sanchoniathon hath very well observed.

"Moreover, ´tis not without reason that this prince of the Titans has been called Uranus, A Man of Heaven: For ancient historians inform us, that he was given to the study of astronomy, and to know the nature influences, revolutions, with the several motions of the stars: That he had by the help of this science, as well as that by augury and divination, foretold strange surprizing events to his people. And as they were much taken up in admiration and astonishment, they looked upon him to be an Heavenly Man, who in some sort participated in the nature of the gods. But as this prince might be learned this way, it may be said of him, he was no less ambitious in his nature, and ´twas this noble ardour of mind which formed the heroes of old, that made them undertake great enterprizes: For we find by history that this put him upon enlarging the bounds of his dominions, which were yet confined within Phrygia, and some other provinces of the Lesser Asia."

So, looking for new worlds to conquer, Uranus and his giants passed the Bosphorus and overran Thrace and Greece. He also brought the Isle of Crete under his power. Still not satisfied, "he fell furiously upon the other provinces of Europe, and carried all before him even to the utmost boundaries of Spain." Diodorus Siculus says he even invaded the west coast of Africa, taking control of Mauritania. Instead of satiating Uranus´ ambition, these conquests served only to swell it. In later campaigns, he made further inroads into the northern provinces and extended his rule over other parts of Europe to the south. "So that it´s no wonder," declares Pezron, "that the people bordering the Atlantick, whose history Diodorus gives us, say that Uranus was their prince, and ruled over them, and affirm that this hero reduced a great part of the world under his empire, and especially of those countries that lay to the west and north: Besides which, Sanchoniathon makes it manifest enough to us, that his father and he were masters of Syria and Phoenicia."67

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Sanchuniathon or Sanchoniathon or Sanchoniatho is the purported Phoenician author of three works in Phoenician, surviving only in partial paraphrase and summary of a Greek translation by Philo of Byblos. These few fragments comprise the most extended literary source concerning Phoenician religion in either Greek or Latin."

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On the appointed day, one hundred and eighty thousand Cimbri took up a position in the plain. There they formed a square whose sides measured nearly four miles. Behind them waited their wives and children and the other noncombatants, with their wagons. From the throats of the vast multitude of warriors and even their families now came horrible war cries and shouted singing. Meanwhile, the horn blowers and trumpeters rent the air with their stirring calls to battle. The charioteers began lining up in their appointed places. Some of their splendidly adorned cavalry, which numbered 15,000, pranced about, eager for battle. They wore helmets made to resemble the heads of wild beasts with gaping jaws, and above those rose plumes of feathers. This adornment, as calculated, caused them to appear even more frightful, even more invincible, and even more enormous than they already were. As the savage hosts worked themselves into a frenzy, Marius and his legionnaires approached from the east, with the sun and wind at their backs. As the Roman legionnaires entered the field, the great Cimbri army set itself into a motion that Plutarch likened to the billowing of a furious ocean at high tide. As was their custom, the bravest of the Cimbri, with blood-curdling yells, led the attack. so that their ranks might not be broken, those in the forefront bound themselves together with iron chains attached to their belts. This surging tide of blond barbarian giants the Roman foot soldiers attacked first with their javelins. The breech this created allowed the Romans to get inside the Cimbri lines with their swords. As the battle progressed, a big cloud of dust arose from beneath the combatants´ trampling feet. The light wind at the Romans´ backs blew this dust mostly into the faces of the Cimbri. The hot August sun also began to hinder their sight. To shut out the harsh glare, the heavy-sweating Cimbri warriors now and then lifted their shields at the sun, thus exposing more of their large bodies to the Romans, who slew them almost at will. After great numbers had been killed and it became evident to those still alive that there was no chance to turn the tide of battle, many brave German giants bound themselves together with chains to fight to the last man. But some sought refuge among their wagons. Then before the Roman´s eyes occurred a most unusual scene. The female giants, reports Plutarch, "slew all that fled, some their husbands, some their brethren, others their fathers." With their hands they then throttled their little children and threw them under the racing wheels of retreating chariots or before the pounding hoofs of horses or draft animals. Then they killed themselves.13

Thus, yet another attempt by the fallen angels to destroy God´s own homo sapiens and rule the world had failed. The Gomerian giants, having failed in their mission to eradicate the lesser forms of humanity and conquer the world, then turned on and destroyed themselves, unable to bear the consequences of their failure. As we discussed in Part II, the giants had been bred in such a way to be natural bipolar schizophrenics, so that in order to maintain their sanity it was necessary for them to direct their inner anger outward, in the form of warfare. Thus bred, along with superior speed, size and strength, and given superior technology, the giants would have multiplied and spread like a virus, covering the entire Earth, attacking and killing everyone and who was not like them until, in the end, with everyone else dead, they would kill themselves. Fortunately, it was not to be. Having defeated the most powerful of the Gomerian Celtic giants, the Romans then began to perfect the fine art of giant killing, which they then applied aggressively in their campaigns against the giants throughout Europe. One by one the tribes of giants fell to the javelins, arrows, spears and stabbing swords of the relentless Roman legions, until the remnant was forced to flee into the dark forests of Europe, or to the fringes of civilization in Scandinavia, the British Isles, Ireland and even the Americas, where they integrated with the native populations and waited for their time to rise again.

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Olmec giants...
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As the Roman legionnaires entered the field, the great Cimbri army set itself into a motion that Plutarch likened to the billowing of a furious ocean at high tide. As was their custom, the bravest of the Cimbri, with blood-curdling yells, led the attack. so that their ranks might not be broken, those in the forefront bound themselves together with iron chains attached to their belts.


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The migrations of the Teutons and the Cimbri

The Cimbri were a people who lived in ancient Europe. There is debate as to whether they were a Celtic or Germanic people. More than 100 years before the birth of Christ, many of the Cimbri, as well as the Teutones, migrated south and west to the Danube valley, where they encountered the expanding Roman Empire. Another group of Cimbri may have migrated from Jutland along the Baltic Sea further east to what later become Prussia.

In 113 BC, the Cimbri and Teutones invaded the lands of one of Rome´s allies, the Taurisci, where they defeated a Roman army sent to defend the Taurisci. Continuing their migration southward and westward, some of the Cimbri passed through Gaul and into Spain, while others moved towards Italy. On their way, they picked up other allies among the resident Germanic and Celtic peoples. They came into frequent conflict with the Romans, who usually came out the losers. They defeated a Roman army under the consul Marcus Junius Silanus in 109 BC, an other Roman army under the consul Gaius Cassius Longinus, who was killed, at Burdigala (modern day Bordeaux). One of the greatest defeats the Romans ever suffered was at the hands of the Cimbri and their allies on October 6, 103 BC, when the proconsul Caepio and the consul Gn. Mallius Maximus lost as many as 80,000 men at the Battle of Arausio, not including the lost auxiliary cavalry and the non-combatants which would have made a total loss of about 112,000 men.

By 102 BC, those Cimbri who had been in Spain had returned to join with their former comrades in a movement towards Italy. The consul Marius led the campaigns against the Cimbri, whom his troops eventually destroyed at Vercellae and Aquae Sextiae.

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Battle of Arausio:

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The Battle of Arausio took place on October 6, 105 BC, between the town of Arausio and the Rhone River. Ranged against the migratory tribes of the Cimbri under Boiorix and the Teutoni were two Roman armies, commanded by the proconsul Quintus Servilius Caepio and consul Gnaeus Mallius Maximus. However, bitter differences between the commanders prevented the Roman armies from cooperating with devastating results. Roman losses are quoted at up to 80,000 troops, and many more servants and camp followers (total loss estimated at about 112,000 men). The terrible defeat gave Gaius Marius the opportunity to come to the fore and radically reform the organisation and recruitment of Roman legions.

The migrations of the Cimbri tribe through Gaul and adjacent territories had disturbed the balance of power and incited or provoked other tribes, such as the Helvetii into conlict with the Romans. An ambush of Roman troops and the temporary rebellion of the town of Tolosa caused Roman troops to mobilise in the area, with three strong forces.

Having regained Tolosa, the proconsul Quintus Servilius Caepio adopted a defensive strategy, waiting to see if the Cimbri would move toward Roman territories again. In October of 105 BC, they did.

Even before battle was joined, the Romans were in trouble. Two of the major Roman forces available were camped out on the Rhone River, near Arausio. However, the proconsul Caepio didn´t have much time for the consul commanding the other force. Gnaeus Mallius Maximus was a new man - not part of the established elite of Roman political life. As the current consul, he was also the superior of the two. Caepio took such exception that he camped his army on the opposite side of the river.

