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Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.

They're going back to the same place they came from, things might look a bit different, boarders will be redrawn but ultimately the aristocracy will be in power and the rest of us will still hate eachother (Divide and conquer the pleebs are divided against eachother and the rich conquer)

They do not have 'alien' rulers like you might think. They often refer to themselves as aliens because they truly believe they are a greater race of beings, not human like us but smarter and stronger and better(not true of course but they think so, really just like Hitler) They didn't need aliens to help them conquer us, they conquered us eons ago when we thought the 10 square mile pond we lived near was the whole world, it was like taking candy from a baby. Originally they were shaman types and magicians. They wowed people by throwing clay rocks into lakes and turning them a bit red, they did this up stream so people couldn't see them. The slaves thought this was magic and worshiped them as Gods. They pull the same tricks today, I know how UFO's fly and I'll post that in a bit, it's incredibly simple you're gonna kick yourself for not figuring it out.



How can they hide themselves so well?

Like, we eat cloned animals...People don't know.
Flouride is worse for you than good, and people don't know.
Sept 11 was an inside job, and people are just starting to know...if that.
4/20/10 was an inside job, and no one cares.

How can this secret go on?

And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?
 Quoting: guy369

Are you poking fun at the OP or do you really want to know the answers? chuckle

The OP can't answer a single one of those but I'm betting you already know that and that you already know the answers too. chuckle

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You really are clueless! crazy

We are ALL aliens! chuckle Not a single race on the planet originated here!

Ever watch the movie Contact? hmm Where He told her "This is the way it's always been done."? Did you ever watch the movie The Village? Well, that's how it IS done except on a planetary scale, not just ONE village. chuckle And the ONES involved, are the Illuminati and they work directly for God, you fool! groucho

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To be honest it could be looked upon that my explanation of God could be considered aliens as they are an advanced race from another Universe
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Very interesting and eye opening. So the illuminati plan on keeping us working till forever or what? Its a big universe out there or so it seems. Do they ever plan on getting us off this rock?


It is a big universe and they start plans hundreds of years in advance, remember they and their ancestors have been doing this for thousands upon thousands of years and have become exceedingly good at it. I would imagine the next big shake up they're planning will move us to other planets. In fact this shake up is probably so big because they're getting things setup for the next big change.
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They've been doing it for BILLIONS of years! laugh

You really are clueless & brainwashed! stoned

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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


Yes or No...were the illuminati responsible for the establishment and management of the Sumerian Empire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009642


YES...

"Archaeological (written) evidence goes as far back to man’s history beginning with Sumer – but for our own purposes- just for today - we will begin with a later civilization. We will start with the kings of the ancient nation of Assyria.

Mut Ashkur – 1730 BC – 1720 **(preceded by his son Ishme – Dagan I –

(WHO RULED THE SAME TIME AS HIS FATHER?)

Ishme – Dagan I – 1730 BC – 1720

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.jstor.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ashur – Uballit II – 1363 BC – 1328

[link to encyclopedia.farlex.com]

Adad – Nirari I - 1307 BCE – 1295

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Shalmaneser I – 1247 BCE – 1245

[link to farm4.static.flickr.com]

Tukulti – Ninurta I – 1243 BC – 1207

[link to ancientheros.com]

Ashur –Dan 1 – 1179 BC – 1133

[link to encyclopedia.farlex.com]

Ninurta – Apal – Ekur – 1182 BC – 1180

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

Asher – Dan I – 1179 BC - 1133

[link to antikforever.com]

Ashur – Resh – Ishi I – 1133 BC – 1115

[link to creationwiki.org]

Tiglath – Pileser I – 1114 BC - 1076

[link to www.yahwehsword.org]

Shamash Adad IV – 1054 BC – 1050 [link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

Ashurnasirpal - 1050 BC – 1031

[link to josetorregrosa.files.wordpress.com]

Shalmaneser II - 1013 BC –

[link to www.bible-history.com]

Ashur – Resh – Ishi II – 972 BC – 967

[link to www.evri.com]

