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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023415 07/02/2010 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, this thread is dead, but if any wish to know what the freemasons are really about, research Albert Pike and Alistair Crowley. Quoting: Philip J. FryYes, - espcially "Goetia". If you are sending people on Google searches for Aleister Crowley, it would help if you spelled it correctly. The OP is talking about Freemasonry, and although Crowley tried to influence it's teachings, history shows he failed. Crowley used the Freemason set up, as well as the Golden Dawn to create his own order. Those also, for all tense and purposes failed as well. So really, you are simply paranoid. There is just as much ritual and magic in your cult of Christianity than any other. You are just blind to it. My firefox has a british spell check, I trusted it, on Crowley's name. Crowley's influence has not been lost on the masons that call themselves the shriners. you should look into that, unless you are one. As for the other guy, I notice you mysteriously neglected to defend masonry from Albert Pike and his luciferianism. The ritual magic in Christianity is in the Jesuit order and Catholic church and some fringe cults. Real Christianity has miracles that come from God, there is no magic herbs or spells to cast, only the asking of God to do something. I wouldn't call what a five year old asks of their parents, in a respectful manner, to be ritual magic, so you fail, almost epically. I would like to determine if the "Luciferianism" to which you refer is the worship of a real entity, or recognition of an allegory, in which light is education and science that dispels the darkness of ignorance and superstition. |
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| Tirzah User ID: 984839 07/02/2010 09:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about what you think it's about. It's not even about what many other Freemasons think it's about. Quoting: galactronunit9 1022695Well personally I don't care much for your secret brotherhood of criminals. I know for a fact that all of you will gang up on one of your opponents that try to expose your criminal activity. I have been a victim of your scheme to eliminate me from the face of the earth. I hate your injustice and hypocricy. One day Zion will encircle you mighty men and crush your head. Righteous Judgement will then reign upon the earth. "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12 |
| Philip J. Fry User ID: 1018260 07/02/2010 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Albert Pike taught that Lucifer was light and energy we receive from knowledge and ancient wisdom. Well, that's what masons would have you believe. Here a masonic web site defending Albert Pike: [link to www.masonicinfo.com] Here's the flip side of this asshole the Freemasons revere and whose plans they are fulfilling... Even though Pike was a confederate general who committed the most heinous atrocities of the war his tomb is located just 13 blocks from the Capitol Building. He was a high ranking member of the Illuminati who is still revered by the New World Order Gang. The god of the Illuminati and the New World Order Gang is Lucifer. "The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. . . Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jesus) is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. . ."The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay (Jesus); but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of darkness and evil." A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc-Maconnerie Universelle, p. 588; Lady Queenborough, Occult Theocracy pp. 220-221. Guiseppe Mazzini cigar label Pike designed a plan for world conquest and wrote of it in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. He said three future world wars would prepare the world for the New World Order. Albert Pike's plan for the Illuminati was as simple as it has proved effective. He required that Communism, Naziism, Political Zionism, and other International movements be organized and used to foment the three global wars and three major revolutions. The First World War was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to overthrow the powers of the Tzars in Russia and turn that country into the stronghold of Atheistic-Communism. The differences stirred up by agentur of the Illuminati between the British and German Empires were to be used to foment this war. After the war ended, Communism was to be built up and used to destroy other governments and weaken religions. World War Two, was to be fomented by using the differences between Fascists and Political Zionists. This war was to be fought so that Naziism would be destroyed and the power of Political Zionism increased so that the sovereign state of Israel could be established in Palestine. During World War Two International Communism was to be built up until it equalled in strength that of united Christendom. At this point it was to be contained and kept in check until required for the final social cataclysm. Can any informed person deny Roosevelt and Churchill did put this policy into effect? World War Three is to be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and Political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves while at the same time the remaining nations, once more divided against each other on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion physically, mentally, spiritually and economically. Can any unbiased and reasoning person deny that the intrigue now going on in the Near, Middle, and Far East is designed to accomplish this devilish purpose? After World War Three is ended, those who aspire to undisputed world domination will provoke the greatest social cataclysm the world has ever known. We quote his own written words taken from the letter catalogued in the British Museum Library, London, England. "We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time" (William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, p. xv-xvi). You can find this info at: [link to www.biblebelievers.org.au] |
