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Scientific Truths of the Bible

 
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BIBLE = Stone Cold Truth.


Scientific Truths of the Bible:


(That oceans currents were discoverd due to scripture!)

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* Jeremiah 33:22 claims that the stars of the heaven are
innumerable. Hippocrates, before the invention of the
telescope charted and numbered 1,022 stars. Kepler later
recounted and revised the number. Today scientists agree
with Jeremiah. There are billions just in our galaxy! It is
interesting that the Bible makes the number of stars roughly
equivalent to the number of grains of sand on the seashore
(Genesis 22:17; Hebrews 11:12). Carl Sagan also compared
these two, leaning towards the number of stars being
greater. Amazingly, the latest estimates of the gross number
of sand grains are comparable to the modern estimated number
of stars in the universe!

* Judges 5:20 mentions "the stars in their courses."
While it was once believed that the stars were fixed, today
we know that they too move in a predictable way.

* Job 38:19 is accurate in the way it characterizes
light. Note that darkness is in a place but light is in a
way. It travels a path.

* Job 38:24 indicates the light of the sun (by heating)
makes the wind.

* In Genesis 1:1 and Hebrews 1:10-12 the Bible is
unequivocal that the universe had a beginning. When the
Bible was written many people believed the universe was
eternal. Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the
early 1900’s and continuing still today, science has
confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a
beginning.

* Moreover, the universe is expanding (Job 9:8; Isaiah
42:5; Jeremiah 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Repeatedly God
declares that He stretches out the heavens. During the early
20th century, most scientists (including Einstein) believed
the universe was static. Others believed it oscillated and
would eventually collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929,
astronomer Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were
receding from the earth. This discovery revolutionized the
field of astronomy. Einstein admitted his mistake, and today
most astronomers agree with what the Creator told us
millennia ago – the universe is expanding!

* Job 36:27 asks how the rain drops stay small (discrete
even in a strong wind)? One of the reasons is found in Psalm
135:5-7. Because of the electrical charges in the clouds,
the rain drops repel each other as they fall. This is why
electrical static during a rain or snow storm can interrupt
transmissions.

* Ezekiel 5:5, 38:12 claims that Jerusalem is the center
of the earth. ICR commissioned a computer analysis of the
earth’s land-masses and discovered that the geographic
center is in Palestine, near the holy city.

*Psalm 103:12 The Psalmist seeks to describe how far
away God has removed the sins of those who have been
forgiven. Interestingly, one can go west or east forever,
unlike north and south.

* Hebrews 1:11-12 describes the wearing down of the
creation in language that nicely mirrors the second law of
thermodynamics and II Peter 3:12 describes the heavens one
day passing away in a fire that causes the elements to melt
in fervent heat (a pretty accurate description of nuclear
meltdown).

* Ecclesiastes 1:4-7 describes the whirling motion of
the winds and the movement of storm fronts long before the
advent of modern meteorology.

* Job 37:16 also gives significant meteorological
information, including the balancing of the vapors in the
clouds. Job 36:27 adds that the quantity of the rain is
proportional to the amount of vapor aloft.

* Job 26:7 The ancients Greeks believed that the world
was held up by Atlas. Other civilizations held similar
ideas. The Bible made an unusual claim: God did not hang the
world on anything.

* Psalm 8:8 discusses the "paths of the seas." The story
is told that when the man we call "the Father of
Oceanography," Matthew Fontain Maury, read Psalm 8 the
aforementioned phrase stuck in his mind. He later sought to
confirm the idea and eventually wrote The Physical Geography
of the Sea in1855. It was the first textbook on modern
oceanography. The state of Virginia erected a memorial to
him that cites this passage.

* Isaiah 40:22 Some have claimed that the Bible supports
the "flat earth theory." But this passage declares that God
sits upon the "circle of the earth."

* Job 38:13-14 conveys the idea of the earth rotating on
its axis: "the earth...is turned as clay to the seal."

* In Luke 17:34-36 the worldwide event of Christ’s
return is being discussed. The scientifically significant
fact is that these verses allude to the different time zones
around the globe long before the earth’s rotation was
understood by scientists. Note that when Christ comes, some
will be enjoying nighttime sleep while others are grinding
in preparation for the day’s baking (typically morning)
and others are working in the field (typically afternoon).

