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Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages

 
The Young Economist
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Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
I wanted to list somethings that the title explains so I'll get right to it, join me GLP

Liberal:

Advantages:
Civil Rights
Gun Control
Universal Health Care
Universal Education

Disadvantages:
Tensions between Homosexuals and Heterosexuals
abortion rights are unclear
planned pregnancy organizations to promote teen sex
strong relations with socialism
weak national defense?
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Conservative:

Advantages:
Strong National Defense
Strong Religious Values
Gun Rights
strong anti-abortion advocates


Disadvantages:
Racism
isolationism
Private Education
Private Health Care

I believe as Conservatives and Liberals have met together in this massive country to get things done these are strong and weak character values i believe the ideologies have shown. I am not adding into the case NWO, Secret Societies, this is basic politics perhaps naive but i believe helpful
go ahead add and subtract to the list as you wish
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
I wanted to list somethings that the title explains so I'll get right to it, join me GLP

Liberal:

Advantages:
Civil Rights
Gun Control
Universal Health Care
Universal Education

Disadvantages:
Tensions between Homosexuals and Heterosexuals
abortion rights are unclear
planned pregnancy organizations to promote teen sex
strong relations with socialism
weak national defense?
________________


Conservative:

Advantages:
Strong National Defense
Strong Religious Values
Gun Rights
strong anti-abortion advocates


Disadvantages:
Racism
isolationism
Private Education
Private Health Care

I believe as Conservatives and Liberals have met together in this massive country to get things done these are strong and weak character values i believe the ideologies have shown. I am not adding into the case NWO, Secret Societies, this is basic politics perhaps naive but i believe helpful
go ahead add and subtract to the list as you wish
 Quoting: The Young Economist 1013187

Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.
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06/29/2010 08:23 PM
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018979


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
liberal:
advantages-
more welfare
more affirmative action
fewer law abiding citizens with guns
more social programs

disadvantages-
Higher taxes
more govt housing
less jobs
harder to start run a business
only criminals have guns


conservative:
advantages-
lower taxes
less crime
more liberty
business favorable enviorment

disadvantages-
less welfare
less afirmative action
less social programs
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013187

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
liberal:
advantages-
more welfare
more affirmative action
fewer law abiding citizens with guns
more social programs

disadvantages-
Higher taxes
more govt housing
less jobs
harder to start run a business
only criminals have guns


conservative:
advantages-
lower taxes
less crime
more liberty
business favorable enviorment

disadvantages-
less welfare
less afirmative action
less social programs
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I like, a bit bias but I like thanks
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06/29/2010 08:32 PM
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018979


i welcome you to add your own list, its a bit generic but gotta start somewhere
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.
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You can also watch it on Youtube i think
Anonymous Coward
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.


i welcome you to add your own list, its a bit generic but gotta start somewhere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013187

ok... It's something like this.

Liberal pro:
Dependance on someone else.

Liberal Con:
Dependance on someone else.


Conservative Pro:

Self dependance.

Conservative Con:

Self Dependance.


That simple. Economically.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.


You can also watch it on Youtube i think
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013187

Yea... why read anything, for sure.

especially an old book.
Ricfly52

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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013187

Proof that you need to do more research. You cannot live both in a democratic society, nor a republic society. We are either or. Do you research and report back in six months.
Fishing and skiing keeps me a little sane.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.


i welcome you to add your own list, its a bit generic but gotta start somewhere

ok... It's something like this.

Liberal pro:
Dependance on someone else.

Liberal Con:
Dependance on someone else.


Conservative Pro:

Self dependance.

Conservative Con:

Self Dependance.


That simple. Economically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018979


You remind me of Ayn Rand

Great list, But i've also asked how is American Conservationism not communist if they both rely om a central bank and why isn't the government creating its own money to pay city and state workers, while the populace sustains itself and pays no taxes?
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Proof that you need to do more research. You cannot live both in a democratic society, nor a republic society. We are either or. Do you research and report back in six months.
 Quoting: Ricfly52


Hmm to a certain extent I can agree with you, but the United States originally had a great position when it fought off the taxes of the king. From that point on I don't think we should have ever allowed a federal reserve repeating the same model we escaped
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.


i welcome you to add your own list, its a bit generic but gotta start somewhere

ok... It's something like this.