Tiglath-Pileser II – 967 BC – 935

[link to www.google.com]

Ashur – Dan II - 935 BC – 912

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Adad-Nirani II - 911 BC – 891

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Tukulti-Ninurta II – 891 BC – 884

[link to farm4.static.flickr.com]

Ashur – Nasirpal II – 883 BC – 859

[link to www.museumartifact.com (secure)]

Shalmaneser III – 859 BC – 824

[link to www.gutenberg.org]

Shamshi – Adad V - 824 BC – 811

[link to www.google.com]

Adad-Nirari III – 811 BC – 783

[link to www.google.com]

Tiglath Pileser III - 745 BC – 727

[link to www.bible-history.com]

Shalmeneser V - 727 BC – 722

[link to www.google.com]

Sargon II - 722 BC – 705 (co-ruler with Shalmaneser V)

[link to www.google.com]

Sennacherib II - 704 BC – 681

[link to www.claudemariottini.com]

Esarhaddon – 680 BC – 669

[link to www.google.com]

Alright children – now why is it that all these ancient Assyrian kings look like the same exact person?

Because – THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON!

History and archaeological evidences have shown you that all these kings under different names – which are documented in your history books – lived a life span over hundreds of years !

And though it looks to be human in some repect – it is NOT human.

This is the man spoken of in Habukkuk which is said to – “beat the nations without mercy.”

Now remember – this is not the only manifestation of this sun god.

It takes on so many disguises – it isn’t possible to show you all of them.

[link to www.redmoonrising.com]

“The sun with healing in its wings…” Malachi

This is the false god – the false Messiah – the one who has walked the earth a million times over as a false prophet of GOD and the false savior of men.

It claims it is the Creator – do not be deceived beloved ones!

Keep researching!

Stay strong and keep practicing THE LAW given to you on this site. [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com"]
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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.
 Quoting: Adam.Ryder


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?
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Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.

They're going back to the same place they came from, things might look a bit different, boarders will be redrawn but ultimately the aristocracy will be in power and the rest of us will still hate eachother (Divide and conquer the pleebs are divided against eachother and the rich conquer)

They do not have 'alien' rulers like you might think. They often refer to themselves as aliens because they truly believe they are a greater race of beings, not human like us but smarter and stronger and better(not true of course but they think so, really just like Hitler) They didn't need aliens to help them conquer us, they conquered us eons ago when we thought the 10 square mile pond we lived near was the whole world, it was like taking candy from a baby. Originally they were shaman types and magicians. They wowed people by throwing clay rocks into lakes and turning them a bit red, they did this up stream so people couldn't see them. The slaves thought this was magic and worshiped them as Gods. They pull the same tricks today, I know how UFO's fly and I'll post that in a bit, it's incredibly simple you're gonna kick yourself for not figuring it out.



How can they hide themselves so well?

Like, we eat cloned animals...People don't know.
Flouride is worse for you than good, and people don't know.
Sept 11 was an inside job, and people are just starting to know...if that.
4/20/10 was an inside job, and no one cares.

How can this secret go on?

And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?

Are you poking fun at the OP or do you really want to know the answers? chuckle

The OP can't answer a single one of those but I'm betting you already know that and that you already know the answers too. chuckle

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 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


I do expect answers!

You can't make statements without being able to answer the critics..
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You really are clueless! crazy

We are ALL aliens! chuckle Not a single race on the planet originated here!

Ever watch the movie Contact? hmm Where He told her "This is the way it's always been done."? Did you ever watch the movie The Village? Well, that's how it IS done except on a planetary scale, not just ONE village. chuckle And the ONES involved, are the Illuminati and they work directly for God, you fool! groucho

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To be honest it could be looked upon that my explanation of God could be considered aliens as they are an advanced race from another Universe
 Quoting: Adam.Ryder

Did you NOT get what I said?

Not a SINGLE race on THIS planet started here! We ALL began somewhere else and were brought here!

Who brought us here?

God!

