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You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



wrong. You need to go to a bible thread...


Your comments only show how little you know and how badly you've been BRAINWASHED.

Don't you KNOW that RELIGIOUS RITUAL is PART AND PARCEL of what the Ruling Class have done all throughout HISTORY?

WHY IS IT that EVERY head of state that is part of the NWO is ALSO A KNIGHT OF MALTA, AND PLEDGED TO THE VATICAN?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012473


I'm not trying to push christianity I'm trying the opposite really. Just hoping that there might be others out there that want peace and see that it is possible. Also proposing a method by which peace can work. It matters not what group one claims to be in, every individual knows about peace and whether or not they are peaceful.

Edit: opposite may not be the best choice of words. Christianity should be about peace and free will, it's in the book. Many Christians do not seem to follow the ideas though.

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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?
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they believe that their genetics have been corrupted - watered down - by breeding with the goyim -

Why if they are so superior to the goyim are they in general so much less attractive. Big noses, pointy teeth, tongues always darting out of their mouths, short and without much athletic ability?
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Stereotyping jews is terrible!

There you go again. The old anti Semitic. I am asking a serious question. The illunminati look to be less than superior and when this is pointed out they get all bent out of shape.
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Adam Weishaupt officially stated that Jesus is the Head of the Illuminati Order,

so there !
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So its all the devils fault?
Yes its all the devils fault
So where do i find the devil so i can kill him?
Ok first you have to invade the whole world to look for him
Then what do i do now,i rule the whole world?
Ok then you have found the devil
But how can i be sure i have found him?
You just made him, you are the devil now
Damm i really wish i diden't chased that guy to start with
But who are you then if im the devil now?
I am the one that is free from the devil.
You're it!!

tounge
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?



Adam Weishaupt officially stated that Jesus is the Head of the Illuminati Order,

so there !
 Quoting: THRONE OF THE GOLDEN SUN



Is Reza Pahlavi Jesus?
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That's all cool for you to believe. But answer me this...why did they hack my computer and offer a Treaty and Leader Exchange back in November 2005?

I had to destroy a perfectly good computer because of them and I want my $2000.

But you believe what you want...with all these nuclear capable submarines swimming around me I just can't accept your poorly informed opinions.

Lake Forest, Illinois is a small town and when all this activity is going on one has to admit something big is about to go down.


If you want to convince me that some crazy power hungry faggots haven't been screwing with Bruce Deakin, then I am all ears as to how you know this.

They? How do you know who it was? chuckle How do you know whoever it was, was serious and not just fuck'n with you? chuckle

I met a fool, that been sitting at the Western Wall (Israel) for a long time now, basically homeless there since he's not from there, who has a similar story to yours.

He clearly has the same identity issues you have and ego problems to work out before anyone would be interested in you. naughty

Until you get Right with God, ain't Nobody interested in you, my friend! hugs

Ribbit hunter
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Tell me Ribbit, woo hoo ! When I became right with G-d and my eyes opened , and I felt the love and the Awe of all creation and my hate and duality fled, It was then all the spies came out of the woodwork to check me out, Doesnt some spiritual initiations set off radar equipment? LOL ! but youre right, you tell them this Toad.

until you AWAKEN, the right way, they aint interested in you !

LOL
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You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



wrong. You need to go to a bible thread...


Your comments only show how little you know and how badly you've been BRAINWASHED.

Don't you KNOW that RELIGIOUS RITUAL is PART AND PARCEL of what the Ruling Class have done all throughout HISTORY?

WHY IS IT that EVERY head of state that is part of the NWO is ALSO A KNIGHT OF MALTA, AND PLEDGED TO THE VATICAN?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012473



How little I know? LOL. That you take anything from the bible is laughable.

It shows you how little YOU know.
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?
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I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.
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So its all the devils fault?
Yes its all the devils fault
So where do i find the devil so i can kill him?
Ok first you have to invade the whole world to look for him
Then what do i do now,i rule the whole world?
Ok then you have found the devil
But how can i be sure i have found him?
You just made him, you are the devil now
Damm i really wish i diden't chased that guy to start with
But who are you then if im the devil now?
I am the one that is free from the devil.
You're it!!

tounge
 Quoting: skirmisher



You know, this might just happen to me, LOL. ever see DORIAN GREY? he was his own demon/devil.