| Philip J. Fry User ID: 1018260 07/02/2010 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | albert pike didn't just write all of this. He wrote this almost a hundred years ago. The freemasons have been following his plan to the nth degree. Get real. These jerks might not know they are helping follow through with the plan, well, not on the lower levels, but he higher levels are indeed working in this. And OP, from what you have said about christianity already, I feel you do know about this plan and are also working to accomplish it. I think you are evil, as evil as Bush and Obama and Gordon Brown and Blair and all your other freemason buddies. Guess what? We don't trust you. We have every bit the right to not trust you. We have words from your fellow freemasons that say you want to destroy us to start again a new world based on luciferian theology, whether it be light or a spiritual creature is not the point, the point is, is this, you have blood, already, on your hands, and it bothers you not one bit. So yes, you are satanic. |
| galactronunit9 (OP) User ID: 1022695 07/02/2010 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please tell about the "alien" connection with Masons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023532The word "alien" can mean different things. You might be talking about an extraterrestrial race from another star system or you might be talking about an inter dimensional entity or perhaps an energetic being from our own planetary matrix. I have never come across any direct connection in masonry to anything extraterrestrial however that is not to say that some of the knowledge from whence masonry derives from might have been bestowed upon humanity by such a race of beings. One never knows. I do know that there is a lot of math involved in masonic teachings. There are two sides to math one is esoteric and one is profane. I believe that math is a universal language as is music or any other discipline that concerns measurement or frequency. I have seen many crop circles that resemble certain geometric patterns used in masonry. I do not know however how those two are connected. I have theories but so does everybody else. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fry; Awww.. Please. Just read some esoteric meanings about bible from [link to usbible.com] ... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 941746 07/02/2010 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you seem to be on the level, and you haven't lost your way or temper on this thread despite certain lets call them baiters trying to rile you. I am very interested in spiritual alchemy and its applications to ones mental fortitude and spiritual growth. I'm not in the slightest bit interested in practical alchemy or the persuit of the philosphers stone etc as i see this as just another form of materialism and dark leaning occultism. I have a couple of questions if you will indulge me. Ok more then a couple. What can you tell me about the Grand Architect? Why does masonry exclude atheists from admittance? Do you believe in entities from other dimensions drawing energy from people in this density? If so any tips to rid the parasites? Do you know anything about Fulcanelli? Do you meditate? My questioning might seem erratic and not entirley to do with masonry but i would like an opinion from someone who has certain esoteric knowledge from masonic sources. Interesting thread makes a change from the avalanche of doom as of late. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please tell about the "alien" connection with Masons? Quoting: galactronunit9 1022695The word "alien" can mean different things. You might be talking about an extraterrestrial race from another star system or you might be talking about an inter dimensional entity or perhaps an energetic being from our own planetary matrix. I was talking about "we" (as physical white people) are the "extraterrestrial race" who invaded this planet. I don't know to ask the exact questions, please give me the questions I have to ask. Our bodies are like cars. Our brains are the engine that runs the car. But where the operator - our soul - is from. Now explain me some magick. You didn't check out the site I provided did you? [link to thehiddenrecords.com] I do know that there is a lot of math involved in masonic teachings. There are two sides to math one is esoteric and one is profane. I believe that math is a universal language Sure. Irrational and rational. But you are now avoiding the question. Please read my mind. Examples. Give some examples on the esoteric and profane math. |
