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and try reason and logic before you ask clouds why it rains.
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Reason-n-logic was a prior handle for me on this religious forum (used to be conspiracy forum).

Your types like reason and logic, only when it serves your purpose...then you go back to being irrational and illogical.

Your rhetoric betrays you, you pretend to be rational and logical, but have failed to demonstrate it yet.

I see right thru you, as you are so transparent.
 Quoting: ADSR


talking to the two of you is like trying to argue with high-schoolers. they don't give up, and nothing they say makes sense enough to make a response worth it.

grow up, douchebag.

there are things to learn once you think you have mastered reason and logic. and i can guarantee you haven't if you still use tarot.
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Maybe it is because you guys haven't said anything really useful to make your point, just attack, attack, whine, whine.

A: I don't like cake.
B: Fuck you!
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i think you lost a few brain cells in the memory transfer.

anyone reading this can see the points i've made, even if they are some of the first substantial ones against tarot.
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i said that wrong.

obama is working for peace, against his handlers wishes.

will you help us, so our petty differences can be put aside?
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Finally. Yes.

Peace, yes.
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i told you em, she dont like you, drop the charade and lets pull down the fucking pyramid.

both of them.
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we really have a chance at this.
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omg this thread was created when doomtards failed last year in october, its still going on!

yeahsure
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Reason-n-logic was a prior handle for me on this religious forum (used to be conspiracy forum).

Your types like reason and logic, only when it serves your purpose...then you go back to being irrational and illogical.

Your rhetoric betrays you, you pretend to be rational and logical, but have failed to demonstrate it yet.

I see right thru you, as you are so transparent.
 Quoting: ADSR


talking to the two of you is like trying to argue with high-schoolers. they don't give up, and nothing they say makes sense enough to make a response worth it.

grow up, douchebag.

there are things to learn once you think you have mastered reason and logic. and i can guarantee you haven't if you still use tarot.
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Maybe it is because you guys haven't said anything really useful to make your point, just attack, attack, whine, whine.

A: I don't like cake.
B: Fuck you!
 Quoting: AkashicRecord


are you with us in peace?

this is what we work for.

the tarot is a toll for manipulation, its just that i cant waste all my time because i am fighting monumental amounts of trolls that want our president to be someone he is not.

a man who broke his handlers hold and is working for peace.

the tarot is a chain that binds us, would you shackle yourself willingly?

of course not.

think em, or stfu, i dont want to be your enemy, but i will be, and you dont want that.

i am a poet too.
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he means this dude, and i would like if we were on the same side, too.

i said something about tarot in the first place, because i actually wanted to help with just a new thought.

i feel more strongly about it than i'm letting on, because i do want every person to be free and empowered.

hf
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omg this thread was created when doomtards failed last year in october, its still going on!

yeahsure
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its a little more than that amigo, time to take part in your own transformation.

hf
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Ban everything that isn't prefaced with "PRAISE THE LORD, Praise Jesus, Jesus loves you so you should read the bible, accept Jesus Now, Don't let Satan deceive you and drag you to hell, pray to Jesus Now...


If it isn't doesn't fit in with the christian motifs and memes, then it is inherently evil and will deceive you and send you to HELL!
 Quoting: ADSR


lol, if you feel that way.

we're not christian, we're just smarter than tarot.
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


read my other post...I said you sound like an evangelical, not that you were.

Smarter than Tarot? What does that mean? Are you aware of what you are even talking about? You are demonstrating your ignorance.

Why don't you go do your own research, instead of listening to zealots than are misinformed and clueless. That way you'd do all a favor.

Either that, or just shut your face now.
 Quoting: ADSR


okay, let me be REALLY specific for your dumb ass.

Me the dumb ass, for not seeing it your way? My dumb ass has more intelligence than your whole being...which isn't saying much, but still makes the point.

we're not religious.

Exactly who are you speaking on behalf of?
I'd like to challenge that notion and assert that you are religious.


you used 'what does that mean' and 'your ignorance' in the same paragraph. ironic.

You fail to make a point, as well as fail to answer the question. So yes, you do demonstrate ignorance, based on your rhetoric. You show your hand.

i've done plenty of research, even used to use tarot, and probably got similar or better results than other people who use it.

No, it sounds like you have an axe to grind, and the constant need to compare yourself against all others, but only in the most favorable light, for yourself exclusively. This has been demonstrated consistently on this forum, as I've seen your diatribe on other threads. You like to insult everyone that disagrees with you, while pretending to be rational. You are not rational, nor have you demonstrated rationality on this forum that I have seen yet. If you have, please show me.


however, i grew up a little, found myself a little more, and came to some realizations about it, including that tarot is unnecessary,

Now you are being condescending. You are a POS, that I have no doubt about it, you and everyone just like you, and I'd love to say it to your face. You make "realizations" that
seem to reinforce your narcissism, which you exude in abundance.


and often detrimental to personal growth...