I guess if I sit on a throne Ill find out if my Inner Michael can slay my Inner dragon.

Kingdom is within us !
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?


I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.
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Thumbs up on the comment to our focusing on our individual life .
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Is Reza Pahlavi the Lord God Jesus Christ to the illuminati...or is that someone else?

How does Jesus' mom fit into this whole thing?

Are you sure Jesus is who you think he is or is he someone else? I was thinking that Jesus' dad peeled potatoes for a living and his mom drinks to much and stared in an adult film.

Is that who the illuminati are...the offspring of these people? If so, how do they estimate that anything they are is worthy of respect?
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The top does not kill themselves...the bottom does.

The top then hires the survivors.

The skeletal remains of the previous iterations litter the surface of the planet.

You have to be devout to ignore 1000's of years of direct evidence.

The Universe is perfectly fair...everyone and everything gets what they and it deserve and there is no hope.

Ultimately ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil in teh affairs of humanity.

Your awareness of the Universe does not exist withing the Universe...your physical body is just an anchor for your perspective.

Since your awareness does not exist within the universe...its is not constrained.

It's why what you plan most times does not turn out like you imagined.

Because you do not account for the Universe as it is...you account for the Universe like you think it is or desire it to be.

I'm sorry to say but Truth does not depend upon human beings for existence.

There is no way to obtain salvation from Truth.

There is no way to not see what a bunch of selfish inconsiderate monsters we all are except by rejecting Truth.

There is no way to candy coat Truth.

You can lie to yourselves and others all you like.

Lies only provide a temporary prosperity.

Billions below you in the hierarchy support your position.

Millions die every year slaving to supply the power to sustain the servers these wastes of life are hosted on that liars use to promote their cherished delusions of light.

You don't come here seeking Truth...You come here seeking support for or to promote your cherished delusions.
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I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.
 Quoting: Adam.Ryder



But doesn't someone have to die or at least spend the rest of their lives in Prison for what is happening on this planet?

What the fuck..you basically are saying that I should elevate and evolve or some crazy thing so that I will lose any notion of justice or law enforcement for the victims of their crimes.

If the illuminati have interfered in at least 1 life...should the whole group be destroyed?

I hate the illuminati...so its cool for me punish them mercilessly until the stars burn from the sky, correct?

Do the illuminati actually believe that their beliefs are something I should give a shit about? Why is this?

What if my pleasure of life comes from punishing the wicked? What if I experience God in this manner?

Is it then okay to be an unapologetic killer?
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Why do the illuminati believe that the meaning of life is abstract and subjective and given to endless debate?
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The top does not kill themselves...the bottom does.

The top then hires the survivors.

The skeletal remains of the previous iterations litter the surface of the planet.

You have to be devout to ignore 1000's of years of direct evidence.

The Universe is perfectly fair...everyone and everything gets what they and it deserve and there is no hope.

Ultimately ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil in teh affairs of humanity.

Your awareness of the Universe does not exist withing the Universe...your physical body is just an anchor for your perspective.

Since your awareness does not exist within the universe...its is not constrained.

It's why what you plan most times does not turn out like you imagined.

Because you do not account for the Universe as it is...you account for the Universe like you think it is or desire it to be.

I'm sorry to say but Truth does not depend upon human beings for existence.

There is no way to obtain salvation from Truth.

There is no way to not see what a bunch of selfish inconsiderate monsters we all are except by rejecting Truth.

There is no way to candy coat Truth.

You can lie to yourselves and others all you like.

Lies only provide a temporary prosperity.

Billions below you in the hierarchy support your position.

Millions die every year slaving to supply the power to sustain the servers these wastes of life are hosted on that liars use to promote their cherished delusions of light.