| galactronunit9 (OP) User ID: 1022695 07/02/2010 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, this thread is dead, but if any wish to know what the freemasons are really about, research Albert Pike and Alistair Crowley. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023415Yes, - espcially "Goetia". If you are sending people on Google searches for Aleister Crowley, it would help if you spelled it correctly. The OP is talking about Freemasonry, and although Crowley tried to influence it's teachings, history shows he failed. Crowley used the Freemason set up, as well as the Golden Dawn to create his own order. Those also, for all tense and purposes failed as well. So really, you are simply paranoid. There is just as much ritual and magic in your cult of Christianity than any other. You are just blind to it. My firefox has a british spell check, I trusted it, on Crowley's name. Crowley's influence has not been lost on the masons that call themselves the shriners. you should look into that, unless you are one. As for the other guy, I notice you mysteriously neglected to defend masonry from Albert Pike and his luciferianism. The ritual magic in Christianity is in the Jesuit order and Catholic church and some fringe cults. Real Christianity has miracles that come from God, there is no magic herbs or spells to cast, only the asking of God to do something. I wouldn't call what a five year old asks of their parents, in a respectful manner, to be ritual magic, so you fail, almost epically. I would like to determine if the "Luciferianism" to which you refer is the worship of a real entity, or recognition of an allegory, in which light is education and science that dispels the darkness of ignorance and superstition. It is an allegory that points to a universal truth. Lucifer is only a label given to a certain thought form/energy which could classify as an entity however like all thought forms it has no real power of its own only that which is given to it by human attention. Gods do not exist except through humans. You cannot know any God, entity, energy, thought form or what have you unless it's energies are being made manifest through a human being. We have throughout the course of history created and killed many Gods. I do not say this to mean that humans are MORE than GOD only that humans are the filters through which Gods act as well as within the fabric of reality of which we are interwoven. In reality there is only one "GOD" that has many faces and we either consciously decide or unconsciously wear these faces. In my understanding, "Ahriman" is more akin to what Christians might think of as Satan. The industrial revolution is the product of Ahriman if that gives you any idea of what this energy represents. NO HEART. MACHINE THINK. See the thing is that we are on a journey of evolution, your spirit that is, and the body to I guess but the body is just the vehicle. There MUST be two opposing forces which creates the friction necessary to foster evolution. The key is balance between the two. You will find that balance is a VERY important theme in masonic literature and it relates to this very concept. Jungian psychology which is pretty much alchemy with new labels does a good job of describing how this process works within the human soul I think. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1022966 07/02/2010 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ( will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, Quoting: Philip J. Fry[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au] Pike - and his ilk are clearly up to their necks in Satanism and recieving their guidance/instructions from other dimensional beings. Trouble is...........is this just an agenda that they would swallow, something to hook them in? - just as they in turn have created 'agendas' for other people to follow ie Communism, Zionism, Nazism etc. These fuckers have been in control for a long time - if they simply wanted to institute Luciferism as some sort of world religion - why go to all these lengths to do it? These are spiritual beings - and their motivation is going to involve just that, spiritual considerations - it undoubtedly involves massive depopulation of the human race, and prevention of any shift/ascension - I doubt wether it involves any illuminati assholes lording it over us! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What can you tell me about the Grand Architect? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941746Why does masonry exclude atheists from admittance? Even a non mason can answer to that: no-one can create something from nothing except great architect. Greatest illusion of light comes from the fact that there cannot be one without the other. Between white and black are the different colours with gray in the middle. At least in rational math. However, phi (89/55) is irrational (which is nowdays very rational).. so is the pi (22/7) |
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| galactronunit9 (OP) User ID: 1022695 07/02/2010 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about what you think it's about. It's not even about what many other Freemasons think it's about. Quoting: TirzahWell personally I don't care much for your secret brotherhood of criminals. I know for a fact that all of you will gang up on one of your opponents that try to expose your criminal activity. I have been a victim of your scheme to eliminate me from the face of the earth. I hate your injustice and hypocricy. One day Zion will encircle you mighty men and crush your head. Righteous Judgement will then reign upon the earth. Who deems himself esteemed enough among the hosts of heaven to enlist the wrath and judgment of a God based upon frail human vanity and understanding? |
