The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.

reason and logic via a deck of cards! go buy a comic book

and you dont think that means anything yet because you dont know me, you will, and yur gonna make vanilla look chocolate bitch.

Looks like someone is making a film about a "Mr Nobody":

maybe i shouldn't have started out by calling you an idiot. it seems to have struck a nerve with you so that your only intent is argument.

you use a system you didn't create, which is commonly done, but you do so for your own personal life, and sometimes more. don't you think you have more power on your own? why do you want to use someone else's recipes for the rest of your life, when in a short time you could be a professional chef, capable of much more than you imagined previously?

kanye will back me up, he aint a scared bitch.

:got-a-point:

yur scared now but its too late.

i thought you were an ally, your lyrics suggested it.

i was wrong.

talking to the two of you is like trying to argue with high-schoolers. they don't give up, and nothing they say makes sense enough to make a response worth it.

grow up, douchebag.

there are things to learn once you think you have mastered reason and logic. and i can guarantee you haven't if you still use tarot.

they want to hijack the thread, this is clear.

crowley and nemo die.

Maybe it is because you guys haven't said anything really useful to make your point, just attack, attack, whine, whine.

A: I don't like cake.
B: Fuck you!

are you with us in peace?

this is what we work for.

the tarot is a toll for manipulation, its just that i cant waste all my time because i am fighting monumental amounts of trolls that want our president to be someone he is not.

a man who broke his handlers hold and is working for peace.

the tarot is a chain that binds us, would you shackle yourself willingly?

of course not.

think em, or stfu, i dont want to be your enemy, but i will be, and you dont want that.

i am a poet too.

Why, let's dance then?!

:bust-a-move:

i think you lost a few brain cells in the memory transfer.

anyone reading this can see the points i've made, even if they are some of the first substantial ones against tarot.

i said that wrong.

obama is working for peace, against his handlers wishes.

will you help us, so our petty differences can be put aside?

Finally. Yes.

Peace, yes.

i told you em, she dont like you, drop the charade and lets pull down the fucking pyramid.

both of them.

we really have a chance at this.

omg this thread was created when doomtards failed last year in october, its still going on!

he means this dude, and i would like if we were on the same side, too.

i said something about tarot in the first place, because i actually wanted to help with just a new thought.

i feel more strongly about it than i'm letting on, because i do want every person to be free and empowered.

its a little more than that amigo, time to take part in your own transformation.

Any more from you, have you had enough yet? chump!

Looking through a window made of time. Would you find the courage not to lie?

Ok?

Kash is no marshall mathers...more awol.

We all want the same thing. Peace and freedom to live and believe as we want to. You live in fear because of what others have told you. Restrictions.

We live in love because we know that loving resistance is what will win out in the end. Sometimes love is tough. Truth and justice sometimes cause pain and reflection.

One of the other trumps you so incorrectly identified because of the veil still drawn over your face.

My friends and i we cracked the code. We prefer a different kind of buzzzz.

B

hi, how ya doing.. yur funny, but i wont read your comment, it is filled with sickness that i cant endorse.

here is a hug.

you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.

the hug was for you.

Well, you started the fight, and I'm game.

You called for truce, and I'm game.

Your point about 'kbowledge' is given.

OK, let's start over.

My point on 'ritual magic' is that it is pretension and artifice
Therefore, not worthwile and as you noted, not genuine to true self expression. That point is also a given if you wish.

I'm also into Jungian psychology, and approach Tarot from that angle, and that angle only. All others are defective.

I'll argue my points for myself, and not defend others in their use of Tarot as religion. That is something we also probably agree with.

I agree, if it just a pissing match, then what's the point?

why not write your own tarot deck, then youd know it was yours.

maybe its because you believe in another more powerful than yourself?

thank you for being willing to drop it right now.



what other interests do you have that aren't tarot?

Yes to your statement, I agree 100%.

My answer to your question is NO! It is neither belief nor premise...regardless of "powerfulness", images that you creat yourself will be more reflective of your subconscious and unconscious mind, as opposed to someone else doing it for you.