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Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?

 
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06/29/2010 12:47 AM
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My BF is at a fishing processing plant in a part of Alaska where people only go for the summer to get fish. Locals do commercial fishing there, and there is a cannery there where the owners hire foreigners to come to process all the fish. There are lots of Eastern European university students who are working there for $7 an hour working 16 hour shifts. To them it's a lot of money and they say they can live for a year in their countries on what they make here in the summer.

However the cannery hires Hmongs too, as they are suppose to be some of the best filleters of fish in the world, they can fillet several fish in only one minutes, so the guy who hires likes to hire them for filleting fish.

They moved into the bunkhouse where BF has a room, and they offered him $20 to let them have him room, telling him he can stay in one of the empty container vans laying about outside! Then they tried to go to his boss to tell him that they will pay him $20 also if he can let them have BF's room but the boss said no.

So they have now set up their new "home" in the hallway of the building, right outside BF's door, they set up a kitchen there and they hang there and talk all the time and make lots of noise when they are not working. They blew a fuse in the building too so BF now has no electricity.

A few of the European girls who stay on the second floor came down to see him to ask if he is cooking stinky food. He told them no, it's the Hmongs camped right outside his room and that they have taken over the entire hallway. They also seem to not know how to use toilets...

This all started only yesterday when they arrived from Laos.

So it's funny to read your story.


cruise

That's awful.
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SEE WHAT IM SAYING!!!! They come over here have no respect for our "traditions" like catch and release here in Minnesota. just take all and fuck you!
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06/29/2010 12:49 AM
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they sound like hobbits!
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They look like them to!!! I've seen 3 foot tall 12 year olds, for real!!!!!!!!!!!!
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06/29/2010 12:56 AM
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For all the people who think I'm a raciest! Tell me if I'm wrong & why??
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06/29/2010 12:57 AM
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Re: Are the Hmongs hurting our fishing?
No.
Most eat fast food so wtf the problem ?
Plenty left.
That shrimp was there when I got dressed this morning -- A BP Employee to TSA
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06/29/2010 12:57 AM
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LOL same shit in California Asians poaching all the fish. They get a slap on the wrist then go do it again.

They target our sturgeon population There`s a lot of $$ in that market.

Fish and Game are way understaffed but they do catch some of them.
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06/29/2010 01:08 AM
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Fish and Game are way understaffed but they do catch some of them.
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5a nice to hear
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06/29/2010 01:09 AM
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LOL same shit in California Asians poaching all the fish. They get a slap on the wrist then go do it again.

They target our sturgeon population There`s a lot of $$ in that market.

Fish and Game are way understaffed but they do catch some of them.
 Quoting: Big Bass turd 1013473


Regardless of race, I drop a dime on them to fish and game equally.....Some are sneaky enough to hide the illegal fish so I give the plate number of the car or the location they're stashing the fish....
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06/29/2010 01:15 AM
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Hey OP,

I am here in Minnesota.

First off, I had a white buddy, way back before the Hmong started arriving in the Twin Cities, who fished Phalen Lake(urban lake) every day and kept everything he caught.
He made the best pickled sunfish I have ever tasted and we would plow through gallons of it while downing many beers.

So, it is not a specifically "Hmong" problem. However, the Hmong people came from mountainous jungles in Laos. They were/are tribal survivalist type culture. I have heard them described as the "hillbillies" of southeast Asia with the same sort of derision thrown towards American southern hillbillies. The Hmong people have a total of 17 last names in their families.

They were enlisted by the C.I.A. in the illegal wars within Cambodia and Laos. There is solid evidence that they were pawns in the C.I.A.'s efforts to corner the "Golden Triangle" heroin supply.

When they started arriving in the Twin Cities back in the mid-late seventies, there were many stories of their primitive ways. They didn't know what a refrigerator was for and their food stamp food was frequently found rotting and spoiling in their homes. Hmong women were seen harvesting dandelions and plantain on city boulevards.

One story that really made the rounds was the family that flooded the basement of their rented home and were fish farming in their own basement. Supposedly the building had to be razed. This according to a longtime truth-in-housing inspector I know.

In a southeastern Minnesota county, a group of 18 Hmong men were inspected by a State game warden. Their bag contained 38 species, 11 of which were in season. The bag included cardinals, robins, an owl, basically anything that walked, crawled, or flew in the woods.

These guys were consummate hunters, woodsmen, jungle survivors, coming from a culture that had very little concept of the conservation and sportsmanship that is ingrained in our culture.

But, they have been here for 35 years now, and they have made great strides in becoming part of the fabric of our society. I personally have met Hmong ministers, lawyers, doctors, investment counselors, and shop owners. These people are incredibly industrious. Heck, we have a Hmong state senator from St. Paul, and numerous Hmong police officers, bureaucrats and so forth. The farmer's markets are teeming with Hmong truck-patchers with beautiful produce. My German ancestors started out here in St. Paul as truck-patchers.