Yes, you are the epitomy of personal growth, high minded, self absorbed, arrogant, superior, stubborn, obstinate, and please do continue pontificating your drivel.




and knowledge
(and yes, that includes magical knowledge if you need that specified too).


Knowledge of any kind does not interest me...it make people delusional and arrogant. For a clear example of that right now, you just go look in the mirrror and there it is.

Theory, and awareness only...no knowledge...just like Socrates. How many times do I have say this on this religious forum for you religious zealots to get it?




i really think if you applied your opinion of religitards to the use of tarot, you would realize something similar to what i did:


No, I don't have an opinion, I have a premise, argument and logical conclusion, with a challenge...to any of you...show up with money, and put your money where your mouth is. Show me what you got, other than high minded diatribe that you can't back up. You are the one with opinions, opinions that you have failed to rationalize yet.



ritual magic is to self expression
as religion is to spirituality

We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that.

Everybody claims to be spiritual, and not religious. This is almost cliche.

I am into philosophy, not religion, or "spirituality", whatever that is.

Philosophy is the highest and best use of the mind...and religion is the lowest use of the mind. Science is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Greek Thought here, don't confuse my school of thought for anything else, chump! and you are most certain
ly a chump, no problem kickin you to the curb, CHUMP!


 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
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Looking through a window made of time. Would you find the courage not to lie?

Ok?

Kash is no marshall mathers...more awol.

We all want the same thing. Peace and freedom to live and believe as we want to. You live in fear because of what others have told you. Restrictions.

We live in love because we know that loving resistance is what will win out in the end. Sometimes love is tough. Truth and justice sometimes cause pain and reflection.

One of the other trumps you so incorrectly identified because of the veil still drawn over your face.

My friends and i we cracked the code. We prefer a different kind of buzzzz.

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hi, how ya doing.. yur funny, but i wont read your comment, it is filled with sickness that i cant endorse.

here is a hug.

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lol, if you feel that way.

we're not christian, we're just smarter than tarot.
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


read my other post...I said you sound like an evangelical, not that you were.

Smarter than Tarot? What does that mean? Are you aware of what you are even talking about? You are demonstrating your ignorance.

Why don't you go do your own research, instead of listening to zealots than are misinformed and clueless. That way you'd do all a favor.

Either that, or just shut your face now.
 Quoting: ADSR


okay, let me be REALLY specific for your dumb ass.

Me the dumb ass, for not seeing it your way? My dumb ass has more intelligence than your whole being...which isn't saying much, but still makes the point.

we're not religious.

Exactly who are you speaking on behalf of?
I'd like to challenge that notion and assert that you are religious.


you used 'what does that mean' and 'your ignorance' in the same paragraph. ironic.

You fail to make a point, as well as fail to answer the question. So yes, you do demonstrate ignorance, based on your rhetoric. You show your hand.

i've done plenty of research, even used to use tarot, and probably got similar or better results than other people who use it.

No, it sounds like you have an axe to grind, and the constant need to compare yourself against all others, but only in the most favorable light, for yourself exclusively. This has been demonstrated consistently on this forum, as I've seen your diatribe on other threads. You like to insult everyone that disagrees with you, while pretending to be rational. You are not rational, nor have you demonstrated rationality on this forum that I have seen yet. If you have, please show me.


however, i grew up a little, found myself a little more, and came to some realizations about it, including that tarot is unnecessary,

Now you are being condescending. You are a POS, that I have no doubt about it, you and everyone just like you, and I'd love to say it to your face. You make "realizations" that
seem to reinforce your narcissism, which you exude in abundance.


and often detrimental to personal growth...

Yes, you are the epitomy of personal growth, high minded, self absorbed, arrogant, superior, stubborn, obstinate, and please do continue pontificating your drivel.




and knowledge
(and yes, that includes magical knowledge if you need that specified too).


Knowledge of any kind does not interest me...it make people delusional and arrogant. For a clear example of that right now, you just go look in the mirrror and there it is.

Theory, and awareness only...no knowledge...just like Socrates. How many times do I have say this on this religious forum for you religious zealots to get it?




i really think if you applied your opinion of religitards to the use of tarot, you would realize something similar to what i did:


No, I don't have an opinion, I have a premise, argument and logical conclusion, with a challenge...to any of you...show up with money, and put your money where your mouth is. Show me what you got, other than high minded diatribe that you can't back up. You are the one with opinions, opinions that you have failed to rationalize yet.



ritual magic is to self expression
as religion is to spirituality

We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that.