Who knows the whole story?

The Illuminati!

Why?

The Illuminati work directly for God and are the descendants of those who started this Village! chuckle

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Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.


You're getting CLOSER... but not there YET.

It DOES have to do with spirituality, but not like you think.

Sorry to burst your spiritual bubble, and that of anyone else's, and I too was shocked to discover this as well, but it is the TRUTH:

"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
- Pope Leo X.

ALL RELIGIONS ARE TOOLS OF THE RULERS TO CONTROL THE MASSES.


There is no ONE specific person who will be an "anti-christ" that is just subterfuge to lead people on an endless goose chase while THEY work behind the scenes to create MORE CONTROL.

IF you go back in time and study history, ALL RULERS WERE GODS. As they died and were replaced by their progeny, their "legend" became the "story" of the "god."

There is ONE CHIEF ENTITY or Spirit if you will, who has reincarnated over and over and over ad infinitum from the beginning of time as the CHEIF RULER... and has split off spiritually into other "tribes" to be the King/Ruler... ALL WITH THE SAME AGENDA.

You can visibly see the manifestation of Evil on this planet by the actions taken by the RULING CLASS. You can see it ALL DOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO THE PRESENT DAY.

You CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AT HAND WITHOUT LOOKING TO THE SUPERNATURAL and understanding THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE SITUATION.

I"m not talking Religion here; I am talking PURE SPIRIT ENERGY. The essence of the question: WHO am I?? WHAT is MY CONSCIOUSNESS?? Science knows it is NOT the Brain. So WHAT is IT?? IT IS SPIRIT. WHERE did it COME FROM?? Is there ONLY ONE KIND OF SPIRIT???

Once you begin looking at the situation from this point of view, you begin to understand the nature of what is REALLY GOING ON.

It is for this VERY REASON that Religion was conceived to confuse and mislead the masses. It is for this very reason that Science attempts to tell us we are nothing MORE than organic organisms that "evolved" to the state of humankind today. THEY BOTH TAKE THE FOCUS OFF THE REAL QUESTIONS.



That quote comes from a play that was written where the character of the pope Leo said that line. This is not an actual quote from pope Leo - although I would agree with the sentiment that all churches and organized religions are false.


I prefer not to make broad generalizations, at any rate what I am proposing is not an 'organized' religion.

Do what you want is not exactly like any 'organized' religion I know of. If you see my post about how a free will society where nothing is bought or sold you can see how things workout without money or trade. Also there would be no church or places of worship. Doing your own will is how you worship God in my opinion because your will is his will.
 Quoting: Adam.Ryder


I was actually referring to AC1012473's post. Sorry for the confusion.
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Just wanna say thank you to the kind contributors to this thread. It all seems like a bad screenplay. When I meditated once, and tried to see god, I saw everyone and everything... not like a single entity we imagine. like a huge ball of knowledge. Neither good or evil.. just existing and fuuuullll of information. I wonder if that is correct or just a shitty manifestation of my weak brain. :)

I would like to think things like humility, valor, kindness hold true with such a god, but I am not sure due to the state of things.

The meek shall inherit the earth... well, it doesnt look like anytime soon. I feel like a doormat of society.


My biggest struggle right now is how to separate myself from money... water can be found free.. but seeds, shelter, even a place to camp out.. take money.

We have a great infrastructure, if only we can claim it for ourselves, and cast away those that wish to divide and compete.
 Quoting: thinK.

