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I am a 32nd degree MASON & a Knight Templar - Ask me a question

 
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THE GREAT ARCHITECT....of the freemasons search.......the light .......just who the F*** is the great one ???>>>> the dumb ass masons spend a lifetime searching for the light....from 1 degree to another..not knowing even the secrets... no points here for dumb !!!!!...common sense tells u that hey something is fishy here... i m swearing to ??????...da !!!!...anyway....the great one is surely known by the 32 degree......CAIN....he was the builder,the architect.....after the 33rd, u become a illuminati freak...satanist and knowing it !!!!.. evil as hell....ritual bull shit...
CAIN
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OP is whitewashing Freemasonry. It takes YEARS to achieve 32-degree, so he didn't join recently "to see what it was about," and it costs WAY more than $200 year at that level...
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Yes, it does, many, many, many, many dedicated years to reach a 32nd degree, So that puzzles me, how long hes been in?

OP?
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See the thing is that we are on a journey of evolution, your spirit that is, and the body to I guess but the body is just the vehicle.

There MUST be two opposing forces which creates the friction necessary to foster evolution. The key is balance between the two. You will find that balance is a VERY important theme in masonic literature and it relates to this very concept.

Jungian psychology which is pretty much alchemy with new labels does a good job of describing how this process works within the human soul I think.
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A+++

Very good. I would highly recommend Jung and the study of Alchemy.

I like the writings of Joseph Campbell too. TAROT REVELATIONS is my favorite book and talks about the evolution of man with Jungian psychology.

Thanks for your post (when Im feeling up to par ( I have a head cold) Ill read the rest of your comments)

With Faith , Hope and Charity, God Bless....

To the Stairway of Divine Providence and the Lamb of the Ages...
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OP is a lying attention whore. Suicide OP. Suicide.
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Where did I leave my keys?
"Majority of Amerika is too awash in its own mediocrity to commit to fighting for freedom" Mojo
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I'm a 32nd degree mason and I can guarantee you it does not take years anymore, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars a year.
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I'm a 32nd degree mason and I can guarantee you it does not take years anymore, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars a year.
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It has always been possible to raise "Mason at Sight"...
Anyway... Read my posts and reply about the things which cannot be completely told.
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I'm a 32nd degree mason and I can guarantee you it does not take years anymore, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars a year.


It has always been possible to raise "Mason at Sight"...
Anyway... Read my posts and reply about the things which cannot be completely told.
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I read back through most of this post and I'm still unsure as to what it is you want to know.
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I'm a 32nd degree mason and I can guarantee you it does not take years anymore, nor does it cost hundreds of dollars a year.


It has always been possible to raise "Mason at Sight"...
Anyway... Read my posts and reply about the things which cannot be completely told.


I read back through most of this post and I'm still unsure as to what it is you want to know.
 Quoting: DarklyDreaming32 1158675


I want you to tell me the correct or right questions I should ask from you so you reveal the secret what I want to know.
Also, I want to have the "insightful experience" of the EA, FC, MM without joining the lodge. I want you to tell me how can I get more light!
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There is no "secret." The only secrets we have are handshakes, recognition signs, etc. You want enlightenment? My suggestion would be to read the bible. The three degrees are representative of maturation through life stages.
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There is no "secret." The only secrets we have are handshakes, recognition signs, etc. You want enlightenment? My suggestion would be to read the bible. The three degrees are representative of maturation through life stages.
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I want to be more enlighted than I already am.
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There is no "secret." The only secrets we have are handshakes, recognition signs, etc. You want enlightenment? My suggestion would be to read the bible. The three degrees are representative of maturation through life stages.


I want to be more enlighted than I already am.
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As I stated before, the experience itself is a "secret", it cannot be described, it has to be experienced. This is done in the lodge - please tell how I can experience it now.
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closed club = something to hide?
closed club = easy to oppress non members
closed club = same as any other secret organization
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Do you know Indiana Jones?


It's not about what you think it's about. It's not even about what many other Freemasons think it's about.
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closed club = something to hide?
closed club = easy to oppress non members
closed club = same as any other secret organization
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It's really no different than a fraternity at a college, minus the drinking and so on. I'd beg to differ anyone thinks the local Theta Chi chapter has stuff to hide other than the obvious private ceremonies.

