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| Anonymous Coward
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Dissent is not tolerated in the US corporate media today. This is not freedom, this is not democracy. This is Fascism, which is broadly defined as a merger of convenience between government and corporations. It´s very important to keep your head shaped properly, whether that means clear channel picking what songs you can hear on the radio to MTV deciding what you should see. Whether or not you agree with NIN is not the point. The point is that only administration approved messages reach your head.
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The rock band Nine Inch Nails said on Friday it canceled plans to appear on next week´s MTV Movie Awards after the network questioned the band´s plans to perform in front of an image of President Bush
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| excellent
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Good for Trent! |
| Anonymous Coward
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"MTV said in a statement: "While we respect Nine Inch Nails´ point of view, we were uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement. When we discussed our discomfort with the band, their choice was to unfortunately pull out of the Movie Awards.""
I don´t agree with MTV´s position at all. They are being very hypocritical with the way they choose do business. They play the Eminem video bashing Bush, they play the Green Day video bashing Bush, yet they won´t allow a single image of the President to appear behind a performance at their very own awards show. It speaks volumes about the current state of the world in the United States. If MTV won´t allow something as simple as this, what else won´t the press and other alternative stations allow out into the public view? It really makes you wonder.
Speaking of wonder, which image of Bush did they intend to use? |
| anders
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yet they won´t allow a single image of the President to appear behind a performance at their very own awards show
big difference
the M ´n M´s video and others are just that, videos
and pre-approved
9 inch snails are LIVE
anything can happen on live TV |
| Anonymous Coward
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Are those shows really "live", Anders? I thought that after the Janet Jackson breast nonsense with CBS, which is owned by the same company incidentally, shows are on a time delay or even pre-taped. Maybe for MTV that´s not the case? I doubt it though, I really do. Someone always gets final cut on those types of shows. |
| anders
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1177 you are right, i was generalising, i have heard they are on a delay, i don´t know how long
for sure cia and other gubbmint agencies have agents in place in tv control rooms and newspaper offices and etc to pull stories or events at will
mtv audience is pretty gullible, but not that gullible
if the tv transmission suddenly developed a tech fault in middle if nisnails set everyone would smell a rat, at least those with functionaing brain cells, on 2nd thots for mtv audience that is possible only 5% |
| Anonymous Coward
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I haven´t listened to NIN in over 10 years, but this might make me give them a listen again! MTV should give them an award for "Band Most Unlikely to SELL OUT!" |
| Anonymous Coward
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Anders, no matter what your musical tastes, does it not upset you that a performing artist cannot choose to perform the way they want to anymore? And of all stations not to allow it, MTV? I thought art was about the freedom to express yourself no matter what the point of view or who opposes it. That´s what art is. This whole thing wreaks of censorship front, back, center and sideways. It should make everyone wonder just who´s pulling the puppet strings in Oz. |
| anders
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Anders, no matter what your musical tastes, does it not upset you that a performing artist cannot choose to perform the way they want to anymore?
sure
i am a writer and have been censored many times, banned, ditto
cia instigated operation MOCKINGBIRD
it is still in existence |
| AA
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Wait why did NIN want to play infront of an image of Bush? |
| anders
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MOCKINGBIRD
The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." - CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. "Katherine The Great," by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)
As terrible as it is to live in a nation where the press in known to be controlled by the government, at least one has the advantage of knowing the bias is present, and to adjust for it. In the United States of America, we are taught from birth that our press is free from such government meddling. This is an insideous lie about the very nature of the news institution in this country. One that allows the government to lie to us while denying the very fact of the lie itself.
The Alex Constantine Article
Tales from the Crypt
The Depraved Spies and Moguls
of the CIA´s Operation MOCKINGBIRD
by Alex Constantine
Who Controls the Media?
Soulless corporations do, of course. Corporations with grinning,
double-breasted executives, interlocking directorates, labor squabbles
and flying capital. Dow. General Electric. Coca-Cola. Disney.
Newspapers should have mastheads that mirror the world: The
Westinghouse Evening Scimitar, The Atlantic-Richfield Intelligentser .
It is beginning to dawn on a growing number of armchair ombudsmen that
the public print reports news from a parallel universe - one that has
never heard of politically-motivated assassinations, CIA-Mafia banking
thefts, mind control, death squads or even federal agencies with
secret budgets fattened by cocaine sales - a place overrun by lone
gunmen, where the CIA and Mafia are usually on their best behavior. In
this idyllic land, the most serious infraction an official can commit
__is a the employment of a domestic servant with (shudder) no
residency status.
This unlikely land of enchantment is the creation of MOCKINGBIRD.
It was conceived in the late 1940s, the most frigid period of the cold
war, when the CIA began a systematic infiltration of the corporate
media, a process that often included direct takeover of major news
outlets.
In this period, the American intelligence services competed with
communist activists abroad to influence European labor unions. With or
without the cooperation of local governments, Frank Wisner, an
undercover State Department official assigned to the Foreign Service,
rounded up students abroad to enter the cold war underground of covert
operations on behalf of his Office of Policy Coordination. Philip
Graham, __a graduate of the Army Intelligence School in Harrisburg,
PA, then publisher of the Washington Post., was taken under Wisner´s
wing to direct the program code-named Operation MOCKINGBIRD.
"By the early 1950s," writes formerVillage Voice reporter Deborah
Davis in Katharine the Great, "Wisner ´owned´ respected members of the
New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles, plus
stringers, four to six hundred in all, according to a former CIA
analyst." The network was overseen by Allen Dulles, a templar for
German and American corporations who wanted their points of view
represented in the public print. Early MOCKINGBIRD influenced 25
newspapers and wire agencies consenting to act as organs of CIA
propaganda. Many of these were already run by men with reactionary
views, among them William Paley (CBS), C.D. Jackson (Fortune), Henry
Luce (Time) and Arthur Hays Sulzberger (N.Y. Times).