We have an expression here in Denmark
It is used when you are lost in others eyes or have felt you were ''lost'' in manny cases (outside society/citys) often wandering about, or just when you felt lost in relation to a situation you were in, and did not know how to work it out.
It goes like this (Jeg var på herrens mark)
Translated it means (I was on Gods field)
It allso means you were at a place where the only entities in power was you and the lord.
In this system (world society as we know it today)
If you exit the bondage set up by men, you quickly hear people around you going - Damm that guy/gal is lost,out there, or wandering gods field,cracy,crack pot,insane (put 100 more definitions here)
I think and belive, that this (beeing on the field of God) is the only place you can find the ansvers you seek, you can get hints and whatnot when living in bondage, but if you do not exit, you will forget over and over again, because there is so much resistance from every direction around you.
One more thing - books and infomation can be an eye opener, but it does not change facts, when you were a child and wandered of on to gods field or play ground, did you remember how fullfilling that was, did reading any book out there make the experience any better?
There are so manny books(not naming any) that draws people back to bondage, and that is the purpose of manny books, they really work good at making you feel lonely allso, i am so lonely i cant wait to get back into buisness/bondage, see my point here?
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In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?


Here's your answer, although it's probably not the answer you are looking for...

[link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



Trollin' hard.


I went to your link... saw Deuteronomy and closed the window. I figure that if a god is really that concerned with the actions of his children.. he will let them know, personally. I refuse to take someone elses world (bible) as truth as it relates to MY eternal soul.. and it feels good. I am responsible for myself..

I don't know if it is correct, but I know it feels right.


Try to get past your knee jerk reactions from the lies of the world...

YES; about 90% of the BIBLE is complete and utter LIES.

It has been corrupted since the beginning. But for those who earnestly seek with the HEART you will find the TRUTH buried within...

Remember: In order for a counterfeit to pass as the original, it MUSThave some elements of TRUTH relating to the original...

I am not trolling...

I am only trying to get the word out about the TRUTH, about WHO the "masters" REALLY ARE, and WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

If you want to keep going the way that humankind has been going, then by all means, ignore the references.

BUT... if you want to stop the death and destruction, then try reading it... read some of the other posts, about the various ways that evil has manifested itself through the ruling class and how it has been disguised to look like truth down through history...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012473


With this I find it important to note that the Illuminati are not technically the masters, they too are slaves. They must slave all day to protect their secrets and power.

More importantly is that each individual is both a master and slave. Each individual gives or sells their will to another based out of fear that if they do not harm will come to them, either in the lack of money or the receipt of anger/ire from another whom has demanded said will be handed over. Each individual also demands that others give them their will either by demanding someone get a job and help the evils of this world enslave more or by demanding a 'loved' one be at thanksgiving dinner even if they would rather not.

In actuality it might seem that what the people at the top of the pyramid have done is quite horrid, but they have only committed the very same evils that every other individual has. Everyone committed the crime of stealing free wills (souls) and everyone is equally to blame for this mess.

I feel now is a good time to mention that I am in no way shape or form trying to foment anger towards the upper class or illuminati, my last paragraph states clearly that we are all equally guilty no one any more or less than another. To punish the illuminati for a crime you as well committed is hypocracy.
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You really are clueless! crazy

We are ALL aliens! chuckle Not a single race on the planet originated here!

Ever watch the movie Contact? hmm Where He told her "This is the way it's always been done."? Did you ever watch the movie The Village? Well, that's how it IS done except on a planetary scale, not just ONE village. chuckle And the ONES involved, are the Illuminati and they work directly for God, you fool! groucho

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To be honest it could be looked upon that my explanation of God could be considered aliens as they are an advanced race from another Universe

Did you NOT get what I said?

Not a SINGLE race on THIS planet started here! We ALL began somewhere else and were brought here!

Who brought us here?

God!

Who knows the whole story?

The Illuminati!

Why?

The Illuminati work directly for God and are the descendants of those who started this Village! chuckle

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


I'm not sure you read my post about who God is on page 2.
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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009642


To persue them to their deaths in my opinion does not mean actual physical violence. If peace is brought to Earth then the illuminati don't actually exist anymore, even if their bodies do their mentalities are dead. Dead as not existent and life as that which exists. an illuminist is only that because they believe it, if they no longer believe it and practice it then they no longer are it.
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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?


To persue them to their deaths in my opinion does not mean actual physical violence. If peace is brought to Earth then the illuminati don't actually exist anymore, even if their bodies do their mentalities are dead. Dead as not existent and life as that which exists. an illuminist is only that because they believe it, if they no longer believe it and practice it then they no longer are it.
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Well, that's just fine. I will cripple their belief system.
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Question;

1. What's the end game?

2. Where are they going with us?

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?