That's assuming that the club would want to oppress people. The local Moose club I belong to is closed, has nothing to hide, and does not with to oppress anyone.

Secret organizations do not openly share that they exist... what would be secret about that? Our lodges are easily spotted and we are definitely no secret organization. You can look up the lodge number in the phone book.
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why is masonic lodges represented in the snake cube way?
[link to www.mathematische-basteleien.de]
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What is the advantage for one to be both a Knight Templar and 32nd degree Mason in the mid west in the period 1900 to 1925?
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Is there a plan for alternative way to govern people. If you yourself believe in a higher power how can we believe that the masons are in the best intrest for the population. Athiest believe in scientific proof, why not let the religious, "Age Of Stupid" forfeit there reign on the peoples mind, and allow scientific reality take the "reigns" and guide everyone into the future instead of living blindly in the past.
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No game playing here. I am building the mass intention website as promised and for the reasons I stated.

The fact that I am a Freemason should have no bearing on that whatsoever. It is only the misconception in your mind about what you think it means for someone to be a Freemason.

The 33rd degree is an honorary rite usually given to those who spend a lot of time at the lodge and participate. I most likely will never make 33rd degree as I am a lone wolf by nature and do not attend lodge very often, maybe once or twice a year, just so I don't feel too much like a "paper mason".

The truth of the matter is that I joined Freemasonry to find out once and for all what is was about after having read so many different theories about it. What I found was nothing nefarious in the least bit. Contrast this to the time I was asked to join a local Chapter of the Golden Dawn and I bugged out in mid ritual while I was in the antechamber waiting to get initiated - I suddenly felt a very real sense that linking into this group was a VERY bad idea, so I walked out without saying a word to anyone.

At any rate. The modern Masonic lodge is unfortunately nothing more than a social guild. It is based however on the traditional western lodge magickal society. They do practice magick in the lodge. The funny thing is that 98% of the guys doing it do not know that is what they are doing. They are simply going through the motions without understanding the significance of the symbols and energies behind those symbols being worked. I was very disappointed to find this out hence my reluctance to spend much time up at the lodge.

I have learned more about magickal practice on my own than I ever have from Freemasonry.
 Quoting: galactronunit9 1022695

WHAT LODGE DO YOU BELONG TO
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The knights want a Papal apology nearly 700 years after they were disbanded and hounded into exile
By Ruth Gledhill
November 29, 2004

“The Knights Templar officially ceased to exist in the early 1300s, but the order continued underground. It was a huge organisation and the vast majority of Templars survived the persecution, including most of their leaders, along with much of their treasure and, most importantly, their original values and traditions.”
[link to www.timesonline.co.uk]
Templars absolved by Pope
October 16, 2007
[link to timescolumns.typepad.com]
[link to www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk]







Freemason Knights Templar

"All Knights Templar are members of the world's oldest fraternal organization known as "The Ancient Free and Accepted Masons" or more commonly known as Masons."
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]






Short history of the Knights Templar-Freemasons
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.archive.org]
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Any Mason that would openly say anything about anything they know about Freemasonry is a sorry excuse for a man or either lying... something's shouldn't be mentioned...if you want to know join if not stay in the dark on the subject...
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Any Mason that would openly say anything about anything they know about Freemasonry is a sorry excuse for a man or either lying... something's shouldn't be mentioned...if you want to know join if not stay in the dark on the subject...
 Quoting: Templar 16665372


Finally something being said I can comment on, if your a Mason then keep your mouth shut, what you learn in the lodge should stay in the lodge.
Memor Miles Militis Templar, pro quos nos pugna!

Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomine Tuo Da Gloriam!

Dante said,
‘The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.

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The path and reason why man exists should be simple and is simple. We are children of Adam and we have a purpose just as Adam did to please the creator of the Universe "Allah".

Allah sent many revelations onto Earth Via humans known as Prophets. Yes angels fascilitated this message.