* One of the directors of Standard Oil Company read in
Exodus 2:3 how Moses was placed in an ark "daubed with slime
and pitch." He sent the company geologist Charles Whitshott
to determine if there was still oil in that region. The
discovery of oil led to Standard having very successful well
operations in Egypt. (Tan, Paul L., Encyclopedia of 7700
Illustrations, p. 191.)

* The practice of medical bleeding as a treatment (often
with leeches) was common until the middle of the 19th
century. Historians believe that George Washington's
bleeding caused his death. (Thayer, William R., George
Washington, 1922, p. 240) Ironically, by his bedside was a
Bible that stated in Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the
flesh is in the blood."

* Linguists have determined that all the earth's peoples
must have originally shared a common language. That is
precisely what the Bible declares in Genesis 11:1.

* The concept of embodied in the laws of thermodynamics:
the constant of the universe’s mass/energy and the
universal tendency towards decay and disorder are clearly
articulated in Ecclesiastes 3:14 and Romans 8:21-22.

* Jonah wrote that there are mountains on the bottom of
the ocean floor (Jonah 2:5-6). Only in the last century have
we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep
troughs in the sea.

* In Job 38:16 God challenged Job to find the “springs
of the sea.” But the ocean is so deep that almost all the
ocean floor is in total darkness and the water pressure
becomes enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to
have explored the “springs of the sea.” Until recently,
it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain.
Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research
submarines that were constructed to withstand the pressure,
oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!

* Much of the Old Testament Levitical law is comprised
of health-related restrictions involving diet, cleansing,
and quarantine. The book "None of These Diseases" and
Keller’s work demonstrate the healthfulness of following
that advice. Human medicine did not realize this until
thousands of years after it was written! For example, the
Bible cautions against consuming fat (Leviticus 7:23). Only
in recent decades has the medical community determined that
fat clogs arteries and contributes to heart disease. In
Leviticus 11 the Scripture commanded Jews to avoid sea
creatures which do not have fins or scales. We now know that
bottom-feeders (those with no scales or fins) tend to
consume waste and are more likely to carry disease. Then the
Bible warns against eating birds of prey. Scientists now
recognize that those birds which eat carrion (putrefying
flesh), often spread disease. The Bible prohibited the
Israelites from eating swine (Deuteronomy 14:8). Not so long
ago, science learned that eating undercooked pork causes an
infection of parasites called trichinosis. When dealing with
diseases, the instruction was that clothes and body should
be washed under running water (Leviticus 15:13). For
centuries people naively washed in standing water. Today we
recognize the need to wash away germs with fresh water.

* The Bible declares that life begins at conception
(Jeremiah 1:5) and God declares that He knew each of us
before we were born (Psalm 139:13-15). In Exodus 21:22-23,
the biblical penalty for killing an unborn child was death.
Today, it is an irrefutable biological fact that the
fertilized egg is truly an entire human being. Nothing will
be added to the first cell except nutrition and oxygen.

* The Bible commanded circumcision of baby Jewish boys
on the eighth day. (See Genesis 17:12; Leviticus 12:3; Luke
1:59). Medical science has discovered that the blood
clotting chemical prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the
eighth day. This is therefore the safest day to circumcise a
baby. How could Moses have known this?

* Wise pest-control procedures are given in Leviticus
25:1-24. Modern farmers are still plagued by multiplying
insects. Yet God gave a sure-fire remedy to control these
pests centuries ago. Moses commanded Israel to set aside one
year in seven when no crops were raised. Insects winter in
the stalks of last year’s harvest, hatch in the spring,
and are perpetuated by laying eggs in the new crop. If the
crop is denied one year in seven, the pests are controlled.
And this promoted soil conservation.

* When Noah was instructed to build the huge barge that
would preserve his family and two of each kind of land
creature, the Lord specified for him the perfect dimensions
for a stable water vessel (Genesis 6:15). Ship builders
today are well aware that the ideal dimension for ship
stability is to have the length about six times that of the
width. Dr. Werner Gitt demonstrated that the ark had the
ideal dimensions to optimize both stability and economy of
material. Yet God gave Noah these ideal dimensions over
4,500 years ago.