You don't come here seeking Truth...You come here seeking support for or to promote your cherished delusions.
 Quoting: Hypertiger 987710


I'm not trying to push anything upon anyone. If you do not like what I have to say you're certainly welcome to pass up this thread. Negative and positive comments are both welcome here, debate is a means by which both parties can strengthen their knowledge. I'm not calling your comments negative by the way. I have actually been browsing GLP for several years without uttering one word because I sought truth. It is only now that I speak up because I believe I have found it. At the very least it can remain the truth as I see it. I post it here thinking that others might like to hear it. It may be true that some like what is written here even if not all do. I'm not here to waste peoples time or anger anyone at that. In fact I was hoping some people might find my words a way to get away from the ideas of anger, though I find anger in moderation and directed appropriately can be a welcome release. Long as you're not hurting any other person naturally.
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I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.



But doesn't someone have to die or at least spend the rest of their lives in Prison for what is happening on this planet?

What the fuck..you basically are saying that I should elevate and evolve or some crazy thing so that I will lose any notion of justice or law enforcement for the victims of their crimes.

If the illuminati have interfered in at least 1 life...should the whole group be destroyed?

I hate the illuminati...so its cool for me punish them mercilessly until the stars burn from the sky, correct?

Do the illuminati actually believe that their beliefs are something I should give a shit about? Why is this?

What if my pleasure of life comes from punishing the wicked? What if I experience God in this manner?

Is it then okay to be an unapologetic killer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009642


The life we live today and for all days prior have been a prison for all of us including any who claim power or control. This is the punishment we have all suffered already why need there be any more. I've stated before I believe that those at the top of the pyramid are just as much slaves as their slaves. They are slaves to their rituals and to their constant need to enforce their secrecy and laws. Further more if we declare peace or truce perhaps those at the top of the pyramid will not be so unwilling to come down due to the fear of retribution.

I for one would much rather live free without having enforced retribution than live the rest of my life in bondage because those in power were too afraid to relinquish it because I said if they did I'd bring them harm.
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I'll add a bit more. First off, guess who owns all the publication firms, upper class...TV stations, upper class, internet service providers, upper class...Take a look at your government:
Nancy Pelosi - upper class
Al Gore - upper class
Barak Obama - upper class
G Dubya - upper class
G Dub senior - upper class

What about your celebrities:
Mel Gibson - upper class
Jonny Depp - upper class
George Lucas - upper class
the list goes on obviously

Here's a good one for ya. Doesn't this all sound a bit like perhaps the ANTI-CHRIST!!! It's really quite obvious, anti meaning antithesis meaning opposite, the old AC is the opposite of Christ. Take a look

Christ was poor, upper class is rich
Christ was humble, upper class boastful and greedy
Christ was loving, upper class spreads hate and fear
Christ was peaceful, upper class spreads war and words of war

Come on people am I getting through to anyone yet!?!?!?

Even more, if there is an Anti-Christ what does that mean...You guessed it THERE IS A GOD too, good thing he gave us a description of AC for me to post here. Even better I know exactly who this God fella is...I'll post that a bit later though, don't wanna blow your minds to terribly much just yet, lets just let this current information seep in a bit and then we'll get to the really good stuff.

-Adam
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So true. What Christ is about the ruling class is the opposite.
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The top does not kill themselves...the bottom does.

The top then hires the survivors.

The skeletal remains of the previous iterations litter the surface of the planet.

You have to be devout to ignore 1000's of years of direct evidence.

The Universe is perfectly fair...everyone and everything gets what they and it deserve and there is no hope.

Ultimately ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil in teh affairs of humanity.

Your awareness of the Universe does not exist withing the Universe...your physical body is just an anchor for your perspective.

Since your awareness does not exist within the universe...its is not constrained.

It's why what you plan most times does not turn out like you imagined.

Because you do not account for the Universe as it is...you account for the Universe like you think it is or desire it to be.

I'm sorry to say but Truth does not depend upon human beings for existence.

There is no way to obtain salvation from Truth.

There is no way to not see what a bunch of selfish inconsiderate monsters we all are except by rejecting Truth.

There is no way to candy coat Truth.

You can lie to yourselves and others all you like.

Lies only provide a temporary prosperity.

Billions below you in the hierarchy support your position.

Millions die every year slaving to supply the power to sustain the servers these wastes of life are hosted on that liars use to promote their cherished delusions of light.

You don't come here seeking Truth...You come here seeking support for or to promote your cherished delusions.
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Never heard it put better
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?


I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.



But doesn't someone have to die or at least spend the rest of their lives in Prison for what is happening on this planet?

