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TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"

 
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[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]

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[UGA marine scientist Samantha Joye] notes “I have read the reports from NOAA and I have yet to see methane measurements.”

She says “the biggest hole [in research on the disaster] is the gas data.” …

Joye says the amount of methane that’s getting into the air is unknown because only one ship is actually doing any measuring of gases in the air.

“BP affirms that it [methane] has seeped into the atmosphere, as if it doesn’t matter,” says Joye. “But it’s a potent greenhouse gas. We don’t have enough data right now.”

She continues “There is an under-appreciation of how much gas is coming out of this well… Methane is a huge fraction of what is coming out of this well.”

Joye, whose background is in chemistry, says when she and her colleagues got out their calculators and started looking at the measures of gas produced by the ruptured BP well-head, “the numbers we came up with are just startlingly high.”

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[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
I'm thinking there ought to be a satellite or group of satellites with some interesting data regarding sea water temperatures, atmospheric gases and more. I'm going to bet that it is public information but I am way to busy to follow up on this idea so I leave it for someone else.
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They should have monitors all over the gulf.

I lose faith in NOAA everyday.
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
we don't need bp to confirm this. We know it's seeping. Those who want to know, will find a way to know. The sheep, who rely on MSM, well...you get the picture.
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Of all the dangers possible from this oil release, the METHANE poses the greatest danger..Oily seas, earthquakes, corexit, volcanoes, mass evacuations, fires, H2S, these are minor and only localized dangers...... METHANE..METHANE...METHANE IS THE DANGER TO THE PLANET!
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 Quoting: Intruth
tptb are just stalling for time until the methane level reaches the desired critical mass..
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There are all kinds of spectrograph, balloon, satellite, tropospheric, and stratospheric test data available from NASA, the EPA and the NOAA..etc...
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
LEAVE NOW while you still can



LEAVE without the CHAOS that flames in the GOM



The death of many has already occurred





More will follow


There is no lock on the date it WILL implode and continue flaming

It will be called

Lake of Fire

It was already written, and you were given warnings thousands of years in advance

Yet many turn away fro truth


they love the lie

as the dog returns to it's own vomit

Discern
ALL

Those who deny the son, deny the Father

but understand lies have filled the mouths of wolves in front of flocks

and the sheep are in trance ignoring the Most High and heeding the deceivers and their own lusts, their various idols they erect

Know the truth

all hands are dirty

make them clean hf
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What's going to happen when the international aid crews get there and start getting sick... or dying?

Going to be tough to keep that covered up.

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What's going to happen when the international aid crews get there and start getting sick... or dying?

Going to be tough to keep that covered up.
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+1
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Use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm
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What's going to happen when the international aid crews get there and start getting sick... or dying?

Going to be tough to keep that covered up.
 Quoting: Resister



maybe this is the reason they won't allow anyone to help.
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No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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What's going to happen when the international aid crews get there and start getting sick... or dying?

Going to be tough to keep that covered up.



maybe this is the reason they won't allow anyone to help.
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Exactly
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I guess on July 4th my US cousins may see the biggest fireworks show in history.
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NOAA is not to be trusted IMO - at least their reporting to the public.

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This scientist was the first to report on the oil plumes -- which, as we all recall, were denied to exist.
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What's going to happen when the international aid crews get there and start getting sick... or dying?

Going to be tough to keep that covered up.
 Quoting: Resister



nah their way ahead of you, they have mannequins on board to put in place of the dead, incase any photos are shot.
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
There are daily and up to the minute air quality reports available online here:

[link to www.epa.gov]
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
Methane? How can it be releasing methane when there are ships right there with giant flames on them?

Wouldn't any methane gases being released combust with fires burning so near by?

No raging inferno!

Helium is the gas most associated with mud or asphalt volcanos on the Gulf seabed. They are incombustible.
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The Government won't evacuate you.

You must prepare your own escape plan.

You won't have much (if any time) if you wait for help.

Gov protecting beaches - fail.
Gov cleaning beaches - fail.
Gov paying lost wages - fail.
Gov banning Corexit - fail.
Gov closing beaches - fail.
Gov monitoring air quality - fail.

& on and on...

Don't count on them.
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Methane? How can it be releasing methane when there are ships right there with giant flames on them?

Wouldn't any methane gases being released combust with fires burning so near by?

No raging inferno!

Helium is the gas most associated with mud or asphalt volcanos on the Gulf seabed. They are incombustible.
 Quoting: UNLEASHED 971545


thats the gas they are catching...........think CURRANT !
only then will you realize that the gas is surfacing far from them, just like thr oil.