| Philip J. Fry User ID: 1018260 07/02/2010 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know the bible is not perfect. The holy spirit is real. It is inside of me. It helped to fight my inner darkness and still does, and it teaches me. Do I believe that aliens exist? Yes. Do I believe we have a missing history? Yes. Do I believe that ancient knowledge was passed down through secret societies? Yes. Is there a satan? I don't know. I do know that there is a satanic agenda. And that the freemasons are working to help that agenda take shape. Did they always have this agenda, I don't think so. I think they were infiltrated long ago, before Albert Pike. I will say this, the few masons that have responded tonight on this thread, you have been warned in a way no other mason has been warned. Instead of shrugging off what I have said, you should really consider your place in the universe and if it is as secure as you think it is. There really is blood on your hands. Here is a post I did last night, just in case you haven't read it yet. It is a warning that you should take to heart, very much so. And it uses only logic, it doesn't discuss God or freemasons in detail. It simply is a logical treatise on what is to come, for you guys. Thread: Who is really on the Red List? I think logic can answer that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 819444 07/02/2010 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So is that what they were when i walked in they were bullying me trying to make me sit in the chair. They wanted to strap me in double trap me. i said no you are not my boss then confused i walked away then came back in not to long after knowwing i am the plane i flew away never to return to the house of torture. Their Cycle broken. |
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| Philip J. Fry User ID: 1018260 07/02/2010 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ( will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1022966[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au] Pike - and his ilk are clearly up to their necks in Satanism and recieving their guidance/instructions from other dimensional beings. Trouble is...........is this just an agenda that they would swallow, something to hook them in? - just as they in turn have created 'agendas' for other people to follow ie Communism, Zionism, Nazism etc. These fuckers have been in control for a long time - if they simply wanted to institute Luciferism as some sort of world religion - why go to all these lengths to do it? These are spiritual beings - and their motivation is going to involve just that, spiritual considerations - it undoubtedly involves massive depopulation of the human race, and prevention of any shift/ascension - I doubt wether it involves any illuminati assholes lording it over us! Damn, you made some really good points. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 941746 07/02/2010 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023532 Very interesting thank you for your input to my questions. Kiitos! |
| Goetia User ID: 987273 07/02/2010 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crowley's influence has not been lost on the masons that call themselves the shriners. you should look into that, unless you are one. Quoting: Philip J. FryAs for the other guy, I notice you mysteriously neglected to defend masonry from Albert Pike and his luciferianism. The ritual magic in Christianity is in the Jesuit order and Catholic church and some fringe cults. Real Christianity has miracles that come from God, there is no magic herbs or spells to cast, only the asking of God to do something. I wouldn't call what a five year old asks of their parents, in a respectful manner, to be ritual magic, so you fail, almost epically. Point 1: I'm not the 32º mason. I'm just some guy talking on the internet, just like you. Point 2: No... Crowley himself admits he failed trying to reform Freemasonry and he was an egotist and braggart.... so.... Point 3: No mystery. I omitted Pike due to the fact that I know nothing of his work. Believe it or not, we "Satanists" (gag) do not follow every person that claims to have knowledge, nor do we align with someone simply because They choose that title. Point 4: Jesus & alchemy. He transmuted Water into Wine, Wine into Blood and Word into Flesh. - Jesus also "died" and "rose again" in a ritual (also performed by Lazarus) of rebirth. Lastly Jesus used magickal spitting to cure 2 people in the New Testament documents. So, no fail. |
| galactronunit9 (OP) User ID: 1022695 07/02/2010 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | albert pike didn't just write all of this. He wrote this almost a hundred years ago. Quoting: Philip J. FryThe freemasons have been following his plan to the nth degree. Get real. These jerks might not know they are helping follow through with the plan, well, not on the lower levels, but he higher levels are indeed working in this. And OP, from what you have said about christianity already, I feel you do know about this plan and are also working to accomplish it. I think you are evil, as evil as Bush and Obama and Gordon Brown and Blair and all your other freemason buddies. Guess what? We don't trust you. We have every bit the right to not trust you. We have words from your fellow freemasons that say you want to destroy us to start again a new world based on luciferian theology, whether it be light or a spiritual creature is not the point, the point is, is this, you have blood, already, on your