Other verses could be cited. Just recently articles have
been published claiming that the human rib is the only bone
that has been shown to grow back. Is it merely a coincidence
that this is the bone God took from Adam? A strong case has
even been made that it is no accident that science has
flourished to unprecedented levels in an era of Christian
philosophy. Great classical scientists sought to seek
God’s thoughts after Him. The Biblical view gives reason
to expect orderliness, laws, and repeatability that are the
foundation for the scientific method.
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I agree and that's why me and the elders in my village will be stoning my son later. He dishonored me and he will be stoned to death at the village gate. Praise God!
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I agree and that's why me and the elders in my village will be stoning my son later. He dishonored me and he will be stoned to death at the village gate. Praise God!
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I agree and that's why me and the elders in my village will be stoning my son later. He dishonored me and he will be stoned to death at the village gate. Praise God!
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I suggest you follow the bible and not do such a thing.

You and he are NOT living in the OT times.
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I agree and that's why me and the elders in my village will be stoning my son later. He dishonored me and he will be stoned to death at the village gate. Praise God!



I suggest you follow the bible and not do such a thing.

You and he are NOT living in the OT times.
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I'm not sure what kind of Bible twisting religion you're ensnared in but as for me and my house we worship an enternal God. We believe the Bible when it says that God is unchanging. It sounds like you believe the Creator of the universe is kind of wishy washy and that his word no longer applies. He will punish you for that.
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You and he are NOT living in the OT times.
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But your bible quotes were all OT to confirm your stance?
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God didn't even know the value of Pi
How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all
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The OPs head exploded when he couldn't process that the Bible is bullshit. He's probably beating his wife now to lower his level of frustration.
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Strange that god didn't seem to understand evolution?
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Strange that god didn't seem to understand evolution?
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Yea, He got that one right too.

evolution = lie
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* In Job 38:16 God challenged Job to find the “springs
of the sea.” But the ocean is so deep that almost all the
ocean floor is in total darkness and the water pressure
becomes enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to
have explored the “springs of the sea.” Until recently,
it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain.
Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research
submarines that were constructed to withstand the pressure,
oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!


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There are several very good examples in the OP of the bible speaking truth that man was incapable of speaking on his own at the time the bible was written.

Job 38:16 is one of my favorites.

I'd like a respectful discussion from bible doubters, if they can attempt to explain Job's declaration of "springs of the sea", when we weren't able to locate them until 1970?
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Strange that god didn't seem to understand evolution?




Yea, He got that one right too.

evolution = lie
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Just got back from stoning my son. It feels good to obey God in all things. Next week we plan on wiping out some Cananites. We will kill them all except for their virgin girls which we will keep for ourselves. Praise God.
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The OPs head exploded when he couldn't process that the Bible is bullshit. He's probably beating his wife now to lower his level of frustration.
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As Ned Martin used to say,

'mercy'...

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* In Job 38:16 God challenged Job to find the “springs
of the sea.” But the ocean is so deep that almost all the
ocean floor is in total darkness and the water pressure
becomes enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to
have explored the “springs of the sea.” Until recently,
it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain.
Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research
submarines that were constructed to withstand the pressure,
oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!





There are several very good examples in the OP of the bible speaking truth that man was incapable of speaking on his own at the time the bible was written.

Job 38:16 is one of my favorites.

I'd like a respectful discussion from bible doubters, if they can attempt to explain Job's declaration of "springs of the sea", when we weren't able to locate them until 1970?
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Hey dumbass lying filth Christian. We know you are the OP. You have no integrity. God will smite you and you to will burn in hell.
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reasonable folks can just ignore the grade schoolers.


I understand the thread is young, but it seems it currently has bible deniers stumped.

Again I'll ask about Job's declaration of the "springs of the sea".
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reasonable folks can just ignore the grade schoolers.


I understand the thread is young, but it seems it currently has bible deniers stumped.

Again I'll ask about Job's declaration of the "springs of the sea".
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Why wouldn't they suppose that the sea had springs - it is common in lakes and on the land after all - when the tide goes out you can often find freshwater springs on the beach.


It is sheer intellectual dishonesty to pretend that scientific revelations are to be found in the bible.
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I agree and that's why me and the elders in my village will be stoning my son later. He dishonored me and he will be stoned to death at the village gate. Praise God!



I suggest you follow the bible and not do such a thing.

