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FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.

 
Tali

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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...
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suddenly, arizonas population begins to swell...with legal citizens from all ver the country?
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we all know one clear national standard is needed."


Dear Mr Soreto, we do have a notional standard in place. You just need to enforce it.
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...
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it was
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the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings

Mexican? How about the whole Colombia to US conduit, via Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico and the United States? And what about the drug dealers of Arizona and across the United States? Are they just sitting on their butt's allowing a bunch of foreigners to rule and profit -- the lucrative retail end -- on their territory?

Get real....


Oh thats right it couldn't be Mexicans or Mexican gangs.. So sorry we have them all confused with the other bad guys.
s226


You mean US gangs, run by Americans. Amigo...


Mexican-American gangs...geez get it right!


Americans by any other name are still American. Biker gangs, American, Street gangs, American, Businessmen, American, Bankers, American, Corrupt cops, border patrol, politicians, gun dealer, US military,,, American,,, And Little mommy's boy middle class small time drug dealer, American...

But you see brown people from Mexico doing all the work bringing your drugs to you...

BWAHAHAHA...


It is true that we have our share of criminals and shady people. The fact us we don't want yours too. You keep your criminals, your corrupt politicians and even more corrupt police.
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What a fucking marooon. Yeah, dont worry, we wont soil your precious lifestyle. Except when it interferes in ours.
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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I've known a few that have been in prison...CA has some of the most laid back prisons ever...

AZ is probably the most extreme from what I know...but even so I can't imagine it being the worst on the planet.
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Let me get this right... the Feds are suing a State because the State wants to enforce the Law and the Feds don't want to enforce the Law. In other words, the Feds want to engage in ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR?

Is that about it, then?


I think you nailed it!
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bump
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?
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Oh ok...well if you are talking prison conditions...I gotta disagree...

But I do have to agree with all the non-violent and retarded reasons to be there...waste of money IMHO.
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?


Oh ok...well if you are talking prison conditions...I gotta disagree...

But I do have to agree with all the non-violent and retarded reasons to be there...waste of money IMHO.
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Dont get me started on the secret prisons. Or the privatization program (the for profit biz), or the tax incentives and voting weight per incarcerated head...

It is INHUMAN and CORRUPT.
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It is the President's responsiblity to see to it that the current US Federal Immigration Laws are being fully enforced by Federal Law Enforcement. The buck stops at Obama. Obama needs to be fully enforcing the current US Federal Law or resign as President. Barring his resignation, he should be impeached for failure to uphold teh US Constitution and fulfilling his own to execute the Laws that the US Congress ahs already passed and he (or other Presidents) has already signed into Law.
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the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings

Mexican? How about the whole Colombia to US conduit, via Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico and the United States? And what about the drug dealers of Arizona and across the United States? Are they just sitting on their butt's allowing a bunch of foreigners to rule and profit -- the lucrative retail end -- on their territory?

Get real....


Oh thats right it couldn't be Mexicans or Mexican gangs.. So sorry we have them all confused with the other bad guys.
s226


You mean US gangs, run by Americans. Amigo...


Mexican-American gangs...geez get it right!


Americans by any other name are still American. Biker gangs, American, Street gangs, American, Businessmen, American, Bankers, American, Corrupt cops, border patrol, politicians, gun dealer, US military,,, American,,, And Little mommy's boy middle class small time drug dealer, American...

But you see brown people from Mexico doing all the work bringing your drugs to you...

BWAHAHAHA...


It is true that we have our share of criminals and shady people. The fact us we don't want yours too. You keep your criminals, your corrupt politicians and even more corrupt police.


What a fucking marooon. Yeah, dont worry, we wont soil your precious lifestyle. Except when it interferes in ours.
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Oh you mean like sucking the funds out of this country because your country cant make it on its on. The Mexican President gets on tv and whines about all the money from here not being sent back there because the ILLEGALS can't work here in many places. If Mexico is so wonderful and lovely why are they all flocking here? Aren't they educated enough to know its illegal. Oh thats right Mexico doesn't educate its peasants, they come here for that.

Don't want to talk about how the military had to be sent in because the police were so corrupt they protected the drug gangs for profit.

Do you ever wonder why people fee from your Precious Mexico by the 10's of thousands ever year. To come here... Oh thats right to have a better life.