Activists curious about the workings of MOCKINGBIRD have since been
appalled to f__ind in FOIA documents that agents boasting in CIA
office memos of their pride in having placed "important assets" inside
every major news publication in the country. It was not until 1982
that the Agency openly admitted that reporters on the CIA payroll have
acted as case officers to agents in the field.
"World War III has begun," Henry´s Luce´s Life declared in March,
1947. "It is in the opening skirmish stage already." The issue
featured an excerpt of a book by James Burnham, who called for the
creation of an "American Empire," "world-dominating in political
power, set up at least in part through coercion (probably including
war, but certainly the threat of war) and in which one group of people
... would hold more than its equal share of power."
George Seldes, the famed anti-fascist media critic, drew down on Luce
in 1947, explaining tha__t "although avoiding typical Hitlerian
phrases, the same doctrine of a superior people taking over the world
and ruling it, began to appear in the press, whereas the organs of
Wall Street were much more honest in favoring a doctrine inevitably
leading to war if it brought greater commercial markets under the
American flag."
On the domestic front, an abiding relationship was struck between the
CIA and William Paley, a wartime colonel and the founder of CBS. A
firm believer in "all forms of propaganda" to foster loyalty to the
Pentagon, Paley hired CIA agents to work undercover at the behest of
his close friend, the busy grey eminence of the nation´s media, Allen
Dulles. Paley´s designated go-between in his dealings with the CIA was
Sig Mickelson, president of CBS News from 1954 to 1961.
The CIA´s assimilation of old guard fascists was overseen by the
Operations Coordination Board, directed by C.D. Jackson, formerly an
executive of Time magazine and Eisenhower´s Special Assistant for Cold
War Strategy. In 1954 he was succeeded by Nelson Rockefeller, who quit
a year later, disgusted at the administration´s political infighting.
Vice President Nixon succeeded Rockefeller as the key cold war
strategist.
"Nixon," writes John Loftus, a former attorney for the Justice
Department´s Office of Special Investigations, took "a small boy´s
delight in the arcane tools of the intelligence craft - the hidden
microphones, the ´black´ propaganda." Nixon especially enjoyed his
visit to a Virginia training camp to observe Nazis in the "special
forces" drilling at covert operations.
One of the fugitives recruited by the American intelligence
underground was heroin smuggler Hubert von Blücher, the son of A
German ambassador. Hubert often bragged that that he was trained by
the Abwehr, the German military intelligence division, while still a
civilian in his twenties. He served in a recon unit of the German Army
until forced out for medical reasons in 1944, according to his wartime
records. He worked briefly as an assistant director for Berlin-Film on
a movie entitled One Day ..., and finished out the war flying with the
Luftwaffe, but not to engage the enemy - his mission was the smuggling
of Nazi loot out of the country. His exploits were, in part, the
subject of Sayer and Botting´s Nazi Gold, an account of the knockover
of the Reichsbank at the end of the war.
In 1948 he flew the coop to Argentina. Posing as a photographer named
Huberto von Bleucher Corell, he immediately paid court to Eva Peron,
presenting her with an invaluable Gobelin tapestry (a selection from
the wealth of artifacts confiscated by the SS from Europe´s Jews?).
Hubert then met with Martin Bormann at the Hotel Plaza to deliver
German marks worth $80 million. The loot financed the birth of the
National Socialist Party in Argentina, among other forms of Nazi
revival.
In 1951, Hubert migrated northward and took a job at the Color
Corporation of America in Hollywood. He eked out a living writing
scripts for the booming movie industry. His voice can be heard on a
film set in the Amazon, produced by Walt Disney. Nine years later he
returned to Buenos Aires, then Düsseldorf, West Germany, and
established a firm that developed not movie scripts, but anti-chemical
warfare agents for the government. At the Industrie Club in Düsseldorf
in 1982, von Blücher boasted to journalists, "I am chief shareholder
of Pan American Airways. I am the best friend of Howard Hughes. The
Beach Hotel in Las Vegas is 45 percent financed by me. I am thus the
biggest financier ever to appear in the Arabian Nights tales dreamed
up by these people over their second bottle of brandy."
Not really. Two the biggest financiers to stumble from the drunken
dreams of world-moving affluence were, in their time, Moses Annenberg,
publisher of The Philadelphia Inquirer, and his son Walter , the
CIA/mob-anchored publisher of the TV Guide. Like most American
high-rollers, Annenberg lived a double life. Moses, his father, was a
scion of the Capone mob. Both Moses and Walter were indicted in 1939
for tax evasions totalling many millions of dollars - the biggest case
in the history of the Justice Department. Moses pled guilty and agreed
to pay the government $8 million and settle $9 million in assorted tax
claims, penalties and interest debts. Moses received a three-year
sentence. He died in Lewisburg Penitentiary.
Walter Annenbeg, the TV Guide magnate, was a lofty Republican. On the
campaign trail in April, 1988, George Bush flew into Los Angeles to
woo Reagan´s kitchen cabinet. "This is the topping on the cake,"
Bush´s regional campaign director told the Los Angeles Times. The Bush
team met at Annenberg´s plush Rancho Mirage estate at Sunnylands,
California. It was at the Annenberg mansion that Nixon´s cabinet was
chosen, and the state´s social and contributor registers built over a
quarter-century of state political dominance by Ronald Reagan, whose
acting career was launched by Operation MOCKINGBIRD.
