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everyone can become a 33+degree Freemason with this threads instructions> 777 is the number of god and i am god....

...the secrets of the lodge are no longer secret,its the members private life secrets that you keep..

Would it not be more authentic to stand on your own two feet in a conversation rather than hide behind the old "most of us at GLP.." hat trick?

If you mean to say that you YOURSELF know about "Aleister Crowley" and Albert Pike's involvement in the Masonic culture
then you are not saying much to me yet imo. That is a VERY general statement to make.

What specifically do you mean to say about that? What do you know personally to be true about those subjects?

Trust me, I am very familiar with all the old canards that have been passed around regarding Freemasonry. Seeing if any of those things were true for myself was the primary reason I joined.

In my own experience I have found absolutely nothing immoral about Freemasonry as an institution or with the Mason's I know personally. I of course cannot speak about any one individual's actions who might have been a Freemason that I do not personally know.

You must also define the word MORAL and from what belief system you are basing that definition on.

It's not about what you think it's about. It's not even about what many other Freemasons think it's about.

Is it true that Freemasons are actually serving God or The Light, and working for the greater good of mankind?

Also, have Freemasons been helping me in my life?

dumb asses, Crowley and Pike never got over their mothers abuse and disapproval and grew to hate women..both were raised by closet butch lesbians who they themselves were raised by abusive male figures..their comes a time when it ends and someone has the bravery to stop it in its tracks ,see it for what it was and say the curse of abuse will not pass..

Let's just say I have a God given gift of intuition that runs through my family OP. I have met your ilk, and you stare. They stare with black empty eyes at me, confused, taken back that they cannot "hurt" me or control me with their gaze.

Baphomet/Jehbulon deceives you all. You're all really, really crazy. You really are going to bring about the new Babalon, aren't you? Even if it means destroying what your ilk refer to as "the herd, the masses".

You're all fucked in the head.

i know what the only secrets are but i will not reveal them to those in the world...

A+++

Very good. I would highly recommend Jung and the study of Alchemy.

I like the writings of Joseph Campbell too. TAROT REVELATIONS is my favorite book and talks about the evolution of man with Jungian psychology.

Thanks for your post (when Im feeling up to par ( I have a head cold) Ill read the rest of your comments)

With Faith , Hope and Charity, God Bless....

To the Stairway of Divine Providence and the Lamb of the Ages...

You state Alchemy and God in the same passage? Your stairway to the divine is equivalent to the well known song..."Stairway to Heaven"...the group loved A. Crowley, and I believe bought one of his homes. You are an occultist..stop seducing the innocents. I'm well aware of Jungian philosophy..amongst other things he was a material existentialist, and the original forerunner of the New Age mantra. Wow...you are one crazy spin artist!!

speak the truth and we will say if you are the real deal

I am a female interested in involvement with this organization. How or can it be done?

I think Freemasonry was instrumental in the formation of our Nation in the 1700's. Most great thinkers of the New Continent were either Freemasons and/or Rosicrucians. The tenents of Freemasonry are those of Freedom and Education to all people in America. I do admire the Freemasons very much because they are good people who care for the common folks.
The wrong accusations by some radical Christian Groups teach a wrong image of THE CRAFT. Learn History and you will see that Freemasonry is also Christian as well as Jewish and Muslim and Shinto and Buddhist. God bless America and The Freemasons!!!!

I am also a 32nd degree (Scottish Rite) Mason, an officer in Blue Lodge, initiated in York Rite, and yes even - gasp - a Shriner. I can verify that everything OP has said is accurate. Some great writing and explaining, OP. I especially liked your point relating to cargo cults.

The real conspiracy, as another poster alluded to, may be the conspiracy to portray Masons as the opposite of what they generally are - instead of benevolent and seeking traditional virtue, portray them as depraved and evil. Instead of having a history of upholding freedom, free thought, liberty and democracy, portray them as agents of an enslaving "New World Order". How is it that an institution which seems to have inspired many of the heros of the American Revolution has come to be seen as a dark and sinister thing seeking to undermine traditional American values and sovereignty?

And, for those of you seeking true conspiracy, think about it - whose agenda would such a misrepresentation serve?

Political and economic groups with their own radical agendas may, for all I know, recruit from Masons - as I would assume they do from Rotary Club, churches, political groups, industry groups, federal and local government, law enforcement, federal agencies, etc etc.

No human institution is perfect, that's obvious. Why should Masons be any different. But mostly I see that people who are active in Masonry are people who arrive for lodge meetings with a spirit of honest friendship and integrity. They are interested in the well-being of their fellow men (Masons or not) and, more often than not these days, they are troubled by the challenges facing our society and our country. They tend to be very patriotic and traditional in their notions of what America is and what it stands for.

They have a sense of humor and they range in age from 18 to 80++ although the older ages are certainly well represented. But isn't honoring and seeking wisdom from our elders a traditional value that is being implicitly trampled when people say they don't want to hang out with "those old farts"?

Aside from the philosophical, spiritual and philanthropic motivations that cause some people to enjoy Masonry, there is the fraternal - you can't understand Masonry's popularity without that. It is a society of men and is the prototype of many other fraternal organizations including fun-seeking college fraternities. Some guys are just bored and get involved because they enjoy hanging out with like-minded men who generally have a moral and philosophical outlook and, more often than not, a decent sense of humor. There is no alcohol allowed in a standard Masonic lodge (blue lodge) so it is a fairly healthy environment.

As for that infamous letter allegedly written by Albert Pike plotting World War III, I agree with those who say it is a fraud. It reads nothing like any of his other writing that I have read.

As for quoting this writer or that writer who claims Masonry can be interpreted in some kind of Luciferian terms, consider the source. There is every opinion under the sun about what Masonry "really" means and some of those are written by people with rather feverish brains who want to make it something that it is not for most members. Masonry's meaning is contained in symbols which, like all symbols, can contain multiple meanings based on their historical and cultural context. Christian Masons often interpret it all in Christian terms. Jewish, Universalist, Mormon, or whatever Masons interpret according to their faiths. Don't hand-pick some radical "magical" interpretation and ignore the many (and probably more popular) interpretations that are much more traditional in their outlook. Out of the thousands or tens of thousands of books on Masonry out there, you can always find some incendiary quote from some madman which represents nothing more than his own interpretation, vision, or fantasy.

What OP wrote is all accurate and well-written. Good job OP. For those of you who hate Masonry, that's fine. But don't accept what you read about it at face value - except this posting of course ;-) Apply your conspiracy filter and look beyond the claims that it's a conspiracy; is the claim that it's a particular type of conspiracy itself a conspiracy? Don't belittle Masonry by failing to realize that no matter how deep you may think you've seen down the rabbit hole, it may go yet further...

what is the passwor

It's not about what you think it's about. It's not even about what many other Freemasons think it's about.

Yeah, blame it all on Christians. Lol.

You prove my point. Freemasonry is full of immoral assholes who practice magic in hopes of gaining power, power for what, over others.

Greedy slime ball vermin.

Our God will take you down. Even some of your own members know this, and are waiting, in the shadows, some openly. Here's a member who saw you for what you are, and what your end would be... Johnny Cash.

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