The initial contact between the two forces was when a detached picketing group under the legate Marcus Aurelius Scaurus(consul suffectus in 108 BC) met an advance party of the Cimbri. The Roman force was completely overwhelmed and the legate was brought before Boiorix. Scaurus was not humbled by his capture and advised Boiorix to turn back before his people were destroyed by the Roman forces. The king of the Cimbri was indignant at this impudence and had Scaurus executed by having him burned alive in a wicker cage.

Meanwhile, Maximus had managed to convince Caepio to move his force to the same side of the river, but Caepio still insisted on a different camp, and actually pitched his closer to the enemy. The sight of two Roman armies gave Boiorix pause for thought, and he entertained negotiations with Maximus.

Caepio, presumably motivated into action by the thought that Maximus may be successful in negotiations and claim all the credit for a successful outcome, launched a unilateral attack on the camp on October 6. Due to the hasty nature of the assault, and the tenacity of the Cimbri, Caepio´s force was annihilated. His camp had been left pratically undefended, so the Cimbri ransacked that also.

With a great boost in confidence from an easy victory, the Cimbri then proceeded to destroy the force commanded by Maximus. Already at a low ebb due to the infighting of the commanders, this Roman force had also witnessed the complete destruction of their colleagues. In other circumstances the army might have fled, but the poor positioning of the camp left them with their backs to the river. Many tried to escape in that direction, but legionaries of the time were not known for their prowess at swimming, and certainly not when encumbered. Certainly, the number of Romans who managed to escape were very few. This included the servants and camp followers, who usually numbered at least half as many again as the actual troops. Livy puts the total Roman legionaries killed at 80,000.

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More than 100 years before the birth of Christ, many of the Cimbri, as well as the Teutones, migrated south and west to the Danube valley, where they encountered the expanding Roman Empire.

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This entry is about the Teutonic people, not to be confused with the Teutonic Knights.

The migrations of the Teutons and the CimbriThe Teutons (Teutones) were mentioned as a Germanic people in early historical writings by Greek and Roman authors. According to Ptolemy´s map, they lived on Jutland, whereas Pomponius Mela placed them in Scandinavia (Codanonia)[1].

There is debate as to whether they were a Celtic or Germanic people since the name Teutones itself appears to be Celtic; Strabo and Velleius, however, counted them among the Germanic tribes. German historians did not associate the name Teutons with their Germanic ancestors until the 13th century.

More than 100 years before the birth of Christ, many of the Teutones, as well as the Cimbri, migrated south and west to the Danube valley, where they encountered the expanding Roman Empire.

During the late 2nd century BC, the Teutons are recorded as marching south through Gaul along with their neighbors, the Cimbri, and attacking Roman Italy. After several victories for the invading armies, the Cimbri and Teutones were then defeated by Marius in 102 BC at the Battle of Aquae Sextiae (near present-day Aix-en-Provence).

The terms "Teuton" and "Teutonic" have sometimes been used in reference to all of the Germanic peoples. "Teut-" is a western Indo-European word root meaning "people," and is not only found in German deutsch (= "German") and Old Norse thjod "people," but also in the Romance word for "all" (as in Latin totum, French tout, and Spanish todo). It is therefore sometimes used as a synonym of proto-Germanic. Also note the Irish and Scottish Gaelic word for "people," tuath.

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German historians did not associate the name Teutons with their Germanic ancestors until the 13th century.

Teutonic Knights:

The Teutonic Order (German: Deutscher Orden; Latin: Ordo domus Sanctæ Mariæ Theutonicorum; Hungarian: Német Lovagrend-German Knighthood) was a German crusading military order under Roman Catholic religious vows formed at the end of the 12th century in Acre in Palestine. They wore white coats with a black cross. After Christian forces were defeated in the Middle East, they moved to Transylvania in 1211, but were expelled in 1225. The knights moved to northern Poland, where they soon created the independent Teutonic Order state. The aggression of the Order posed a threat to the neighbouring states, especially Poland and Lithuania. In 1410 at the Battle of Grunwald (Tannenberg), a Polish-Lithuanian army decisively defeated the Order and broke its military power. The power of the Order steadily declined until 1525 when its Grand Master, Albert of Brandenburg, converted to Lutheranism and assumed the title and rights of hereditary Duke of Prussia. The Grand Masters continued to preside over the Order´s considerable holdings in Germany until 1809, when Napoleon ordered its dissolution and the Order lost its last secular holdings. However, the order continued to exist, headed by Habsburgs through the First World War, and today operates primarily with charitable aims.

The order was formed at the end of the 12th century in Palestine to give medical aid to pilgrims at the holy places. They received Papal orders for crusades to take and hold Jerusalem for Latin Christianity. They were based at Acre (Akko). When the mission of the order in Palestine was nearing its end, the Teutonic Knights moved their headquarter to Venice and offered their services to Christian rulers confronted with hostile non-Christian neighbors. In 1211, Andrew II of Hungary accepted their services and granted them the district of Burzenland in Transylvania. Andrew had been involved in negotiations for the marriage of his daughter with the son of Hermann, the Landgrave of Thuringia, whose vassals included the family of Hermann of Salza, the new grand master of the Teutonic Order. Led by a brother called Theoderich, the Order defended Hungary against the neighbouring Cumans. In 1224 they petitioned Pope Honorius III to be placed directly under the authority of the Papal See, rather than of the King of Hungary. King Andrew responded by expelling them in 1225.

At that time Konrad I, duke of Masovia in west-central Poland, appealed to the Knights to defend his borders and subdue the pagan Baltic Prussians. He gave the Order the Che&#322;mno Land (Kulmerland) as a fief (1226) for the time until the conquest was over. Soon the Teutonic knights assimilated the smaller Order of Dobrin. The conquest of Prussia was accomplished with great bloodshed over more than 50 years, during which the Prussians were subjugated and forced to adopt Christianity. Eventually the Order transferred its headquarters to the brick castle of Malbork (Marienburg) on the Nogat River south of Gda&#324;sk (Danzig). The Order did not conquer Prussia in order to incorporate it into Poland, but instead ruled it under permits issued by both the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor as a sovereign Teutonic Order state, comparable to the arrangement of the Knights Hospitallers in Rhodes and later in Malta.

The Order induced the immigration of thousands of colonists from Germany and the Netherlands, founded numerous towns and cities, and built a number of castles (Order Castles (Ordensburgen in German)), to defend the territory against attacks from Lithuania and Poland, with whom the Order was often at war during the 14th and 15th centuries. Among the cities of the Order was Königsberg (now Kaliningrad), founded in 1255 in honor of King Otakar II of Bohemia. Many knights from western Europe, including some from England and France, journeyed to Prussia to participate in the wars with Lithuania, which remained non-Christian until the end of the 14th century, much later than the rest of eastern Europe.

When the Livonian Order was absorbed into the Teutonic Order in 1237, its territorial rule extended over Prussia, Livonia, Semigalia, and Estonia. Their next aim was to convert Orthodox Russia to Roman Catholicism, but that idea had to be dropped in the wake of the disastrous Battle on Lake Peipus (1242).

The crusading rationale for the Teutonic Order´s state finally ended when Lithuania officially converted to Christianity after 1386. The grand duke of Lithuania, Jogaila, was baptised, married the queen of Poland Jadwiga, and became king Ladislaus II of Poland. This initiated an alliance between the two countries and created a formidable opponent for the Teutonic Knights.

King Albert of Sweden conceded Gotlandia to the Teutonic Order as a pledge (similar to a fiefdom), with the understanding that they would eliminate the piratical Victual Brothers from their strategic island base. An invasion force under Grand Master Konrad of Jungingen conquered the island in 1398, destroyed Visby and drove the Victual Brothers out of Gotland and the Baltic Sea.

In 1410 at the Battle of Grunwald (also known as the battle of Tannenberg), a Polish-Lithuanian army decisively defeated the Order and broke its military power. The Grand Master, Ulrich von Jungingen, and most of the Order´s higher dignitaries fell on the battlefield. The Polish-Lithuanian army then besieged the capital of the Order, Marienburg (Malbork) castle, but was unable to take it. When peace was made, the Order managed to retain essentially all of its territories.

In 1454 gentry and the burghers of western Prussia rose up against the Order in the "War of the Cities" or Thirteen Year War, at the end of which the Order recognized Polish crown rights over Prussia´s western half (subsequently Royal Prussia) while retaining eastern Prussia under nominal Polish overlordship (Second Treaty of Thorn, 1466). Eastern Prussia (subsequently Ducal Prussia) was also lost to the Order when in 1525 its grand master, Albert of Brandenburg, converted to Lutheranism and assumed the title and rights of hereditary Duke of Prussia.