The commercialization of television, coinciding with Reagan´s
recruitment by the Crusade for Freedom, a CIA front, presented the
intelligence world with unprecedented potential for sowing propaganda
and even prying in the age of Big Brother. George Orwell glimpsed the
possibilities when he installed omniscient video surveillance
technology in 1948, a novel rechristened 1984 for the first edition
published in the U.S. by Harcourt, Brace. Operation Octopus, according
to federal files, was in full swing by 1948, a surveillance program
that turned any television set with tubes into a broadcast
transmitter. Agents of Octopus could pick up audio and visual images
with the equipment as far as 25 miles away.
Hale Boggs was investigating Operation Octopus at the time of his
disappearance in the midst of the Watergate probe.
In 1952, at MCA, Actors´ Guild president Ronald Reagan - a screen idol
recruited by MOCKINGBIRD´s Crusade for Freedom to raise funds for the
resettlement of Nazis in the U.S., according to Loftus - signed a
secret waiver of the conflict-of-interest rule with the mob-controlled
studio, in effect granting it a labor monopoly on early television
programming. In exchange, MCA made Reagan a part owner. Furthermore,
historian C. Vann Woodward, writing in the New York Times, in 1987,
reported that Reagan had "fed the names of suspect people in his
organization to the FBI secretly and regularly enough to be assigned
´an informer´s code number, T-10.´ His FBI file indicates intense
collaboration with producers to ´purge´ the industry of subversives."
No one ever turned a suspicious eye on Walter Cronkite, a former
intelligence officer and in the immediate postwar period UPI´s Moscow
correspondent. Cronkite was lured to CBS by Operation MOCKINGBIRD´s
Phil Graham, according to Deborah Davis.
Another television conglomerate, Cap Cities, rose like a horror-film
simian from CIA and Mafia heroin operations. Among other
organized-crime Republicans, Thomas Dewey and his neighbor Lowell
Thomas threw in to launch the infamous Resorts International, the
corporate front for Lansky´s branch of the federally-sponsored mob
family and the corporate precursor to Cap Cities. Another of the
investors was James Crosby, a Cap Cities executive who donated
$100,000 to Nixon´s 1968 presidential campaign. This was the year that
Resorts bought into Atlantic City casino interests. Police in New
jersey attempted, with no success, to spike the issuance of a gambling
license to the company, citing Mafia ties.
In 1954, this same circle of investors, all Catholics, founded the
broadcasting company notorious for overt propagandizing and general
spookiness. The company´s chief counsel was OSS veteran William Casey,
who clung to his shares by concealing them in a blind trust even after
he was appointed CIA director by Ronald Reagan in 1981.
"Black radio" was the phrase CIA critic David Wise coined in The
Invisible Government to describe the agency´s intertwining interests
in the emergence of the transistor radio with the entrepreneurs who
took to the airwaves. "Daily, East and West beam hundreds of
propaganda broadcasts at each other in an unrelenting babble of
competition for the minds of their listeners. The low-price transistor
has given the hidden war a new importance," enthused one foreign
correspondent.
A Hydra of private foundations sprang up to finance the propaganda
push. One of them, Operations and Policy Research, Inc. (OPR),
received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the CIA through private
foundations and trusts. OPR research was the basis of a television
series that aired in New York and Washington, D.C. in 1964, Of People
and Politics, a "study" of the American political system in 21 weekly
installments.
In Hollywood, the visual cortex of The Beast, the same CIA/Mafia
combination that formed Cap Cities sank its claws into the film
studios and labor unions. Johnny Rosselli was pulled out of the Army
during the war by a criminal investigation of Chicago mobsters in the
film industry. Rosselli, a CIA asset probably assassinated by the CIA,
played sidekick to Harry Cohn, the Columbia Pictures mogul who visited
Italy´s Benito Mussolini in 1933, and upon his return to Hollywood
remodeled his office after the dictator´s. The only honest job
Rosselli ever had was assistant purchasing agent (and a secret
investor) at Eagle Lion productions, run by Bryan Foy, a former
producer for 20th Century Fox. Rosselli, Capone´s representative on
the West Coast, passed a small fortune in mafia investments to Cohn.
Bugsy Seigel pooled gambling investments with Billy Wilkerson,
publisher of the Hollywood Reporter.
In the 1950s, outlays for global propaganda climbed to a full third of
the CIA´s covert operations budget. Some 3, 000 salaried and contract
CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts. The cost
of disinforming the world cost American taxpayers an estimated $265
million a year by 1978, a budget larger than the combined expenditures
of Reuters, UPI and the AP news syndicates.
In 1977, the Copely News Service admitted that it worked closely with
the intelligence services - in fact, 23 employees were full-time
employees of the Agency.
Most consumers of the corporate media were - and are - unaware of the
effect that the salting of public opinion has on their own beliefs. A
network anchorman in time of national crisis is an instrument of
psychological warfare in the MOCKINGBIRD media. He is a creature from
the national security sector´s chamber of horrors. For this reason
consumers of the corporate press have reason to examine their basic
beliefs about government and life in the parallel universe of these
United States. |
| Anonymous Coward
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trent refused to sell out. he founded his own record company so he could do things his way. it appears to have been doing good ever since it was created. |
| Anonymous Coward
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AA> The current Nine Inch Nails single, The Hand That Feeds, is a blow to Bush according to statements made by Reznor.
Anders> That is a very interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Do you have any other links that relate to the same topic?
1133> I don´t think his label exists anymore. |
| Anonymous Coward
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1177 -- oh. I didn´t know that. |
| anders
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1177
non specifically, try googling another cia project, cointelpro
botoom line is
we´re boned |
| Anonymous Coward
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I´ll snoop around google now for info on that, Anders. Gracias. |
| Anonymous Coward
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The Propaganda System
Noam Chomsky
Lies of Our Times, May 1992
Letter from Lexington April 6, 1992
Dear LOOT,
Media critique has generally focused on how the news and opinion sections ensure right thinking. Book reviews are another intriguing element of the system of doctrinal control. In particular, the New York Times Book Review serves as a guide to readers and librarians with limited resources. The editors must not only select the right books, but also reviewers who adhere to the norms of political correctness. What follows are some illustrations, drawn from successive weeks.