Everybody claims to be spiritual, and not religious. This is almost cliche.

I am into philosophy, not religion, or "spirituality", whatever that is.

Philosophy is the highest and best use of the mind...and religion is the lowest use of the mind. Science is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Greek Thought here, don't confuse my school of thought for anything else, chump! and you are most certain
ly a chump, no problem kickin you to the curb, CHUMP!


 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
 Quoting: ADSR


you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.

hf
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lol, if you feel that way.

we're not christian, we're just smarter than tarot.
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


read my other post...I said you sound like an evangelical, not that you were.

Smarter than Tarot? What does that mean? Are you aware of what you are even talking about? You are demonstrating your ignorance.

Why don't you go do your own research, instead of listening to zealots than are misinformed and clueless. That way you'd do all a favor.

Either that, or just shut your face now.
 Quoting: ADSR


okay, let me be REALLY specific for your dumb ass.

Me the dumb ass, for not seeing it your way? My dumb ass has more intelligence than your whole being...which isn't saying much, but still makes the point.

we're not religious.

Exactly who are you speaking on behalf of?
I'd like to challenge that notion and assert that you are religious.


you used 'what does that mean' and 'your ignorance' in the same paragraph. ironic.

You fail to make a point, as well as fail to answer the question. So yes, you do demonstrate ignorance, based on your rhetoric. You show your hand.

i've done plenty of research, even used to use tarot, and probably got similar or better results than other people who use it.

No, it sounds like you have an axe to grind, and the constant need to compare yourself against all others, but only in the most favorable light, for yourself exclusively. This has been demonstrated consistently on this forum, as I've seen your diatribe on other threads. You like to insult everyone that disagrees with you, while pretending to be rational. You are not rational, nor have you demonstrated rationality on this forum that I have seen yet. If you have, please show me.


however, i grew up a little, found myself a little more, and came to some realizations about it, including that tarot is unnecessary,

Now you are being condescending. You are a POS, that I have no doubt about it, you and everyone just like you, and I'd love to say it to your face. You make "realizations" that
seem to reinforce your narcissism, which you exude in abundance.


and often detrimental to personal growth...

Yes, you are the epitomy of personal growth, high minded, self absorbed, arrogant, superior, stubborn, obstinate, and please do continue pontificating your drivel.




and knowledge
(and yes, that includes magical knowledge if you need that specified too).


Knowledge of any kind does not interest me...it make people delusional and arrogant. For a clear example of that right now, you just go look in the mirrror and there it is.

Theory, and awareness only...no knowledge...just like Socrates. How many times do I have say this on this religious forum for you religious zealots to get it?




i really think if you applied your opinion of religitards to the use of tarot, you would realize something similar to what i did:


No, I don't have an opinion, I have a premise, argument and logical conclusion, with a challenge...to any of you...show up with money, and put your money where your mouth is. Show me what you got, other than high minded diatribe that you can't back up. You are the one with opinions, opinions that you have failed to rationalize yet.



ritual magic is to self expression
as religion is to spirituality

We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that.

Everybody claims to be spiritual, and not religious. This is almost cliche.

I am into philosophy, not religion, or "spirituality", whatever that is.

Philosophy is the highest and best use of the mind...and religion is the lowest use of the mind. Science is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Greek Thought here, don't confuse my school of thought for anything else, chump! and you are most certain
ly a chump, no problem kickin you to the curb, CHUMP!


 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
 Quoting: ADSR


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read my other post...I said you sound like an evangelical, not that you were.

Smarter than Tarot? What does that mean? Are you aware of what you are even talking about? You are demonstrating your ignorance.

Why don't you go do your own research, instead of listening to zealots than are misinformed and clueless. That way you'd do all a favor.

Either that, or just shut your face now.
 Quoting: ADSR


okay, let me be REALLY specific for your dumb ass.

Me the dumb ass, for not seeing it your way? My dumb ass has more intelligence than your whole being...which isn't saying much, but still makes the point.

we're not religious.

Exactly who are you speaking on behalf of?
I'd like to challenge that notion and assert that you are religious.


you used 'what does that mean' and 'your ignorance' in the same paragraph. ironic.

You fail to make a point, as well as fail to answer the question. So yes, you do demonstrate ignorance, based on your rhetoric. You show your hand.

i've done plenty of research, even used to use tarot, and probably got similar or better results than other people who use it.