4. How can they hide themselves so well?

5. How can this secret go on?

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


I do expect answers!

You can't make statements without being able to answer the critics..
 Quoting: guy369

1. Whatever the current experiment in Life is! In our case, Free Will and a few other things.

2. To Ascend!

3. We are all Alien to this planet but their Ruler, if you want to call Him such, is God!

4. Misdirection! They are known by all kinds of names - Illuminati - Freemasons - Knights Templar. Do you really think the Knights Templar were all killed on Friday the 13th? hmm The Number 13 is an important biblical number. Just how much of written history do you think actually happened? chuckle Who writes history? hmm

5. See answer #4.

6. See answer #3.

7. Ever see the movie Stargate? What were the "Villagers" doing in that movie? hmm What was that ore? chuckle

Gold is what's needed to fix our sun and get us back to "normal" again and what the sun is doing right now, which you are absolutely clueless what the sun is actually doing right now, was known by the Mayans way back when and is why they predected what they did. When God's Army arrives, they will take the gold and fix our sun, but after the Cleansing is complete, not before! The sun will assist in the Cleansing portion coming. ohyeah

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You really are clueless! crazy

We are ALL aliens! chuckle Not a single race on the planet originated here!

Ever watch the movie Contact? hmm Where He told her "This is the way it's always been done."? Did you ever watch the movie The Village? Well, that's how it IS done except on a planetary scale, not just ONE village. chuckle And the ONES involved, are the Illuminati and they work directly for God, you fool! groucho

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To be honest it could be looked upon that my explanation of God could be considered aliens as they are an advanced race from another Universe

Did you NOT get what I said?

Not a SINGLE race on THIS planet started here! We ALL began somewhere else and were brought here!

Who brought us here?

God!

Who knows the whole story?

The Illuminati!

Why?

The Illuminati work directly for God and are the descendants of those who started this Village! chuckle

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I'm not sure you read my post about who God is on page 2.
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I'm still on Page 1! chuckle

I'll get there soon and then I'll reply! thumbs

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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?


To persue them to their deaths in my opinion does not mean actual physical violence. If peace is brought to Earth then the illuminati don't actually exist anymore, even if their bodies do their mentalities are dead. Dead as not existent and life as that which exists. an illuminist is only that because they believe it, if they no longer believe it and practice it then they no longer are it.



Well, that's just fine. I will cripple their belief system.
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Please do!!
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I think that planet Earth needs refreshing . How can we do this? Should there be a system on the planet whereby all beings are encouraged to evolve without intentional harm to others?
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I think that planet Earth needs refreshing . How can we do this? Should there be a system on the planet whereby all beings are encouraged to evolve without intentional harm to others?
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In this probably lies our greatest challenge, possibly ever. I do so believe this can be overcome.

First and foremost is lead by example. Living your own lives peacefully and with great happiness and ultimate freedom will do a great deal to show others that it is truly the way to be. Simply by being yourself others will see and like the idea.

Actually being yourself is what it's all about, education plays a great roll, but not nearly the same as you may remember it. People may seek to teach or show others under their own free will and naturally they will only teach others that wish to learn. Those that wish to learn will come, again, simply by seeing with their own eyes that this way of life works and works well. It's up to the people how we spread these ideas, not forcibly of course. The world is connected as never before. Television, radio and internet can be used to broadcast ourselves simply being ourselves. Billions will have the ability to see these things. They will look at their TV screens and see people absolutely happy and enjoying life, then they will turn to see their dull and listless way of bondage. The choice is clear and I believe that will be noticed.
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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009642

Watch this movie:

[link to www.imdb.com]

Then understand the Illuminati are similar to Ra's al Ghul, except they pull the strings and make it happen, as instructed by God!

