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Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?

 
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Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I've noticed whenever go fishing for fun, there are whole family's of Hmong's fishing there.
And these fuckers keep everything they catch! It doesn't matter small, big, fucking everything! I've seen fish smaller than a 50 cent piece kept.
With all them fish being kept, (especially small ones) is that going to hurt the fishing.
I went to a secret spot (the hmongs haven't found yet) on the same lake they mob at. And after fifteen years of not fishing there, the Sunny's were half the usual size! I did catch many but like I said half as big. & oh I have only keep about 15 BIG Sunny's there over many years.
Anyone else notice this crap in your area?
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I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.
 Quoting: Ailurophile

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong
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Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong
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Sorry you have to live in a society where different people with different ideas from your own also live.

I suggest getting your own private lake and stocking it with your own private fish, then you could fulfill your dream of fishing privately.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Its everywhere....Russians in PA fishing lakes barren from keeping undersized fish....I seen all kinds of people doing this shit....even your garden variety white poaching stripe bass by the boat load....

A russian guy was funny tho....he asked me why there was no fishes in the lake as he was putting a undersized largemouth bass into his pail....
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I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938316


Well, honestly, I guess it is better if they are keeping smaller ones. If they are taking the breeders, then that sucks.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Its everywhere....Russians in PA fishing lakes barren from keeping undersized fish....I seen all kinds of people doing this shit....even your garden variety white poaching stripe bass by the boat load....

A russian guy was funny tho....he asked me why there was no fishes in the lake as he was putting a undersized largemouth bass into his pail....
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Where in PA are you? I'm on the mid-Eastern boarder. I fish Striper/Catfish in the Delaware a lot.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong
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I heard from a friend who was Hmong that they grind all them up so size doesn't matter to them. (jokes there lol) they just make a mash out of them all
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Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.
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Not kidding! why is that racist?
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong


Well, honestly, I guess it is better if they are keeping smaller ones. If they are taking the breeders, then that sucks.
 Quoting: Ailurophile


They keep them all! the "breeders" are long gone!
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Where in PA are you? I'm on the mid-Eastern boarder. I fish Striper/Catfish in the Delaware a lot.
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Minnesota, we got too many of em! redface
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I have hmong cucumbers in my garden?
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Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.

Not kidding! why is that racist?
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Cause if it was a group of whites would you have started this thread?
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Asians eat fish like Black people eat fried chicken.
Its crazy!
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spock lmao
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
hmongs are mountainous people of laos... usually short stature and back in their country they smoke '' weed'' everyday, they were going to bring their pipes along when immigrating here but the US consulate told them to get rid of the pipes or '' no go to usa''.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.

Not kidding! why is that racist?


Cause if it was a group of whites would you have started this thread?
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DAMN right I would! I hate everyone equally.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong


Well, honestly, I guess it is better if they are keeping smaller ones. If they are taking the breeders, then that sucks.


They keep them all! the "breeders" are long gone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938316


Yeah most rural fishing communities aren't meant to sustain eating habits of entire families day in and out. You could definitely write a letter to the game commission and have them send out more wardens to keep an eye on them taking out illegal sized, or out of season fish.

Hell they may not even have a license. Double whammy.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Its everywhere....Russians in PA fishing lakes barren from keeping undersized fish....I seen all kinds of people doing this shit....even your garden variety white poaching stripe bass by the boat load....

A russian guy was funny tho....he asked me why there was no fishes in the lake as he was putting a undersized largemouth bass into his pail....


Where in PA are you? I'm on the mid-Eastern boarder. I fish Striper/Catfish in the Delaware a lot.
 Quoting: Ailurophile


I'm from Jersey, but fish in the Poconos sometimes...have relatives there....I wish there was more fine for the poachers....I don't begrudge anyone taking a legal limit, but its getting out of hand....I do catch and release of freshwater fish and keep a few saltwater varieties....I try educating people when I can.....I see kids catching and stabbing fish to death on the shore for no reason....mostly city kids......you should see the horrified looks on some people faces when I release a large fish, they get mad cuz I won't give it to them....I been fishing since the 70s and seen huge deterioration of the fish stocks in the ocean....weakfish used to be common, but almost non existent now.....stripers made a comeback but who knows how long it will last....I won't say its a race thing, but lack of education regarding conservation...
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Hell they may not even have a license. Double whammy.
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Yeah her a good one!
in minnesota they are tax exempt for 15 years. They pass a small business to the new imagrants then fish our lakes out! And SO much more, with the gangs and bs.
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bump
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Its everywhere....Russians in PA fishing lakes barren from keeping undersized fish....I seen all kinds of people doing this shit....even your garden variety white poaching stripe bass by the boat load....

A russian guy was funny tho....he asked me why there was no fishes in the lake as he was putting a undersized largemouth bass into his pail....


Where in PA are you? I'm on the mid-Eastern boarder. I fish Striper/Catfish in the Delaware a lot.


