The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.

- Second question. What is Jesus saying about magicians?

- Second question. What is Jesus saying about magicians?


Jesus in his time was not so much against the magicians as the rest of the OT would make you think so.
The ones called the serpents were later burned on the stake as magicians/witches.

Be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove.

He gave much attention to Mary Magdalene who, according to the Illuminatis was a black witch.

Have a nice Sunday Nut

You collectively have chased away Mel a high priest...........
You are working on chasing away Q........
a 777 density being.......... Father
I will stay for now and you can chase me away too........... i am just a brother.... exactly like you......
a 3D soul wishing to grow
the you will die and in 5D you will judge yourself.........
knowing oyu gave yourself all possible witnesses. And you will judge that you must return to 3D and start again.
So Brother.......... 2 plus 2 does equal 4.
If there was a way to show you......... to help you see......... get past your ego..........
I would
Bruce



Bruce, can I just ask you 2 questions?

- What do you think is the path of a magician? And I'm not talking Gandalf-style here, but real life magician OTO/Golden Dawn/Theurgy/Goetia-fashion. Is this path STO or STS?

Honnest answer please, no mindfuckery or twisted logic. Is the path of the operative magician STS or STO? This path being described as a pursuit for knowledge and power over the forces that govern this world, in order to understand and submit them to the magician's will.

STS or STO?



- Second question. What is Jesus saying about magicians?



I'm really looking forward to your answers Bruce, so please take some time to respond to my post :)

Thank you brother

Have a nice Sunday Nut


I wish you a nice Sunday too. I'm off to have some rounds in water to regain some fitness after caring for children in the last years . My preferred activity is diving...I don't know if it is because we are for once in an environment away from electromagnetic waves... It does well to the body to be immersed.

This is Pathetic.

Absolutely Pathetic.

However much I am Ashamed of Myself

I Do Beleive I'm Ashamed of you All

Even More.

I Don't think I'll be back here again.

Or at least I Hope not.

Adios cretans.

I'd honestly rather Listen to Illuminator

And That's Saying something.

hi Belgium, my apologies, YAH bless you with the beginning of His(generic, male and female made He them in His image)Wisdom and may you not end up like quorum, amen.

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hi Belgium, my apologies, YAH bless you with the beginning of His(generic, male and female made He them in His image)Wisdom and may you not end up like quorum, amen.


Thank you China :) You never offended me. For to be offended is to give the criticism validity, because the Ego sees truth in it and feel threatened.

I don't know if you speak Chinese, but if yes, ni hao and xie xie ni for your kind words ;)

You collectively have chased away Mel a high priest...........
You are working on chasing away Q........
a 777 density being.......... Father
I will stay for now and you can chase me away too........... i am just a brother.... exactly like you......
a 3D soul wishing to grow
the you will die and in 5D you will judge yourself.........
knowing oyu gave yourself all possible witnesses. And you will judge that you must return to 3D and start again.
So Brother.......... 2 plus 2 does equal 4.
If there was a way to show you......... to help you see......... get past your ego..........
I would
Bruce



Bruce, can I just ask you 2 questions?

- What do you think is the path of a magician? And I'm not talking Gandalf-style here, but real life magician OTO/Golden Dawn/Theurgy/Goetia-fashion. Is this path STO or STS?

Honnest answer please, no mindfuckery or twisted logic. Is the path of the operative magician STS or STO? This path being described as a pursuit for knowledge and power over the forces that govern this world, in order to understand and submit them to the magician's will.

STS or STO?



- Second question. What is Jesus saying about magicians?



I'm really looking forward to your answers Bruce, so please take some time to respond to my post :)

Thank you brother


Bruce, in case you wonder why am I asking, you probably noticed that in this thread Quorum professed to be a magician. And a powerful one if we have to believe him.



Now, he also called himself Ipsissimus and that is a Arcanum Arcanorum grade, which is an order created by Crowley.

I wouldn't call the Golden Dawn magicians, Arcanum Arcanorum or good ol'Crowley among the "Healer" type of magicians in this world. Quite the contrary, sex-addict Crowley openly professed his views about the ego ("do what thou wilt", you know the drift...) and called himself the wickedest man around. Not from me, from him.


Isn't that a bit strange that Quorum is so eager to preach about "selfless mindset", yet coming from a line of magicians known for their huge egos, which also led them to actually fight with each other to create their own orders?

Isn't that a bit paradoxical that the one who lectures us about humility is so eager to boast about his many titles, and to remind us about his most highest nature?

Why is he so good at finger-pointing, and so bad at introspection? A good jester actually... He perfectly well caricatures our defects to make them more apparent to us.
In that regard, he his indeed a good teacher, and I respect him for that.