What the fuck..you basically are saying that I should elevate and evolve or some crazy thing so that I will lose any notion of justice or law enforcement for the victims of their crimes.

If the illuminati have interfered in at least 1 life...should the whole group be destroyed?

I hate the illuminati...so its cool for me punish them mercilessly until the stars burn from the sky, correct?

Do the illuminati actually believe that their beliefs are something I should give a shit about? Why is this?

What if my pleasure of life comes from punishing the wicked? What if I experience God in this manner?

Is it then okay to be an unapologetic killer?


The life we live today and for all days prior have been a prison for all of us including any who claim power or control. This is the punishment we have all suffered already why need there be any more. I've stated before I believe that those at the top of the pyramid are just as much slaves as their slaves. They are slaves to their rituals and to their constant need to enforce their secrecy and laws. Further more if we declare peace or truce perhaps those at the top of the pyramid will not be so unwilling to come down due to the fear of retribution.

I for one would much rather live free without having enforced retribution than live the rest of my life in bondage because those in power were too afraid to relinquish it because I said if they did I'd bring them harm.
 Quoting: Adam.Ryder



So...the illuminati won't surrender until they receive assurances from the REAL law enforcers that they won't be treated in a manner similiar to how they treated their victims?

Fuck that...I prefer War.
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Why do the illuminati believe that the meaning of life is abstract and subjective and given to endless debate?
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I certainly couldn't say why the illuminati believe such things. And even if they are despised on this forum I'm not afraid to admit that I agree, though it could be for different reasons.

I believe every individual is completely different than any other individual, though some may seem similar. So each individual living their own life under their own ideas would be quite different than anyone else's idea of how to govern their own lives. Abstract I feel expresses a sense of differentiation, sort of an 'out of the box' type style it's different from how we might perceive reality and each persons life or reality is different from the next. Subjective more obviously showing that again each life is subject to it's own individual government or style. Endless debate because the whole of life and everything in it, everything experienced is in fact a learning experience. Every moment a brand new piece of knowledge to add to ones ever growing library. With debate different individuals can come to a greater understanding of the knowledge they have. The active exchange of knowledge from one individual to the next increases the growth rate of each individuals knowledge. One can learn the knowledge of two lifetimes in just one if they discuss often with another. One can learn many lifetimes worth of knowledge if they discuss with many. Also as each person is different two or more individuals can come to a greater understanding of a single piece of knowledge because they are likely to have two or more different perspectives on it.
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?


I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.



But doesn't someone have to die or at least spend the rest of their lives in Prison for what is happening on this planet?

What the fuck..you basically are saying that I should elevate and evolve or some crazy thing so that I will lose any notion of justice or law enforcement for the victims of their crimes.

If the illuminati have interfered in at least 1 life...should the whole group be destroyed?

I hate the illuminati...so its cool for me punish them mercilessly until the stars burn from the sky, correct?

Do the illuminati actually believe that their beliefs are something I should give a shit about? Why is this?

What if my pleasure of life comes from punishing the wicked? What if I experience God in this manner?

Is it then okay to be an unapologetic killer?


The life we live today and for all days prior have been a prison for all of us including any who claim power or control. This is the punishment we have all suffered already why need there be any more. I've stated before I believe that those at the top of the pyramid are just as much slaves as their slaves. They are slaves to their rituals and to their constant need to enforce their secrecy and laws. Further more if we declare peace or truce perhaps those at the top of the pyramid will not be so unwilling to come down due to the fear of retribution.

I for one would much rather live free without having enforced retribution than live the rest of my life in bondage because those in power were too afraid to relinquish it because I said if they did I'd bring them harm.



So...the illuminati won't surrender until they receive assurances from the REAL law enforcers that they won't be treated in a manner similiar to how they treated their victims?

