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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1207440  Belgium12/26/2010 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now to some really serious "business" Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537I searched on ARCHANGELs look what I found... watch both. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] . Thanks! And now for a comical interlude. God forgive me ;p |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1148147  United States12/26/2010 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now to some really serious "business" Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537I searched on ARCHANGELs look what I found... watch both. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] this was linked... and as I scrolled down I saw some very.... occult stuff. [link to www.ubest1.com] . Interesting videos WS...thanks!  |
| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1207537  Denmark12/26/2010 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks! And now for a comical interlude. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1207440God forgive me ;p hahahahaha!!!! I love that dude!! BTW check this out! ;P Fuck It - The Ultimate Spiritual Way [link to www.youtube.com] PS - Feel free to copy into its own thread, it fuckin deserves it! ;P |
| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1207537 Denmark12/26/2010 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now to some really serious "business" Quoting: AngelseverywhereI searched on ARCHANGELs look what I found... watch both. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] this was linked... and as I scrolled down I saw some very.... occult stuff. [link to www.ubest1.com] . Interesting videos WS...thanks! I agree, and Im glad You appreciate it, thank's for Your comment! May I ask if you know regarding the claims around 10:50 onwards Im reading there right now - (the video is about 15 min long) at 10:50 its about Lucifer and mistranslation in the bible.. to everyone - watch it before posting otherwise its just pointless, thanks! [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1207537 Denmark12/26/2010 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the video refers to VENUS and THE SUN - are we afraid of celestial bodies? longlived myths?? Or 'the little light' before 'the big light'... I mean no disrespect, but we are all filled with light - more or less 'enlightened' but if i8t comes to us being warned of 'false prophets' that is also really REALLY really not THAT dangerous? IF one think of the fact of that WE ALL ARE - according to Jesus own's words - going to be doing like Him, and more so? Perhaps .... I see the 'worship of Idols' as falsehood cuz to me it is neglection and diminishnig of ones own GodLight Loving one another is one thing but making ones self LESS to uplift someone else external I wont say more - Im gonna show an illustration, or let an allegory speak for me, Im too tired to think. The Missing Piece Meets the Big O by Shel Silverstein [link to www.youtube.com] Shel Silverstein's dream world of bouncy shapes. Animation: Dorian Kvale Voice: Sarah Moberg. Music: Badly Drawn Boy. Well, I guess MY point is - if we all develop FULL ENLIGHTENMENT HOW CAN ANYONE OR ANYTHING 'screw' us? If we are given tools as children in school to become more aware, concious, and secure in our selves - and the world what is to fear - and if we dont lack anything its harder to abuse and use us! Hence one tool the darkworkers ARE to FIRST CONDITION people via the built in vulnerability in our 'reptilebrain' - amygdala is the place called Supersticion, auto-pilot behaviour and impulsereactins -center...?! Read more: Terror - The Politics Of Oppression, The Culture Of Terror, Gods Of Terror, NiccolÒ Machiavelli, The Amygdala [link to science.jrank.org] (VERY interesting read, that and brainwashing is a must read) - to get a glimpse of hope of defence against scumbags... We have perhaps other ideas then mine by the readers? WHAT IS THIS FEAR OF LUCIFER in the 'Bible'? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write with Your own words, please do not quote too much from the Bible - I cant 'absorb' the weird wordings and ... its in english too, pardon. if its short sentances but then also refer to YOUR INTERPRETATION of it, please! (Sorry if the post got 'messy'. Im vry tired) . |
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| Bowhunter User ID: 1197133 United States12/26/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illumina..... No, No, No......King and Queen! Ha not this time around. Nothing ever happens the same way twice. You both should know this very well. Besides,you both live upon the labor of others,you earn nothing for yourselves, you contribute nothing towards the happiness and well being of man-kind. No more tyrrany..... Something new around the corner....freethinkers!!! churches....they are all the same, as also their preachers, etc... 1. There is a GOD 2. He has made known his will 3. He has selected me to explain his message 4. We will now take up a collection 5. Those who fail to subscribe will certainly be damned Demotion is a bitch....aint it!!! |
| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1207537 Denmark12/26/2010 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the video refers to VENUS and THE SUN Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537- are we afraid of celestial bodies? longlived myths?? Or 'the little light' before 'the big light'... // So, about Illum8ination and enlightenment and light - Please Read the intro of this video words by RUMI about LIGHT and its(the light source) containers various forms.. Now this video ought to get some of you express yourself? Its so silent in this thread I can har a pin drop... Nice ARCHitecture, huh!! ;) [link to www.youtube.com] . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1207948  Australia12/26/2010 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What architecture came before the Egyptian architecture, there must be somthing mare after the cave and hut. I believe anyone looking to the new world orders architecture should look no further than the box, cube, modern architecture taken from the pyramid that cut off the finer point and simply closed off the ceiling, they removed the cap stone and capped it flat and no one sees that as being new what we have today, but why? |
| KYRA/M2C/SHIVY User ID: 1191762 United States12/26/2010 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW check this out! ;P Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537Fuck It - The Ultimate Spiritual Way [link to www.youtube.com] PS - Feel free to copy into its own thread, it fuckin deserves it! ;P lol I can relate!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I guess MY point is - Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537if we all develop FULL ENLIGHTENMENT HOW CAN ANYONE OR ANYTHING 'screw' us? In my understanding, the enlightenment/revelation, be it personal or global, may come in two steps indeed. But both steps need to be taken in order to develop "full enlightenment" as you put it, and most people stop at the first one. That first one is the morning star that comes before the sun, the "little light". It is some kind of "Luciferian" initiation that may happen through esoteric knowledge and mystery teachings. "New" knowledge is infused, and the one who experiences it may feel like he suddenly understand everything, that he can do wonders through his will alone. I believe this kind of enlightenment is prized by secret societies and so-called "illuminatis". But it's a dangerous initiation, because pride comes before the fall. It's, IMHO, only halfway to the goal. Just like science is a tool that can both heal or kill, this new knowledge can also be used for selfish and nefarious purposes. Unfortunately you can get that knowledge before being a "whole" person. That's why secret societies keep these teachings hidden, like they are almost ashamed of it, afraid to be called sorcerers and witches. Unlike Icarus, you have to be careful not to burn your newfound wings because of pride. Like the scientist who thinks the secrets of the atom will bring a golden age, only to discover later the horror of the bomb. The second type of "enlightenment" is the hardest to achieve. It's the long and slow process through which you shed off your old self, one layer after the other, purifying yourself again and again, in order to welcome the "sun". That process is governed by humility and work on self. It's tedious and less impressive than the Luciferian initiation, and it's the moment you discover that in fact no, you don't know everything, and no you can't do impossible things. But it is much more rewarding in the long run. It's very difficult because it may seems endless, and it may look like you are not doing any progress, while the Luciferian initiation is much more spectacular and bring immediate knowledge (but that's it, just knowledge -sometimes even fake- and no lasting improvement nor peace nor joy). That long process eventually lead to the second type of enlightenment, the "mystical wedding". I don't know if to go through both is mandatory, it seems that very spiritual people tend to go straight to the second enlightenment because they are already quite humble, but they are most certainly facing "luciferian" temptations of pride. Just like Jesus was tempted by satan to turn stones into bread, to throw himself down from a temple roof to prove he can fly, or to bow to him to be crowned king. In other words, to make miracle for the pleasing of the self (magick). Today, many people into spirituality are deceived by that "small" enlightenment. Because of new-age teachings, many people believe it's all about magical powers, glitter and gold, "spirits", science meets magic, etc. All these are clearly "Luciferian-type" experiences. Knowledge and ego pleasing more than work on self. It's not bad per se, as long as you don't stop at that level and continue the work without falling for the trap of the "magical powers" or "I know it all". These powers aren't all powerful, just like science isn't all powerful, and they can be bring pain and sorrow when used for the pleasing of the self, I