In the study of any system, it is often useful to look at something radically different, to highlight crucial features. Let´s begin, then, by looking at a society that is close to the opposite pole from ours: Brezhnev´s USSR.
Consider policy formation. In Brezhnev´s USSR, economic policy was determined in secret, by centralized power; popular involvement was nil, except marginally, through the Communist Party. Political policy was in the same hands. The political system was meaningless, with virtually no flow from bottom to top.
Consider next the information system, inevitably constrained by the distribution of economic-political power. In Brezhnev´s USSR there was a spectrum, bounded by disagreements within centralized power. True, the media were never obedient enough for the commissars. Thus they were bitterly condemned for undermining public morale during the war in Afghanistan, playing into the hands of the imperial aggressors and their local agents from whom the USSR was courageously defending the people of Afghanistan (see E.S. Herman and N. Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent, 226f.). For the totalitarian mind, no degree of servility is ever enough.
There were dissidents and alternative media: underground samizdat and foreign radio. According to a 1979 US government-funded study, 77% of blue-collar workers and 96% of the middle elite listened to foreign broadcasts, while the alternative press reached 45% of high-level professionals, 41% of political leaders, 27% of managers, and 14% of blue-collar workers. The study also found most people satisfied with living conditions, favoring state-provided medical care, and largely supportive of state control of heavy industry; emigration was more for personal than political reasons (James Miller and Peter Donhowe, Washington Post Weekly, Feb. 17, 1986, p. 16).
Dissidents were bitterly condemned as "anti-Soviet" and "supporters of capitalist imperialism," as demonstrated by the fact that they condemned the evils of the Soviet system instead of marching in parades denouncing the crimes of official enemies. They were also punished, not in the style of US dependencies such as El Salvador, but harshly enough.
The concept "anti-Soviet" is particularly striking. We find similar concepts in Nazi Germany, Brazil under the generals, and totalitarian cultures generally. In a relatively free society, the concept would simply evoke ridicule. Imagine, say, that Italian critics of state power were condemned for "anti-Italianism." Such concepts as "anti-Soviet" are the very hallmark of a totalitarian culture; only the most dedicated and humorless commissar could use such terms.
Well-behaved party hacks were guilty of no such crimes as anti-Sovietism. Their task was to applaud the state and its leaders; or even better, criticize them for deviating from their grand principles, thus instilling the propaganda line by presupposition rather than assertion, always the most effective technique. The commissar might say that leaders erred in their defense of Afghanistan against "the assault from the inside, which was manipulated" by Pakistan and the CIA. They should have understood that "it was an Afghan war, and if we converted it into a white man´s war, we would lose." Similarly, a Nazi ideologue might have conceded that the "encounter" between Germans and Slavs on the Eastern front was "less than inspiring," though for balance, we must recall that it was "a total war between rival nations for control of a territory both groups were willing to die for"; and for the Slavs "the terms of the conflict" were "less mortal" than for the Germans needing Lebensraum, "staking not only their fortunes but also their very lives on the hope of building new lives in untried country." The Slavs, after all, could trudge off to Siberia. I return to the source of the quotes directly.
With these observations as background, let us turn to our own free society.
Begin again with policy formation. Economic policy is determined in secret; in law and in principle, popular involvement is nil. The Fortune 500 are more diverse than the Politburo, and market mechanisms provide far more diversity than in a command economy. But a corporation, factory, or business is the economic equivalent of fascism: decisions and control are strictly top-down. People are not compelled to purchase the products or rent themselves to survive, but those are the sole choices.
The political system is closely linked to economic power, both through personnel and broader constraints on policy. Efforts of the public to enter the political arena must be barred: liberal elites see such efforts as a dangerous "crisis of democracy," and they are intolerable to statist reactionaries ("conservatives"). The political system has virtually no flow from bottom to top, apart from the local level; the general public appears to regard it as largely meaningless.
The media present a spectrum of opinion, largely reflecting tactical divisions within the state-corporate nexus. True, they are never obedient enough for the commissars. The media were bitterly condemned for undermining public morale during the war in Vietnam, playing into the hands of the imperial aggressors and their local agents from whom the US was courageously defending the people of Vietnam; a Freedom House study provides a dramatic example (see Herman and Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent, chapter 5, 5.2, and appendix 3). For the totalitarian mind, again, no degree of servility is enough.
There are dissidents and other information sources. Foreign radio broadcasts reach virtually no one, but alternative media exist, though without a tiny fraction of the outreach of samizdat. Dissidents are bitterly condemned as "anti-American" and "supporters of Communism" as demonstrated by the fact that they condemn the evils of the American system instead of marching in parades denouncing the crimes of official enemies. But they are not severely punished, at least if they are privileged and of the right color. Again, the concept "anti-American" is particularly striking, the very hallmark of a totalitarian mentality.
.......... |
| Anonymous Coward
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Who Owns the Media?
[link to www.freepress.net]
7 People control everything the masses in the US think they know today, and they think they know what these people believe.