Fuck that...I prefer War.
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Like I said if you take the route of war you only become the same the enemy you seek to defeat. They have not truly deceived us as we deceived ourselves. The lower classes put the upper classes into power and begged to be enslaved. If anyone from the lower class were given the opportunity to be an upper class member they'd have taken it and committed the very same wrongs. Even still a lower class member commits the very same evils if only on a smaller scale. Do we not see the violence in many areas, people hate and murder each other. It is not merely because the upper classes provoked it, indeed they may have directed it, but if they hadn't it still would happen only differently. People do not wish to see any shortcomings in their own lives, fault is always blamed upon someone else and that sentiment would be there with or without the current upper class. The upper class is again the result of a way of life, a way of lies. They're simply better liars, but many lie.
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That's all cool for you to believe. But answer me this...why did they hack my computer and offer a Treaty and Leader Exchange back in November 2005?

I had to destroy a perfectly good computer because of them and I want my $2000.

But you believe what you want...with all these nuclear capable submarines swimming around me I just can't accept your poorly informed opinions.

Lake Forest, Illinois is a small town and when all this activity is going on one has to admit something big is about to go down.


If you want to convince me that some crazy power hungry faggots haven't been screwing with Bruce Deakin, then I am all ears as to how you know this.

They? How do you know who it was? chuckle How do you know whoever it was, was serious and not just fuck'n with you? chuckle

I met a fool, that been sitting at the Western Wall (Israel) for a long time now, basically homeless there since he's not from there, who has a similar story to yours.

He clearly has the same identity issues you have and ego problems to work out before anyone would be interested in you. naughty

Until you get Right with God, ain't Nobody interested in you, my friend! hugs

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uuummm lol how ironic!
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Why do the illuminati believe that the meaning of life is abstract and subjective and given to endless debate?


I certainly couldn't say why the illuminati believe such things. And even if they are despised on this forum I'm not afraid to admit that I agree, though it could be for different reasons.

I believe every individual is completely different than any other individual, though some may seem similar. So each individual living their own life under their own ideas would be quite different than anyone else's idea of how to govern their own lives. Abstract I feel expresses a sense of differentiation, sort of an 'out of the box' type style it's different from how we might perceive reality and each persons life or reality is different from the next. Subjective more obviously showing that again each life is subject to it's own individual government or style. Endless debate because the whole of life and everything in it, everything experienced is in fact a learning experience. Every moment a brand new piece of knowledge to add to ones ever growing library. With debate different individuals can come to a greater understanding of the knowledge they have. The active exchange of knowledge from one individual to the next increases the growth rate of each individuals knowledge. One can learn the knowledge of two lifetimes in just one if they discuss often with another. One can learn many lifetimes worth of knowledge if they discuss with many. Also as each person is different two or more individuals can come to a greater understanding of a single piece of knowledge because they are likely to have two or more different perspectives on it.
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While I agree with most of this...this illuminati seems to be unwilling to learn all of its own lessons and has plunged the world into war for no other reason than to avoid the logical conclusion of their own existence, which happens to be their destruction.

If these people are responsible for all the empires you mentioned, then they are solely responsible for the whole of human suffering for the past 6000 years.

Why do the illuminati fear learning the very lessons they try to teach? Do they believe that they are exempt?

Why?
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Absolute capitalists choose to employ absolute self indulgent reason to solve the problem of existence.

Responsible capitalists employ responsible altruistic logic.

Absolute capitalists choose to search for reasons to make mistakes and then search for reasons to limit or escape responsibility for the consequences of the choice.

To be blunt...they claim to be irresponsible.

They cause trouble and try to avoid the consequences.

They lie and then when the lies self destruct they create more new lies to replace the old self destructing lies.

Once you know Truth.

It becomes impossible to believe all the lies you all create and are trying to manipulate others to believe are Truth.

At that point a secret becomes what you think I'm unaware of.

All life and everything in the universe capitalizes on Truth to sustain the continued existence of all and everything.

Truth does not depend upon lies to power the continued existence of Truth.

since truth is the source of all power.

lies depend upon truth to sustain the continues existecne of Lies.

Remove lies and all you have is Truth but try and remove Truth and it's impossible because Truth is infinite and indestructible.

Responsible capitalists or those who choose to employ responsible altruistic logic.

Don't search for reasons to make mistakes and then for reasons to limit or escape responsibility for the consequences.

They choose to not play the game you all are playing with each other for fun and profit.

Sharing power as equally as possible is the opposite of taking more power than you give.

But split 100 into 3 and you get 33.333333 forever.