A new Grand Magistery was then established in Mergentheim in Württemberg, and the grand masters, often members of the great German families (and, after 1761, by members of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine), continued to preside over the Order´s considerable holdings in Germany until 1809, when Napoleon ordered its dissolution and the Order lost its last secular holdings.

The order continued to exist, headed by Habsburgs through the First World War, and today operates primarily as a charitable organization.

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"Hitler spoke of Heinrich Himmler, commander-in-chief of the SS, as ´my Ignatius Loyola´....In many respects, the SS was indeed modeled on the Jesuits, and made deliberate use of Jesuit techniques in such spheres as psychological conditioning and education. But the Jesuits themselves had derived much of their structure and organization from the still older military-religious-chivalric orders like the Knights Templar and the Teutonic Knights (Deutschritter)."

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The swastika, for long time a symbol of the Teutonic Knights, had been in use by Lanz von Liebenfels, [4] the Thule Society [5] and a number of Freikorps units.

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Lanz von Liebenfels and the Teutonic Knights:

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What we see above is a direct trail of the fallen angels to the Nazis... enough material to show you the intellectual route to take if you wish to document in detail...

Now, know that Bush is a Nazi. The NeoCons are Nazis. This is no exaggeration.

The fallen angels are in charge... WAKE UP!!! The War of the Worlds is in progress even now.
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The Illuminati Exposed
Mysterious Beginnings
(1) Islamic Parallels

"Sufi historian Indries Shah traces the name of the Illuminati back to a verse in the Koran which mentions a shining star..."
- Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger

"The term ´Illuminati´ was used by one early writer, Menendez Pelayo, as early as 1492 and is attributable to a group known as the ´Alumbrados´ of Spain. The Alumbrados were said to receive secret knowledge from an unknown higher source, resulting in superior human intelligence. This group was condemned by an edict of the Grand Inquisition in 1623..."

"Some writers claim that a group know as the ´Illuminated Ones´ was founded by Joachim of Floris in the eleventh century and taught a primitive, supposedly Christian doctrine of ´poverty and equality´."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"The sixteenth century saw the rise of a powerful society based upon a secret cult, in the mountains of Afghanistan - the Roshaniya, Illuminated ones."

"The earliest figure named in the history of the cult is one Bayezid Ansari, of Afghanistan, whose family claimed descent from the Ansar - the ´Helpers´, who assisted Mohammed after his flight from Mecca nearly fourteen hundred years ago. As a reward for this service, he stated, his ancestors had been granted initiation into the mysteries of the Ishmaelite religion: the secret, inner training which dated from Abraham´s rebuilding of the Temple at Mecca, the mystical Hiram."

"Not far from Peshawar, which is now in the north-west of Pakistan, Bayezid set up a small school, where he carefully coached those who had been initiated by him in the knowledge of the supernatural that he claimed. A period of probation was expected from each candidate, during which he would to into periods of concealment or meditation, known as khilwat - silence. During this time he was to receive the illumination which was emanated from the supreme being, who desired a class of perfect men- and women- to carry out the organization and direction of the world."

Merchants and soldiers "contributed lavishly to the chief´s upkeep and his most expensive military, political and espionage system." At this stage of success, Bayezid now preached that there was "no after-life of the kind currently believed in: no reward or punishment, only a spirit state which was completely different from earthly life. The spirits, if they belonged to the Order, could continue to enjoy themselves and be earthly powers, acting through living members....Eat, drink and be merry. Gain power, look after yourself. You have no allegiance except to the Order, he told them: and all humanity which cannot identify itself by our secret sign is our lawful prey."

"Forty years after the last religio-military leader of the Afghan Illuminate Ones died, a society of the same name (the Illuminati) came into being in Germany, formed, it is said, by Adam Weishaupt, the young professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University. Coincidences of date and beliefs connect these Bavarian Illuminati with the Afghan ones, and also with other cults which called themselves ´Illuminated´."
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies

One of my correspondents has pointed out that in Mary Shelly´s novel Frankenstein, Victor Frankenstein was also in Ingoldstatdt around 1790 creating his famous monster. "Coincidence...or was there something Mary Shelly was trying to tell us?"


(2) Adam Weishaupt

"Rather than obey the dictates of the real, and adjust himself to his reduced limits, late eighteenth-century man took refuge among phantoms; satisfying his nostalgia with the marvels offered by impostors and necromancers, he fled matter and denied its existence....A whole culture was collapsing."
- A. Viatte, Les Sources occultes du Romantisme: Illuminisme-Theosophie 1770-1820

Adam Weishaupt "adopted the teachings of radical French philosophers such as Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) and the anti-Christian doctrines of the Manicheans. He was indoctrinated in Egyptian occultism in 1771 by a merchant of unknown origin named Kolmer, who was said to have traveled Europe in search of converts."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"Brilliant and well trained by the Jesuits in the conspiratorial methods of access to power, young Weishaupt decided to organize a body of conspirators, determined to free the world from the Jesuitical rule of Rome and help humanity back to the pristine Christian faith of the hermetic martyrs. He is reputed to have been initiated by a German merchant named Kolmer, he had spent many years in Egypt, into a secret doctrine based on Manichaeism. Mayday of 1776, Weishaupt founded his own sect of the Very Perfectibles - better known as the Illuminati - with five original members, self-described as reformist libertarians, partisans of absolute equality."
- Peter Tompkins, The Magic of Obelisks

"Adam Weishaupt, Professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt, conceived the idea of founding an order which, by mutual helpfulness, counsel, and philosophic discussions, would increase morality and virtue, lay the foundation for the reformation of the world, and oppose the progress of evil, all of which objectives were expressed in the name, ´Order of Perfectibilists´ or ´Perfectionists´, which was soon changed to ´Illuminati´, which is best translated as ´intellectually inspired´. Modesty and humility seems to have been no trait of Weishaupt, for he was one of the first to attempt to fly with little knowledge of human aerodynamics. His ambition outweighed his judgement; his ideals were too refined for a rude world. Like many other promoters, Weishaupt sought the aid of Freemasonry to give his machine both propulsion and ballast. But it dragged Freemasonry down without helping Illuminism very much. He was too shrewd and subtle for his own good, though such qualities gave him headway for a time. Although he formerly belonged to the Jesuits, he secured admission to a lodge of Freemasons in 1777. Ironically, that was named ´Lodge of Caution´."

"We are not informed as to just how Weishaupt became associated with Adolph Franz Friedrich Ludwid Baron Von Knigge, for the latter lived in North Germany, was of the nobility, and, after his initiation in 1773, showed little interest in Freemasonry. But noblemen were found in abundance in the most fraudulent orders in Germany claiming some Masonic connections. Weishaupt, in 1780, dispatched the Marquis de Costanzo to propagate Illuminism in the north and Knigge probably then first showed interest in the society. He became more and more enthusiastic as the plan was revealed to him, and, in 1781, accepted the invitation to visit Bavaria and receive full access to all of Weishaupt´s materials. Knigge not only completed the scale of degrees but became a proponent of them, bringing to his aid the assistance of Johann J. C. Bode, a prominent German Mason. The order was at first very popular and attracted, it is said, some of the best men in Germany and some of the worst. It had 2000 names on its rolls and spread to France, Belgium, Holland, Denamrk, Sweden, Poland, Hungary, and Italy."
- Henry Wilson Coil, Coil´s Masonic Encyclopedia, 1961

"Unable in Catholic Bavaria to achieve this utopian goal by direct means, Weishaupt determined to work from within an existing organization: the Masonic order....By 1779, there were 54 members of the Illuminati, mostly young noblemen and clergymen, established in four Bavarian cities. Thereafter, with the help of a Masonic bookseller, Johann Bode, the order branched out through Southern Germany and Austria, and down into France and Northern Italy, intellectuals, such as Goethe, Schiller, Mozart, and Herder were attracted."
- Peter Tompkins, The Magic of Obelisks

"Knigge, especially, was a highly religious and intellectual man and would have had nothing to do with that or any other order which was anti-Christian, yet, the vicious attacks and accusations by Baruel and Robison had great influence, and it was even charged that the Illuminati were themselves agents of the Jesuits, though the latter were opposing it in their usual secret manner. The Illuminati were extremely secretive, even identifying themselves and their chapters by assumed classical names; for examples, Weishaupt was Spartacus, Knigge was Philo, Ingolstadt, the headquarters, was Eleusis, Austria was Egypt, etc. Dates were given in a sort of cryptography."
- Henry Wilson Coil, Coil´s Masonic Encyclopedia, 1961