News Corp - Rupert Murdoch
GE - Jeffrey R. Immelt
Viacom - Sumner Redstone
TimeWarner - Dick Parsons
Disney - Robert Iger
Vivendi - Jean-Bernard Lévy
Bertelsmann - Ewald Walgenbach
"For better or for worse, our company is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values." - Rupert Murdoch |
| Anonymous Coward
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FOX:
2003 revenues: $17.5 billion
News Corporation´s holdings include: FOX Network, DirecTV, 34 TV stations, National Geographic Channel, FX, 20th Century Fox, the New York Post, Harper Collins Publishers, Regan Books, and sports teams (click a category for complete details)Satellite: DirecTV (largest Satellite TV provider in U.S.), BskyB (U.K.) , FOXTel (Australia), Phoenix Television (China), Sky Italia (Italy)
Cable: Fox News Channel, Fox Movie Channel, FX, National Geographic Channel, SPEED Channel, Fox Sports Net, Fox Sports (17 local/regional cable stations), Sunshine Network, Madison Square Garden Network, FOXTEL, SKYPerfecTV, STAR, Stream
Local stations: 34 stations including 2 each in NY, LA, and Chicago. (click here for a list) 20th Century Fox, Fox Searchlight Pictures, Fox Television StudiosNewspapers: U.S.- New York Post. U.K.- News International, News of the World, The Sun, The Sunday Times, The Times of London. Australasia- Daily Telegraph, Fiji Times, Gold Coast Bulletin, Herald Sun, Newsphotos, Newspix, Newstext, NT News, Post-Courier, Sunday Herald Sun, Sunday Mail, Sunday Tasmanian, Sunday Territorian, Sunday Times, The Advertiser, The Australian, The Courier-Mail, The Mercury, The Sunday Telegraph, Weekly Times
Magazines: InsideOut, donna hay, SmartSource, The Weekly Standard, TV Guide (partial)
Books: Harper Collins Publishers, Regan Books, Zondervan Teams: Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Knicks (partial ownership), New York Rangers (partial ownership), Los Angeles Kings (partial ownership), Los Angeles Lakers (partial ownership)
Misc: Dodger Stadium, Staples Center (partial ownership), Madison Square Garden (partial ownership) National Rugby League (Australia)Music: Festival Records, Mushroom Records
Misc: Fox Sports Radio Network, Broadsystem, Fox Interactive, NDS, News Interactive, News Outdoor, Nursery World
------------------------------------------------
GE:
2003 revenues: $134.2 billion
General Electric holdings include: NBC, Telemundo, Universal Pictures, Universal Parks & Resorts, CNBC, Bravo, MSNBC, and vast holdings in numerous other business sectors (click a category for complete details)
GE/NBC recently acquired many of the highest-profile media properties previously held by Vivendi.Broadcasting: NBC, Paxson Communications [PAX] (32%), Telemundo Communications Group
TV Stations: Fourteen NBC television stations — WVTM (Birmingham, AL), KXAS (Dallas, TX), WMAQ (Chicago, IL), WCMH (Columbus, OH), WVIT (Hartford, CT), KNBC (Los Angeles, CA), WTVJ (Miami, FL), WNBC (New York, NY), WCAU (Philadelphia, PA), WJAR (Providence, RI), WNCN (Raleigh, NC), KNSD (San Diego, CA), WRC (Washington, DC), KNTV (San Jose, CA) — as well as 14 local Telemundo stations
Cable: Telemundo, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC (partial ownership, with Microsoft), mun2, Sci-Fi Channel, TRIO, USA Network, CNBC Europe, CNBC Asia-Pacific, Telemundo Internacional, NBC Europe, plus 8 other channels in Europe and Latin America under the Sci-Fi, 13th Street, Studio Universal, and USA brands
Universal Pictures: Imagine Entertainment, Tribeca Films, Shady Acres, The Kennedy/Marshall Company, Double Feature Films, Playtone Company, Strike Entertainment, Type A Films, Depth of Field, Stephen Sommers, Working Title Films (Europe), Focus FeaturesUniversal Parks & Resorts: Universal Studios Hollywood, Universal CityWalk, Universal Orlando (Universal Studios Florida, Islands of Adventure, the 30-acre CityWalk entertainment complex, Portofino Bay Hotel, Hard Rock Hotel, and Royal Pacific Resort), Wet-n-Wild Orlando, Universal Studios Japan + CityWalk, Universal Mediterranea (Spain, includes Universal Mediterranea Theme Park, Hotel Port Aventura) Production & Distribution: NBC Universal Television Studio, NBC Universal Television Distribution (owners of more than 4,000 feature films and more than 40,000 episodes of television programming), Universal Studios Home VideoMilitary Production: Manufactures engines for the F-16 Fighter jet, Abrams tank, Apache helicopter, U2 Bomber, Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV), A-10 aircraft, and numerous military equipment including planes, helicopters, tanks, and more.