Why is it that the people of AZ several times a year take donated supplies of clothing, building supplies, food and medical supplies to the shanty towns on the Mexican side of the border by the semi truck loads. Theses people live in cardboard shacks held together by bailing wire.

Oh I got it. Your one of the elite ruling class. You have an education. I bet you live in a house with electricity and running water. How many of your country men don't.
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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I've known a few that have been in prison...CA has some of the most laid back prisons ever...


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Laid back?

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I say just shoot them as they jump the fence and toss the bodies back onto the mexican side to rot in the hot sun..

Call it a " casual deterrent "..

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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?
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[link to laht.com]

Criminals Control About 100 Prisons in Mexico

MEXICO CITY – About 100 of Mexico’s 429 prisons, mainly state and municipal facilities, are controlled by inmates due to corruption or mismanagement by prison authorities, National Human Rights Commission, or CNDH, official Daniel Romero said.

Romero, one of the CNDH officials in charge of monitoring conditions at Mexican prisons, said the system of “self-government” is one of the factors behind the violence in penitentiaries.

Mexico’s prisons are frequently the scene of riots and fights, such as the disturbance at a prison in Mazatlan that left 29 inmates dead on Monday.

Five prison riots occurred in 2009, with the most violent incidents taking place in Tijuana, where 19 people died, and in Ciudad Juarez, where 20 inmates were killed.

Serious fights have occurred this month at prisons in Mazatlan and Aguarato, where six people died.

Both cities are in the northwestern state of Sinaloa, the birthplace of Mexico’s most powerful drug traffickers.

Inmates have used firearms in some of the fights, Romero said, blaming this on corruption and the power of prisoners at some facilities.

The inmates “set the conditions and not the authorities,” Romero said.

Inmates decide who will run the prison, charge for conjugal visits and control shops, cleaning services and other activities, the CNDH official said.

“Self-government happens mainly in state prisons and municipal jails or detention centers. It has been less common, fortunately, in the federal system,” Romero said.

CNDH studies have found, according to Romero, that 20 percent to 25 percent of Mexico’s prisons are controlled by inmates.

One theory is that inmates take control of prisons due to inadequate staffing and mismanagement, Romero said.
Mexico’s 429 federal, state and municipal prisons hold a total of 227,000 inmates.

The federal system includes maximum-security prisons whose effectiveness has been questioned due to the Jan. 19, 2001, escape from the Puente Grande penitentiary by Sinaloa cartel boss Joaquin “El Chapo” (Shorty) Guzman.

A CNDH study found “huge problems with the national penitentiary system, from the municipal detention center to the federal” prisons, with “the biggest problem” being inadequate funding.

Prisons are overcrowded, with the average facility about 25 percent over its capacity, the study found.

Guards need training and prisoners doing time for common crimes should be separated from inmates convicted of violating federal laws, the CNDH said.

The majority of prisons do not separate inmates, leading to problems such as the formation of factions and self-government, Romero said.

The study of the national penitentiary system, whose release started in April, “shows high-conflict situations, all of which are factors that should set off the red lights,” Romero said.

Jailing people is not going to put an end to crime because the issue of reincorporating convicts into society is not being addressed, the CNDH official said.

“The incidents are telling us every day that as long as we do not take the necessary action, the reactions, the rebellions and violations of human rights will continue” in the prisons, Romero said.

Romero said he wanted the federal government to build new prisons and the states to focus on the penitentiary systems since “they have been receiving federal resources for their refurbishment.”

The CNDH, an independent body, is preparing recommendations on the national prison system that will be ready in July, Romero said. EFE
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Az should sue them back for not protecting the border and not enforcing the laws that already exist
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+1 Dereliction of Duty
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?


Oh ok...well if you are talking prison conditions...I gotta disagree...

But I do have to agree with all the non-violent and retarded reasons to be there...waste of money IMHO.


Dont get me started on the secret prisons. Or the privatization program (the for profit biz), or the tax incentives and voting weight per incarcerated head...

It is INHUMAN and CORRUPT.
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Been watching more documentaries have ya LOL
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I say those who support the illegal immigrants should be shot for treason!!

Landlords for providing shelter to illegals.

Employers for financially supporting them..

Obamatards for being so stupid and supporting illegals.