Thomas Jefferson "strenuously defended the Illuminati, and described Weishaupt as ´an enthusiastic philanthropist´."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot and priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, and the principles of pure morality. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment....If Weishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise and virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The Illuminati were finally beset by both internal and external disorders, for Weishaupt found fault with some of Knigge´s ritualistic work and peremptorily ordered it changed, whereupon, Knigge became disgusted and resigned in 1784. The Jesuits had fought it from the first and eventually all priests became its active enemies and raised so much opposition that the Elector of Bavaria supressed the Order by edict, June 22, 1784, many Illuminati being imprisoned and some, including Weishaupt, being forced to flee the country. Though the first edict had been obeyed, it was repeated in March and August, 1785. Not only Illuminism, but Freemasonry was exterminated in Bavaria and neither ever recovered its former position. The Illuminati seem to have completely disappeared everywhere by the end of the 18th century."
- Henry Wilson Coil, Coil´s Masonic Encyclopedia, 1961

"The suppression of the Illuminati of Bavaria in 1785 created a tremendous furor whose echoes reached as far as New England, drawing George Washington out in support of the suspect American Freemasons. In fact the Illuminati proved to be the unwilling occasion for the birth of modern conspiracy theory. Wildly exaggerated accounts of their supposed wickedness and of the imminent peril which they represented for society were published in a great epidemic of pamphlets. Their secrecy, their insistence on recruitment of important civil servants, their concealment of the true aims of the society from all but a few highly placed initiates, combined to make them into the bogeymen not only of the German conservatives but of a wider European public. Four years later, when the French Revolution broke out, the mythical beliefs about the Illuminati of Bavaria were incorporated in a vaster and wilder conspiracy theory, which found room also for the Templars."
- Peter Partner, The Murdered Magicians

"What is today called the conspiracy theory was born in the flood tide of books, pamphlets, and articles denouncing the Illuminati and linking them to an ever-lengthening list of other supposed plotters. The scope of the accusations is reflected in the title of one anti-Illuminati book, published in 1797: Proofs of a Conspiracy against All the Religions and Governments of Europe, Carried On in the Secret Meetings of Free Masons, Illuminati, and reading Societies, Collected from Good Authorities....The 170-year-old Proofs of a Conspiracy was reissued in 1967 by the John Birch Society, which apparently considered the Illuminati a clear and present danger."
- Ancient Wisdom and Secret Sects


(3) Rites of the Illuminati

"The aristocratic mumbo-jumbo of the Templar lodges pandered to the confused conservatism of the German nobles and ad a great deal in common with the mumbo-jumbo of the Rosicrucians, to whose ideas the Illuminati were absolutely opposed. The Bavarian Illuminati were an austere emanation of the spirit of the German Professorate, inspired by a consciously bourgeois program, irreligious and radical."
- Peter Partner, The Murdered Magicians

"The ceremonies were divided into three principal classes and those into degrees as follows:

I- The Nursery
1. Preparatory Literary Essay
2. Novitiate
3. Minerval
4. Minor Illuminatus
5. Magistratus

II- Symbolic Freemasonry
1. Apprentice
2. Fellow Craft
3. Master
4.(a) Scots Major Illuminatus
..(b) Scots Illuminatus Dirigens (Directory)

III- Mysteries
1. Lesser
(a) Presbyter, Priest, or Epopt
(b) Prince or Regent
2. Greater
(a) Magus
(b) Rex or King (some of these latter degrees were never completed)"

- Henry Wilson Coil, Coil´s Masonic Encyclopedia, 1961

"Status as a Mason was not required for initiation into the Order of Illuminati since the fourth, fifth and sixth degrees of Weishaupt and Baron Von Knogge´s system practically duplicated the three degrees of symbolic Freemasonry. Although Knigge claimed to have a system of ten degrees, the last two appear never to have been fully worked up."
- Jeff_Jorczak@vos.stratus.com

"Openly political and antimonarchial, Weishaupt´s ´Illuminati´ formed another channel of ´higher degrees´ for Freemasons to graduate into after completing the Blue Degrees. Weishaupt´s ´Illuminati´ had its own ´hidden master´ known as the ´Ancient Scot Superior´.
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"In the lower ranks - the ´nursery´ - the member was very much in the dark as to the way in which the Order was run, and how it should accomplish its design of freeing the world. As he progressed, however, he found that a part of his service to the Society was to gain financial and social power, and to place them at the disposal of the group. He was expected to be a diligent Mason, and to try to gain control over Masonic funds. It was not until the tenth rite of promotion had been completed that the member was given - with the grade of Priest - certain definite knowledge. This included the fact that the Illuminati were proposing to destroy princes and prelates throughout the world, and were to remove forever the feeling of local nationality from the minds of men. The ways in which this was to be done involved infiltrating high positions in education, administration and the Press.

"The very highest degrees showed that the rationalism and materialism of the thinkers who developed it were determined to stamp out belief in religion. God and any faith in a deity, the initiate was told, were human inventions, and had no real meaning. Subsequently this was developed further, and the member who arrived at the highest position (that of Rex, King) learned that he was now equal to a king, and that all men were capable of equal advancement; hence the need for kings over ordinary mortals was an illusion."
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies

Revenge of the Templars?
(1) Threads of Conspiracy

"After their recent exposures in Bavaria, The Illuminati had been driven even further underground, taking on a variety of names, such as The French Revolutionary Club. As radicals flocked into these new varieties of Illuminism, a larger meeting hall was needed. The Hall of the Jacobins Convent was leased, and it was from this hall that they eventually derived their new name, the Jacobin Club.

"The Jacobin Club met in secret and eventually boasted of having some of the best-educated and most influential men in France among its 1,300 members. The Jacobins vowed to destroy the monarchy, as well as other existing institutions, and sought to establish what they called a ´New World Order´, or ´Universal Republic´."

"The famous magician and occultist, Cagliostro, was initiated into the Illuminati in 1783. Many years later, he told Catholic priests about his initiation. The initiation took place in an underground room near Frankfort, Germany."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"An iron box filled with papers was opened. The introducers took from it a manuscript book [which] on the first page...read: ´We, Grand Masters of the Templars...´then followed a form of oath, traced in blood. The book stated that Illuminism was a conspiracy directed against thrones and altars, and that the first blows were to attain France, that after the fall of the French Monarchy, Rome must be attacked."

"By March, 1789, the 266 lodges controlled by the [French] Grand Orient were all ´illuminized´ without knowing it, for the Freemasons in general, were not told the name of the sect that brought them these mysteries, and only a very small number were really initiated into the secret....In the following month the Revolution broke out."
- Cagliostro (Nesta H. Wesbster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements}

"Cagliostro was the Agent of the Templars, and therefore wrote to the Freemasons of London that the time had come to begin the work of re-building the Temple of the Eternal. He had introduced into Masonry a new Rite called the Egyptian, and endeavored to resuscitate the mysterious worship of Isis. The three letters ´l. P. D.´ on his seal, were the initials of the words ´Lilia pedibus destrue´, ´tread under foot the Lilies [of France]´, and a Masonic medal of the sixteenth or seventeenth century has upon it a sword cutting off the stalk of a lily, and the words ´talem dabit ultio messem´, ´such harvest revenge will give´."
- General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma

"In his Mémoires pour servir æ l´histoire du Jacobinisme published in three volumes from 1797 to 1798, Barruel [a Jesuit scholar] derived all evils from Mani and the Manicheans and demonstrated the existence of a continuous historical conspiracy."
- Edward Burman, The Assassins - Holy Killers of Islam

"In the minds of Barruel and Cadet de Gassicourt [Le Tombeau de Jacques de Molay] there was in invincible belief in a continuous historical conspiracy, through which anarchist beliefs had passed from the medieval heretics in the west and the Assassins in the east to the Templars and thence through the four Templar lodges which were set up after the death of Jacques de Molay in 1314."
- Peter Partner, The Murdered Magicians - The Templars and their Myth

"All revolutionaries and murderers since then had been part of a single ´Templar´ society - including Cromwell, the murderer of Henry IV of France, conspirators in Portugal, Brazil and Sweden, and of course Robespierre and Danton."
- Edward Burman, The Assassins - Holy Killers of Islam

Eliphas Levi claimed that the French Revolution represented the Templars´ revenge for the persecution they had suffered in the thirteenth century."
- David Conway, Ritual Magic

"A Lodge inaugurated under the auspices of Rousseau, the fanatic of Geneva became the center of the revolutionary movement in France, and a Prince of the blood-royal went thither to swear the destruction of the successors of Phillipe le Bel on the tomb Jacques de Molai. The registers of the Order of Templars attest that the Regent, the Duc d´Orleans, was Grand Master of that formidable Secret Society, and that his successors were the Duc de Maine, the Prince of Bourbon-Condé and the Duc de Crossé-Brissace."
"It was impossible to unfold to the people the conspiracy of the Templars against the Thrones and the Tiara...[To do so] would have been to initiate the multitude into the secrets of the Masters, and to have uplifted the veil of Isis."