GE Consumer Finance (provider of credit services to consumers, retailers and auto dealers in over 35 countries)
GE Commercial Finance: GE Capital Aviation Services, GE Commercial Equipment Financing, GE Corporate Financial Services, GE Structured Finance Global Energy Unit, GE Fleet Services, GE Healthcare Financial Services, GE Real Estate, GE Vendor Financial Services
GE Advanced Materials (engineering of thermoplastics, silicon-based products and technology platforms, and fused quartz and ceramics)
GE Consumer & Industrial (appliances, lighting, and Industrial Systems)
GE Energy (technology for the oil and gas, power generation and energy management industries, including nuclear)
GE Healthcare (diagnostic and interventional medical imaging, information and services technology)
GE Infrastructure (comprised of GE Water Technologies, GE Silicones, GE Superabrasives, and GE Quartz, serves various industries including cosmetics, semi-conductors, oil drilling, construction and telecommunications)
GE Insurance (insurance and investment products for businesses and individuals)
GE Transportation (serving the aviation, rail, marine and off-highway industries with jet engines for military and civil aircraft, freight and passenger locomotives, motorized systems for mining trucks and drills, and gas turbines for marine and industrial applications)
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VIACOM:
2003 revenues: $26.6 billion
Viacom holdings include: CBS and UPN networks, over 35 TV stations, MTV, Showtime, Nickelodeon, BET, Paramount Pictures, Blockbuster Video, over 175 radio stations, Simon & Schuster, and vast billboard holdings (click a category for complete details)TV Networks: CBS, UPN
Cable Channels: MTV, MTV2. Nickelodeon, BET, Nick at Nite, TV Land, NOGGIN, TNN, VH1, Spike TV, CMT, Comedy Central, Showtime, The Movie Channel, Flix, Sundance Channel
Local Stations: Over 35 local TV stations, including WCBS in New York and KCBS in Los Angeles (click here for a list)
Production & Distribution: Spelling Television, Big Ticket Television, King World Productions Production Companies: Paramount Pictures, MTV Films, Nickelodeon Movies, BET Films, Paramount Home Entermatainment
Other: United Cinemas Int´l (50%), Famous Players theatre chain, Blockbuster VideoInfinity Broadcasting: Over 175 AM and FM stations located in 22 states in the nation´s largest markets (click here for a list)Simon & Schuster: Pocket Books, Scribner, The Free Press, Fireside, Touchstone, Washington Square Press, Archway, Minstrel, Pocket PulseThe Viacom Outdoor Group: TDI Worldwide, Westwood One
Themeparks: Paramount Theme Parks
Music: Famous Music (100,000+ copyrights)
Internet: MTVi Group, CBS Internet Group, Nickelodeon Online, BET.com
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TIME WARNER:
2003 revenues: $39.6 billion
TimeWarner holdings include: Warner Bros, AOL, CNN, HBO, Time Warner Cable, Turner (TNT, TBS), Cartoon Network, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock Entertainment, Atlantic Recordings, Elektra/Sire, Rhino, Time-Life Books, DC Comics, Fortune, Sports Illustrated, People, and Netscape Communications (click a category for complete details) Network: The WB
Cable Channels: HBO, CNN (and all variants, e.g. Headlines News, Airport Network, fn, International, Airport), TBS, Turner South, TNT, Cartoon Network, Turner Classic Movies, CourtTV (in part)
Time Warner Cable: Including cable service and RoadRunner broadband access
Production/Distribution: Warner Bros, Warner Bros Studios, WB Television (production), WB TV Animation, Hanna-Barbera Cartoons, Telepictures Productions, Witt-Thomas Productions, Castle Rock Entertainment, Warner Home Video, WB Pay-TV, WB domestic & int´l TV distribution, New Line Cinema, Fine Line Features, Turner Original Productions
Movie Theatres: Warner Bros. International Theaters (owns/operates multiplex theaters in over 12 countries)
Other: New York 1 News, International holdingsWarner Music Group: Atlantic (incl. Classics, Jazz, Nashville, & Theatre labels), Big Beat, Blackground, Breaking, Igloo, Lava, Mesa/Bluemoon, Modern, 1 43, Rhino Records, Elektra Entertainment Group, Elektra, EastWest, Asylum, Elektra/Sire, Warner Brothers Records, Warner Brothers, Warner Nashville, Warner Alliance, Warner Resound, Warner Sunset, Reprise, Reprise Nashville, American Recordings, Giant, Maverick, Revolution, Qwest, Warner Music International, WEA Telegram, East West ZTT, Coalition, CGD East West, China, Continential, DRO East West, Erato, Fazer, Finlandia, Magneoton, MCM, Nonesuch, Teldec
Other Recording Interests: Warner/Chappell Music (publishing company), WEA Inc. (sales, distribution and manufacturing), Ivy Hill Corporation (printing and packaging), Warner Special ProductsTime-Life Books: Time-Life Int´l, Time-Life Education, Time-Life Music, Time-Life Audiobooks, Book-of-the-Month Club, Paperback Book Club, Children´s Book-of-the-Month Club, History Book Club, Money Book Club, HomeStyle Books, Crafter´s Choice, One Spirit, International, Little, Brown and Company, Bulfinch Press, Back Bay Books, Little, Brown and Company (U.K.), Warner Books, Warner Vision, The Mysterious Press, Warner Aspect, Warner Treasures, Oxmoor House (subsidiary of Southern Progress Corporation), Leisure Arts, Sunset Books, TW Kids, Leisure Arts
Magazines: Time (incl. Time for Kids, Int´l versions, etc.), Fortune, Business 2.0, Life, Sports Illustrated (and variants), Inside Stuff, Money, Your Company, Your Future, People, (and variants), Who Weekly, Entertainment Weekly, The Ticket, InStyle, Southern Living, Progressive Farmer, Southern Accents, Cooking Light, The Parent Group (Parenting, Baby Talk, Baby on the Way), This Old House, Sunset, Sunset Garden Guide, The Health Publishing Group (Health, Hippocrates, Coastal Living, Weight Watchers), Real Simple, Asiaweek (Japan), President (Japan), Dancyu (Japan), Wallpaper (UK), Field & Stream, Freeze, Golf Magazine, Outdoor Life, Popular Science, Saltwater Sportsman, Ski, Skiing Magazine, Skiing Trade News, SNAP, Snowboard Life, Ride BMX, Today´s Homeowner, Transworld Skateboarding & Snowboarding, Verge, Yachting Magazine, Warp, partial ownership of American Express Publishing (Travel & Liesure, Food & Wine, Departures, SkyGuide), Mad Magazine
