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Doing the same thing and expecting different results...the "new" Amnesty Bill
After a couple of very quiet weeks, things became a bit hectic this week after our very own Director of Government Relations, Rosemary Jenks, learned of an Amnesty plan being discussed behind closed doors that includes the abuse of executive actions. The news was made public on Tuesday when Sen. Chuck Grassley drafted a letter signed by seven other Senators, asking the White House for answers.

So what exactly is being discussed behind closed doors by the Democratic Leadership?

Since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi can't secure enough votes in Congress to pass a mass Amnesty bill this year, the Obama Administration is thinking of using two executive actions to offer an Amnesty to the nation's estimated 11-18 million illegal aliens.


Remember the old phrase..."do what you always did, get what you always got!"Call your "representatives" TODAY...RIGHT NOW! ...or is whats on tv actually more important than your country?


Read the entire sordid details here THEN TAKE ACTION!!

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This would be though executive order correct? The same thing that was talked about last week?
It really is!

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Yep...lets keep it in front of peoples faces.
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Lock N Load as it is going to get ugly soon.
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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Lock N Load as it is going to get ugly soon.
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+1
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YES, BUT, Obammy NEEDS Amnesty TOO !

He is ALSO an ILLEGAL, ALIEN FRAUD, LIAR and FAGGOT !

THEN, he can 'slip under the wire/over the fence' and FINALLY be ONE of us ?
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YES, BUT, Obammy NEEDS Amnesty TOO !

He is ALSO an ILLEGAL, ALIEN FRAUD, LIAR and FAGGOT !

THEN, he can 'slip under the wire/over the fence' and FINALLY be ONE of us ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012796


He'll never be an American. Ever. I know illegal aliens that are more American at heart than Obama will ever be. He's a muslim at heart and it shows.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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AC 791054 .... If you can't spell the presidents name right, HOW do you expect people to believe ANYTHING you write?

There were NO Regan presidents !
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God.

When you look at the shit congress has passed in the last 18 months.

Then look at the terrible decisions made by the supreme court (guns notwithstanding).

It is abundantly clear THEY are aiming for pure tyranny and fighting in the streets.
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SORRY, Fatal ! Left out the Muslim part. Didn't want to be labeled a 'racist', LOL !
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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not for 18 million
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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It is an ELITE thing. Something shoved down our throats by the Dem/Rep 2 card monty players who fool the public with their simple game.
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11 to 18 million votes for the radical regime. end
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Re: Doing the same thing and expecting different results...the "new" Amnesty Bill
Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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Moron, I know about the Reagan amnesty. But, seeing as its far too late to do anything about that fuckup, lets see if we can do something about this one, mmmkay?

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Re: Doing the same thing and expecting different results...the "new" Amnesty Bill
After a couple of very quiet weeks, things became a bit hectic this week after our very own Director of Government Relations, Rosemary Jenks, learned of an Amnesty plan being discussed behind closed doors that includes the abuse of executive actions. The news was made public on Tuesday when Sen. Chuck Grassley drafted a letter signed by seven other Senators, asking the White House for answers.

So what exactly is being discussed behind closed doors by the Democratic Leadership?

Since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi can't secure enough votes in Congress to pass a mass Amnesty bill this year, the Obama Administration is thinking of using two executive actions to offer an Amnesty to the nation's estimated 11-18 million illegal aliens.


Remember the old phrase..."do what you always did, get what you always got!"Call your "representatives" TODAY...RIGHT NOW! ...or is whats on tv actually more important than your country?


Read the entire sordid details here THEN TAKE ACTION!!

[link to www.numbersusa.com]
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This is why attorneys become politicians b/c they realize the power of changing laws for their own personal and monetary benefit and then some, they do it and get away w/it and change laws. God's word says man seeks to change the times and laws.

Enough said here!
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Use this page to send congress a free fax to oppose this crap:

[link to www.numbersusa.com]
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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YEA RAYGUN SAID A COUPLE MILLION TURNED OUT OVER TEN MILLION. JUST LIKE TEAR DOWN THAT WALL,COME ON UP. RAYGUN OPENED UP THE FLOOD GATES FOR THE M-CANS.
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Re: Doing the same thing and expecting different results...the "new" Amnesty Bill
Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...


Moron, I know about the Reagan amnesty. But, seeing as its far too late to do anything about that fuckup, lets see if we can do something about this one, mmmkay?

...god, some people shouldn't be allowed to breath.
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LETS SEE A COUPLE OF DRONES,1000'S OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND'100'S OF AIRCRAFT Obama HAS DID MORE THAN ANY OTHER PREZ SINCE RAYGUN INVITED UP HERE.
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...