You and he are NOT living in the OT times.
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I wish you would have copied the actual scripture instead of just giving us a random interpretation without context.
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Strange that god didn't seem to understand evolution?




Yea, He got that one right too.

evolution = lie
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Earth = 6000 years old according to the bible
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God didn't even know the value of Pi
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from time to time skeptics have used these verses to ridicule the accuracy of the Bible by claiming that, if one uses the figures stated, the circumference of the vessel divided by its diameter gives 3.0, instead of the value pi (π, 3.14159…).1

Closer examination shows there are at least two possible explanations.

1. The first concerns the meaning of the word cubit, and how it would have been used in measuring the vessel. A cubit was the length of a man’s forearm from the elbow to the extended fingertips. The Hebrew cubit was about 45 centimetres (18 inches). It is obvious that a man's forearm does not readily lend itself to the measurement of fractions of a forearm. In the Bible half a cubit is mentioned several times, but there is no mention of a third part of a cubit or a fourth part of a cubit, even though these fractions of ‘a third part’ and ‘a fourth part’ were used in volume and weight measurements.2 It therefore seems highly probable that any measurement of more than half a cubit would have been counted as a full cubit, and any measurement of less than half a cubit would have been rounded down to the nearest full cubit.

From 1 Kings 7:23 (‘a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about’), it appears that the circumference was measured with ‘a line’, i.e. a piece of string or cord on which the distance was marked, and this length would then have been measured off in cubits by the measurer, using his own or someone else’s forearm, or possibly a cubit-long rod. Similarly the diameter would have been marked on a line and ‘cubitized’ in the same way.

If the actual diameter was 9.65 cubits, for example, this would have been reckoned as 10 cubits. The actual circumference would then have been 30.32 cubits. This would have been reckoned as 30 cubits (9.6 cubits diameter gives 30.14 circumference, and so on). The ratio of true circumference to true diameter would then have been 30.32÷ 9.65 = 3.14, the true value for pi, even though the measured value (i.e. to the nearest cubit) was 30 ÷ 10 = 3.

While the above seems reasonable, and the Ask ‘Dr Math’ Forum agrees that there is no error in the Bible here, we have no way of knowing for certain whether the measurements were approximated in this way. However, even if it is assumed that the measurements given were precisely 10 and 30 cubits, the following appears to provide a definitive answer.

2. Verse 26 of 1 Kings 7 says that the vessel in question had a brim which ‘was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies’ (KJV), or a rim ‘like the rim of a cup, like a lily blossom’ (NIV), i.e. the brim or rim turned outward, suggesting the curvature of a lily.3 It is believed by Bible scholars to have looked like the drawing below.4

Let us consider the details given in 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2. These are:

1. The diameter of 10 cubits was measured ‘from brim to brim’ (v. 23), i.e. from the topmost point of the brim on one side to the topmost point of the brim on the other side (points A and B in the diagram).

2. The circumference of 30 cubits was measured with a line, ‘round about’ (v. 23), i.e. the most natural meaning of these words is that they refer to the circumference of the outside of the main body of the tank, measured by a string pulled tightly around the vessel below the brim. It is very obvious that the diameter of the main body of the tank was less than the diameter of the top of the brim. And it is also obvious that the circumference of 30 cubits could have been measured at any point down the vertical sides of the vessel, below the brim. For a measured circumference of 30 cubits, we can calculate what the external diameter of the vessel would have been at that point from the formula:
diameter =
circumference ÷ pi
=
30 cubits ÷ 3.14
=
9.55 cubits.

Thus the external diameter of the vessel at the point where the circumference was measured must have been 9.55 cubits.5

It is thus abundantly clear that the Bible does not defy geometry with regard to the value of pi, and in particular it does not say that pi equals 3.0. Skeptics who allege an inaccuracy are wrong, because they fail to take into account all the data. The Bible is reliable, and seeming discrepancies vanish on closer examination. [See also Does the Bible Give a Wrong Value for Pi? from Tekton Apologetics Ministry.]

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God didn't even know the value of Pi
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mmmm! pie!
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BIBLE = Stone Cold Truth.
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from time to time skeptics have used these verses to ridicule the accuracy of the Bible by claiming that, if one uses the figures stated, the circumference of the vessel divided by its diameter gives 3.0, instead of the value pi (π, 3.14159…).1

Closer examination shows there are at least two possible explanations.