It is much easier to chop 100 into 34,33,33...

Taking more than you give is the path of least resistance while sharing as equally as possible is the path of most resistance.

bacteria and lighting bolts follow the path of least resistance by default because lighting bolts and bacteria are ignorant of Truth.

Human being have to chose to be ignorant of Truth.

While the paht of least resistance is the easiest path to follow...It is a choice...Its is not by default.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of evil in the affairs of humanity.

The devout followers of the just think positive ignore the negative religion.

or the followers of the embrace lies and delusion reject Truth religion.

Chose to be ignorant of Truth.

Bacteria and lightning bolts are ignorant of Truth by default because they are mindless.
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Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?


I really don't know. I didn't mean that I would be naming names but that I would out their origins and how they can be defeated. In actuality if the illuminati are to be considered slave masters than all humans are illuminati because we all seek control over others in one way or another, as previously stated. To love someone is to allow them freedom, or rather to not attempt to take it away. It matters not if Reza Pahlavi is the head of some organization. You and your individual life matters. How you govern your individual life matters.



But doesn't someone have to die or at least spend the rest of their lives in Prison for what is happening on this planet?

What the fuck..you basically are saying that I should elevate and evolve or some crazy thing so that I will lose any notion of justice or law enforcement for the victims of their crimes.

If the illuminati have interfered in at least 1 life...should the whole group be destroyed?

I hate the illuminati...so its cool for me punish them mercilessly until the stars burn from the sky, correct?

Do the illuminati actually believe that their beliefs are something I should give a shit about? Why is this?

What if my pleasure of life comes from punishing the wicked? What if I experience God in this manner?

Is it then okay to be an unapologetic killer?


The life we live today and for all days prior have been a prison for all of us including any who claim power or control. This is the punishment we have all suffered already why need there be any more. I've stated before I believe that those at the top of the pyramid are just as much slaves as their slaves. They are slaves to their rituals and to their constant need to enforce their secrecy and laws. Further more if we declare peace or truce perhaps those at the top of the pyramid will not be so unwilling to come down due to the fear of retribution.

I for one would much rather live free without having enforced retribution than live the rest of my life in bondage because those in power were too afraid to relinquish it because I said if they did I'd bring them harm.



So...the illuminati won't surrender until they receive assurances from the REAL law enforcers that they won't be treated in a manner similiar to how they treated their victims?

Fuck that...I prefer War.


Like I said if you take the route of war you only become the same the enemy you seek to defeat. They have not truly deceived us as we deceived ourselves. The lower classes put the upper classes into power and begged to be enslaved. If anyone from the lower class were given the opportunity to be an upper class member they'd have taken it and committed the very same wrongs. Even still a lower class member commits the very same evils if only on a smaller scale. Do we not see the violence in many areas, people hate and murder each other. It is not merely because the upper classes provoked it, indeed they may have directed it, but if they hadn't it still would happen only differently. People do not wish to see any shortcomings in their own lives, fault is always blamed upon someone else and that sentiment would be there with or without the current upper class. The upper class is again the result of a way of life, a way of lies. They're simply better liars, but many lie.
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I suppose you think you know what I mean when I say War. What if what you call and demonstrate as War is different from what I call and will demonstrate as War? Guess what..it is.

Illuminati enjoy debating abstract concepts, do they not? Let's debate what is war and how wars are fought.

Don't even worry...when the illuminati are destroyed...it will be by their own hand and actions and none else.
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Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?
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you are watching endgame now. tptb, nwo, lackies of alien overlords. they've been around from the beginning. you know exactly what is going on. the decent aliens are up there, have been waiting for a nick of time rescue for humans able to evolve at this time..before the reptoids set off their bombs. they are redoing the planet. so they think, they get busted here directly. you'll see.
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Why do the illuminati believe that the meaning of life is abstract and subjective and given to endless debate?


I certainly couldn't say why the illuminati believe such things. And even if they are despised on this forum I'm not afraid to admit that I agree, though it could be for different reasons.