know from first hand. It's merely glitter and fool's gold. Yes like Kyra here I could somewhat "bend reality" and that was crazy, but for the rest of the world you are nothing more than a schizophrenic doing things alone in his head. We co-create this reality, never forget that. It's mainly distraction and that's why new-age is seen as "Luciferian" spirituality. It's more about knowledge (astrology, spiritism, magick, pseudo-science, etc) than true divine experience. True divine experience does not require knowledge. We have to be like little children like He said. I also believe, since the elements and the whole are usually corresponding, that humanity is also facing a Luciferian initiation, before the true one. That's the rising of science and the return of the occult that started during the last centuries. The Greeks knew a bit more that knowledge is but an illusion if you forget you true place in this world (That's the correct meaning of "know thyself"; know your place in the order of things), and that wisdom brought them a golden age. We seem to have forgotten that, and clearly this age is an age of knowledge and pride. Knowledge is more valuated than personal balance. Let's hope humanity will also do the work on self and achieve the second enlightenment, otherwise we might fall (again?). And don't forget, it's just MY opinion ;p |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537 Astana is another modern-day Babylon built with the money of fossil ressources (huge deposits of petrol and natural gas), just like Dubaï and such. Also you shouldn't be surprised they claimed building an alien embassy, just like the Raelians. So I'm not surprise AT ALL to see a pyramid there. What are the similarities between these "Luciferian" (knowledge-based, knowledge worshipping) groups/cultures in this world: -Church of Scientology -Raelians -Masons -Illuminatis -Ancient Egypt -Babylon -Theosophy and new-age -Thule society and occult nazism Mmm I let you connect the dots yourself but I do see a few: -Science -"Aliens" -Obsession with pyramids -"Powers of the mind" and magic Again, I'm not saying knowledge is bad when achieved in balance with moral values and personal development. I'll just evaluate the above groups and cultures in regard of their contribution in this world.... Yuck. "By their fruits..." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And don't make me said what I didn't. I'm not advocating ignorance, a dark age or the condemning of science and the glorifying of religion. Both can coexist. Many scholars and scientists came from religious background too, and not only atheists or masons/illuminatis, with great insights about the universe and science: -Galileo Galilei (father of modern science) -Albert Einstein -Roger Bacon -Nicolaus Copernicus -Georges Lemaitre -Francis Bacon -Johannes Kepler -René Descartes -Blaise Pascal -Gottfried Leibniz -Emanuel Swedenborg -Gregor Mendel -Louis Pasteur -Lord Kelvin -John Ambrose Fleming -Max Planck -... And that's just for Christians, but the same can be done for Jewish, Muslims or even buddhist/taoists scholars. So WHY today science and only science is the new religion? Why most modern scientists have to be atheist/agnostic or face ridicule? That's the true question. It's like the new religion is the religion of anthropocentric knowledge, the "luciferian" paradigm, without regard for moral values (cloning, genetic manipulations, nuclear power, etc). I believe that's the legacy of the "illuminatis" to this age. It started as a struggle against ignorance and bigotry, but today it lead to another extreme, the new religion of science and knowledge where the human is the center of everything, but where the individual is completely disconnected from the world. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A last consideration, there is a myth, inspiring the christian "Lucifer", that reconcile both aspect of it's personality: -The knowledge-giver -The one guilty of pride Have you found it yet? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Prometheus. Yes, Prometheus is like Lucifer, he is the "christ" of the intelligent mankind (he's even said to have created mankind), but he was also punished for rebelling against the natural (endless cycle) order of things because he brought change. In both Christianity and Greek mythology there's a Love/hate relationship to such character. He brings knowledge, but also the gods/God's wrath because of that. That myth usually polarized people into two "teams", one in favor of knowledge and science, the other one preferring to submit to the natural (divine) order. Who's right? Who's wrong? I think we can see today that once again, the middle path is the good one. Living those two realities in balance: Science at the service of the natural order |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have perhaps other ideas then mine by the readers? Quoting: Wonder'in Spirit 1207537WHAT IS THIS FEAR OF LUCIFER in the 'Bible'? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write with Your own words, please do not quote too much from the Bible - Hope I answered your question a bit WS, showing you the the "fear" of Lucifer is in fact older than the Bible. It relates to the sin of hubris. Sorry If I was a bit too prolific regarding my posts, but I found this question very interesting to say the least. And since we are here to cast away the fog of ignorance, I thought I'll contribute with my humble opinion (which is only personal of course) ;p Rise and shine |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that its out there, what will you do? You have a representative for you if you want it. Quoting: AnomaliSo you are in contact with "illuminatis", Anomali? If so, could you please tell them they are not hated. We never condemned them, more like warned them than trying to shift the balance of power to the other side is still imbalance, but of another type. They won't be judged for their hubris because there's only One who can judge. But if they could stop with the messing and start to reverse the steam a bit, that would be greatly appreciated. And also clean the mess a bit, to leave the place like they received it (shouldn't be a problem with all the resources they have). If they fail to do that, the consequences will never be the same.  |
| ILLUMINATOR User ID: 1208195  Slovenia12/27/2010 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |    Illumina..... Quoting: Bowhunter 1197133No, No, No......King and Queen! Ha not this time around. Nothing ever happens the same way twice. You both should know this very well. Besides,you both live upon the labor of others,you earn nothing for yourselves, you contribute nothing towards the happiness and well being of man-kind. No more tyrrany..... Something new around the corner....freethinkers!!! churches....they are all the same, as also their preachers, etc... 1. There is a GOD 2. He has made known his will 3. He has selected me to explain his message 4. We will now take up a collection 5. Those who fail to subscribe will certainly be damned Demotion is a bitch....aint it!!! Hmmmmmm... :-) Last Edited by ILLUMINATOR on 12/27/2010 07:01 AM Thus spoke ILLUMINATOR Exclusive test-mission (simulation, experiment, probe,) on GLP: 2009... test/simulation re public acceptance of the subject - Annasann Mission - & OP. Cultural Anthropology study. |
| ILLUMINATOR User ID: 1208195 Slovenia12/27/2010 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | _  ... ... because I feel sorry for people like that ... :-)  _ Last Edited by ILLUMINATOR on 12/27/2010 07:06 AM Thus spoke ILLUMINATOR Exclusive test-mission (simulation, experiment, probe,) on GLP: 2009... test/simulation re public acceptance of the subject - Annasann Mission - & OP. Cultural Anthropology study. |
| ILLUMINATOR User ID: 1208195 Slovenia12/27/2010 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you comprehend what is a SYMBOLIC speech? Not personal. Nothing to do with persons. Maybe with Functions. But some individuals have no capacity to comprehend that and they take all literally. Fundamentalism is called; literally. ... and result of that is wrong "spiritual" ego expansion and personal attacks and insults. Beware of +Choronzon 333+, because you came under its influence acting like that. By yourselfs. Little spoiled children who demand something and are refused then from adults because of their behavoiur acting like that. Anyway, again; Have a nice Holydays. :-) _ Last Edited by ILLUMINATOR on 12/27/2010 07:29 AM Thus spoke ILLUMINATOR Exclusive test-mission (simulation, experiment, probe,) on GLP: 2009... test/simulation re public acceptance of the subject - Annasann Mission - & OP. Cultural Anthropology study. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ILLUMINATOR User ID: 1208195 Slovenia12/27/2010 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :-) Not me on here anymore. Others do that. Just respond on their false words. Now comes 4th virtue of Sphinx for me here. Be well. Thus spoke ILLUMINATOR Exclusive test-mission (simulation, experiment, probe,) on GLP: 2009... test/simulation re public acceptance of the subject - Annasann Mission - & OP. Cultural Anthropology study. |
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| DUH User ID: 1205407 United States12/27/2010 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The people who dominate this thread are just plain sad examples of the worst of humanity. This thread has been hijacked so badly by stupidity, new age self-proclaimed divinity bullshit, and evidently from time to time serves as MTV. The original post, point, and discussion have been lost by the wayside for a long while now, and all you see now is incessant cacaophony of morons driveling away trying to sound slightly more important than the next, I swear you people are like a spooge bubble full of sperm all chaotically bumping into each other. If this website was a freeway, there would be a thousand car pile up every hour. SAD. It has been said on here repeatedly that the identity of the nobody is stored at [link to secure1.scottishrite.org (secure)] by very evil men, your Illuminati, and if you really want change and love and this and that like each of you claim, that is where you look, not to youtube for music videos. You all need to seriously grow up. Moderators, please kill this thread as the point has been lost and these people are unwilling to accept the generous information that has been put forth for them multiple times and totally overlooked by pure stupidity. |