Comic Books: DC Domics, Vertigo, Paradox, MilestoneAOL: America Online, AOL Instant Messenger, AOL.com portal, AOL Europe, AOL MovieFone
Other: Netscape Communications, Netscape Netcenter portal, Winamp, CompuServe Interactive, ICQ, theknot.com (8%), MapQuest.com (pending), Spinner.com, iAmaze, Amazon.com (partial), Quack.com, Streetmail (partial), Switchboard (6%), DrKoop.com, Legend (Chinese, 49%), Africana.com Services: Road Runner, Warner Publisher Services, Time Distribution Services, American Family Publishers (50%), Pathfinder
Retail: Warner Bros. Stores & Products
Theme Parks: Warner Brothers Recreation Enterprises
Sports: Atlanta Braves, Hawks, Thrashers, Goodwill Games, Turner Sports, Philips Arena
Misc.: Turner Learning, CNN Newsroom (for classrooms), Turner Adventure Learning (electronic field trips), Turner Home Satellite, Turner Network Sales
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WALT DISNEY:
2003 revenues: $28.4 billion
The Walt Disney Company holdings include: ABC, Disney Channel, ESPN, A&E, History Channel, E!, Buena Vista, Touchstone Pictures, 10 TV stations, 60+ radio stations, ESPN Radio, Miramax Films, Hyperion Books, & theme parks. (click a category for complete details)
TV Networks: ABC
Cable Channels: ABC Family, The Disney Channel, Toon Disney, SoapNet, ESPN Inc. (80%, includes ESPN & ESPN2, ESPN News, ESPN Now, ESPN Extreme, Classic Sports Network, ESPNHD), A&E Television (37.5%, with Hearst and GE), The History Channel (with Hearst and GE), Lifetime Television (50%, with Hearst), Lifetime Movie Network (50% with Hearst), E! Entertainment (with Comcast and Liberty Media)
International Broadcast: The Disney Channel UK, The Disney Channel Taiwan, The Disney Channel Australia, The Disney Channel Malaysia, The Disney Channel France, The Disney Channel Middle East, The Disney Channel Italy, The Disney Channel Spain, ESPN INC. International Ventures, Sportsvision of Australia (25%), ESPN Brazil (50%), ESPN STAR (50%) - sports programming throughout Asia, Net STAR (33%) owners of The Sports Network of Canada
Production & Distribution: Buena Vista Television, Touchstone Television, Walt Disney Television, Walt Disney Television Animation
Local Stations: 10 stations including KABC (Los Angeles), WABC (New York City), WLS (Chicago), WJRT (Flint), KFSN (Fresno), KTRK (Houston), WPVI (Philadelphia), WTVD (Raleigh-Durham), KGO (San Francisco), WTVG (Toledo) Radio Disney, ESPN Radio (syndicated programming)
Over 60 local stations: WKHX (Atlanta), WYAY (Atlanta), WDWD (Atlanta), WMVP (Chicago), WLS (Chicago), WZZN (Chicago), WRDZ (Chicago), WBAP (Dallas), KSCS (Dallas), KMEO (Dallas), KESN (Dallas), KMKI (Dallas), WDRQ (Detroit), WJR (Detroit), WDVD (Detroit), KABC (Los Angeles), KLOS (Los Angeles), KDIS (Los Angeles), KSPN (Los Angeles), KQRS (Minneapolis - St. Paul), KXXR (Minneapolis - St. Paul), KDIZ (Minneapolis - St. Paul), WGVX (Minneapolis - St. Paul), WGVY (Minneapolis - St. Paul), WGVZ (Minneapolis - St. Paul), WABC (New York City), WPLJ (New York City), WQEW (New York City), WEVD (New York City), KGO (San Francisco), KSFO (San Francisco), KIID (Sacramento), KMKY (Oakland), WMAL (Washington DC), WJZW (Washington DC), WRQX (Washington DC), KQAM (Wichita), KKDZ (Seattle), WSDZ (St. Louis), WWMK (Cleveland), KMIX (Phoenix), KADZ (Denver), KDDZ (Denver), WWMI (Tampa), KMIC (Houston), WMYM (Miami), WWJZ (Philadelphia), WMKI (Boston), WDZK (Hartford), WDDZ (Providence), WDZY (Richmond), WGFY (Charlotte), WDYZ (Orland), WMNE (West Palm Beach), WEAE (Pittsburgh), WDRD (Louisville), WPPY (Albany), NY), KPHN (Kansas City), WQUA (Mobile), WBML (Jacksonville), WFDF (Flint), WFRO (Fremont), OH), WDMV (Damascus), MD), WHKT (Norfolk)Production/Development: Disney Interactive, ABC Internet Group, ESPN Internet Group
Websites: ABC.com, ABCNews.com, Oscar.com, Disney.com, Family.com, ESPN.com, Soccernet.co (60%), NFL.com, NBA.com, NASCAR.com, Toysmart.com (partial), Go Network
Other: Mr. Showbiz, Disney´s Daily Blast, Skillgames, Wall of Sound Movie Production & Distribution: Walt Disney Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Caravan Pictures, Miramax Films, Buena Vista Home Video, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Buena Vista International
Music: Buena Vista Music Group, Hollywood Records (popular music and soundtracks for motion pictures), Lyric Street Records (Nashville based country music label), Mammoth Records (popular and alternative music label), Walt Disney Records Book Publishing: Walt Disney Company Book Publishing, Hyperion Books, Miramax Books
Magazine Groups: ABC Publishing Group, Disney Publishing, Inc., Diversified Publications Group, Financial Services and Medical Group, Miller Publishing Company
Magazines: Automotive Industries, Biography (w/ GE and Hearst), Discover, Disney Adventures, Disney Magazine, ECN News, ESPN Magazine (dist. by Hearst), Family Fun, Institutional Investor, JCK, Kentucky Prairie Farmer, Kodin, Top Famille (French), US Weekly (50%), Video Business, Quality
Theatrical Productions: Walt Disney Theatrical Productions (productions include stage version of The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, King David)
Theme Parks & Resorts: Disneyland (Anaheim), Disney-MGM Studios, Disneyland Paris, Disney Regional Entertainment (entertainment and theme dining in metro areas), Disneyland Resort, Disney Vacation Club, Epcot, Magic Kingdom, Tokyo Disneyland (partial ownership), Walt Disney World (Orlando, FL, includes Epcot, Magic Kingdom, Sports Complex, etc.), Disney´s Animal Kingdom, Disney Cruise Line, The Disney Institute
Sports: Anaheim Sports, Inc., Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (NHL)
Retail: The Disney Store
Financial: Sid R. Bass crude petroleum and natural gas production (partial interest)