The last message was revealed to an Arabian prophet who was unlettered. The book he left for us is Quran. The Quran is a guide on how to live on Earth. Its not Rocket Science.

I would rather follow revelation than man made laws.

Hope this helps


Sallam
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Good man.

But the why the need to PAY MONEY to advance?
Why the hoarding of knowledge?
Why the BOYS club?

It's shit.
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Paying money is a part of most any large enterprise. Bills have to be paid by some means. The amounts are not that outrageous. Something like $200 a year?

There is no hoarding of knowledge. Most of the knowledge is public information these days anyway. It is the use of that knowledge that is where the meat is.

Most anyone can join a lodge. The requirements are not that stringent. I was surprised when I got in as a 20 something year old fuck-up.

The secrecy component is not so much about keeping things hidden it is more about charging the knowledge contained within the structure of the secrecy.
 Quoting: galactronunit9 1022695


I now Have a hard time believing what you say, and all should remain skeptical, as so much is out of line with Masonry, it seems more like you played Assasins Creed, read a wiki article and researched the use of the symbols, though incorrectly.

Btw, dues are always under 100 per year. My lodge dues are 35 for the year.
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Any Mason that would openly say anything about anything they know about Freemasonry is a sorry excuse for a man or either lying... something's shouldn't be mentioned...if you want to know join if not stay in the dark on the subject...
 Quoting: Templar 16665372


Finally something being said I can comment on, if your a Mason then keep your mouth shut, what you learn in the lodge should stay in the lodge.
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You two sound like you are from England with that attitude.

The only secretes we have are the modes of recognition. The rest isnt imperative. You are charged only to live, work, and act as a better man, and to be honest you are for the most part only charged to keep modes of recognition a secret.
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Is it true that Freemasons are actually serving God or The Light, and working for the greater good of mankind?

Also, have Freemasons been helping me in my life?
 Quoting: Divine Inspiration


No. Sorry.
I am a 32nd as well. Ask a Freemason to do one damn thing for society. Now Freemason Shriners on the other hand are a different story. Ever see Freemason political activists? Ever see Freemason events of any kind? Nope. Boring. Useless. Worn out.
It's a fucking club for old coots. Gives them something to do. A sense of belonging. A hobby. A social network before the Internet. A church that doesn't scorn or judge them. A really simple little place to gather and be with men and not have arguments or apologize for beliefs for a few minutes a month. Man.
If you guys only knew how really boring it is.
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Any Mason that would openly say anything about anything they know about Freemasonry is a sorry excuse for a man or either lying... something's shouldn't be mentioned...if you want to know join if not stay in the dark on the subject...
 Quoting: Templar 16665372


Finally something being said I can comment on, if your a Mason then keep your mouth shut, what you learn in the lodge should stay in the lodge.
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As if there were any secrets to keep secret. Ha. Ha. Ha. Funny. Boooooorrriiiinnnnnggggg!!!!!!!!!
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There is no "secret." The only secrets we have are handshakes, recognition signs, etc. You want enlightenment? My suggestion would be to read the bible. The three degrees are representative of maturation through life stages.


I want to be more enlighted than I already am.
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As I stated before, the experience itself is a "secret", it cannot be described, it has to be experienced. This is done in the lodge - please tell how I can experience it now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1158723


Good question. Remember the scene when Neo meets the Oracle in The Matrix? That's what it's like. The experience is yours alone. It shouldn't be shared with anyone else. Same could be said of Military Boot Camp. It's your personal experience for self improvement. Others will never understand it. And it shouldn't be shared... Why... Because it would sound so silly. There is nothing wrong with self improvement.
I just wish Freemasonry WAS more politically active and NOT so damn boring after one reaches one step from the top. But it is what it is.

Imagine I'm submitting an evaluation for Freemasonry with 5 being STRONGLY ENJOY and 1 being TOTALLY SUCKS. I would truthfully have to chose between 2 & 3. Comment would be "BORING."

Give me one politician to influence and I might choose 4. Naww. Any politician would laugh at a Freemason trying to influence them today.

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everyone can become a 33+degree Freemason with this threads instructions> 777 is the number of god and i am god....
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...

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