"When Louis XVI was executed, half the work was done; and thenceforth the Army of the Temple was to direct all its efforts against the Pope."
- General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma


(2) The Reign of Terror

"In the spring and summer of 1789, an artificial shortage of grain was created by Illuminist manipulations of the grain market. This produced a famine so intense that it brought the nation to the edge of revolt. One of the leading figures in this scheme was the Duc d´Orleans, the grand Master of the grand Orient lodges. The Illuminatists claimed that their revolution would be ´for the benefit of the bourgeoisie with the people as instruments...´ but in reality the conspirators held up the food supplies and blocked all reforms in the National Assembly to exacerbate the situation, and the populace starved.

"By July 14, the Bastille was stormed, from which a grand total of only seven prisoners were ´liberated´. Even French historians now acknowledge that the purpose of the revolutionaries was not to destroy the Bastille or liberate the prisoners, but to steal arms and gunpowder. Thus armed, on July 22, 1789, the Jacobins set into motion one of the most elaborately timed revolutionary exercises ever attempted. It would later be known as ´The great Fear´.

"A panic was created simultaneously around the nation. Horsemen rode from town to town telling the citizens that ´brigands´ were approaching and that everyone should take up arms. Citizens were instructed that the conspirators were being harbored in the larger estates, the chateaux, and that by edict of the King all should be torched. The people, obedient to their monarch, complied. Soon, the flames of destruction were soon burning out of control. Anarchy continued to grow as citizens began raiding and pillaging - and not only for food."
- William T. Still, New World Order

With the overthrow of the monarchy in 1792, "from the 10th of August onwards, we find the tricolor replaced by the red flag of the social revolution, whilst the cry of ´Vive notre roi d´Orleans!´ gives way to the masonic watchword ´Liberty, Equality, Fraternity."
- Nesta H. Wesbster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements

"Terror was rampant in the streets of Paris....In November 1793 a campaign against religion was inaugurated by a massacre of the priests all over France. In the cemeteries the cherished motto of the Illuminati, ´Death is an eternal sleep´, was posted by the order of the Illuminatus ´Anaxagoras´ Chaumette. In the churches of Paris, Feasts of Reason were celebrated where women of easy morals were enthroned as goddesses. These were also known as ´Exoterion´, and were modeled on Weishaupt´s plan to honor the god of Love."

"In 1791, after returning to the United States from a three-year stint as minister to France, he [Thomas Jefferson] described the carnage as ´so beautiful a revolution´ and stated that he hoped it would sweep the world. He claimed to believe that ´most Frenchmen were Jacobins. Their excesses, if one called them such, reflected that national will."

"By 1793, much of France lay in ruin. Industries were decimated, libraries burned, the bourgeoisie all but wiped out. Even the great chemist Lavoisier had been guillotined on the excuse that ´the Republic has no need of chemists´."

"Toward the end of 1793, the new revolutionary Republic found itself faced with hundreds of thousands of working men for whom it could not find employment. The revolutionary leaders embarked upon a fearful new project that was to be copied by tyrants ever after, called ´depopulation´.

"The idea was to reduce France´s population of twenty-five million down to either eight or sixteen million, depending on which source you believe. Maximilien Robespierre believed depopulation to be ´indispensable´."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"The system of the Terror was thus the answer to the problem of unemployment - unemployment brought about on a vast scale by the destruction of the luxury trades."
- Nesta H. Wesbster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements

"In France members of the revolutionary committees in charge of the extermination toiled day and night over maps, calculating just how many heads must be sacrificed in each town. Fearful Revolutionary Tribunals tried to determine who would be killed, and a never-ending stream of victims marched to a variety of deaths. In Nantes, 500 children were killed in one butchery, and 144 poor women who sewed shirts for the army were thrown into the river."
"...Estimates of the final death toll at the time ran around 300,000."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"I have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam & Eve left in every country, & left free, it would be better than it now is...The liberty of the whole earth was depending on the issue of the contest."
- Thomas Jefferson



The Communist Machines
(1) Precursors in the Carbonari

"It has been said that the European version of the Order of the Illuminati contributed in no small measure to the development of revolutionary doctrines which eventually culminated in the Russian and other Communist Machines."
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies

"...As soon as, perhaps sooner than Weishaupt had passed away, the supreme government of all the Secret Societies of the world was exercised by the Alta Vendita or highest lodge of the Italian Carbonari. The Alta Vendita ruled the blackest Freemasonry of France, German, and England; and until Mazzini wrenched the scepter of the dark Empire from that body, it continued with consummate ability to direct the revolutions of Europe."
- Mgr. George E. Dillon, D.D., Grand Orient Freemasonry, Unmasked as the Secret Power Behind Communism

In 1816, Charles Nodier, an alleged Grand Master of the Priory of Sion, "published anonymously one of his most curious and influential works, A History of Secret Societies in the Army under Napoleon...It develops a comprehensive philosophy of secret societies. And it credits such societies with a number of historical accomplishments, including the downfall of Napoleon."
- Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail

"In the early nineteenth century, certain figures - Charles Nodier, for example...and Filippo Buonarroti, a master conspirator who was much admired by such men as Bakunin - make a point of inventing, and disseminating information about a number of wholly fictitious secret societies. So convincing was this information that perfectly innocent people found themselves being harried and persecuted for alleged membership of clandestine organizations that did not exist. Confronted by such persecution, the victims, as a means of self-defense, began to form themselves into a real secret society which conformed to the blueprint of the fictitious one."
- Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy

According to the Carbonari, or "charcoal-burners", the history of this organization started in Scotland as happy democratic mystics. "For the purpose of avoiding suspicion of ulterior motives, they took to charcoal-burning, which is described as the industry par excellence of Scotland." Francis I, King of France, was supposedly admitted to the Order. "When he went back to France, he scrupulously fulfilled his undertaking, declaring himself Protector of the Carbonari, and he increased their numbers. The Order now spread through Germany, France and England."

"It has been said by some historians that the inspiration of the Carbonari and similar societies came from pre-Christian times, for there were settled in the Alps communities which seemed to owe allegiance to Gnostic and other ideas which some profess to see reflected in Freemasonry, Templarism and the discipleship of the way of the Sufis."

"The Italian patriots Garibaldi, Mazzini and Cavour revived the secret society after 1830, and its members were again found to be ready for any sacrifice for republicanism and rule by the Carbonari. The effect which they had upon the world was considerable: and it continued to be so. For fifty years they had fought in civil war; they spread to many other lands, including Germany, where they were responsible for the Totenbund (the Death League) which was dedicated to assassinating tyrants.)
- Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies


(2) The Palladian Rite Hoax

"In 1870, Mazzini and Pike reached an agreement for the creation of the new supreme rite, to be called the New and Reformed Palladian Rite. Pike was to be called the Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, and Mazzini was to be called Sovereign Chief of Political Action. Pike was to draw up the statutes and grades."
- William T. Still, New World Order

"No mention of it would ever be made in the assemblies of the Lodges and Inner Shrines of other rites...for the secret of the new institution was only to be divulged with the greatest caution to a chosen few belonging to the ordinary high grades.
"Palladism is essentially a Luciferian rite. Its religion in Manichean new-gnosticism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that Lucifer is the equal of Adonay. The whole masonic world was set up at Charleston, the sacred city of the Palladium."
- Edith Star Miller, Occult Theocracy

"If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty...and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black.
"That is why the intelligent disciples of Zoroaster, as well as, after them, the Gnostics, the Manicheans and the Templars have admitted, as the only logical metaphysical conception, the system of the two divine principles fighting eternally, and one cannot believe the one inferior in power to the other. Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."
- Gen. Albert Pike, "Instructions"

"In the 1880s,there was a Parisian publisher named Leo Taxil who was famous for his scurrilous anti- Catholic tracts. Then one morning he proclaimed his conversion to Catholicism. Shortly thereafter, he declared that he had unearthed the doings of the Satanic Masonic sect called the Paladins. He began publishing the memoirs of a woman named Sophia Walden, who claimed to have left the order. For two years this fed into an anti-Masonic hysteria in Europe, and there was even a Papal Benediction given to Sophia Walden, whom no one had even met. After a few years, Taxil broke down and confessed that he´d made it all up. It´s interesting that one hundred years ago, you also saw nativist stories in the United States about Masons, Catholics and Mormons who were allegedly kidnapping children and holding them as slaves. And a hundred years later, we seem to be experiencing more of the same."
- Gerry O´Sullivan, Satanism in America

"In many anti-Masonic books you´ll see what is supposed to be a quotation from Pike, saying that all Masons of the ´Higher Degrees´ are secret worshipers of Lucifer. The historical fact is that those words were written in 1894, three years after Pike´s death. They were written by a notorious atheist and pornographer named Gabriel Jogand-Pages who was better known by his pen name, Leo Taxil. Taxil was engaged in an elaborate hoax to discredit the Church of Rome and made up the Pike quotation out of thin air.