I believe every individual is completely different than any other individual, though some may seem similar. So each individual living their own life under their own ideas would be quite different than anyone else's idea of how to govern their own lives. Abstract I feel expresses a sense of differentiation, sort of an 'out of the box' type style it's different from how we might perceive reality and each persons life or reality is different from the next. Subjective more obviously showing that again each life is subject to it's own individual government or style. Endless debate because the whole of life and everything in it, everything experienced is in fact a learning experience. Every moment a brand new piece of knowledge to add to ones ever growing library. With debate different individuals can come to a greater understanding of the knowledge they have. The active exchange of knowledge from one individual to the next increases the growth rate of each individuals knowledge. One can learn the knowledge of two lifetimes in just one if they discuss often with another. One can learn many lifetimes worth of knowledge if they discuss with many. Also as each person is different two or more individuals can come to a greater understanding of a single piece of knowledge because they are likely to have two or more different perspectives on it.


While I agree with most of this...this illuminati seems to be unwilling to learn all of its own lessons and has plunged the world into war for no other reason than to avoid the logical conclusion of their own existence, which happens to be their destruction.

If these people are responsible for all the empires you mentioned, then they are solely responsible for the whole of human suffering for the past 6000 years.

Why do the illuminati fear learning the very lessons they try to teach? Do they believe that they are exempt?

Why?
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They were going to leave, but that got canceled....hehe
now, they know about reaping what you sew......thats part of the offer I take it....but who knows?
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Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
-Adam

to be brief adam,

einstein, ie. spinoza, states that you and i and god are defined as nothing more than 're assemblages' of infinite pre-existing elements'.

that being stated, it is then to be concluded that your argument against, and my argument for; creation, are essentially meaningless and therefore, moot.

the flaw being obvious, all is relative and no argument is therefore absolute.

voila!
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Why do the illuminati believe that the meaning of life is abstract and subjective and given to endless debate?


I certainly couldn't say why the illuminati believe such things. And even if they are despised on this forum I'm not afraid to admit that I agree, though it could be for different reasons.

I believe every individual is completely different than any other individual, though some may seem similar. So each individual living their own life under their own ideas would be quite different than anyone else's idea of how to govern their own lives. Abstract I feel expresses a sense of differentiation, sort of an 'out of the box' type style it's different from how we might perceive reality and each persons life or reality is different from the next. Subjective more obviously showing that again each life is subject to it's own individual government or style. Endless debate because the whole of life and everything in it, everything experienced is in fact a learning experience. Every moment a brand new piece of knowledge to add to ones ever growing library. With debate different individuals can come to a greater understanding of the knowledge they have. The active exchange of knowledge from one individual to the next increases the growth rate of each individuals knowledge. One can learn the knowledge of two lifetimes in just one if they discuss often with another. One can learn many lifetimes worth of knowledge if they discuss with many. Also as each person is different two or more individuals can come to a greater understanding of a single piece of knowledge because they are likely to have two or more different perspectives on it.


While I agree with most of this...this illuminati seems to be unwilling to learn all of its own lessons and has plunged the world into war for no other reason than to avoid the logical conclusion of their own existence, which happens to be their destruction.

If these people are responsible for all the empires you mentioned, then they are solely responsible for the whole of human suffering for the past 6000 years.

Why do the illuminati fear learning the very lessons they try to teach? Do they believe that they are exempt?

Why?
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Perhaps my original post was a bit misleading. The ruling classes as they exist today merely inherited their wealth, knowledge and power from their ancestors, they are no more guilty of enslaving sumerians than the british armies of today guilty of destroying frances army at the battle of waterloo. Whatever evils they commit are done so in their current lives. I must admit that I am under the impression that if the people who ruled those ancient societies did not do so than someone else would have. Those styles of rule are like a natural part of growing up, like the terrible twos for a human baby.

As to your first statement I believe any creature of any kind that had the capability to avoid it's own destruction did so try. I also feel that this ruling class most likely fears the masses. Even if they wanted to tell everyone the truth and give up their power they couldn't for they would be mercilessly slaughtered. The current ruling class was born into it like many before, they did not ask to be born to these parents.

I believe in forgiveness. As I have stated before we and they have been receiving our punishments for what we have done on a daily basis since the beginning. They are slaves, and experience fear. You want to believe they are laughing at you, perhaps they are not, perhaps they are well aware that this is just the way things ended up and neither we nor they asked for it.

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