Liberal pro:
Dependance on someone else.

Liberal Con:
Dependance on someone else.


Conservative Pro:

Self dependance.

Conservative Con:

Self Dependance.


That simple. Economically.


You remind me of Ayn Rand

Great list, But i've also asked how is American Conservationism not communist if they both rely om a central bank and why isn't the government creating its own money to pay city and state workers, while the populace sustains itself and pays no taxes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1013187

Ayn Rand? Flattered - kinda. But, truth is truth. She wrote mainly in "Fact-ion".

Answer to your?:
Liberalism. Not in it's origional sense - but in it's morphed sense. Ah, progressives.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
nice chat, Op.

But it's time for me to go home...

put in 12 hours at my own business.

5.85 of those hours will go to taxes.

So much for self dependance.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
"Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult." – Andre Marrou

"This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians."-Hugh Downs

Last Edited by Trench on 06/29/2010 08:43 PM
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Huh.

Just like most obama-age economists, you have most of your facts wrong.

Go figure.


Hope I didn't seem bias cause I am actually a conservative though I consider myself both a republican a democrat sense i live in a democratic republic

Nah... not biased. Just regurgitating what you've been taught by your teachers.


Read "Free to Choose". Back in the day nobel prize winners actually had to contribute something.


i welcome you to add your own list, its a bit generic but gotta start somewhere

ok... It's something like this.

Liberal pro:
Dependance on someone else.

Liberal Con:
Dependance on someone else.


Conservative Pro:

Self dependance.

Conservative Con:

Self Dependance.


That simple. Economically.


You remind me of Ayn Rand

Great list, But i've also asked how is American Conservationism not communist if they both rely om a central bank and why isn't the government creating its own money to pay city and state workers, while the populace sustains itself and pays no taxes?

Ayn Rand? Flattered - kinda. But, truth is truth. She wrote mainly in "Fact-ion".

Answer to your?:
Liberalism. Not in it's origional sense - but in it's morphed sense. Ah, progressives.
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Good point, we need men like Benjamen Franklin in power and less men like Robert Morris.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
"Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult." – Andre Marrou

"This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians."-Hugh Downs
 Quoting: Trench


Pretty good pretty good, next time add a list too
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
nice chat, Op.

But it's time for me to go home...

put in 12 hours at my own business.

5.85 of those hours will go to taxes.

So much for self dependance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018979



WOOOOO come back soon buddy
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
"Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult." – Andre Marrou

"This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians."-Hugh Downs
 Quoting: Trench

Well said, trench.

Later all!
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Stop trying to put your fellow human in boxes.

That's the greatest tool for dividing and weakening the massess.

Not all liberals are anti-second amendment or pro-abortion

Not all conservatives fit all the talking points attributed to them either, though most of them are racist haters(-:
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
The difference is easy.

Conservatives want you to earn your own damn money.

Liberals want to spend everyone elses money.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
Stop trying to put your fellow human in boxes.

That's the greatest tool for dividing and weakening the massess.

Not all liberals are anti-second amendment or pro-abortion

Not all conservatives fit all the talking points attributed to them either, though most of them are racist haters(-:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941914


Of course not all, but these may be problems you can address if your a republican, talk to those who share your ideology and make corrections.

I don't claim that any party is stuck with these disadvantages, but what they be popular for we all have flaws, and i think the only solution is to first recognize them eventually we wont be having this conversation cause we have united under a single idea after throwing out the bad and keeping the good. Maybe I'm not sure.
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
The difference is easy.

Conservatives want you to earn your own damn money.

Liberals want to spend everyone elses money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755843


Do conservatives still want to take some of that money if there is a central bank, who collects taxes?
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
the whole left/right paradigm is a smoke-screen
its mean
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Re: Liberal vs Conservative America. Advantages and Disadvantages
the whole left/right paradigm is a smoke-screen
its mean
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it can be quite the task to get beyond that. Its all about the central bank

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