So, don't lump all the Hmong into a nice neat package. There have been problems in the past, and some are ongoing, but I think the trend is for the better.
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06/29/2010 01:31 AM
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Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.

Not kidding! why is that racist?
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Because you are the one following outmoded theories and throwing back the surplus young while eating the big breeders that stock the lake. Then you have the nerve to blame the resulting depletion on your former anti-communist allies.
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06/29/2010 01:33 AM
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Gooks are locusts.
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06/29/2010 01:33 AM
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Hey OP,

I am here in Minnesota.

First off, I had a white buddy, way back before the Hmong started arriving in the Twin Cities, who fished Phalen Lake(urban lake) every day and kept everything he caught.
He made the best pickled sunfish I have ever tasted and we would plow through gallons of it while downing many beers.

So, it is not a specifically "Hmong" problem. However, the Hmong people came from mountainous jungles in Laos. They were/are tribal survivalist type culture. I have heard them described as the "hillbillies" of southeast Asia with the same sort of derision thrown towards American southern hillbillies. The Hmong people have a total of 17 last names in their families.

They were enlisted by the C.I.A. in the illegal wars within Cambodia and Laos. There is solid evidence that they were pawns in the C.I.A.'s efforts to corner the "Golden Triangle" heroin supply.

When they started arriving in the Twin Cities back in the mid-late seventies, there were many stories of their primitive ways. They didn't know what a refrigerator was for and their food stamp food was frequently found rotting and spoiling in their homes. Hmong women were seen harvesting dandelions and plantain on city boulevards.

One story that really made the rounds was the family that flooded the basement of their rented home and were fish farming in their own basement. Supposedly the building had to be razed. This according to a longtime truth-in-housing inspector I know.

In a southeastern Minnesota county, a group of 18 Hmong men were inspected by a State game warden. Their bag contained 38 species, 11 of which were in season. The bag included cardinals, robins, an owl, basically anything that walked, crawled, or flew in the woods.

These guys were consummate hunters, woodsmen, jungle survivors, coming from a culture that had very little concept of the conservation and sportsmanship that is ingrained in our culture.

But, they have been here for 35 years now, and they have made great strides in becoming part of the fabric of our society. I personally have met Hmong ministers, lawyers, doctors, investment counselors, and shop owners. These people are incredibly industrious. Heck, we have a Hmong state senator from St. Paul, and numerous Hmong police officers, bureaucrats and so forth. The farmer's markets are teeming with Hmong truck-patchers with beautiful produce. My German ancestors started out here in St. Paul as truck-patchers.


So, don't lump all the Hmong into a nice neat package. There have been problems in the past, and some are ongoing, but I think the trend is for the better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977661

THX for that incite. I do apprentice it, not in an sarcastic way.
It just make's me mad when if I went over there I would have much more respect and I must admit they are about as dumb as you can get! I mean real fucking stupid!


I had one of these fucker drive at me head on with the gas punched, LOL it was scary seeing a crazy old Chinese woman going kamikaze at me in the wrong lane. I
I asked her "WHAT THE HELL YOU DOING" she said donkey in my country dont go like this LOL WTF!!!!!!!!
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06/29/2010 01:46 AM
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06/29/2010 01:48 AM
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I have no idea what an Hmong is, but it sounds hilarious.

Yes, there are some people I know who will keep just about anything when I fish with them.

I'll only keep what I intend to eat, in a relatively short amount of time.

It's a person from like Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, that area. It's pronounced Mong


Sorry you have to live in a society where different people with different ideas from your own also live.

I suggest getting your own private lake and stocking it with your own private fish, then you could fulfill your dream of fishing privately.



you should deal with your own self loser, why do you think anyone would give afuck about you crappy veiw of soem people who are allso american?

maybe no one likes your ass too, you think of that you weak ass hippy?
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SUCK IT TREBECK!
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Gooks are locusts.
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ohyeah flag waver
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06/29/2010 02:00 AM
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06/29/2010 02:09 AM
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i bet those hmong famliys did way more for ameica then you ever did hippy,
you should be nice too them, before they took up eat the fish you think you own,
they ate people.
they eat their enemys if i remember right, why do you think
the SP Force used them against the VC ?
not that you would know, cause your stupid.
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06/29/2010 03:00 AM
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i bet those hmong famliys did way more for ameica then you ever did hippy,

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REALLY! you stupid fuck they came over her in the late 70's


lmao lmao
bushfing My family fought in ww2 You ignorant ass! My Uncle died in Europe @ I Was in Korea , not that you know you ignorant fuck.
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06/29/2010 03:12 AM
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i bet those hmong famliys did way more for ameica then you ever did hippy,
you should be nice too them, before they took up eat the fish you think you own,
they ate people.
they eat their enemys if i remember right, why do you think
the SP Force used them against the VC ?
not that you would know, cause your stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018762

you live in the us so shut the fuck up momma's boy and appreciate your good standard of living because of my fellow friends, You should be grateful you little selfish bastard!
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06/29/2010 03:23 AM
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Pitiful racist, I hope the op is kidding.