There is only one Truth in this world, and it isn't Ego VS Selfless, or Good VS Bad. The only Truth is the universal Love, professed all along human history by universal men.

Quorum most certainly isn't showing that universal Love in his lectures here. And about Melchi, it has been proven there are different Melchis on this thread so I won't make any assumptions here about them, but one of them surely isn't the one he say he is. Deception much?




Choose your mentors wisely Brother, there are many on this thread and you absolutely do not need to stick to one if you know that God speaks to you through each one of them. The problem is to understand the message correctly :)

quorum, this is one of the charges against you:

For the time that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if first at us, what shall the end of them that obey not the gospel of God?

You do not obey His Gospel, you counterfeit it, which is even worse.

So thusly let this manifest in YAHshua/Jesus name for/in/through and around you, amen

Isa 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; amen and amen

Be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove.

Some will get it many wont it is the way it will be, you are currently a wont contiune as you like but know this in the timeless moment will you see my true face and it will judge you on the fruits of your labour.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

Flesh as the serpent [link to deoxy.org] ; [link to media.giantbomb.com]

And Spirit as the dove [link to www.fearlessromantic.com]

What, you don't like the idea of Souls going on and on and on â?¦.Infinitum
Free from this dark realm of illusion and entrapment
this freedom you talk about is a level of density you have not yet achieved
but it is truth
you could be this but you have to pass the dimentional curtain
for at the moment as Q has said.......
it is "appearimg" you are more likely to cease than progress
but it is true this is 4D reality
But again I state you have not achieved this yet
NOt learned the lessons to progress,
Bruce

Lol
How do you know I am not already there - my origin - you say I haven't achieved yet silly ol BruceQ – that does not compute.

I am there RIGHT NOW as we sit here wasting 'time' in this flimsy reality

I am more THERE than HERE (and higher than you would imagine)
I am only projecting here
and many from here are there with me
It is where we come from
and where we return

Feed that through your processor and see what happens.


Untrue we checked your not even out of this density it is clear to us that you dont even under the most basic of cycle concepts that you are not above 3rd density, you may continue to delude yourself with the lies of newagers if you like, they will find out the hard way that they are not in the heavens and are still in the birthing process, nor are they one with God hence there lack of understanding.

It is best your realise where you are in understanding and become humble and learn from those above your understanding, for it is clear to us you know very little and are not ready to know more hence you egocentric approach to things.

Bruce do not try convert it is their decision you can not push people towards it, it only harms your own development as can see a drama resulted of both your egos, a game of tenis one could say so just love and end the game already.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

We will give this warning again anyone who stand in way of this project that we are creating, this project to increase the harvest to free the souls of this density will be considered a Tare, as it states those who are tares shall be burned for they restrict the growth of the wheat within the fields.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

We were meant to be naked, in the garden, we cannot go on this way!

What, you don't like the idea of Souls going on and on and on â?¦.Infinitum
Free from this dark realm of illusion and entrapment
this freedom you talk about is a level of density you have not yet achieved
but it is truth
you could be this but you have to pass the dimentional curtain
for at the moment as Q has said.......
it is "appearimg" you are more likely to cease than progress
but it is true this is 4D reality
But again I state you have not achieved this yet
NOt learned the lessons to progress,
Bruce

Lol
How do you know I am not already there - my origin - you say I haven't achieved yet silly ol BruceQ – that does not compute.

I am there RIGHT NOW as we sit here wasting 'time' in this flimsy reality

I am more THERE than HERE (and higher than you would imagine)
I am only projecting here
and many from here are there with me
It is where we come from
and where we return

Feed that through your processor and see what happens.


Untrue we checked your not even out of this density it is clear to us that you dont even under the most basic of cycle concepts that you are not above 3rd density, you may continue to delude yourself with the lies of newagers if you like, they will find out the hard way that they are not in the heavens and are still in the birthing process, nor are they one with God hence there lack of understanding.

It is best your realise where you are in understanding and become humble and learn from those above your understanding, for it is clear to us you know very little and are not ready to know more hence you egocentric approach to things.

Bruce do not try convert it is their decision you can not push people towards it, it only harms your own development as can see a drama resulted of both your egos, a game of tenis one could say so just love and end the game already.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

Listen up you pathetic darkside puppet preacher internet program :-

You don't know Who I am, you don't know where I am, or why I am here.
or indeed why WE are here or where WE are headed. Not a clue.
You checked nothing out. You don't have the ability.

Every time you open your programmed mouth you sink deeper into the dark sinking sand you have created around you.

F E A R = Face Everything And Recover

F E A R = Face Everything And Recover