The Illuminati actually have a Playbook, with the entire history of Us already written. chuckle But it is a simple outline, not absolute and precise. thumbs

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Question;

1. What's the end game?

2. Where are they going with us?

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?

4. How can they hide themselves so well?

5. How can this secret go on?

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


I do expect answers!

You can't make statements without being able to answer the critics..

1. Whatever the current experiment in Life is! In our case, Free Will and a few other things.

2. To Ascend!

3. We are all Alien to this planet but their Ruler, if you want to call Him such, is God!

4. Misdirection! They are known by all kinds of names - Illuminati - Freemasons - Knights Templar. Do you really think the Knights Templar were all killed on Friday the 13th? hmm The Number 13 is an important biblical number. Just how much of written history do you think actually happened? chuckle Who writes history? hmm

5. See answer #4.

6. See answer #3.

7. Ever see the movie Stargate? What were the "Villagers" doing in that movie? hmm What was that ore? chuckle

Gold is what's needed to fix our sun and get us back to "normal" again and what the sun is doing right now, which you are absolutely clueless what the sun is actually doing right now, was known by the Mayans way back when and is why they predected what they did. When God's Army arrives, they will take the gold and fix our sun, but after the Cleansing is complete, not before! The sun will assist in the Cleansing portion coming. ohyeah

Ribbit hunter
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Thanks Toad.

But, I know where you stand on most things.

I want the OP to answer them!
It's his theory I want to debunk!
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So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?

Watch this movie:

[link to www.imdb.com]

Then understand the Illuminati are similar to Ra's al Ghul, except they pull the strings and make it happen, as instructed by God!

The Illuminati actually have a Playbook, with the entire history of Us already written. chuckle But it is a simple outline, not absolute and precise. thumbs

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I think I am working with much better information. I suppose then that would explain why all their shit is on hold; as per the offer thread that inspired this thread.

Their playbook with the history is now obsolete. Sweet.

I've got the only Throne actually worth something.

Kiss your asses goodbye.
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I think that planet Earth needs refreshing . How can we do this? Should there be a system on the planet whereby all beings are encouraged to evolve without intentional harm to others?
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There is a System already in place and it's doing its thing! chuckle

It's up to each and every ONE of us to get on that train or stay at the station and perish! chuckle

The trains a'coming! You staying or going? hmm



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Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
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well who created it then?
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Question;

1. What's the end game?

2. Where are they going with us?

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?

4. How can they hide themselves so well?

5. How can this secret go on?

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


I do expect answers!

You can't make statements without being able to answer the critics..

1. Whatever the current experiment in Life is! In our case, Free Will and a few other things.

2. To Ascend!

3. We are all Alien to this planet but their Ruler, if you want to call Him such, is God!

4. Misdirection! They are known by all kinds of names - Illuminati - Freemasons - Knights Templar. Do you really think the Knights Templar were all killed on Friday the 13th? hmm The Number 13 is an important biblical number. Just how much of written history do you think actually happened? chuckle Who writes history? hmm

5. See answer #4.

6. See answer #3.

7. Ever see the movie Stargate? What were the "Villagers" doing in that movie? hmm What was that ore? chuckle

Gold is what's needed to fix our sun and get us back to "normal" again and what the sun is doing right now, which you are absolutely clueless what the sun is actually doing right now, was known by the Mayans way back when and is why they predected what they did. When God's Army arrives, they will take the gold and fix our sun, but after the Cleansing is complete, not before! The sun will assist in the Cleansing portion coming. ohyeah

Ribbit hunter



Thanks Toad.

But, I know where you stand on most things.

I want the OP to answer them!
It's his theory I want to debunk!
 Quoting: guy369

The OP can't answer what he doesn't know! chuckle

He thinks the Illuminati are evil when they are the most righteous peeps on this planet! worship They have a direct line to God and the OP has a cell phone! laugh

C'est la Vie! chuckle

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Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
-Adam

well who created it then?
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In Christianity, there is The Father, Son, & Holy Ghost.