And don't forget about the wind too.............
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Methane? How can it be releasing methane when there are ships right there with giant flames on them?

Wouldn't any methane gases being released combust with fires burning so near by?

No raging inferno!

Helium is the gas most associated with mud or asphalt volcanos on the Gulf seabed. They are incombustible.
 Quoting: UNLEASHED 971545



SIGH
Methane dissolves in water kinda like soda is bubbly , until such time as it reaches a critical saturation point ..... some does come to the surface and is turned into gas which then drifts wherever it wants, and they have already had a fire on the enterprise that im not sure I ever caught THEIR explanation for and even if I had I am sure I dont trust it, could someone look at this chart and tell me what pm2.5 is cause FAIRHOPE ALA sure seems to have 65 pm2.5 and I sure hope that not 65 pp2.5m .....

[link to gulfcoast.airnowtech.org]

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[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]

“BP affirms that it [methane] has seeped into the atmosphere, as if it doesn’t matter,” says Joye. “But it’s a potent greenhouse gas. We don’t have enough data right now.”


[link to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com]
 Quoting: Sludge


Not just a potent greenhouse gas, it's flammable! And poisonous if it replaces air in the lungs.
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
The Government won't evacuate you.

You must prepare your own escape plan.

You won't have much (if any time) if you wait for help.

Gov protecting beaches - fail.
Gov cleaning beaches - fail.
Gov paying lost wages - fail.
Gov banning Corexit - fail.
Gov closing beaches - fail.
Gov monitoring air quality - fail.

& on and on...

Don't count on them.
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switch the V with a D and you find GOD protecting xxx-fail
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Is there any data on explosion potential?
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Re: TOP SCIENTIST: Only one ship testing methane levels in Gulf, NOAA hiding results; Amount is "just startlingly high"
Methane? How can it be releasing methane when there are ships right there with giant flames on them?

Wouldn't any methane gases being released combust with fires burning so near by?

No raging inferno!

Helium is the gas most associated with mud or asphalt volcanos on the Gulf seabed. They are incombustible.



SIGH
Methane dissolves in water kinda like soda is bubbly , until such time as it reaches a critical saturation point ..... some does come to the surface and is turned into gas which then drifts wherever it wants, and they have already had a fire on the enterprise that im not sure I ever caught THEIR explanation for and even if I had I am sure I dont trust it, could someone look at this chart and tell me what pm2.5 is cause FAIRHOPE ALA sure seems to have 65 pm2.5 and I sure hope that not 65 pp2.5m .....

[link to gulfcoast.airnowtech.org]
 Quoting: Corizon


Sigh? Oh dear, on again with those scientific explanations to counter an obvious common sense one. The very same one you use. If it goes wherever it wants, what's to prevent it from drifting near the ships burn-off flames and igniting the vapors that are reportedly being released in large quantities.

In my mind, the thing to worry about is the tar that all that dispersant is being carried on. It's sticky and you play hell trying to get rid of it. Ever.
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Update for June 29, 2010 [link to paoweb.com]


Selamat Jarin! We return! Much is happening around your world. At present, the dark cabal is busy meeting and doing their best to stem an impossible tide of escalating debt and cumulative circumstances brought on by its arrogance, greed, and intractability. Each day we watch and listen to these rascals scheme and plot, and then put stratagems into play which only make things worse! Thus, their downfall approaches rapidly. Such an irrational way of operating can be pursued only so long before it kicks back on the perpetrators, and yet it is swiftly becoming the modus operandi of these dark ones. We watch them use what little leverage they still possess to keep up their incredible charade. The situation resembles a cartoon show in which a huge visual disconnect takes place between the top and the bottom of a person or thing, leaving the top hanging in mid-air. Now gravity and the Divine Plan are about to put paid to this curious effect in your affairs. We are expecting to see a most pronounced change very shortly, starting with the advent of the new caretaker regimes around the planet.
To elaborate a bit on this most peculiar state of affairs: the dark cabal clings compulsively and beyond all reason to power, and our Earth allies appear unable to strike the fatal blow that changes the entire situation at a stroke. However, all is not as it seems. Our Earth allies are moving forward swiftly with a number of diplomatic and legal procedures that are to finish off the remaining dark governments, and this is almost completed. We are told to expect some lightning-swift maneuvers designed to evict the remaining dark regimes. Then, the deliveries and announcements that follow are to be accompanied by the formal acknowledgement of who we are, and this includes a general readiness to have us assist in redressing many of your environmental crises. In preparation for this, we have met a number of times with several individuals who are to be the point men on these issues once the new regimes come to power. Together we have come up with the initial messages to be issued and the way to tackle each environmental crisis. This done, we await the impending collapse of your dark regimes.