Moron, I know about the Reagan amnesty. But, seeing as its far too late to do anything about that fuckup, lets see if we can do something about this one, mmmkay?

...god, some people shouldn't be allowed to breath.

LETS SEE A COUPLE OF DRONES,1000'S OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND'100'S OF AIRCRAFT Obama HAS DID MORE THAN ANY OTHER PREZ SINCE RAYGUN INVITED UP HERE.
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Obama Akbar!
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
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Dude,

Jesus Fucking Christ!!! Get over it!!!

Stop going back in history and trying to find a Republican to take the heat off what these fascist fucking communist pigs are trying to do!!!!! It's like saying Teddy Roosevelt would have approved the travesty of Death Care! Ridiculous and what do you think Teddy Roosevelt would say of Barry's handling of the oil spill? He was a fucking conservationist!!!

As for Reagan, DUDE, LOOK UP WHAT REAGAN WAS FOR!!!!! IT'S HARDLY AMNESTY SINCE EMPLOYER'S WERE REQUIRED TO REPORT THEIR WORKER'S STATUS YOU STUPID FUCKTARD!!!!!!

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In 1986, there were about 2.5 million illegal aliens in the U.S. who Congress and the Reagan administration regarded as being “safe” – that is, not having committed serious crimes or otherwise being dangerous, and having sufficient ties to American life to be allowed to remain here. Many members of Congress, chiefly Democratic members, regarded the amnesty of these illegal aliens a sine qua non of any attempt to reform our immigration laws. Reagan recognized this, and, being the optimist that he was, saw something humane and profitable in affording this relatively small group of illegal aliens legal status.

In exchange for legal status for the group, Reagan insisted that the magnet attracting illegal aliens to the United States be removed by extinguishing any incentive for U.S. employers to hire illegal aliens. In tandem with the amnesty, Reagan campaigned for employer sanctions for hiring illegal aliens, sanctions so stringent that many at the time regarded them as draconian.

Reagan reasoned that if an employer were fined for hiring an illegal alien (as much as $1 million in the worst cases), any payroll savings achieved by the hiring would be wiped out by the fine. In effect, it would be more expensive to hire illegal aliens than to hire Americans or lawful permanent residents. The few illegal aliens who continued to take the gamble and cross the border would be intercepted by a robust and more generously funded Border Patrol.

While Reagan’s 1986 immigration reforms (search) can at least be called rational, they were a failure. Today, there are between 8 million and 11 million illegal aliens in the United States. The majority of them crossed our southern border and has found employment — illegal employment, but employment nonetheless. This is attributed to Sen. Ted Kennedy’s eventual gutting of the enforcement mechanism for Reagan's employer sanctions, and successive administrations refusing to give our Border Patrol the resources it needs to achieve its mission.

unquote

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So you got that fucktard? Employers could have been fined ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!! This was gutted by a liberal shell!!! The stupid drunk alcoholic Kennedy, if you will.

Oh, God, I hate this stupid propaganda!!! It's just directed at people that don't think. It's like saying someone now doesn't like Germany. They harken back to someone brilliant saying it circa 1941 after Hitler declared war on the US!! Saying it now and showing hostility is not the same since it's not the same country without the same agenda!

It makes a difference WHEN AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THINGS WERE DONE YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!

And could you pass that along to whatever freakin' idiot is creating this propaganda!!!!!!!


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I believe in amnesty for my fellow Mexicans!

So does my amigo,



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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751094

Yes, in 1986. Reagan also said that the AMNESTY he initiated was the BIGGEST MISTAKE AND REGRET OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
Look it up, if you don't believe me.
obama WANTS ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE NONE OF US WILL!!!!!!
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This administration will go down in flames if they force that bill thru. The people will not stand for it.
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Since congress can not and will not pass an amnesty law as there is not enough support to pass it. And congress may also deny any funding to support an executive order should the president use one to try to further amnesty for illegal aliens. By congress denying funding to any executive order,it has the effect of basically repealing it since congress holds the purse strings so to speak.
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Since congress can not and will not pass an amnesty law as there is not enough support to pass it. And congress may also deny any funding to support an executive order should the president use one to try to further amnesty for illegal aliens. By congress denying funding to any executive order,it has the effect of basically repealing it since congress holds the purse strings so to speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021085



Remember how that piece of crap clinton got NAFTA through?


Think about it! Just like this...
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...