"His purpose was to show that the Church had failed to recognize the ´threat´ posed by Freemasonry and was, therefore, headed by fools and incompetents. Taxil publicly admitted the hoax in 1897, but it had already been published by a man named Abel Clarin de la Rive, who took Taxil´s hoax at face value.

"Rive´s book, La Femme et l´Enfant dans la Franc-Maconnerie Universelle (Woman and Child in Universal Freemasonry), was quoted by Edith Starr Miller in 1933 in her book Occult Theocrasy. She translated the ´quotation´ into English.

"Since that time, several writers of anti-Masonic books have simply repeated the ´quotation´ without checking on its source or authenticity. Taxil´s public confession notwithstanding, the lie continues to shadow the name of Pike, who was, to his death, an Episcopalian Christian."
- Jim Tresner, "Conscience and The Craft"


(3) The Russian Revolution

The February 1917 Revolution was provoked by Freemasons and was operated from the few masonic Lodges left after decades of persecution from Tsarist Secret Police. Alexander Kerensky, Justice Minister in the provisional government of Prince Georgi Yevegenievich Lvov, was a Freemason. After the Petrograd uprising in July 1917 which led to the resignation of Lvov, Kerensky took over as Prime Minister and appointed exclusively Masons to the government."
- Stephen Knight, The Brotherhood

"In its organization, in its techniques for recruitment, in its means of eliciting loyalty from its adherents, in its Messianic urgency, Lenin´s revolutionary party structure derives directly from Bakunin, as Lenin himself acknowledges in his notebooks. But for Bakunin, revolution was more than a social and political phenomenon. It was ultimately cosmic, theological, religious in character. Having spent more than twenty years working his way up through the ranks of Freemasonry, Bakunin had acquired a metaphysical philosophical framework for his social and political ideas. Bakunin was a self-proclaimed Satanist. According to one commentator, he saw Satan ´as the spiritual had of revolutionaries, the true author of human liberation´. Satan was not only the supreme rebel, but also the supreme freedom-fighter against the tyrannical God of Judaism and Christianity. The established institutions of church and state were instruments of the oppressive Judaeo-Christian God, and according to Bakunin it was a moral, and theological obligation to oppose them. Although Lenin himself never explicitly indulged in any such cosmological conceptions, there is no question that he recognized their utility."
- Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy

Bakunin and Lenin "were both apocalyptic zealots, while their Marxist rivals...were - in comparison - Pharisees."
- A.P. Mendel, Michael Bakunin: Roots of Apocalypse


Nazi Cult Beliefs

(1) The Stein Affair - Fact or Fiction?
"During his young adulthood before rising to power, Hitler lived in Vienna. One of Hitler´s friends, during that period was Walter Johannes Stein. During World War II, Dr. Stein became an advisor to England´s Prime Minister, Sir Winston Churchill."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"A number of people who intimately knew Walter Johannes Stein in the last years of his life state that Stein never met Hitler." - Christoph Lindenberg in the German journal Die Drie

"...It was through buying a copy of Eschenbach´s Parsival that had once belonged to Hitler that Dr Stein met him. Dr Stein was impressed by the meticulousness of the marginal notes, though simultaneously appalled by the pathological race hatred that they showed.
- Frank Smyth in The Occult Connection

"This was no ordinary commentary but the work of somebody who had achieved more than a working knowledge of the black arts! The unknown commentator had found the key to unveiling many of the deepest secrets of the Grail, yet obviously spurned the Christian ideals of the Knights and delighted in the devious machinations of the Anti-Christ. It suddenly dawned on him that he was reading the footnotes of Satan!"
- Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear of Destiny

"The fictional nature of the whole episode surrounding the annotated copy of copy of Parzival is suggested by the similarity of Pretzsche´s obscure bookshop to the one described by Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton in Zanoni (1842), which probably served Ravenscroft as a literary model." - Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, The Modern Mythology of Nazi Occultism

"Among them [the marginal notes] appeared numerous references to the character Klingsor, whom Hitler apparently identified with the notorious ninth-century tyrant Landuph II of Capua.

"Landulph´s avaricious grasping for power had led him to study the black arts, and it was for these practices that he was excommunicated in AD 875. But one other fact must have given Hitler a sense of identity with the ninth-century ´Fuhrer´. Landulph seems to have been either partly or totally castrated: Eschenbach described him as ´the man who was smooth between the legs´."
- Frank Smyth in The Occult Connection

According to Ravenscroft, "Hitler took Dr. Stein up the Danube to visit his mystic teacher, a rustic woodcutter and herbalist named Hans Lodz ´who retained in his peasant´s blood the last traces of the atavistic clairvoyance of the ancient Germanic tribes´ and who ´resembled a
mischievous yet malevolent dwarf from the pages of Grimm´s Fairy Tales or an illustration from a book on ancient Germanic folklore´. The men took a swim in the river at which Dr. Stein noticed that Hitler had only one testicle."
- Jeffrey Steinberg, "The Unknown Hitler: Nazi Roots in the Occult"

"We can overlook Ravenscroft´s mistake of speaking of ´Wachau´ as a place and not of the region which really it is. But the details do not fit: the snow melting in May, the steamer running in spite of the floods, bathing in the river - it makes no sense. Certainly wrong is the
statement that Hitler had only one testicle...all this has been completely refuted by [Werner] Maser." - Christoph Lindenberg in the German journal Die Drie

"...When Russian military surgeons examined Hitler´s charred remains in the Berlin bunker in May 1945, they discovered that Hitler was indeed monorchid; he possessed but one testicle." - Frank Smyth in The Occult Connection

"One of his [Hitler´s] most influential mentors was a Viennese bookstore owner named Ernst Pretzsche. Pretzsche was described by Dr. Stein as a malevolent-looking man with a somewhat toad-like appearance. Pretzsche was a devotee of the Germanic mysticism that was preaching the coming of an Aryan super race. Hitler frequented Pretzsches store and pawned books there when he needed money. During those visits, Pretzsche indoctrinated
Hitler in Germanic mysticism and successfully encouraged Hitler to use the hallucinogenic drug peyote as a tool for achieving mystical enlightenment.
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"It was Lodz, Dr.Stein learned, who had prepared for Hitler a peyote concoction that afforded him psychedelic insight into his past lives. The peyote itself had come from Pretzche, who had lived for a time in the German colony in Mexico. Hitler had hoped that his former
existences, viewed in his drug trance, would include an early incarnation as a powerful Teutonic ruler, but it was not to be. "Instead his psychedelic perception revealed von Eschenbach´s Parzival to have been prophetic of events that would take place a thousand years after it was written, i.e. in the present. And it showed Hitler to have been the historical personage behind the evil sorcerer Klingsor, the very spirit of the anti-Christ and the villain of Parzival."