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VIVENDI UNIVERSAL:
2003 revenues: €25.5 billion (roughly $30.1 billion)
Vivendi Universal owns: CANAL+, Cineplex Odeon Theatres (42%), MCA Records, PolyGram Records, Vivendi Telecom, and 26.8 million shares of TimeWarner stock (click a category for complete details)
Vivendi Universal recently sold its cable and movie properties (Universal Pictures, Sci-Fi Channel, and USA Network) to GE/NBC. Production & Distribution: CANAL+ (51%, European pay-TV provider), Brillstein-Grey Entertainment (50%, production), Multimedia Entertainment, plus partial ownership of: HBO Asia Telecine (Brazil) Cinecanal (Latin America), Showtime (Australia) Star Channel (Japan), Telepiu (Italian pay television)Production & Distribution: October Films (majority interest), United International Pictures (33% - international distribution), Cinema International BV (49% - video distribution)
Theatres: Cineplex Odeon Corporation (42%), Cinema International Corporation (49%), United Cinemas International (49%)Universal Music Group: MCA Records, MCA Records Nashville, Polygram, Motown, Decca Records, Deutsche Grammophon, GRP Recording Company, Geffen/DGC Records, Universal Records, Rising Tide, Interscope Records, Hip-O Records, Universal Music and Video Distribution, Universal Music International, MCA Music Publishing, Interscope Music Publishing, All Nations Catalog, Universal Concerts (concert promotion) Production: Universal Studios New Media Group, Universal Studios Online, Vivendi Universal Games (software and video games), Universal Digital Arts, Interplay (majority ownership - video game producer), Vizzavi (European multi-access portal)
Websites: Education.com, Flipside.com, GetMusic (online music retailer), @viso (50% with Softbank), Allocin, Bonjour.fr, Ad2-One, Atmedica, Scoot, EMusic.com, Duet (with Sony), MP3.com Telecom: Vivendi Telecom International, Cegetel (leading private land-line operator in France), SFR (leading private mobile operator in France), Maroc Telecom (35% owner Ð leading land-line and mobile operator in Morocco)
Retail: Spencer Gifts
Misc.: Vivendi Environnement (the world´s #1 water distributor), Viventures (venture capital fund), Duet (music-subscription service with Yahoo! and Sony)
Vivendi Universal owns 26.8 million shares in TimeWarner
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BERTELSMAN:
2003 revenues: €16.8 billion (roughly $19.8 billion)
Bertelsmann AG´s holdings include: 11 TV networks, Random House Publishing (which includes Alfred A. Knopf, Ballantine, Doubleday, among many others), BMG Music, Arista Records and RCA Records (click a category for complete details) |
| Reznor Redeemed
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
the kid´s response to hearing this was to say:
"totally righteous, man"
his mom says: "would ye ever get on wit yer feckin boycott of MTV already, fer crissake?"
what didjoo expect from the House of Sumner "murray rothstein" Redstone anyway?
integrity? |
| idol harobed
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
I do not care. |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
mtv sucks govt run every since the 90´s. |
| anders
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
we do not care that you do not care |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
Imagine the power that someone like Murdoch must feel when he edicts a certain point of view by his statements and selection of managers, personalities, (Hannity, O´Reilly,etc.....and ends up brainwashing millions of people to his point of view? That´s a godlike power.
"Can we change the world?, Hell no, but we can try" - Rupert Murdoch |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
It´s interesting to know that you don´t care about freedom of speech, Idol. I would have expected more from you, really, being that I see you as a person with higher than normal intelligence. Maybe I was wrong? |
| REAL Dave nli
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
Idol cares for nothing except her gov´t slave wages and her boyfriends little dick.
I´m glad the NIN thing was an anti bush stance. I was wondering.
remember the song "head like a hole?"
fuck the gov´t, fuck big business, and FUCK IDOL HAROBED!
dave |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
I think the appropriate line from "Head Like A Hole" for Idol and her nonchalant attitude towards censorship would be "bow down before the one you serve, you´re going to get what you deserve"! |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
yep |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
I wonder if this is the image that MTV refused?
Hahahahahaha. |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
 for 4014 |
| Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:16 AM | | Re: Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop | Quote |
yeah, Trent had to kill nothing records but i think that it will be back since he won his lawsuit against his former manager John "Shit Face" Malm.
and for thoes who care, here are the lyrics to the song they were going to perform:
You´re keeping in step in the line
Got your chin held high and you feel just fine
Because you do what you´re told
But inside your heart it is black and it´s hollow and it´s cold
Just how deep do you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?
Can you get up off your knees?
Are you brave enough to see?
Do you want to change it?
What if this whole crusade´s a charade
And behind it all there´s a price to be paid
For the blood on which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine
Just how deep to you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?
Can you get up off your knees?
Are you brave enough to see?
Do you want to change it?
So naive to keep holding on to what I want to believe
And I can see but I keep holding on and on and on and on
Will you bite the hand that feeds you
Or will you stay down on your knees? |
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