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| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1208298 Denmark12/27/2010 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only Love (The Ballad Of Sleeping Beauty) [link to www.youtube.com] (Spoken:) Sophie, it's time... Ahaaa... You don't know why I'm crazy I don't know why your blue You messed with my head You messed with the dead Now I'm gonna mess with you I don't know why your lazy I'm so in love with you What's God gonna see Who's God gonna know When's God gonna help us through I can't deny, I can't explain, I can't reply, I can't refrain I want his hands, I want his chest, I want his feet, I want his sex I am the child, I am the whore, I am the wild woman at your door I need to touch, I need to talk, I need to love, I need to give you, you up What am I fighting for If I win I lose my life I need you more and more To break my will tonight Only love can set us free Only love can bear the truth Only love can bring us peace Only love can save me and you Oh Daddy what I've been thinkin' Only heaven knows What's Ma gonna see Who's Ma gonna blame When's Mama gonna carry you home I have the urge, I have the mind, I have the touch, I drank the wine I want the loss, I want the pain, I want to start my life again I can't define, I can't forget, I can't restrain the feeling of regret I know the dead, I'm not alone, I made my bed, I wanna let you, you go What am I frightened for If I speak I lose my mind You've broken down the door and there is no place to hide Only love can set us free Only love can bear the truth Only love can bring us peace Only love can save me and you Only love can purify Only love can conquer fear Only love can testify Only love can make a miracle of life Only love can set us free Only love can bear the truth Only love can bring us peace Only love can save me and you Only love can purify Only love can conquer fear Only love can testify Only love can make a miracle of life . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208145 United States12/27/2010 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has been said on here repeatedly that the identity of the nobody is stored at [link to secure1.scottishrite.org (secure)] by very evil men, your Illuminati, and if you really want change and love and this and that like each of you claim, that is where you look, not to youtube for music videos. Quoting: DUH 1205407LoL you make bold claims by linking a website but provide no login and password so we can verify them. So, you found the private database website of the US Scottish rite (southern jurisdiction)? And you say they are the Illuminatis and the thread is about a guy mentioned in there? Lol. I can do the same magic trick to impress the gullible: Look here! This is the website of the TRUE illuminatis. The über-secret C30 society. So secret you never heard of it. Their "Ordo Ab Chao" motto proves they are the true illuminatis. [link to www.ctrente.fr] If you really want change and love and this and that like each of you claim, that is where you look, not to youtube for music videos. (Also the nobody's identity is stored on this site, hosted on a computer in Belgium called the Beast) Pfff. Yeah you're site is nice, but your story requires a bit more efforts. New intel please You all need to seriously grow up. Moderators, please kill this thread as the point has been lost and these people are unwilling to accept the generous information that has been put forth for them multiple times and totally overlooked by pure stupidity. Quoting: DUH 1205407That's not up to you to decide, and sorry for you if you don't see the gems in this thread. :p |
| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1208298 Denmark12/27/2010 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have perhaps other ideas then mine by the readers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208145WHAT IS THIS FEAR OF LUCIFER in the 'Bible'? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write with Your own words, please do not quote too much from the Bible - Hope I answered your question a bit WS, showing you the the "fear" of Lucifer is in fact older than the Bible. It relates to the sin of hubris. Sorry If I was a bit too prolific regarding my posts, but I found this question very interesting to say the least. And since we are here to cast away the fog of ignorance, I thought I'll contribute with my humble opinion (which is only personal of course) ;p Rise and shine Thank Y9ou kindly, just got online, will read thr9ough the thread-posts. Funny, I just posted ¨'sleeping beauty¨' and you wrote 'rise and shine'.... Yes... let'¨s do that. To hell with all the negative shit ;) Ancient fearporn, older then the Biblical scriptures, doesnt sound like necessary luggage/bagage for the LIFT OFF 2011. |