"Ravenscroft´s second mistake was to name the Viennese bookseller who introduced Hitler to drugs. ´No better name occurred to him than Pretsche, popular among English writers of fiction for German malefactors´, Lindenberg [in the German journal Die Drie] writes
scornfully before revealing that extensive checks of Vienna city and business directories and police records for the years 1892 through 1920 were negative for the name in question."
- Jeffrey Steinberg, "The Unknown Hitler: Nazi Roots in the Occult"



(2) Hitler´s Pathology

"Their [the Freemasons] hierarchical organization and the initiation through symbolic rites, that is to say without bothering the brains but by working on the imagination through magic and the symbols of a cult - all this is the dangerous element and the element I have taken over.
Don´t you see that our party must be of this character?...An Order, that is what it has to be - an Order, the hierarchical Order of a secular priesthood."
- Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

"According to [August] Kubizek [one of Hitler´s few friends from the early years], Hitler spent a great deal of time studying oriental mysticism, astrology, hypnotism, Germanic mythology and other aspects of occultism. By 1909 he had made contact with Dr. Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels, a former Cistercian monk who, two years previously, had opened a temple of the ´Order of the New Templars´ at the tumble-down Werfenstein Castle on the banks of the Danube. "Von Leibenfels had assumed his aristocratic sounding name: he was born plain Adolf Lanz and came of solid bourgeois stock. His following was small but wealthy. A disciple of Guido von List [who adopted the swastika as the emblem of the neo-pagan movement in Germany in the late 19th century] he flew a swastika flag from his battlements, performed ritual magic and ran a magazine entitled Ostara, a propaganda journal of occultism and race mysticism, to which the young Hitler became an avid subscriber."
- Frank Smyth in The Occult Connection

"Hitler is one of our pupils...you will one day experience that he, and through him we, will one day be victorious and develop a movement that will make the world tremble."
- Von Liebenfels writing to a colleague (1932)

During World War I "about two months after winning the Iron Cross, Hitler was blinded by mustard gas during a battle. He was taken to the Pasewalk military hospital in northern Germany where he was mistakenly diagnosed as suffering from ´psychopathic hysteria´. (The symptoms were probably caused by the mustard gas.) Hitler was consequently placed
under the care of a psychiatrist, Dr. Edmund Forster. What exactly was done to Hitler while under Dr. Forster´s care is uncertain because years later, in 1933...the Gestapo rounded up all psychiatric records related to Hitler´s treatment and destroyed them. Dr. Forster ´committed suicide´ in that same year.

"The mystery of what was done to Hitler at Pasewalk is deepened by Hitler´s own statements. According to Hitler, he had experience a ´vision´ from ´another world´ while at the hospital. In that vision, Hitler was told that he would need to restore his sight so that he could
lead Germany back to glory. Hitler´s latent anti-Semitism, which had already been planted by his mystical readings in Vienna, emerged at Pasewalk."

"In a shrewd piece of detective work published in the journal, History of Childhood Quarterly, psychohistorian Dr. Rudolph Binion suggests that Hitler´s visions may have been deliberately induced by the psychiatrist, Edmund Forster, as a means of helping Hitler recover from his blindness....Dr. Binion cites a book completed in 1939 entitled, Der
Augenzeuge (´The Eyewitness´), written by a Jewish doctor named Ernst Weiss who had fled Germany in 1933.

"It is a thinly fictionalized account of Hitler´s "miracle cure".
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"Being labeled as such (suffering from ´psychopathic hysteria) would most certainly have resulted in Hitler being subjected to psychiatric treatment for that condition, according to Professor Ernst-Gunter Schenck.

"Other records show that Hitler´s personal physician from 1936-1945, Theodore Morell, was prescribing and personally injecting Hitler with psychiatric drugs. The drugs, to which he was addicted, produced a sense of euphoria, for which Hitler expressed his extreme gratitude to Morell.

"Among the drugs he was administered were Eukodal and Pervitin. Eukodal is a narcotic similar to morphine and codeine, with the known adverse effects of euphoria and dysphoria. Pervitin is a methamphetamine, known to cause euphoria, dysphoria, severe social disabilities, personality changes and psychosis. Both are highly addictive.
"There is considerable controversy regarding precisely when Hitler became driven to destroy the Jews and dominate the world. There is strong evidence, however, that the ´hate and pain´ which characterized Hitler´s speeches in 1919 and afterward, as well as his fanatical
purpose, were not in evidence prior to his psychiatric treatment."
- David Bonnell (dbonnell@be1145)

"Hitler´s stellar performance in Munich [identifying pro-Communist soldiers to be shot in 1919] earned him a promotion. He was assigned to the highly secret Political Department of the Army District Command. Hitler´s new unit was an intelligence operation that engaged in acts of domestic terrorism. The unit refused to accept Germany´s defeat in World
War I and so it assassinated some of the German leaders who had negotiated Germany´s surrender.

"A prominent leader of the District Command was captain Ernst Rohm. Rohm was a professional soldier who served as liaison between the District Command and the German industrialists who were directly funding the District Command to help it fight communism. Captain Rohm and many other members of the District Command were members of a mystical organization known as the ´Thule Society´ [Thulegesellschaft]. The Thule believed in
the Aryan super race´ and it preached the coming of a German ´Messiah´ who would lead Germany to glory and a new Aryan civilization. In Spear of Destiny [by Trevor Ravenscroft] we learn from Dr. Stein that the Thule group was financed by some of the very same industrialists who supported the District Command. The Thule was also directly supported by
the German High Command."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"Briefly, the creed of the Thule society inner circle is as follows: Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the ´Masters´ of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood). The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals. The ´Masters´ or ´Ancients´ allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy. With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of ´Aryan´ stock who would exterminate all ´inferior´ races."
- Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler

"Many assassinations perpetrated by the District Command may have been inspired by the Thule. According to Dr. Stein, the Thule was a ´Society of Assassins´. It held secret courts and condemned people to death. It is likely that many victims murdered by the District Command had been condemned earlier in the secret courts of the Thule. Many prominent
Germans supported this violence and were documented members of the Thule. For example, the Police President of Munich, Franz Gurtner, was a reported member of the innermost circle of the Thule. He later became Minister of Justice of the Third Reich."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"...At the end of the 1919...Hitler met Dietrich Eckart. Most biographers have underestimated the influence that Eckart exerted on Hitler. He was the wealthy publisher and editor-in-chief of an anti-Semitic journal which he called In Plain German. Eckart was also a
committed occultist and a master of magic. As an initiate, Eckart belonged to the inner circle of the Thule society as well as other esoteric orders."
- Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler

"According to Ravenscroft [Spear of Destiny], Eckart, like Hitler, first achieved transcendence through psychedelic drugs. Research on peyote by the German pharmacologist Ludwig Lewin had been published in 1886, leading to widespread popular experimentation. Later a heroin addict, in earlier days Eckart used peyote in the practice on neopagan magic in Berlin. He came to believe that he, too was the reincarnation of ninth
century character. In his case it was Bernard of Barcelona, a notorious betrayer of Christianity to the Arabs and a black magician who used thaumaturgy to hold off Carolingian armies in Spain."

"Ravenscroft writes ´there can be little doubt´ that both Crowley and Eckart conducted deep studies of the Arabian astrological magic performed by Klingsor´s real life counterpart, Landulf II. It was to Sicily-then a Moslem stronghold-that Landulf fled after his traitorous
links to Islam were disclosed. And it was in a dark tower in the mountains of the southwest corner of that island that his evil soul festered with additional bitterness over his castration by the relatives of a noblewoman he had raped. There he practiced sadistic satanism of a
nature that foreshadowed the horrors of Nazi concentration camps." - Jeffrey Steinberg, "Nazi Roots in the Occult"

"There can be no doubt that Eckart - who had been alerted to Hitler by other Thulists - trained Hitler in techniques of self confidence, self projection, persuasive oratory, body language and discursive sophistry. With these tools, in a short period of time he was able to move the obscure workers party from the club and beer hall atmosphere to a mass movement. The emotion charged lay speaker became an expert orator, capable of mesmerizing a vast audience."
- Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler

Hitler dedicated his book Mein Kampf to his teacher Dietrich Eckart.



(3) The German Vril

"A frequent visitor to Landsberg prison where Hitler was writing Mein Kampf with the help of Rudolf Hess, was General Karl Haushofer, a university professor and director of the Munich Institute of Geopolitics. Haushofer, Hitler, and Hess had long conversations
together. Hess also kept records of these conversations. Hitler´s demands for German ´living space´ in the east at the expense of the Slavic nations were based on the geopolitical theories of the learned professor. Haushofer was also inclined toward the esoteric. As military
attache in Japan, he had studied Zen-Buddhism. He had also gone through initiations at the hands of Tibetan lamas. He became Hitler´s second ´esoteric mentor´, replacing Dietrich Eckart." - Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler

"Another important mystical organization behind the formation of Nazism "was the ´Vril´ Society, which had been named after a book by Lord Bulward Litton - an English Rosicrucian. Litton´s book told the story of an Aryan ´super race´ coming the Earth."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The Lodge´s objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of ´Vril´. Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff). Both Gurdjeiff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with secret Tibetan lodges that possessed the secret of the ´Superman´. The Lodge included Hitler, Aalfred Rosenberg, Himmler, Göring, and Hitler´s subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that Aleister
Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler. Hitler´s unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if one keeps in mind that he had access to the ´secret´ psychological techniques of the esoteric lodges. Haushofer taught him the techniques of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis and the Tibetan lamas-
and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon."
- Wulf Schwartzwaller, The Unknown Hitler