hands, and it bothers you not one bit. So yes, you are satanic. I am familiar with Pike's writings. In particular, Morals & Dogma. I have seen the aforementioned quotes attributed to Pike before. Is there hard evidence that Pike actually wrote these things? If it is in a book that he wrote then tell me what page to turn to. Let me also be clear. I also do not speak for Albert Pike or any other Freemason or for any other person for that matter. Freemasonry existed before Pike, he made a contribution and he was one human man. Albert Pike nor does any other Mason including me have the right to speak for all of Freemasonry in it's totality. I am relating my own experience, nothing more. By your logic all Christians should also be shunned by the world populations for the genocide that was committed under their flags all throughout history. Christianity is responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of innocent human lives. People were tortured, women burned on lengths of wood, entire cultures were decimated. In terms of wholesale human debauchery Freemasonry can't hold a candle to the Christians my friend and I am afraid to say that there is a whole heap of written and oral history to back that up. Remove the beam from your eye. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know the bible is not perfect. Quoting: Philip J. Fry... but it is. Freemasonry is not an religion. Freemasonry however follows the book (bible, quran, whatever) by the letter because it's full of allegorical information. It's the people who interpret the written word who are not perfect. This site is full of mis-interpretations. 99% of the people who are "true believers" are actually mis-interpreting.. Secanting is the 2nd degree teaching. Gomer Oz Dabar. Beauty strenght and wisdom. Tangent, Secant, Cord. Basic trigonometry. Please describe the point that mason cannot err. In details, please. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Point 4: Jesus & alchemy. He transmuted Water into Wine, Wine into Blood and Word into Flesh. - Jesus also "died" and "rose again" in a ritual (also performed by Lazarus) of rebirth. Lastly Jesus used magickal spitting to cure 2 people in the New Testament documents. Quoting: GoetiaSo, no fail. Jesus means in this context the Sun.. Check out the sun when it rises red from the east on calm sea or lake.. there's some wine to you, without sun you wouldn't have the wine. The dieing just happens on the winter solstice and the rebirth occurs on 25th of december, commonly known as christmas (which coca cola company ruined totally).. anyway. The sun and water. There's good combination. Remember to drink water exposed to sun... |
| Philip J. Fry User ID: 1018260 07/02/2010 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Point 1: I'm not the 32º mason. I'm just some guy talking on the internet, just like you. Quoting: GoetiaPoint 2: No... Crowley himself admits he failed trying to reform Freemasonry and he was an egotist and braggart.... so.... Point 3: No mystery. I omitted Pike due to the fact that I know nothing of his work. Believe it or not, we "Satanists" (gag) do not follow every person that claims to have knowledge, nor do we align with someone simply because They choose that title. Point 4: Jesus & alchemy. He transmuted Water into Wine, Wine into Blood and Word into Flesh. - Jesus also "died" and "rose again" in a ritual (also performed by Lazarus) of rebirth. Lastly Jesus used magickal spitting to cure 2 people in the New Testament documents. So, no fail. Point 1, I've seen you defend freemasonry before. You might not be 32 degree, but I wager you are in that society. Point 2 Crowley is a star among satanists and luciferians, they brag about him like he was the messiah. Google it, if you wish to deny it. His influence, as I said, is in the shriners, who are pedaphiles, in general. We have people who joined and then left all saying the same thing about them, and Crowley was a pedaphile. Point 3, how can a satanist not know about albert pike? I must take you on your word here, as little as I trust it. Albert Pike was a high ranking mason, and set the agenda they now follow, a one world government built upon war and destruction of lives. Thus, there is blood on the hands of freemasons, esepcially those who continue in this plan that is unfolding before us. Point 4, The miracles you point out are just that, miracles. Just because others have turnded them into spells, and some catholics did just that, doesn't negate them as holy and no magical in the since of magick, or black magick or alchemy. If I recall correctly, alchemy, as a institute, didn't take off until around the beginning of the this past millennium, almost a thousand years after Christ died for your sins. Like I stated above in another post, I do believe in ancient advanced knowledge, I don't believe that the freemasons are using it for the good of others. Now, why are you defending freemasonry so often in these threads at GLP if you are not one of them? Are you a freemason or in a similar secret society? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023532 07/02/2010 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say, why we use 12 month calendar instead of 13 month calendar (4x7 day weeks with one timeless day on 25/7?) why there is 13 zodiacs (one of which happens to be "virgo (virgin mary - conveniently sun is in this zodiac house 9 months after the "sun" has "reborn" And please tell what is the connection of Masons with the stars near pleiades? |