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| Wonder'in Spirit User ID: 1208298 Denmark12/27/2010 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I guess MY point is - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208145if we all develop FULL ENLIGHTENMENT HOW CAN ANYONE OR ANYTHING 'screw' us? In my understanding, the enlightenment/revelation, be it personal or global, may come in two steps indeed. But both steps need to be taken in order to develop "full enlightenment" as you put it, and most people stop at the first one. That first one is the morning star that comes before the sun, the "little light". It is some kind of "Luciferian" initiation that may happen through esoteric knowledge and mystery teachings. "New" knowledge is infused, and the one who experiences it may feel like he suddenly understand everything, that he can do wonders through his will alone. I believe this kind of enlightenment is prized by secret societies and so-called "illuminatis". But it's a dangerous initiation, because pride comes before the fall. It's, IMHO, only halfway to the goal. Just like science is a tool that can both heal or kill, this new knowledge can also be used for selfish and nefarious purposes. Unfortunately you can get that knowledge before being a "whole" person. That's why secret societies keep these teachings hidden, like they are almost ashamed of it, afraid to be called sorcerers and witches. Unlike Icarus, you have to be careful not to burn your newfound wings because of pride. Like the scientist who thinks the secrets of the atom will bring a golden age, only to discover later the horror of the bomb. The second type of "enlightenment" is the hardest to achieve. It's the long and slow process through which you shed off your old self, one layer after the other, purifying yourself again and again, in order to welcome the "sun". That process is governed by humility and work on self. It's tedious and less impressive than the Luciferian initiation, and it's the moment you discover that in fact no, you don't know everything, and no you can't do impossible things. But it is much more rewarding in the long run. It's very difficult because it may seems endless, and it may look like you are not doing any progress, while the Luciferian initiation is much more spectacular and bring immediate knowledge (but that's it, just knowledge -sometimes even fake- and no lasting improvement nor peace nor joy). That long process eventually lead to the second type of enlightenment, the "mystical wedding". I don't know if to go through both is mandatory, it seems that very spiritual people tend to go straight to the second enlightenment because they are already quite humble, but they are most certainly facing "luciferian" temptations of pride. Just like Jesus was tempted by satan to turn stones into bread, to throw himself down from a temple roof to prove he can fly, or to bow to him to be crowned king. In other words, to make miracle for the pleasing of the self (magick). Today, many people into spirituality are deceived by that "small" enlightenment. Because of new-age teachings, many people believe it's all about magical powers, glitter and gold, "spirits", science meets magic, etc. All these are clearly "Luciferian-type" experiences. Knowledge and ego pleasing more than work on self. It's not bad per se, as long as you don't stop at that level and continue the work without falling for the trap of the "magical powers" or "I know it all". These powers aren't all powerful, just like science isn't all powerful, and they can be bring pain and sorrow when used for the pleasing of the self, I know from first hand. It's merely glitter and fool's gold. Yes like Kyra here I could somewhat "bend reality" and that was crazy, but for the rest of the world you are nothing more than a schizophrenic doing things alone in his head. We co-create this reality, never forget that. It's mainly distraction and that's why new-age is seen as "Luciferian" spirituality. It's more about knowledge (astrology, spiritism, magick, pseudo-science, etc) than true divine experience. True divine experience does not require knowledge. We have to be like little children like He said. I also believe, since the elements and the whole are usually corresponding, that humanity is also facing a Luciferian initiation, before the true one. That's the rising of science and the return of the occult that started during the last centuries. The Greeks knew a bit more that knowledge is but an illusion if you forget you true place in this world (That's the correct meaning of "know thyself"; know your place in the order of things), and that wisdom brought them a golden age. We seem to have forgotten that, and clearly this age is an age of knowledge and pride. Knowledge is more valuated than personal balance. Let's hope humanity will also do the work on self and achieve the second enlightenment, otherwise we might fall (again?). And don't forget, it's just MY opinion ;p WonderFULL!!! Gotta get back to this, and You, later please. I *really* appreciate You taking the time and effort to sharing Your most interesting, stimulating reflections - THANK YOU!!! I hope to be able to give an as stimulating respond as I will be back in a few hours. Blessings to You! |
