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you know, maybe our ideas of rationality are a lot more alike than it seemed at first. it's hard to demonstrate rationality when in a discussion that has any amount of hostility. it wasn't my intent to be hostile toward you, i actually thought it was coming across that i was sharing a philosophical thought. but i guess i haven't mastered that.

i actually agree with quite a few of your points, i just think some of them are incorrectly directed at me because this happened to be our first conversation, and i happened to be defending the idea that maybe tarot isn't that great.

let's maybe try to start over a little bit? this has turned into an insult war, which goes nowhere and isn't worth my time imo.

you said "We probably agree on this...ritual magic does seem rather ridiculous, and if that is the detrimental part, then I agree with you on that."

also, when i say 'knowledge' i mean something more parallel to information, not conclusions.

if we start there, i think there won't be much to attack each other over anymore.