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Az should sue them back for not protecting the border and not enforcing the laws that already exist


+1 Dereliction of Duty
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Any family that has lost a loved one from violent crimes from illegals should sue the Government ..
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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It's like Barry read a book on "How TO Screw Over Your Country and End your Political Career in 10 Easy Steps". He might have run a good campaign but he can't manage dick. He is self destructing.
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the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings

Mexican? How about the whole Colombia to US conduit, via Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico and the United States? And what about the drug dealers of Arizona and across the United States? Are they just sitting on their butt's allowing a bunch of foreigners to rule and profit -- the lucrative retail end -- on their territory?

Get real....


Oh thats right it couldn't be Mexicans or Mexican gangs.. So sorry we have them all confused with the other bad guys.
s226


You mean US gangs, run by Americans. Amigo...


Mexican-American gangs...geez get it right!


Americans by any other name are still American. Biker gangs, American, Street gangs, American, Businessmen, American, Bankers, American, Corrupt cops, border patrol, politicians, gun dealer, US military,,, American,,, And Little mommy's boy middle class small time drug dealer, American...

But you see brown people from Mexico doing all the work bringing your drugs to you...

BWAHAHAHA...


It is true that we have our share of criminals and shady people. The fact us we don't want yours too. You keep your criminals, your corrupt politicians and even more corrupt police.


What a fucking marooon. Yeah, dont worry, we wont soil your precious lifestyle. Except when it interferes in ours.


Oh you mean like sucking the funds out of this country because your country cant make it on its on. The Mexican President gets on tv and whines about all the money from here not being sent back there because the ILLEGALS can't work here in many places. If Mexico is so wonderful and lovely why are they all flocking here? Aren't they educated enough to know its illegal. Oh thats right Mexico doesn't educate its peasants, they come here for that.

Don't want to talk about how the military had to be sent in because the police were so corrupt they protected the drug gangs for profit.

Do you ever wonder why people fee from your Precious Mexico by the 10's of thousands ever year. To come here... Oh thats right to have a better life.

Why is it that the people of AZ several times a year take donated supplies of clothing, building supplies, food and medical supplies to the shanty towns on the Mexican side of the border by the semi truck loads. Theses people live in cardboard shacks held together by bailing wire.

Oh I got it. Your one of the elite ruling class. You have an education. I bet you live in a house with electricity and running water. How many of your country men don't.
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No, I am not one of the "elite" ruling class. I dont know whether to laugh or cry at your stupidity...

And you are touching on topics about Mexico where your interpretation has a political and ideological bias, and actually supports the view of the "ruling class elite". My view of the United States OTOH -- the composition of the drug trade -- is factual and non biased. Leave your nationalist "playing the victim" card, at the door. It doesnt impress me at all...
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Are you not the one that once told me that the US had the most inhuman jails in the world and you knew this to be true because you saw in in a documentary?


LOL whoever said that doesn't know jack squat...


it was
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What I mean by inhuman is the sheer numbers of non violent offenders behind bars, and the outrageous sentencing, and on and on and on. It is a breeding ground for an entire class of hard core criminality. Duh! Retribution and mandatory sentencing as policy is a bitch and it comes back to bite you hard. But hey, Calderon deploys the Army and look what all the good that's doing?


Oh ok...well if you are talking prison conditions...I gotta disagree...

But I do have to agree with all the non-violent and retarded reasons to be there...waste of money IMHO.


Dont get me started on the secret prisons. Or the privatization program (the for profit biz), or the tax incentives and voting weight per incarcerated head...

It is INHUMAN and CORRUPT.



Been watching more documentaries have ya LOL
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Oh I forgot,,, You Americans dont regard facts as evidence. Just stupid out of context emotional anecdotes...
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The CNDH, an independent body, is preparing recommendations on the national prison system that will be ready in July, Romero said. EFE
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Oh I see, so my claim about US prisons is diminished by the above article? How so? I dont pretend Mexican prisons are a cake walk. And I wont humiliate myself by defending them, by calling them "laid back", or pretending they are any better than they are, as if my national identity depended on it. Unlike you....
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Why do Democrats not have a comprehesive immigration reform right now?
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This may have been brought up in response already, but I must say I do not think we need reform. What we need is actual enforcement of existing law.
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I say we all move to Arizona, pick up a gun,stand a post and defend this land from all threats foreign and domestic.
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Friend of mine as been sending resumes to AZ, planning on moving there. One of the big reasons is to have a vote in AZ and supporting that state. He has a great idea for a "made in America" viable business too. Would rather start it there than in CA. Lots of AZ retirees would LOVE to have something to do and earn a bit of money.