The Holy Ghost created the Universe and continutes to do so! worship

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The OP can't answer what he doesn't know! chuckle

He thinks the Illuminati are evil when they are the most righteous peeps on this planet! worship They have a direct line to God and the OP has a cell phone! laugh

C'est la Vie! chuckle

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I don't agree about the direct line to 'God'

They're likely controlled by what many people would consider a god.

Not me though - I know better...
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Question;

1. What's the end game?

2. Where are they going with us?

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?

4. How can they hide themselves so well?

5. How can this secret go on?

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


I do expect answers!

You can't make statements without being able to answer the critics..

1. Whatever the current experiment in Life is! In our case, Free Will and a few other things.

2. To Ascend!

3. We are all Alien to this planet but their Ruler, if you want to call Him such, is God!

4. Misdirection! They are known by all kinds of names - Illuminati - Freemasons - Knights Templar. Do you really think the Knights Templar were all killed on Friday the 13th? hmm The Number 13 is an important biblical number. Just how much of written history do you think actually happened? chuckle Who writes history? hmm

5. See answer #4.

6. See answer #3.

7. Ever see the movie Stargate? What were the "Villagers" doing in that movie? hmm What was that ore? chuckle

Gold is what's needed to fix our sun and get us back to "normal" again and what the sun is doing right now, which you are absolutely clueless what the sun is actually doing right now, was known by the Mayans way back when and is why they predected what they did. When God's Army arrives, they will take the gold and fix our sun, but after the Cleansing is complete, not before! The sun will assist in the Cleansing portion coming. ohyeah

Ribbit hunter



Thanks Toad.

But, I know where you stand on most things.

I want the OP to answer them!
It's his theory I want to debunk!
 Quoting: guy369


Sorry I must have missed this, I'm trying to get everyone's questions in.


1. What's the end game? I believe the game is played to win, the end is when someone wins and God is going to win, this is the end game.

2. Where are they going with us? Not sure what you mean by they, probably the illuminati and if that's the case the answer is nowhere, this stops now.

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to? I suppose you could call my explanation of God alien rulers since they come from another Universe. Even now we have people that have intelligence types that can deceive and intelligence types that are not so good at such things. It was the same then only with less knowledge to impress a population of people one need only create a fire and call himself magical.

4. How can they hide themselves so well? There is no limit to Human ingenuity, we were created by and indeed are the most powerful intelligent force in the Universe.

5. How can this secret go on? It won't, it's being outted now.

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times? Going to refer you to my answer in number 3. Actually I'll add another example. I would imagine using a log as a lever to tumble a large rock down a small cliff and crush a hut was enough to impress our early ancestors.

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose? People want gold. If you have something someone wants really bad you can make them do almost anything. Ever seen a klondike bar commercial? Okay that was a joke, but seriously some people will do the craziest things for something they think will make them rich and famous.
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The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state.

What you at the bottom or employees call civilization.

since it's absolute capitalistic...It survives by taking more than it gives.

The top or employers of the enterprise grow richer in power by taking more power from the bottom than they give to the bottom while the bottom grows poorer in power buy giving more power to the top than they take from the top.

once the top has sucked the bottom dry...the enterprise cannibalizes itself and implodes.

All the enterprise is designed to do is take more than it gives until it can no longer.

The logical conclusion of the choice to take more than you give is collapse.

An example is needing to chop down trees to power your enterprise.

chopping down trees faster than they regrow is taking more than you give.

You need to chop down trees or your enterprise collapses.

But if you are chopping down trees faster than they regrow the collapse is inevitable when you run out of the required amount of trees.

So the only way to avoid reaching the logical conclusion of the choice to take more than you give is to choose to not take more than you give.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state can do is inflate to maximum potential then implode.

If you try to avoid reaching the maximum potential and imploding by choosing to stop taking more than you give...that is maximum potential and you just implode sooner rather than later.

The top know that this enterprise is inevitably doomed to inflate to maximum potential and implode.

The top teach you all how to read write do math and how to think.

You all at the bottom are totally oblivious.

All money is decreed money...fiat...