No, it sounds like you have an axe to grind, and the constant need to compare yourself against all others, but only in the most favorable light, for yourself exclusively. This has been demonstrated consistently on this forum, as I've seen your diatribe on other threads. You like to insult everyone that disagrees with you, while pretending to be rational. You are not rational, nor have you demonstrated rationality on this forum that I have seen yet. If you have, please show me.


however, i grew up a little, found myself a little more, and came to some realizations about it, including that tarot is unnecessary,

Now you are being condescending. You are a POS, that I have no doubt about it, you and everyone just like you, and I'd love to say it to your face. You make "realizations" that
seem to reinforce your narcissism, which you exude in abundance.


and often detrimental to personal growth...

Yes, you are the epitomy of personal growth, high minded, self absorbed, arrogant, superior, stubborn, obstinate, and please do continue pontificating your drivel.




and knowledge
(and yes, that includes magical knowledge if you need that specified too).


Knowledge of any kind does not interest me...it make people delusional and arrogant. For a clear example of that right now, you just go look in the mirrror and there it is.

Theory, and awareness only...no knowledge...just like Socrates. How many times do I have say this on this religious forum for you religious zealots to get it?




i really think if you applied your opinion of religitards to the use of tarot, you would realize something similar to what i did:


No, I don't have an opinion, I have a premise, argument and logical conclusion, with a challenge...to any of you...show up with money, and put your money where your mouth is. Show me what you got, other than high minded diatribe that you can't back up. You are the one with opinions, opinions that you have failed to rationalize yet.



ritual magic is to self expression
as religion is to spirituality

We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that.

Everybody claims to be spiritual, and not religious. This is almost cliche.

I am into philosophy, not religion, or "spirituality", whatever that is.

Philosophy is the highest and best use of the mind...and religion is the lowest use of the mind. Science is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Greek Thought here, don't confuse my school of thought for anything else, chump! and you are most certain
ly a chump, no problem kickin you to the curb, CHUMP!


 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
 Quoting: ADSR


you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.

hf
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Well, you started the fight, and I'm game.

You called for truce, and I'm game.

Your point about 'kbowledge' is given.

OK, let's start over.

My point on 'ritual magic' is that it is pretension and artifice
Therefore, not worthwile and as you noted, not genuine to true self expression. That point is also a given if you wish.

I'm also into Jungian psychology, and approach Tarot from that angle, and that angle only. All others are defective.

I'll argue my points for myself, and not defend others in their use of Tarot as religion. That is something we also probably agree with.

I agree, if it just a pissing match, then what's the point?
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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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okay, let me be REALLY specific for your dumb ass.

Me the dumb ass, for not seeing it your way? My dumb ass has more intelligence than your whole being...which isn't saying much, but still makes the point.

we're not religious.

Exactly who are you speaking on behalf of?
I'd like to challenge that notion and assert that you are religious.


you used 'what does that mean' and 'your ignorance' in the same paragraph. ironic.

You fail to make a point, as well as fail to answer the question. So yes, you do demonstrate ignorance, based on your rhetoric. You show your hand.

i've done plenty of research, even used to use tarot, and probably got similar or better results than other people who use it.

No, it sounds like you have an axe to grind, and the constant need to compare yourself against all others, but only in the most favorable light, for yourself exclusively. This has been demonstrated consistently on this forum, as I've seen your diatribe on other threads. You like to insult everyone that disagrees with you, while pretending to be rational. You are not rational, nor have you demonstrated rationality on this forum that I have seen yet. If you have, please show me.


however, i grew up a little, found myself a little more, and came to some realizations about it, including that tarot is unnecessary,

Now you are being condescending. You are a POS, that I have no doubt about it, you and everyone just like you, and I'd love to say it to your face. You make "realizations" that
seem to reinforce your narcissism, which you exude in abundance.


and often detrimental to personal growth...

Yes, you are the epitomy of personal growth, high minded, self absorbed, arrogant, superior, stubborn, obstinate, and please do continue pontificating your drivel.




and knowledge
(and yes, that includes magical knowledge if you need that specified too).


Knowledge of any kind does not interest me...it make people delusional and arrogant. For a clear example of that right now, you just go look in the mirrror and there it is.

Theory, and awareness only...no knowledge...just like Socrates. How many times do I have say this on this religious forum for you religious zealots to get it?




i really think if you applied your opinion of religitards to the use of tarot, you would realize something similar to what i did:


No, I don't have an opinion, I have a premise, argument and logical conclusion, with a challenge...to any of you...show up with money, and put your money where your mouth is. Show me what you got, other than high minded diatribe that you can't back up. You are the one with opinions, opinions that you have failed to rationalize yet.



ritual magic is to self expression
as religion is to spirituality

We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that.