Not kidding! why is that racist?

Because you are the one following outmoded theories and throwing back the surplus young while eating the big breeders that stock the lake. Then you have the nerve to blame the resulting depletion on your former anti-communist allies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917779

You must be brain dead or have shit for brains! If I take 15 fish over a 10-12 years . Your just fucking retarded, You cant help DUMB!
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06/29/2010 03:25 AM
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We've tried the America without borders and no immigration control for the last 30 years and this is what we have to face, over population and starvation.
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06/29/2010 03:42 AM
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i bet those hmong famliys did way more for ameica then you ever did hippy,
you should be nice too them, before they took up eat the fish you think you own,
they ate people.
they eat their enemys if i remember right, why do you think
the SP Force used them against the VC ?
not that you would know, cause your stupid.

you live in the us so shut the fuck up momma's boy and appreciate your good standard of living because of my fellow friends, You should be grateful you little selfish bastard!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938316


go suck a dick , little man , everyones father and granfather was in those wars don't make you nothing,
my family did much to help this country,
and Mr so smart doood,
we was in VEIT NAM in FUCKING 1970"S,
and if you knew you history and blah blah blah, you'd know they only let the Hmong who help with our war there come here at that point, most of there familys stay over there, and were most likely kill by the VC who won that war after the US pulled out.

as for you thinking you did something i should give a fuck about , as i said all of our famlys were in those wars,
so don't go get all think your anything but just a plain
america doood.
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i bet those hmong famliys did way more for ameica then you ever did hippy,


REALLY! you stupid fuck they came over her in the late 70's


lmao lmao
bushfing My family fought in ww2 You ignorant ass! My Uncle died in Europe @ I Was in Korea , not that you know you ignorant fuck.
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i really doubt you were in korea ,
my father who was in korea is dead, that would make you so fcuking old doood , you need to check your self and stop talking shit.
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06/29/2010 03:46 AM
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Hmong like dog too!!! Missing any pooches???
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So, don't lump all the Hmong into a nice neat package. There have been problems in the past, and some are ongoing, but I think the trend is for the better.


what I'm saying.

Im saying respect the land you have been granted, You lost your civil war and were forced over here. and we accepted. So respect the people who live here and our way of life as we would in your country.

Is that too much to ask?
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Hmong like dog too!!! Missing any pooches???
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my grandma walked in on a gook fillet cats in a laundry room. called cops, I guess he didn't understand you cant catch and kill neighborhood pets. Who would of knew!
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So, don't lump all the Hmong into a nice neat package. There have been problems in the past, and some are ongoing, but I think the trend is for the better.


what I'm saying.

Im saying respect the land you have been granted, You lost your civil war and were forced over here. and we accepted. So respect the people who live here and our way of life as we would in your country.

Is that too much to ask?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938316



see you are stupid, the hmong are not the same as the
vietnamese,
the hmong and the vietnamese did not like each other so don't go lumping them all together as you say.

and the The Korean War (1950–53), if you were 18 then when you were in it, you'd be 78 to day so i find, you full o bull shit.
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06/29/2010 04:01 AM
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So, don't lump all the Hmong into a nice neat package. There have been problems in the past, and some are ongoing, but I think the trend is for the better.


what I'm saying.

Im saying respect the land you have been granted, You lost your civil war and were forced over here. and we accepted. So respect the people who live here and our way of life as we would in your country.

Is that too much to ask?



see you are stupid, the hmong are not the same as the
vietnamese,
the hmong and the vietnamese did not like each other so don't go lumping them all together as you say.

and the The Korean War (1950–53), if you were 18 then when you were in it, you'd be 78 to day so i find, you full o bull shit.
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85 and doin gooood
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Hmong like dog too!!! Missing any pooches???


my grandma walked in on a gook fillet cats in a laundry room. called cops, I guess he didn't understand you cant catch and kill neighborhood pets. Who would of knew!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938316


sure sure ya did mr super ass old doood who thinks he can just lie about everything and be racist too,
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06/29/2010 04:05 AM
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Hmong like dog too!!! Missing any pooches???


my grandma walked in on a gook fillet cats in a laundry room. called cops, I guess he didn't understand you cant catch and kill neighborhood pets. Who would of knew!


sure sure ya did mr super ass old doood who thinks he can just lie about everything and be racist too,
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about to go for my morning jog, how bout i kick your little punk ass. semper fi
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Hmong like dog too!!! Missing any pooches???


my grandma walked in on a gook fillet cats in a laundry room. called cops, I guess he didn't understand you cant catch and kill neighborhood pets. Who would of knew!


sure sure ya did mr super ass old doood who thinks he can just lie about everything and be racist too,

about to go for my morning jog, how bout i kick your little punk ass. semper fi
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sorry
mahahahahah,
lols at you asshat,

funny, when called on your bullshit you have to threaten me,
wich prove you nothing but full o bull shit,
and dood who ids fake don't semper fi me,
don't lie.

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