Yes, in 1986. Reagan also said that the AMNESTY he initiated was the BIGGEST MISTAKE AND REGRET OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
Look it up, if you don't believe me.
obama WANTS ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE NONE OF US WILL!!!!!!
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WRONG AGAIN RAYGUN SAID THE NATION DEBT THAT HE TRIPLED WAS HIS BIGGEST REGRET.
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Since congress can not and will not pass an amnesty law as there is not enough support to pass it. And congress may also deny any funding to support an executive order should the president use one to try to further amnesty for illegal aliens. By congress denying funding to any executive order,it has the effect of basically repealing it since congress holds the purse strings so to speak.



Remember how that piece of crap clinton got NAFTA through?


Think about it! Just like this...
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YEA THE SLIMY BASTARD PASSED ALL THOSE REPUBLICON BILLS.
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...

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Dude,

Jesus Fucking Christ!!! Get over it!!!

Stop going back in history and trying to find a Republican to take the heat off what these fascist fucking communist pigs are trying to do!!!!! It's like saying Teddy Roosevelt would have approved the travesty of Death Care! Ridiculous and what do you think Teddy Roosevelt would say of Barry's handling of the oil spill? He was a fucking conservationist!!!

As for Reagan, DUDE, LOOK UP WHAT REAGAN WAS FOR!!!!! IT'S HARDLY AMNESTY SINCE EMPLOYER'S WERE REQUIRED TO REPORT THEIR WORKER'S STATUS YOU STUPID FUCKTARD!!!!!!

[link to www.foxnews.com]

quote

In 1986, there were about 2.5 million illegal aliens in the U.S. who Congress and the Reagan administration regarded as being “safe” – that is, not having committed serious crimes or otherwise being dangerous, and having sufficient ties to American life to be allowed to remain here. Many members of Congress, chiefly Democratic members, regarded the amnesty of these illegal aliens a sine qua non of any attempt to reform our immigration laws. Reagan recognized this, and, being the optimist that he was, saw something humane and profitable in affording this relatively small group of illegal aliens legal status.

In exchange for legal status for the group, Reagan insisted that the magnet attracting illegal aliens to the United States be removed by extinguishing any incentive for U.S. employers to hire illegal aliens. In tandem with the amnesty, Reagan campaigned for employer sanctions for hiring illegal aliens, sanctions so stringent that many at the time regarded them as draconian.

Reagan reasoned that if an employer were fined for hiring an illegal alien (as much as $1 million in the worst cases), any payroll savings achieved by the hiring would be wiped out by the fine. In effect, it would be more expensive to hire illegal aliens than to hire Americans or lawful permanent residents. The few illegal aliens who continued to take the gamble and cross the border would be intercepted by a robust and more generously funded Border Patrol.

While Reagan’s 1986 immigration reforms (search) can at least be called rational, they were a failure. Today, there are between 8 million and 11 million illegal aliens in the United States. The majority of them crossed our southern border and has found employment — illegal employment, but employment nonetheless. This is attributed to Sen. Ted Kennedy’s eventual gutting of the enforcement mechanism for Reagan's employer sanctions, and successive administrations refusing to give our Border Patrol the resources it needs to achieve its mission.

unquote

=============

So you got that fucktard? Employers could have been fined ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!! This was gutted by a liberal shell!!! The stupid drunk alcoholic Kennedy, if you will.

Oh, God, I hate this stupid propaganda!!! It's just directed at people that don't think. It's like saying someone now doesn't like Germany. They harken back to someone brilliant saying it circa 1941 after Hitler declared war on the US!! Saying it now and showing hostility is not the same since it's not the same country without the same agenda!

It makes a difference WHEN AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THINGS WERE DONE YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!

And could you pass that along to whatever freakin' idiot is creating this propaganda!!!!!!!


5a
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I have a ex sister in law whom was illegal and lived in AZ with her illegal hubby and still does, she recently has become legal, but for years her and her hubby received total state welfare while both being fully employed! Today they own two business, a huge home, and have more than most Americans do thanks to the welfare system feeding, housing, clothing, and providing daycare and medical care all free for years!! Why would you not come to the US if you knew this. I am happy to have the new AZ law here!!! It is needed!
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Dude, Amnesty for Illegal Ailens was a Regan thing.

Look it up...


Moron, I know about the Reagan amnesty. But, seeing as its far too late to do anything about that fuckup, lets see if we can do something about this one, mmmkay?

...god, some people shouldn't be allowed to breath.
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DO WHAT PUT THE CONS WHO FUCKED THE MIDDLE-CLASS BACK IN POWER.HAHAHAHAHA

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