Everybody claims to be spiritual, and not religious. This is almost cliche.

I am into philosophy, not religion, or "spirituality", whatever that is.

Philosophy is the highest and best use of the mind...and religion is the lowest use of the mind. Science is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Greek Thought here, don't confuse my school of thought for anything else, chump! and you are most certain
ly a chump, no problem kickin you to the curb, CHUMP!


 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
 Quoting: ADSR


you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.

hf
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Well, you started the fight, and I'm game.

You called for truce, and I'm game.

Your point about 'kbowledge' is given.

OK, let's start over.

My point on 'ritual magic' is that it is pretension and artifice
Therefore, not worthwile and as you noted, not genuine to true self expression. That point is also a given if you wish.

I'm also into Jungian psychology, and approach Tarot from that angle, and that angle only. All others are defective.

I'll argue my points for myself, and not defend others in their use of Tarot as religion. That is something we also probably agree with.

I agree, if it just a pissing match, then what's the point?
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thank you for being willing to drop it right now.

hf

what other interests do you have that aren't tarot?
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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.
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Well, you started the fight, and I'm game.

You called for truce, and I'm game.

Your point about 'kbowledge' is given.

OK, let's start over.

My point on 'ritual magic' is that it is pretension and artifice
Therefore, not worthwile and as you noted, not genuine to true self expression. That point is also a given if you wish.

I'm also into Jungian psychology, and approach Tarot from that angle, and that angle only. All others are defective.

I'll argue my points for myself, and not defend others in their use of Tarot as religion. That is something we also probably agree with.

I agree, if it just a pissing match, then what's the point?


thank you for being willing to drop it right now.

hf

what other interests do you have that aren't tarot?


like, name 2 or 3 maybe
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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.
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that was my point all along.

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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.
 Quoting: ADSR


we agree.

hf
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Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!
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you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.

hf
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


Well, you started the fight, and I'm game.

You called for truce, and I'm game.

Your point about 'kbowledge' is given.

OK, let's start over.

My point on 'ritual magic' is that it is pretension and artifice
Therefore, not worthwile and as you noted, not genuine to true self expression. That point is also a given if you wish.

I'm also into Jungian psychology, and approach Tarot from that angle, and that angle only. All others are defective.

I'll argue my points for myself, and not defend others in their use of Tarot as religion. That is something we also probably agree with.

I agree, if it just a pissing match, then what's the point?
 Quoting: ADSR


thank you for being willing to drop it right now.

hf

what other interests do you have that aren't tarot?
 Quoting: eurydicekingstone


I'm more interested in the work of Carl Jung than tarot itself. Without Jung, I'm completely disinterested in tarot, just to clarify that issue.

I'm also interested in Wolfgang Pauli's work, as a quantum physicist and his work with Jung.

From my perspective, Quantum Mechanics is the real deal, it is where physics and metaphysics meet.

So I'm basically greek thought + Jung + QM, with a study of eastern and western philosophy.

How about yourself?
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we need to start relying on ourselves in all things.

and fighting sucks, unless you like sparring.

so lets pick a different topic.

hey,, did yall hear the illuminati was made an offer they couldnt refuse?
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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.
 Quoting: ADSR


we agree.

hf
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Jung, the collective unconscious, and arche-types, that's it. Sounds like you get it.
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we need to start relying on ourselves in all things.

and fighting sucks, unless you like sparring.

so lets pick a different topic.

hey,, did yall hear the illuminati was made an offer they couldnt refuse?
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:oh-boy:
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we need to start relying on ourselves in all things.

and fighting sucks, unless you like sparring.

so lets pick a different topic.

hey,, did yall hear the illuminati was made an offer they couldnt refuse?
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


:oh-boy:
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only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?
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Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.
 Quoting: ADSR


we agree.

hf
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


Jung, the collective unconscious, and arche-types, that's it. Sounds like you get it.
 Quoting: ADSR


i would only add joseph campbell into the mix..

he did some pretty good work too.
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we need to start relying on ourselves in all things.

and fighting sucks, unless you like sparring.

so lets pick a different topic.

hey,, did yall hear the illuminati was made an offer they couldnt refuse?
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:oh-boy:
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you should have played him a Card, he loves that ;D
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we need to start relying on ourselves in all things.

and fighting sucks, unless you like sparring.

so lets pick a different topic.

hey,, did yall hear the illuminati was made an offer they couldnt refuse?
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


:oh-boy:
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you should have played him a Card, he loves that ;D
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divination is not derived from a deck of cards or a Ouija.

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