1. The first concerns the meaning of the word cubit, and how it would have been used in measuring the vessel. A cubit was the length of a man’s forearm from the elbow to the extended fingertips. The Hebrew cubit was about 45 centimetres (18 inches)
...any measurement of more than half a cubit would have been counted as a full cubit, and any measurement of less than half a cubit would have been rounded down to the nearest full cubit.
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Giving an unknown error of 9 inches either direction.
Meaning that it would be a completely useless system of measurement and Noahs ark would have been the biggest heap of shit ever built.

Imagine trying to construct a complex thing like a city with a system of measurement that is inaccurate anywhere from 0 right up to 9 inches... and the best part is you have no idea if there is an error or not.

You expect us to believe this was the system used to construct the ark of the bible?

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There IS a lot of scientific truth in the bible...it's been proven...though I don't agree with everything on this website, it's one of my favorites for digging into history through the bible's account of it.

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from time to time skeptics have used these verses to ridicule the accuracy of the Bible by claiming that, if one uses the figures stated, the circumference of the vessel divided by its diameter gives 3.0, instead of the value pi (π, 3.14159…).1

Closer examination shows there are at least two possible explanations.

1. The first concerns the meaning of the word cubit, and how it would have been used in measuring the vessel. A cubit was the length of a man’s forearm from the elbow to the extended fingertips. The Hebrew cubit was about 45 centimetres (18 inches)
...any measurement of more than half a cubit would have been counted as a full cubit, and any measurement of less than half a cubit would have been rounded down to the nearest full cubit.


Giving an unknown error of 9 inches either direction.
Meaning that it would be a completely useless system of measurement and Noahs ark would have been the biggest heap of shit ever built.

Imagine trying to construct a complex thing like a city with a system of measurement that is inaccurate anywhere from 0 right up to 9 inches... and the best part is you have no idea if there is an error or not.

You expect us to believe this was the system used to construct the ark of the bible?

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the vessel they are referring to is not the ark. it is a drinking cup.
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The speed of light in the Bible?


Num:2:9

All that were numbered in the camp of Judah were an hundred thousand and fourscore thousand and six thousand and four hundred, throughout their armies. These shall first set forth.

A score is 20 so 4 score is 80 so its 186,400 m/s and the tribe of Judah faced East of the rising Sun. You see the referrence to light. Judah is the Tribe of Light.

Which you and I are a from the tribe of Judah.

from the website how stuff works:



the speed of light is 669,600,000 miles/hour or 186,400 miles/sec

THERE YOU HAVE IT, the speed of light in the Bible, is it a coincidense?








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* The Bible commanded circumcision of baby Jewish boys
on the eighth day. (See Genesis 17:12; Leviticus 12:3; Luke
1:59). Medical science has discovered that the blood
clotting chemical prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the
eighth day. This is therefore the safest day to circumcise a
baby. How could Moses have known this?

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Couldn't someone have simply observed after many circumcisions that too early or too late and the boy could die or become severely ill?

The Bible simply coded this observation into advice/command/law.
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* Judges 5:20 mentions "the stars in their courses."
While it was once believed that the stars were fixed, today
we know that they too move in a predictable way.

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Do not the stars appear to move through the sky as the Earth rotates and orbits the Sun?

Could this be what the Bible means?
Anonymous Coward
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06/30/2010 08:48 PM
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* One of the directors of Standard Oil Company read in
Exodus 2:3 how Moses was placed in an ark "daubed with slime
and pitch." He sent the company geologist Charles Whitshott
to determine if there was still oil in that region. The
discovery of oil led to Standard having very successful well
operations in Egypt. (Tan, Paul L., Encyclopedia of 7700
Illustrations, p. 191.)

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Simply a educated guess based upon a historic record.

If i had no knowledge of Egypt but read the Bible should i be astounded if i went to Egypt and found statues to Pharaohs?
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06/30/2010 08:51 PM
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* One of the directors of Standard Oil Company read in
Exodus 2:3 how Moses was placed in an ark .............................................................​.......................................................If i had no knowledge of Egypt but read the Bible should i be astounded if i went to Egypt and found statues to Pharaohs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021313

I would be ashamed at my stupidity rather than astonished....NOAH was on the ark.....Moses came along much later.





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