"One member of the German Vril was Professor Karl Haushofer - a former employee of German military intelligence. Haushofer had been a mentor to Hitler as well as to...Rudolph Hess. (Hess had been an assistant to Haushofer at the University of Munich.) Another Vril member was the second most powerful man in Nazi Germany: Heinrich Himmler, who became head of the dreaded SS and Gestapo. Himmler incorporated the Vril Society into the Nazi Occult Bureau. Yet another mystical group was the Edelweiss Society, which preached the coming of a ´Nordic messiah´....Herman Göring had become an active member of the Edelweiss Society in 1921 while living and working in Sweden. Göring believed Hitler to be the Nordic messiah." - William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

"The idea for the use of the swastika by the Nazis came from a dentist named Dr. Friedrich Krohn who was a member of the secret Germanen Order. Krohn produced the design for the actual form in which the Nazis came to use the symbol, that is reversed, spinning in an anti-clockwise direction. as a solar symbol, the swastika is properly thought of as spinning, and the Buddhists have always believed the symbol attracted luck. The Sanskrit word ´svastika´ means good fortune and well being. According to Cabbalistic lore and occult theory, chaotic force can be evoked by reversing the symbol. And so the symbol appeared as the flag of Nazi Germany and the insignia of the Nazi party, an indication for those who had eyes to see, as to the occult nature of the Third Reich." - Bernard Schreiber. The Men Behind Hitler

"...Houston Stewart Chamberlain, the mystic who had so influenced the Kaiser, years later declared Hitler to be the prophesied German Messiah. On September 25, 1925, the Nazi newspaper, Volkischer Beobachter, celebrated Chamberlain´s seventieth birthday and declared his work, Foundations of the Twentieth Century, to be ´The Gospel of the Nazi
Movement´." - William Bramley, The Gods of Eden



(4) Himmler and the SS

"The SS had been built up by Himmler on the principles of the Order of the Jesuits...The Reichsfuhrer SS - Himmler´s title as supreme head of the SS - was intended to be the counterpart of the Jesuits´ General of the Order."
- Schellenber, head of the Intelligence and Security Service (SD)

"What can we do? Just what the Catholic Church did when it forced its beliefs on the heathen: preserve what can be preserved and change its meaning. We shall take the road back: Easter is no longer resurrection but the eternal renewal of our people. Christmas is the birth of our savior...Do you think these liberal priests, who have no longer a belief, only an office, will refuse to preach our God in their churches?"
- Rauschning, H., Hitler Speaks

After a lengthy quasi-mystical novitiate, SS recruits were obliged to attend "neo-pagan ceremonies of a specifically SS religion devised by Himmler himself and clearly derived from his interests in occultism and the worship of Woden."
- Francis King, Satan and the Swastika

"Himmler had abandoned his Catholic faith for spiritualism, astrology and mesmerism in his late teens. He was convinced that he was the reincarnation of Heinrich the Fowler, founder of the Saxon royal house, who died in 936. All these elements were incorporated into his SS

"Himmler devised new festivals to take the place of such Christian events as Christmas and Easter, he wrote out baptism and marriage ceremonies - though he believed polygamy would best serve the interests of the SS elite - and he even issued instructions on the correct manner
of committing suicide.

"The center of the SS ´cult´ became the castle of Wewelsburg in Westphalia, which Himmler bought as a ruin in 1934 and rebuilt over the next 11 years at a cost of 13 million marks. The central banqueting hall contained a vast round table with 13 throne-like seats to accommodate Himmler and 12 of his closest ´apostles´ - making, as some occult writers have pointed out, a coven of 13. Beneath this hall was a ´Hall of the Dead´, where plinths stood around a stone table. As each member of the inner circle of the SS died, his coat of arms would be burned and, together with his ashes, placed in an urn on one of these plinths
for veneration." - Richard Deacon, Spyclopaedia

"At special SS-run boys´ training academies, the Yule festival was celebrated, not as the birth of Christ, but as the rising from his ashes of the ´Sun Child´ at the winter solstice....What they [the rituals] involve is essentially a twentieth-century variant of the old Sol Invictus cult, to which Constantine had subscribed 1,600 years before."

"Hitler spoke of Heinrich Himmler, commander-in-chief of the SS, as ´my Ignatius Loyola´....In many respects, the SS was indeed modeled on the Jesuits, and made deliberate use of Jesuit techniques in such spheres as psychological conditioning and education. But the Jesuits themselves had derived much of their structure and organization from the still older
military-religious-chivalric orders like the Knights Templar and the Teutonic Knights (Deutschritter)." - Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy



A New World Order?
(1) The Round Table and Council on Foreign Relations

"The Round Table organization in England grew out of the life-long dream of gold and diamond magnate Cecil Rhodes for a ´new world order´."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"The seven wills which Cecil Rhodes made between the ages of 24 and 46 [Rhodes died at age forty-eight] constitute a kind of spiritual autobiography...Best know are the first (the Secret Society Will...), and the last, which established the Rhodes Scholarships...
"In his first will Rhodes states his aim still more specifically: ´The extension of British rule throughout the world....the foundation of so great a power as to hereafter render wars impossible and promote the interests of humanity´.

"The ´Confession of Faith´ enlarges upon these ideas. The model for this proposed secret society was the Society of Jesus, though he mentions also the Masons."
- Frank Aydelotte, American Rhodes Scholarships

"The ´secret society´ was organized on the conspiratorial pattern of circles within circles...The central part of the ´secret society´ was established by March, 1891, using Rhodes´ money. the organization was run for Rothschild [Rhodes´ financier in mining enterprises] by Lord Alfred Milner...a key financier of the Bolshevik revolution. The Round Table worked behind the scenes at the highest levels of British government, influencing foreign policy and England´s involvement and conduct of WWI."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system [the Round Table Group] had to be extended. Once again the task was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing Round Table Group. This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as it nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group. The American organizers were dominated by the large number of Morgan ´experts´...who had gone to the Paris Peace Conference and there became close friends with the similar group of English ´experts´ which had been recruited by the Milner group. In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations [C.F.R.] were drawn up in Paris..."
- Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope

"Colonel´ Edward Mandel House was ´the British-educated son of a representative of England´s financial interests in the American South. The title was honorary; House never served in the military. He was strictly a behind-the-scenes wire-puller and is regarded by many historians as the real President of the United States during the Wilson years."
"House had set down his political ideas in his book called Philip Dru: Administrator in 1912. In this book House laid out a thinly fictionalized plan for conquest of America by establishing ´Socialism as dreamed by Karl Marx´. He described a ´conspiracy´ - the word is his - which succeeds in electing a U.S. President by means of ´deception regarding his real opinions and intentions´. Among other things, House wrote that the conspiracy was to insinuate ´itself into the primaries, in order that no candidate might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs´. Elections were to become mere charades conducted for the bedazzlement of the booboisie. The idea was to use both the Democrat and Republican parties as instruments to promote World government."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom

"In 1919 House met in Paris with members of...The Round Table in order to form an organization whose job it would be to propagandize the citizens of America, England and western Europe on the glories of World Government. The big selling point, of course, was ´peace´."

"...The most important financial dynasties in America following WWI were (in addition to Morgan) the Rockefeller family; Kuhn, Loeb & Company; Dillon Read and Company and Brown Bros Harriman. All were represented in the C.F.R. and Paul Warburg [who was the key figure in implementing the Federal Reserve System] was one of the incorporators."
"The C.F.R. has come to be know as ´The Establishment´, ´the invisible government´ and ´the Rockefeller foreign office´. This semi-secret organization unquestionably has become the most influential group in America."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

C.F.R. openly advocates ´building a new international order [which] must be responsive to world aspirations for peace, [and] for social and economic change...an international order [code word for world government]...including states labeling themselves as ´Socialist´ [Communist]."
- Study No. 7, published by the C.F.R. on November 25, 1959

As of 1971 "the formal membership in the C.F.R. is composes of close to 1500 of the most elite names in the worlds of government, labor, business, finance, communications, the foundations, and the academy - and...it has staffed almost every key position of every administration since those of FDR..."

"At least forty-seven C.F.R. members were among the American delegates to the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco in 1945. Members of the C.F.R. group included Harold Stassen, John J. McCloy, Owen Lattimore (called by the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee a ´conscious articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy´), Alger Hiss (Communist spy), Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, John Carter Vincent (security risk), and Dean Acheson."

"So completely has the C.F.R. dominated the State Department over the past thirty-eight years that every Secretary of State except Cordell Hull, James Byrnes, and William Rogers has been a member of the C.F.R."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"Almost half of the Council members have been invited to assume official government positions or to act as consultants at one time or another."
- Th