The top says this is money...Or else...period end of story....

You Farmer are on the Land owned by the LORD of the land and will pay tribute to the LORD of 1 Gold coin a year...

Where do I get this GOLD coin?

You can take one short ton of grain to the grainery of the LORD and there you will be given a GOLD coin for it and then you can give the gold coin to the servant of the LORD...

What if I refuse?

Then the LORD will drive you from the Land that the LORD is the LORD of...

There you go an abundant supply of free food to power your wildest hopes and dreams...Lies and delusions...

22 And the LORD said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,
23 The LORD sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.
24 And He drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life.

Well what is done with all that Food the tillers of the LORD's land give the LORD as Tribute?

It powers the Absolute capitalist Hierarchial food powered make work enterprise...

The city state...Or Civilization...

Money is a food substitute...food is power.

The medium of exchange is power.

Allow me to take more of another's power than I give to them and I care not who makes or breaks the rules of the game you are all playing.

Eventually the power will be sucked from the hands of the many into the hands of the few or one.

Then they who have the power will make or break the rules of the game you all are playing.

Human beings have no power to make or break LAW.

All that Human beings have the power to do is make and break rules and call the rules LAW.

But if the rules attempt to break LAW...LAW will break the rules.

Human beings have no power to create or destroy Truth.

All that Human beings have the power to do is create and destroy lies and call the lies Truth.

But if the lies attempt to destroy Truth...Truth will destroy the lies.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state or what you all call civilization is ultimately a war machines that id fighting Truth.

It's a lie and lies require ever grater power to sustain their continued existence.

The top or employer sucks power from the bottom to sustain the lie...It's what the top hires the bottom to do...fight Truth.

Eventually the lie fighting Truth requires infinite and indestructible power to sustain it's continued existence fighting Truth...but the only source of infinite and indestructible power is Truth...So when the lie requires Truth to sustain it's continued existence...that is revelation and the lie fighting Truth that is masquerading as Truth loses power and self destructs.

That is why the economy is collapsing.

It can no longer take more than it gives because the bottom or employees of the enterprise have reached their maximum potential to sustain the war against Truth.

The collapse is the lie which is the enterprise self destructing because the employees can not supply the top or employers with the required amount of power to sustain the continued existence of the enterprise which is the lie fighting Truth.

The top know this...you all are oblivious of it.

due to the just think positive ignore the negative religion.

The embrace fantasy reject reality equation.

The embrace lies and delusion reject Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm.

A delusion is a lie you tell yourself...over time you fall in love with it and cherish it...You all will fight to the death to protect that which you cherish.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state is a mass delusion you all have fallen deeply in love with.

Due to the The embrace/love lies and delusion reject/fear Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm.

You all are continually in search of something you don't want to find.

you all are constantly seeking salvation from Truth.

For 1000's of years now.

Taking more than you give is plunder...

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat

Glorifies and cherishes it.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

The devout followers of the Just think positive ignore the negative religion keep telling me...

If you put your mind to it there is nothing that is impossible.

If at first you don't succeed try try again.

You all have been try try trying again to defeat Truth with lies for 1000's and 1000's of years now.

You all are running in terror from that which you are inevitably going to smash into.

The logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation is the reaching of the maximum potential of taking more than you give or collapse.

If you try to avoid reaching the logical conclusion by stopping the taking of more than you give...you collapse and if you continue to take more than you give until you can't any more...you collapse.

The only way to avoid the logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation is to choose to not take more than you give.

But since it's all you know how to do...and it is the path of least resistance....the top have very little trouble helping you all make the decision when it's time.

When the enterprise implodes you all will hack your selves to pieces trying to reacquire what you never had to begin with or acquire what you never will.

Salvation from Truth.

The top will of course hire the survivors to construct and power the next lie to it's logical conclusion.
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That is nature law somehow
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Funny...the only thing I have to do to get a thread moving with long boring nonsense responses is to mention the word:

THRONE.

I'm Deakin and I have the only Throne. Pay up bitch!

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