One of the issues these dark regimes and their mainstream media cohorts like to hide from the public is the true composition of Mother Earth's crust. Her sub-surface stratigraphy is actually quite different from what is pictured in your geology books. There are enormous gas belts under the Caribbean Sea as well as beneath the mid-Atlantean, central Indian, and central Pacific Oceans. These gas belts, in the main, are found close to tectonic rifts, as in the Caribbean. This latter area has, from its inception, been one of the causal agents in the rapid subsidence of Atlantis some 13,000 years ago. These gas belts are now relatively dormant. Our geologists are monitoring these belts closely while also sending zero-point energies to calm and minimize any overt signs of activity. Your various oilrigs, which rest above these enormous belts, are in danger if even one of these hundreds of interconnected zones were to become active. We are therefore working very carefully to see that this eventuality does not happen.

As your climate moves deeper into change, the weather patterns get more severe, and this leads to our second area of concern. The Caribbean is noted for its hurricane season from mid-July to mid-September, the height of which is usually from early August to mid-September. As we are entering the leading edge of this envelope in a few weeks, we have deployed several meteorological missions to monitor and make adjustments when absolutely necessary. Before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill we knew that the changing conditions in your atmosphere indicated that a number of spots on your globe were going to birth more cyclones and hurricanes than normal. So far, this is occurring as expected. Such severe weather can increase the amount of havoc in the Gulf, and it will need to be somewhat stabilized without a lot of open intervention on our part. A visual display of this sort can create needless fears and rumors among the local populace.

Once the new regimes are in power, we can openly begin the various projects needed to resolve this oil spill and return the Caribbean to a more acceptable state. Until then, we have to ask you to use your influence to insist that many of the technologies that are available be employed in order to minimize the dangers imposed on you by the worsening spill. So far your pressure has resulted in technologies that can start this process, but this is only a start. Many more devices and oil-clean-up procedures can be brought into play. Take this time to educate your legislators, local Gulf coast officials, and others that more needs to be and can be done to alleviate the degradation of the shoreline as well as the plants and animals that are being so blighted. This oil spill is a perfect example of the chaos that has permeated your world and which is nearly bringing your global societies to their knees.

This growing chaos is serving as an interregnum between the reality that you think of as "normal" and the new one that is waiting to transform your world. The new reality has begun to show itself in the awakening of multitudes around your globe every day. These newly awakened ones are ready and willing to accept what is required to build a new reality. Everywhere, your global population is demonstrating its weariness of what the dark has done to enslave and manipulate people. Literally hundreds of millions of you are searching for something better. The ever-decreasing living standards in Europe and in North America are an example of what irks so many of you. Others are aware of the way certain technologies capable of improving living-conditions, aiding your environment, and providing a way out of your present difficulties are being denied you.

We have long watched your societies be no more than fodder for the dark. Now Heaven has decreed that this mindlessness be stopped and that a new, more conscious society become the norm. But the dark has rejected Heaven's decree. Certain actions are now underway that were first begun around four decades ago. When we arrived here some two decades back, we were told to contact certain individuals and groups that were behind these types of reforms. As we did so, we discovered the extent of the control imposed on your world by the Anunnaki. We met with the main council of the Anunnaki in early 1992 and informed them that a first contact operation was near. This soon led to a confrontational meeting with the Anchara Alliance liaison teams of the Anunnaki, in which we informed them of Heaven's firm stipulations for this sacred world.

So began a series of discussions that lasted nearly three years and which ended when the Anchara peace decree was announced in 1995. These decrees changed everything. We were now talking directly and frequently to the dark's on-planet minions once the Anunnaki decided to withdraw and return to their bases at the edge of your solar system. And we are talking to them still! But now the time has come for action; events are to happen that will change your reality and start you on the final journey to first contact and full consciousness. Do not allow the surrounding turmoil to throw you off focus. You are about to experience many wonderful things. So be prepared and know that some of these will be unexpected. Enjoy the journey!

Today, we continued with our ongoing discussion. Much is ready to manifest. We wish to emphasize the need for you to be prepared for anything. Mother Earth wants to do a few things prior to her large-scale surface changes. So be courageous, and ready to be all that you are capable of Being. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

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