This is the type of things we need to do people. We do have the power.
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the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.

clappa
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I had always thought in cases where Federal Law is supposedly supreme that states can add to it, but not take away?
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the wave of Mexican drug-related kidnappings and killings

Mexican? How about the whole Colombia to US conduit, via Panama, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico and the United States? And what about the drug dealers of Arizona and across the United States? Are they just sitting on their butt's allowing a bunch of foreigners to rule and profit -- the lucrative retail end -- on their territory?

Get real....


Oh thats right it couldn't be Mexicans or Mexican gangs.. So sorry we have them all confused with the other bad guys.
s226


You mean US gangs, run by Americans. Amigo...


Mexican-American gangs...geez get it right!


Americans by any other name are still American. Biker gangs, American, Street gangs, American, Businessmen, American, Bankers, American, Corrupt cops, border patrol, politicians, gun dealer, US military,,, American,,, And Little mommy's boy middle class small time drug dealer, American...

But you see brown people from Mexico doing all the work bringing your drugs to you...

BWAHAHAHA...


It is true that we have our share of criminals and shady people. The fact us we don't want yours too. You keep your criminals, your corrupt politicians and even more corrupt police.


What a fucking marooon. Yeah, dont worry, we wont soil your precious lifestyle. Except when it interferes in ours.


Oh you mean like sucking the funds out of this country because your country cant make it on its on. The Mexican President gets on tv and whines about all the money from here not being sent back there because the ILLEGALS can't work here in many places. If Mexico is so wonderful and lovely why are they all flocking here? Aren't they educated enough to know its illegal. Oh thats right Mexico doesn't educate its peasants, they come here for that.

Don't want to talk about how the military had to be sent in because the police were so corrupt they protected the drug gangs for profit.

Do you ever wonder why people fee from your Precious Mexico by the 10's of thousands ever year. To come here... Oh thats right to have a better life.

Why is it that the people of AZ several times a year take donated supplies of clothing, building supplies, food and medical supplies to the shanty towns on the Mexican side of the border by the semi truck loads. Theses people live in cardboard shacks held together by bailing wire.

Oh I got it. Your one of the elite ruling class. You have an education. I bet you live in a house with electricity and running water. How many of your country men don't.


No, I am not one of the "elite" ruling class. I dont know whether to laugh or cry at your stupidity...

And you are touching on topics about Mexico where your interpretation has a political and ideological bias, and actually supports the view of the "ruling class elite". My view of the United States OTOH -- the composition of the drug trade -- is factual and non biased. Leave your nationalist "playing the victim" card, at the door. It doesnt impress me at all...
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First of all impressing you has not even come onto my radar. I couldn't care less what you think about me.

Not playing the victim... stating the facts the way they are. Don't like it prove me wrong.

Answer my questions. You don't discuss you attack. You call people names.

No where have I never said that Americans are not responsible for the drug trade here. Are you willing to say the same things about Mexicans. No you deflect it to other countries and nationalities.


You come on here to bash Americans thats it. You don't look for solutions because no where have you ever stated the the Mexicans have any compatibility in any of this mess.


Your country men are always the victims here. We are the bad guys, always.
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What you dont hear about in Mexico, is about the people incarcerated in this "drug war". Over 200,000. Where the Army rules (martial law) normal civil procedures are suspended. We dont need draconian laws and mandatory sentencing, we got non transparency and impunity....
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The CNDH, an independent body, is preparing recommendations on the national prison system that will be ready in July, Romero said. EFE


Oh I see, so my claim about US prisons is diminished by the above article? How so? I dont pretend Mexican prisons are a cake walk. And I wont humiliate myself by defending them, by calling them "laid back", or pretending they are any better than they are, as if my national identity depended on it. Unlike you....
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I have never claimed that US jails are anything but what they factually are. You on the other hand refuse to acknowledge that Mexico has some of the most violent jails in the Americas.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
You come on here to bash Americans thats it. You don't look for solutions because no where have you ever stated the the Mexicans have any compatibility in any of this mess.


Your country men are always the victims here. We are the bad guys, always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1027220


You dont know me at all. I am for unity, a reaching out between peoples. The corrupt system in Mexico is on a precipice -- with real social tensions involving real people. As it comes tumbling down you will most probably get a crash course in the real internal affairs of this country. When that happens, you can speak to me with some real time knowledge as events unfold, not this artificial self centered superficial nonsense I always hear....