I'm from Jersey, but fish in the Poconos sometimes...have relatives there....I wish there was more fine for the poachers....I don't begrudge anyone taking a legal limit, but its getting out of hand....I do catch and release of freshwater fish and keep a few saltwater varieties....I try educating people when I can.....I see kids catching and stabbing fish to death on the shore for no reason....mostly city kids......you should see the horrified looks on some people faces when I release a large fish, they get mad cuz I won't give it to them....I been fishing since the 70s and seen huge deterioration of the fish stocks in the ocean....weakfish used to be common, but almost non existent now.....stripers made a comeback but who knows how long it will last....I won't say its a race thing, but lack of education regarding conservation...
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Yeah, the Poconos are my stomping ground. Lots f great fishing up here, seems you've been at it a lot longer than I have though. It's sad that it's gone that way. I know what you mean about the ruthlessness of idiots killing fish for no reason. I even get a little perturb even if it's only pickerel or an eel. It's not the point, it's still a living creature.

I have a friend who just loves the outdoors, but for whatever reason, also just loves killing things. It's sad.

I hope the striper stick around, they're a blast!

Last Edited by Ailurophile on 06/29/2010 12:23 AM
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong


Sorry you have to live in a society where different people with different ideas from your own also live.

I suggest getting your own private lake and stocking it with your own private fish, then you could fulfill your dream of fishing privately.
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you should deal with your own self loser, why do you think anyone would give afuck about you crappy veiw of soem people who are allso american?

maybe no one likes your ass too, you think of that you weak ass hippy?
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Hell they may not even have a license. Double whammy.


Yeah her a good one!
in minnesota they are tax exempt for 15 years. They pass a small business to the new imagrants then fish our lakes out! And SO much more, with the gangs and bs.
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That sucks man. I don't know what to tell you then, I guess you could kill them? lol
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
My BF is at a fishing processing plant in a part of Alaska where people only go for the summer to get fish. Locals do commercial fishing there, and there is a cannery there where the owners hire foreigners to come to process all the fish. There are lots of Eastern European university students who are working there for $7 an hour working 16 hour shifts. To them it's a lot of money and they say they can live for a year in their countries on what they make here in the summer.

However the cannery hires Hmongs too, as they are suppose to be some of the best filleters of fish in the world, they can fillet several fish in only one minutes, so the guy who hires likes to hire them for filleting fish.

They moved into the bunkhouse where BF has a room, and they offered him $20 to let them have him room, telling him he can stay in one of the empty container vans laying about outside! Then they tried to go to his boss to tell him that they will pay him $20 also if he can let them have BF's room but the boss said no.

So they have now set up their new "home" in the hallway of the building, right outside BF's door, they set up a kitchen there and they hang there and talk all the time and make lots of noise when they are not working. They blew a fuse in the building too so BF now has no electricity.

A few of the European girls who stay on the second floor came down to see him to ask if he is cooking stinky food. He told them no, it's the Hmongs camped right outside his room and that they have taken over the entire hallway. They also seem to not know how to use toilets...

This all started only yesterday when they arrived from Laos.

So it's funny to read your story.
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Hell they may not even have a license. Double whammy.


Yeah her a good one!
in minnesota they are tax exempt for 15 years. They pass a small business to the new imagrants then fish our lakes out! And SO much more, with the gangs and bs.
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They sound a lot like Mexicans, crooked and have no bounderies.
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
Hell they may not even have a license. Double whammy.


Yeah her a good one!
in minnesota they are tax exempt for 15 years. They pass a small business to the new imagrants then fish our lakes out! And SO much more, with the gangs and bs.


That sucks man. I don't know what to tell you then, I guess you could kill them? lol
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Yeah I hear that! not gonna go sniping lol or duck hunting tonight. but at least those fuckers wont get into my house. macgun
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My BF is at a fishing processing plant in a part of Alaska where people only go for the summer to get fish. Locals do commercial fishing there, and there is a cannery there where the owners hire foreigners to come to process all the fish. There are lots of Eastern European university students who are working there for $7 an hour working 16 hour shifts. To them it's a lot of money and they say they can live for a year in their countries on what they make here in the summer.

However the cannery hires Hmongs too, as they are suppose to be some of the best filleters of fish in the world, they can fillet several fish in only one minutes, so the guy who hires likes to hire them for filleting fish.

They moved into the bunkhouse where BF has a room, and they offered him $20 to let them have him room, telling him he can stay in one of the empty container vans laying about outside! Then they tried to go to his boss to tell him that they will pay him $20 also if he can let them have BF's room but the boss said no.

So they have now set up their new "home" in the hallway of the building, right outside BF's door, they set up a kitchen there and they hang there and talk all the time and make lots of noise when they are not working. They blew a fuse in the building too so BF now has no electricity.

A few of the European girls who stay on the second floor came down to see him to ask if he is cooking stinky food. He told them no, it's the Hmongs camped right outside his room and that they have taken over the entire hallway. They also seem to not know how to use toilets...

This all started only yesterday when they arrived from Laos.

So it's funny to read your story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018783


cruise

That's awful.
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They sound a lot like Mexicans, crooked and have no bounderies.
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lolsign lmao flag waver
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they sound like hobbits!